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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Nudga on June 20, 2025, 10:51:26 pm
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Anybody else loving the shit show going down at Swillsbro?
I hate that club with a passion so I hope they rot for eternal life in division 4.
Reason you may ask, well I worked in Sheffield during our conference years and the blades lads at work always kept an eye out for our results and were quite knowledgeable about lower league football.
The Wednesday lads on the other hand only took the piss, knew f**k all about football in general and gloated about their attendances, win,lose or draw.
Weird fan base with a strange chip on the shoulder.
Absolutely loving seeing them cry on social media.
f**kers think they've got it bad, they really haven't got a clue.
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Here here. Deserve everything so far and everything yet to come. I equally remember our plight and how most of South Yorkshire couldn"t care less. I remember United gave us a kit for our first game at Dover, although trying to be impartial, it did have transform medical as a sponsor so that might of been some John Ryan spin no doubt :lol:
Will always remember the knuckle draggers from wednesday causing shit outside the keepmoat after we beat them one Tuesday night. Walked right up to us giving us agro. We didnt rise to their taunts, but it was nailed on they wanted us to react to them to cause trouble.
Given what we went through back then, I wouldn't wish that on any other club.To almost see your club no longer exist.
I have supported many a club in a similar plight where I can with donations, however back in 98, most of our South Yorkshire neighbours couldn't care less. But Wednesday, a club full of knob heads, the worst of the lot. I wouldn't p1ss on any of them if they were on fire.
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For some reason Sheffield United have been great with Rotherham as well loaning them players for Free I seem to remember when they were having a bad time of it and helped Chesterfield out a few years back, as well as playing games v ourselves, a good club United with what seems like a more local support, where Weeds and the Wendies gathered support from a wider area.
The Wendies and Weeds however have never been that generous as clubs, not the players, who have turned out for charities etc regular, but both have tried to gather supporters from all over other clubs historic patches when they have had success and seem quite happy to do so.
In the Wendies case it is going to take a monumental effort to ever be what they once were as a club.
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They’ve also got that crumbling wreck of a stadium to deal with at some point. Don’t like most of them at all, but also know some genuinely good lads that are Wednesday fans and I wouldn’t wish liquidation on any genuine football fan. No doubt they will get saved by some for of foreign ownership, but at what cost who knows.
Just goes to show what a dark mess football is in really. Look at the club World Cup. Corruption of the highest order, but owners are so desperate for a slice of the Saudi government money they would sell their own souls and quite happily will flog their players to exhaustion.
Be interesting to see the impact this joke will have on the quality of matches in the World Cup next year.
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Also, not a big fan really of mocking other clubs predicaments. It’s only 18 months ago we were looking over our shoulders at the bottom 2 and potentially the national league. Many people on this forum losing their shit over how the club was being run. We might have it good now, but terry bramall is 83 this year - he won’t be here forever and then what? Probably not best to mock other clubs when our own future could change very quickly.
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I will mock them, never met a humble Wednesday fan yet so I really dont feel sorry for them.
Not said anything about them going bust or going non league. To be fair, they are too big for either of those scenarios but, I did say I'd like to see them in division 4.
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Agree they seem to have more than their share of idiots. Never known a more bipolar fan base (as in they win a game and are the best team ever, yet lose and they want everyone sacking)
Them and their fruitcake owner is a gift that keeps on giving
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Oh and let's not forget their fans going on the rampage in town for a friendly many years ago, slapping an old fella to the ground outside a pub.
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If the Denver broncos owners end up buying them then they could be a serious team again
Lad a work is a swfc fan and he’s a decent bloke one of the few I guess, he says they need to move out of hillsbro, and try and get down Meadowhall area
Feel bad for him as he is a genuine fan but even he says they have plenty of d**khead fans that get drugged up and end up fighting with their own fans
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Minimal interest. Donny Owls always seem far less knuckle dragging than Donny Whites.
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Yes, I get it. Wednesday aren’t the most popular team in the area.
The club is in a dire state and has been for some time and, if truth be told, I can’t see when it’s going to end.
The problems are well documented so I won’t go over them here, but things really are in a bad way.
Will we go under? Not a chance. Will we eventually be purchased by another unsuitable owner? Very likely.
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Stockbridge would you welcome Milan back if it meant getting rid of chansri
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Another bad owner ruining a historic club.
I've never liked Wednesday, loved going there and beating them, but I'll always remember the journey home from Brentford when we won the league. Our train stopped at Peterborough and loads of Wednesday fans got on, saw all the Rovers fans and started singing "Championes" at us.
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Stockbridge would you welcome Milan back if it meant getting rid of chansri
Many Wednesday supporters are of the opinion that anyone will be better than Chansri but I worry about leaping from the frying pan into the fire as it were. Right now Milan does seem a preferable choice but I think it’s more to do with how awful the current owner has been rather than positivity about Milan.
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I think chansiri is doing a good job :lol:
f**k em.
Weird fan base, all with chips on their shoulders.
Like vegans who tell you there a vegan twice in 30 seconds after meeting them.
Sheff weds fans tell you their a big club twice in 30 seconds.
When in reality they are a medium sized club , of which there are dozens.
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Growing up in the Dearne Valley in the 70's, Wednesday had very recently been the best team in Yorkshire until being overtaken by the then new upstart Leeds United. Consequently, there were many Wednesday fans of my age and slightly older. Since they were in the third tier by the early 70s, the vast majority of those fans didn't appear to me to be big heads although I'll agree they all saw Wednesday as a big club - and rightly so at the time.
From the late 70's I went with friends to watch both Wednesday and Leeds and enjoyed going to their respective bigger stadiums with larger crowds and more noise. As a young teenager, there seemed little difference between the two clubs except their divisional divide at the time. I went with Wednesday to their FA Cup semi-final at Highbury when they played Brighton (about 1983?) and the good days were back for another 10 years or so.
Now, with very little to crow about since the 90s and the stellar rise of the big premier league teams, I think it is fair to say their "big club" crown has long since fallen. Potentially though, they would not look out of place in the Premier League. Whether they could get there and maintain that place in the modern day is an entirely different question. I still have a soft spot for them though and don't like seeing their current financial predicament.
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Every club has its d**kheads, but Wednesday are one of those clubs that seems to have an above average proportion of d**kheads. In the last couple of years stuff like the Bradley Lowery incident means that reputation is starting to stick.
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People in glass houses etc..
We have fans who chuck flares on the pitch, smear shit on toilet walls and gozz on ball boys.
Every club has a share oh knobs..
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All examples from a fair few years ago.
Apart from a bit of posturing from the young lads I’ve not seen anything that we should worry about regarding our fan base.
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All those incidents happened Inside a ground at a match,doesn't make it any less appalling,but Sheff Wendies do have a much larger proportion of Arrogant,Ill mannered,self important,bigger than you supporters in everyday life wherever you meet them,Yes they have a few smart,intelligent fans too, but they are vastly outnumbered by the arrogants etc.
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All examples from a fair few years ago.
Apart from a bit of posturing from the young lads I’ve not seen anything that we should worry about regarding our fan base.
Flares got chucked on the pitch in the Bradford game.
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All examples from a fair few years ago.
Apart from a bit of posturing from the young lads I’ve not seen anything that we should worry about regarding our fan base.
And all the examples quoted of Wednesday supporters misbehaving are from even longer ago....
BobG
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Every club has its d**kheads, but Wednesday are one of those clubs that seems to have an above average proportion of d**kheads. In the last couple of years stuff like the Bradley Lowery incident means that reputation is starting to stick.
Wasn’t there that guy called crisp a couple of years back who mocked a fan who had passed at the leppings lane end, saying something like another one to the list?? There was also another a couple of morons in a separate incident ,as well as those scum mocking Bradley.
Generally speaking a very weird and twisted fan base, although we welcome Stockbridge Owl on here.
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It beat me why anyone would take pleasure from another team in this situation. (Excluding leeds) I remember when we very nearly went bust. Not a nice time at all.
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It beat me why anyone would take pleasure from another team in this situation. (Excluding leeds) I remember when we very nearly went bust. Not a nice time at all.
Keith so do I and the response I got from a lot of Wendies was shocking
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You have to wonder what more Chansiri needs to do, to prove his is an unfit and improper owner.
The EFL forced Readings owner to sell when he was guilty of improper behaviour so with Chansiri's repeat offences of failing to pay players and staff, you'd think the rule book would bring him to account beyond yet another transfer embargo.
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Has there been a lower point in recent years than the apology we had to give to Leyton Orient?
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What was that CBCB? Not heard of us apologising to Orient before.
BobG
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" We are a massive club" is what they start out with when they whinge on. They are no more a big club than Barnsley who have at least been in the top tier in the last twenty years, unlike the Wendies. The place seems to remove all brain function to act or speak in a realistic manner. If they were a bit less arrogant and able to accept what they are then they would get a more sympathetic hearing. As it is South Yorkshire fans just look at them with contempt.
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I’ll have go against the trend, I prefer Wednesday to United mainly due to the fact that I was chased from Belle Vue to Cantley lights by 4 United fans after the League Cup victory in 1978, which doesn’t sound much but then I was 6 stone wet through 14 year old and these were grown men . Luckily I could run then .
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What was that CBCB? Not heard of us apologising to Orient before.
BobG
Not 100% sure,but I think he might be refering to the excrement smearing on toilet wall incident.
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Ah. Thank you. Yes. That would be something to apologise for wouldn't it? What sort of brain dead pillock could even think of doing something as juvenile and ridiculous as that? Obviously, the prat is an arsehole.
Pun intended.....
BobG
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Anybody else loving the shit show going down at Swillsbro?
I hate that club with a passion so I hope they rot for eternal life in division 4.
Reason you may ask, well I worked in Sheffield during our conference years and the blades lads at work always kept an eye out for our results and were quite knowledgeable about lower league football.
The Wednesday lads on the other hand only took the piss, knew f**k all about football in general and gloated about their attendances, win,lose or draw.
Weird fan base with a strange chip on the shoulder.
Absolutely loving seeing them cry on social media.
f**kers think they've got it bad, they really haven't got a clue.
Probably winding you up, knew they’d get a bite with every cast.
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" We are a massive club" is what they start out with when they whinge on. They are no more a big club than Barnsley who have at least been in the top tier in the last twenty years, unlike the Wendies. The place seems to remove all brain function to act or speak in a realistic manner. If they were a bit less arrogant and able to accept what they are then they would get a more sympathetic hearing. As it is South Yorkshire fans just look at them with contempt.
But what makes a club a big or a small club? everybody seems to have a different take. Barnsley having a season in the Prem' more recently than the Wendies makes them a bigger club? Surely a club is simply a group of individuals subscribing to a common entity in which case the size of a club is relative to the number of people in that club. Rising through the tiers will likely increase the numbers supporting a team and so inevitably those who have had long spells in the top division are likely to be the best supported, therefore bigger clubs. Wednesday have the support base they have due to being at the top of the pyramid 60 years ago.
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" We are a massive club" is what they start out with when they whinge on. They are no more a big club than Barnsley who have at least been in the top tier in the last twenty years, unlike the Wendies. The place seems to remove all brain function to act or speak in a realistic manner. If they were a bit less arrogant and able to accept what they are then they would get a more sympathetic hearing. As it is South Yorkshire fans just look at them with contempt.
But what makes a club a big or a small club? everybody seems to have a different take. Barnsley having a season in the Prem' more recently than the Wendies makes them a bigger club? Surely a club is simply a group of individuals subscribing to a common entity in which case the size of a club is relative to the number of people in that club. Rising through the tiers will likely increase the numbers supporting a team and so inevitably those who have had long spells in the top division are likely to be the best supported, therefore bigger clubs. Wednesday have the support base they have due to being at the top of the pyramid 60 years ago.
It’s not even true. Barnsley were last in the PL (and for the only season) in 1997-98, Wednesday were last relegated in 2000.
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A ‘big club’ is surely defined by its support base over given periods.
Rovers in the Championship would have a bigger fan base than next season, but we will never be classed as a big club.
Sheff Wednesday are one of the most successful (according to Wiki) in English football by major honours having, during their history, won 4 league1 titles, 3 FA Cups, one League Cup (beating Man Utd in the 1991 Final as a second tier team) & 1 Charity Shield.
They’ve competed in UEFA cup competitions on 4 occasions, reaching the quarter finals of the Internet-Cities Fairs Cup in 1963.
Their stadium has a capacity of 39,732 but this has temporarily been reduced to a capacity of of 34,835 on safety grounds. Only Leeds with a capacity of 39,460 has a higher capacity than The Owls in Yorkshire.
I’d class them as a big club.
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I feel for the fans of any club that gets into this kind of mess. It’s getting to Richardson levels with Chansiri. Wednesday are obviously a big club and with big potential to grow. That’s if they ever get owners who care and have some business sense and money to spend.
Yes the ground is overdue an upgrade but it’s still a great historic stadium. Only Premier League money would pay for that expansion, just like at any other club.
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All clubs have knuckle draggers. Those with the biggest followings will obviously have more.
It's not just in football either. Low life chavvy culture is endemic in the UK, in all walks of life.
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I agree with both the above posts. Wednesday were a truly great club when I saw some of their games in early 60s when I worked there and none of the fans that I knew of either Sheffield club were much different fundamentally from my mates at Rovers.
Fan Culture in the game has deteriorated at the lower end particularly as social media has opened up the channels of mud-slinging. When you stood alongside opposition supporters at matches it was so different.
There is surely also no doubt that Owners have a part, often a big part, in defining the character that a club projects and Wednesday's material assets are possessed by someone who you imagine their mature and intelligent followers wish were not there.
I think I just feel sorry for them. Why should they all deserve it?
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Listening to Talksport yestetday an interview with John Textor, late of Crystal Palace said he was looking at taking over a Championship club and did not deny it was SWFC.
Watch this space
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I think he's friendly with Simon Jordan, I seem to remember, and Jordan had said that Wednesday are the team to buy at the minute for to fan base, now that Leeds have become a premier team
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Doesn’t chansiri have form for doing this just as the transfer window opens - knowing they will get the penalty of not able to spend! Then all of a sudden players get paid. He is stringing them along.
I also hate them as a club and fans due to the were massive arrogance and also partly that they held special fan intro nights at the racecourse- keep it in Sheffield, do not come on our patch. Bang out of order.
However, as a rovers fan I can also feel the pain of the ordinary Wednesday fan.
And btw they are big club, it is always defined by fan base.
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Doesn’t chansiri have form for doing this just as the transfer window opens - knowing they will get the penalty of not able to spend! Then all of a sudden players get paid. He is stringing them along.
I also hate them as a club and fans due to the were massive arrogance and also partly that they held special fan intro nights at the racecourse- keep it in Sheffield, do not come on our patch. Bang out of order.
However, as a rovers fan I can also feel the pain of the ordinary Wednesday fan.
And btw they are big club, it is always defined by fan base.
some of the players who have a sell on value have been paid in full every month,it's just certain players that have not
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Heard Windass is away in Spain with Stockport ! Surely he’ll have options in the Championship?
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They will end up being a selling club, losing their best players and certain for relegation to L1.
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Seems like a takeover is imminent. Looks like Chansiri is having a bit of a fire sale of players before he leaves though.
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Seems like a takeover is imminent. Looks like Chansiri is having a bit of a fire sale of players before he leaves though.
Whoever does buy the club had better make sure they buy the ground as well. Chansiri sold it to himself a while ago.
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Looking at this, the potential new ownership look dodgy themselves.
New name 'heading up a consortium' to secure takeover of Sheffield Wednesday now shared https://eflanalysis.com/news/new-name-heading-up-a-consortium-to-secure-takeover-of-sheffield-wednesday-now-shared/
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It’s a consortium because none of them have got any money. Never a good sign.
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The three interested parties all sound mental to be honest. Textor has just got Lyon relegated (now overturned I think) because of their massive debts. There's this mad Italian chancer. Then theres another American who is a Trump cultist.
Nothing to suggest wendies won't be in the same boat 5 years down the line.
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When I became “aware” of wider football matters as a kid in the 70s, Sheffield Wednesday were in the 3rd division. Maybe they need a drop down, reset with new owners then build on their bigger city fan base.?
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When I became “aware” of wider football matters as a kid in the 70s, Sheffield Wednesday were in the 3rd division. Maybe they need a drop down, reset with new owners then build on their bigger city fan base.?
They've been trying to reset for a long time but somehow, each time they think the glory days might be round the corner, a heap of dung falls on them from a great height.
Taking what should be Yorkshire's top clubs in Leeds and Wednesday, they seem symbolic of their antiquated stadiums, living in the past, while clubs of similar size have modernised, particularly their Lancashire and North East counterparts. Yes, Leeds owners have announced stadium expansion plans but these are long overdue. The owners don't seem to see the same potential in Yorkshire Clubs. Simon Jordan recommended Wesnesday to the next Saudi Prince looking to buy, but how sad is it, the Prince said he's not interested in Northern clubs and is more likely to buy a London club, possibly Millwall.
Personally, I'd rather the Saudi's come no where near buying our heritage but finding 'good' owners who have genuine vision isn't easy.
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As far as I can recall the last major ground work at Leeds was for Euro 96.
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The latest is that it might be sold, but knowing their owner it might not be good news.
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At least some of the players and non-playing staff have been paid their June wages now after Wednesday sold a few players. Proper hand to mouth stuff over there.
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At least some of the players and non-playing staff have been paid their June wages now after Wednesday sold a few players. Proper hand to mouth stuff over there.
He is only paying the players in full who have a resale value so they cannot walk away for free the others are only been part paid of there wages which is shocking
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c07dy738drpo
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Their ramshackle home has been a condemned derelict building for 30 years or more, never had enough money to do anything. "big club" now?
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Josh windass and Michael smith had their contracts terminated
It’s all going wrong at hillsborough
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Got to be favourites for relegation this season.
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Unless their chairman burns down the stadium, they drop to non league, have to borrow a kit from sheff utd, play night games in the afternoon to save electric on floodlights, sign Sunday league players and pick them up on the way to away games.
Then they still don't know they are born.
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Got to be favourites for relegation this season.
They are.
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Josh windass and Michael smith had their contracts terminated
It’s all going wrong at hillsborough
Windass off to Wrexham I think.
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Hopefully a L1 club doesn’t sign Smith. Really good player at this level.
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Hopefully a L1 club doesn’t sign Smith. Really good player at this level.
I’ve seen Derby mentioned. Surely too good for league 1
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Hopefully a L1 club doesn’t sign Smith. Really good player at this level.
I’ve seen Derby mentioned. Surely too good for league 1
He’s knocking on a bit now isn’t he. L1 wouldn’t be a massive shock.
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Hopefully a L1 club doesn’t sign Smith. Really good player at this level.
Gone to Preston on two year deal.
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Josh windass and Michael smith had their contracts terminated
It’s all going wrong at hillsborough
Windass off to Wrexham I think.
Signed for Wrexham on three year deal.
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Will the wendies do a Bolton? "Sorry we can't field a team", demotion on the horizon now.
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A ‘big club’ is surely defined by its support base over given periods.
Rovers in the Championship would have a bigger fan base than next season, but we will never be classed as a big club.
Sheff Wednesday are one of the most successful (according to Wiki) in English football by major honours having, during their history, won 4 league1 titles, 3 FA Cups, one League Cup (beating Man Utd in the 1991 Final as a second tier team) & 1 Charity Shield.
They’ve competed in UEFA cup competitions on 4 occasions, reaching the quarter finals of the Internet-Cities Fairs Cup in 1963.
Their stadium has a capacity of 39,732 but this has temporarily been reduced to a capacity of of 34,835 on safety grounds. Only Leeds with a capacity of 39,460 has a higher capacity than The Owls in Yorkshire.
I’d class them as a big club.
Anyone who says there not a big club imo doesn't understand football clubs. Put them in the prem and they will have on of the biggest attendance every home game. They would sell out fact. I'm surprised a rich oil man hasn't been sniffing about tbh. For the right price with the right owner they could sustain top flight football minimum.
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Even if they somehow sold every single seat it would only be the tenth largest Premier League gate, compared against average gates from last season and that’s without including the huge new Everton stadium. Hillsborough is no longer a large ground at the highest level.
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Brentford and Bournemouth do alright, what have attendances to do with anything?
Well run football clubs, it’s all about great leadership at the top end of the club, as we’ve found out. What you see on the pitch (front end) represents what sits behind. Everything is driven from above.
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See how Brentford do this year , big players gone , Franks gone this year will show if it's as good a club as thought .
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Even what appear to be well run football clubs don't always get it right. Luton for example more recently. It's not always about finance. In Wednesdays case, the owner has always seemed to have a very careless attitude to doing things properly and has thrown good money after bad. The current situation is entirely of his own making and has been brewing for some years. Even with the best Owners and Directors tests, it would struggle to identify the character faults which have led to their current plight. Any owner who's parted with many millions must be reluctant to throw the towel in when they know they're likely to get very little in return for the sale by comparison.
Brentford may faulter after Frank's departure but I very much doubt they'll fall to the level of SWFC being a basket case club.
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Even what appear to be well run football clubs don't always get it right. Luton for example more recently. It's not always about finance. In Wednesdays case, the owner has always seemed to have a very careless attitude to doing things properly and has thrown good money after bad. The current situation is entirely of his own making and has been brewing for some years. Even with the best Owners and Directors tests, it would struggle to identify the character faults which have led to their current plight. Any owner who's parted with many millions must be reluctant to throw the towel in when they know they're likely to get very little in return for the sale by comparison.
Brentford may faulter after Frank's departure but I very much doubt they'll fall to the level of SWFC being a basket case club.
Although I cannot claim to have made any special study of the subject, the names of some club owners are well known because they deliberately advertise their identity - in Chasiri’s case by having it emblazoned across the seats in one of the main stands. This implies that it is very important to him to have people know who he is when the most important thing for a club is for the team to be successful.
As DBZ says it is by no means certain that it is possible to make an informed judgment of the likely behaviour of a prospective owner even with the new Legislation in place. It would seem to demand that the holders of the golden share be provided with funds to employ a professional financial expert to carry out a forensic examination of the potential owner’s business history. Although it would be no guarantee, it might at least eliminate those most likely to be unsuitable.
I wonder if all clubs are as welcoming (or permitted to be by their governments) to foreign owners as we are in the UK? Some knowledge and respect of the culture would be helpful…