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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Branton Red on July 17, 2025, 09:15:01 pm
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Never been a footballer.
Never has the phrase "you're only as strong as your weakest link" been so apt.
How on Earth is she still on the pitch?!
So frustrating as the rest of the team are super talented.
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England have had some decent chances this 2nd half so far. Could easily be level.
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Hilarious stuff, we’ve got EFL teams trying to play out from the back ala Barcelona 15 years ago, now the Women are doing it, when is it going to dawn on lower level football this is outdated and unless you’ve got world class players it simply does not work. Opposition must love it when teams fart around at the back. Thank goodness McCann doesn’t go down this dreadful over coached, trying to be clever route.
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Madness !!
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What a turnaround!
Chloe Kelly take a bow
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England have had some decent chances this 2nd half so far. Could easily be level.
And you are right !
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Should have won that in 90 mins..
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No. 17 causing havoc, Kelly doing Beckham impressions on crosses.
It’s tense stuff now.
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Wow! That was some penalty shootout.
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Great display of shit penaltys
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The strangest penslty shootout there
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Get in!
Wow. Not sure how they got through that.
THE worst penalty shoot out I've ever seen!
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I only saw extra time onwards, but England are very very lucky, so poor in comparison to previous games I have seen. The Swedes were the better team in that.
A lot of hype around James, she didn’t come across very well to me, looked lazy, an attitude she is better and didn’t want to work to hard.
This is admittedly after only seeing them for the first time.
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Talk about lionesses. Absolute warriors. Lucy Bronze in particular will be sore tomorrow.
The penalty shootout showed some tired legs but England teams just do not show that kind of character usually. Between this team, the U21s winning, and some near misses with the men's team, we're changing that. Slowly.
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Three very good penalties but the rest from both sides would shame a kid’s game. Terrible example.
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Lucy bronze from the 2nd half and onwards was immense, some engine on her and to strap her own leg up and get on with it. That penalty was smashed with passion, nothing fancy like the misses before her.
Also though the defenders who finished the game looked bettwr and faster than the ones that started. Especially morgan.
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TBF James was very decent, showed some class touches in the game.
Bronze’s penalty was a proper pelanty the rest were ropey. However the girls, Players, commentators, pundits showing loads of football passion (some of them can barely speak) what’s not to like? Great stuff!
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Jess Carter was left exposed as she was when we got well beat by France. Big risk taking on the defensive line up.
We've been poor and sloppy for long periods with Kiera Walsh contributing very little, in fact hiding in midfield.
James was poor today but, we didn't get her on the ball enough early doors so she tends to get frustrated and does her own thing.
Weigman has stuck with a few players for too long but, they keep getting her out of jail.
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Lucy bronze from the 2nd half and onwards was immense, some engine on her and to strap her own leg up and get on with it. That penalty was smashed with passion, nothing fancy like the misses before her.
Also though the defenders who finished the game looked bettwr and faster than the ones that started. Especially morgan.
Bronze was the only one that realised the Swedish keeper commited early everytime,so either wait to see which way she commits and shoot the other or smash it down middle because she never stays in middle,virtual all the rest of our takers made their mind which way to shoot and telegraphed it by looking that way constantly,Swedish keeper was good at reading that,we got very,very lucky because most of Sweden pens missed the target,whereas our was saved by what I stated previously.
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Sorry but can we stop pretending it's an elite sport. Who says BBC don't do great comedies anymore.
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The strangest penslty shootout there
A bit reminiscent of the Gainsborough one in last seasons FACup.
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Never been a footballer.
Never has the phrase "you're only as strong as your weakest link" been so apt.
How on Earth is she still on the pitch?!
So frustrating as the rest of the team are super talented.
I was saying the same thing (about Carter) this morning.
Morgan should start the semi final ahead of her.
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Sorry but can we stop pretending it's an elite sport. Who says BBC don't do great comedies anymore.
If you don't like it, don't watch it. No-one's forcing you to.
I'll bet you paid good money out a few years ago to watch the likes of Cukur and Dodoo, who couldn't trap a f*cking bag of cement.
Now that WAS a great comedy.
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Never been a footballer.
Never has the phrase "you're only as strong as your weakest link" been so apt.
How on Earth is she still on the pitch?!
So frustrating as the rest of the team are super talented.
I was saying the same thing (about Carter) this morning.
Morgan should start the semi final ahead of her.
Totally agree, mate. There's no way Jess Carter should start against Italy. She's not good enough.
I would also start with Chloe Kelly instead of Lauren Hemp.
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Carter really struggles when teams get the ball forward quickly, she has no pace at all, was poor again last night.
There were lots of others who underperformed, at times the passing was awful and they gave the ball away too easily.
Comments about James are probably a little harsh, and last night it seemed like her fitness was beginning to tell due to her recent layoff, plus the very hard blow she took to her face against the Netherlands.
Struggle to understand RIS comment about thank goodness Grant does play out from the back?. Some of our poor games last season were exactly a result of playing out too slowly from the back and not getting the ball forward quickly enough!
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I was impressed by accurate passing throughout the game but Sweden kept the pressure on, obviously a better second half from England.
Moore played out from the back and produced some good watchable football.
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Our penalty fails may have been telegraphed and under hit , but blimey Swedes missed target 3 out 7? . Their first scoring one was an absolute belter too
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Never been a footballer.
Never has the phrase "you're only as strong as your weakest link" been so apt.
How on Earth is she still on the pitch?!
So frustrating as the rest of the team are super talented.
I was saying the same thing (about Carter) this morning.
Morgan should start the semi final ahead of her.
Totally agree, mate. There's no way Jess Carter should start against Italy. She's not good enough.
I would also start with Chloe Kelly instead of Lauren Hemp.
Yes, Hemp has been a shadow of her former self but she seems glued to the left flank. When she and Russo have played as a pair more centrally, they've caused lots of problems. It's probably a consequence of accommodating Lauren James. You could easily play Kelly from the off, with either Hemp or James playing more centrally in a no 10 type role.
The biggest miss for me is Millie Bright who's left a gaping hole at the back with an aging Williamson having to hold things together.
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Possibly the most shambolic penalty shootout in the history of football.
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I only saw extra time onwards, but England are very very lucky, so poor in comparison to previous games I have seen. The Swedes were the better team in that.
A lot of hype around James, she didn’t come across very well to me, looked lazy, an attitude she is better and didn’t want to work to hard.
This is admittedly after only seeing them for the first time.
England weren’t poor n the second half - which you missed. Worked hard, played some decent stuff, defended resolutely and changed the game with the subs.
A bit harsh to say they were poor when you only saw them play when half of them were knackered, particularly James, who tracked back and defenced to the end.
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Watching Carter defend reminded me of my final Donny Sunday league match. Too old and could get close enough to the young un's running around me. She lost concentration and positioning with the ball played in behind her and then running in treacle trying to catch up, the look on her face of frustration took me right back.
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It’s not a poor penalty if the keeper guesses wrong!
All of England’s penalties were on target, even if not we’ll struck. Some admittedly looked obvious which way they were going, making them easier to save. Sweden missed the goal 3 times.
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It’s not a poor penalty if the keeper guesses wrong!
All of England’s penalties were on target, even if not we’ll struck. Some admittedly looked obvious which way they were going, making them easier to save. Sweden missed the goal 3 times.
I’ve read this a few times and can’t say I agree, it’s outcome bias. A poor penalty is still a poor penalty even if it’s scored. A really good penalty is extremely unlikely to be saved even if the keeper guesses right, whereas a poor penalty has only a tiny chance of going in if the keeper does guess right.
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Outcome bias.??
Bloody hell, if it’s a goal, it’s a goal.!
I’ve seen plenty of times when a soft penalty goes the other way to the keeper, the commentator says “slotted coolly home” etc
The trick is deceiving the keeper.
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Well done England. Carter was abysmal and it seemed she had lead in her boots.her distribution was poor.
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Outcome bias.??
Bloody hell, if it’s a goal, it’s a goal.!
I’ve seen plenty of times when a soft penalty goes the other way to the keeper, the commentator says “slotted coolly home” etc
The trick is deceiving the keeper.
Judging something solely by the outcome is literally the definition of outcome bias!
Deceiving the keeper is a skill that some players have but that’s another thing entirely.
Hope the Lionesses put a bit of practice in on the training ground between now and the semi!
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High and hard the keeper never gets it, they don’t dive up
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Outcome bias.??
Bloody hell, if it’s a goal, it’s a goal.!
I’ve seen plenty of times when a soft penalty goes the other way to the keeper, the commentator says “slotted coolly home” etc
The trick is deceiving the keeper.
Judging something solely by the outcome is literally the definition of outcome bias!
Deceiving the keeper is a skill that some players have but that’s another thing entirely.
Hope the Lionesses put a bit of practice in on the training ground between now and the semi!
A penalty shoot out is all about outcome..
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But scoring them is a mixture of both technique and luck. Good technique doesn't always score. Bad technique often fails to score and depends on luck to actually do so.
BobG
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Tim Ryan at Chester, that was a poor penalty technically but it went in so who cares
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High and hard the keeper never gets it, they don’t dive up
Absolutely; like Lucy Bronze's.
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High and hard the keeper never gets it, they don’t dive up
Completely agree. You bring blazing it over in to play though, like a couple of their players did.
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Just a mention of Sarina Wiegman. I thought her substitutions were superb, and completely changed the game.
Also, Hannah Hampton. A big ask to replace the best woman keeper in the world, Mary Earps, but she made 3 massive saves to keep us in the game, and then 2 penalty saves.
Brilliant.
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High and hard the keeper never gets it, they don’t dive up
Absolutely; like Lucy Bronze's.
I was willing her to do exactly what she did. The Swedish keeper was eyeballing our players to guess which way to dive, successfully, saving the tame shots. She was diving every time, so a blast down the middle was a great option.
There were some of the players I didn’t think should have taken one, as they were exhausted, but good on them for stepping up.
Shouldn’t underestimate the Italians next, much lower ranked but in the semi on merit.
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Gotta give chloe kelly credit for hers also.
Camera showed the swedish keeper checking her notes just before and must of tried to put off kelly because kelly sent her the wrong way and then gave her a bit afterwards
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Can anyone remember the American implementation of a penalty (running in from a 30yrd line and shooting, like in ice-hockey)
Could you imagine the fun to be had if that interpretation had ever been implemented and had been the penalty shoot out in this match.
We may still be watching to this day!!
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I was impressed by accurate passing throughout the game but Sweden kept the pressure on, obviously a better second half from England.
Moore played out from the back and produced some good watchable football.
I don’t think there was anyone called Moore on the pitch.
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Surprised no one has mentioned our old friend the water bottle!
Seemed like the keeper went in the right place for most of the kicks, surely the England players saw the printed labels, so questionable way they didn’t mix up from their normal penalties.
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Surprised no one has mentioned our old friend the water bottle!
Seemed like the keeper went in the right place for most of the kicks, surely the England players saw the printed labels, so questionable way they didn’t mix up from their normal penalties.
Gotta give chloe kelly credit for hers also.
Camera showed the swedish keeper checking her notes just before and must of tried to put off kelly because kelly sent her the wrong way and then gave her a bit afterwards
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Surprised no one has mentioned our old friend the water bottle!
Seemed like the keeper went in the right place for most of the kicks, surely the England players saw the printed labels, so questionable way they didn’t mix up from their normal penalties.
Would players have been able to read the printed labels from twelve yards away?
Penalties are always mind games between the taker and the keeper anyway so players changing from their normal routines wouldn’t be particularly good anyway.
Good takers can put them either side of the keeper.
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It’s not about being able to read them, more knowing that she’s done her research, and changing your usual approach because of that.
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It’s not about being able to read them, more knowing that she’s done her research, and changing your usual approach because of that.
Like I said, mind games.
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Surprised no one has mentioned our old friend the water bottle!
Seemed like the keeper went in the right place for most of the kicks, surely the England players saw the printed labels, so questionable way they didn’t mix up from their normal penalties.
If I was a manager, I’d tell the players where to shoot from penalties. Eliminates any advantage from the keeper doing their “homework”.
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I hate saying this, but I honestly can't see anyone beating Spain.
I hope I'm proved wrong.
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I never thought I'd ever cheer for a German football team, but by God I did last night.
The adversity they had to overcome was colossal, mainly caused by the stupidity of one of their own players.
I gave them little chance before the game, against one of the most dangerous teams in the competition, and even less during the game; but they refused to be beaten.
Well done.
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Notice how at least two of the French penalties were as tame as the English ones, but scored, because the German keeper went the wrong way.? Yes the French women may have seen her start to move a split second before taking the kicks, but even so.. the outcome was still the same and an equally tense shoot out as the other night.
Now I’m wondering if the momentum from winning those shoot outs will be enough for both England and Germany to progress to the final.?