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Title: Thoughts
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 02, 2025, 06:00:57 pm
We were the better side in a game where no team was yet fully up to speed. Exeter's tactics were ... baffling. Completely sat off us and let us play but didn't really offer anything on the counter-attack.

Positives - Middleton (excellent crosses and workrate), Broadbent - (controlled the game from deep), the defense - generally solid, if play is infront of them, we'll have few problems. They got a bit flustered on the two occasions their players got in behind, but its something we can manage.

Open questions. If Middleton keeps banging in crosses like that, who gets on the end of them? Hanlan? He'll have to prove himself because today he didn't really offer that much. The other question is what does our ideal midfield look like? Still not sure McCann knows himself. We always look better when Bailey and Broadbent are not alongside each other and who sits behind the striker? Gotts, Sbarra, Clifton, Ajayi?
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: RoversInSpain on August 02, 2025, 06:08:39 pm
Ajayi needs to be in the box for Middleton’s super crosses.
Can see a great link up with Maxwell and Middleton with the already formed Moly and Sterry. Get the right players in the box and it could be very interesting on the “Goals For” column.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 02, 2025, 06:11:02 pm
Interesting Ajayi came on and played as the 10. Maybe that's the switch McCann is going to be playing this season. Clifton playing of the most forward of the three offers something a bit more solid, while Ajayi offers something far more threatening.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Padge_DRFC on August 02, 2025, 06:18:24 pm
Interesting the Ajayi came on and played as the 10. Maybe that's the switch McCann is going to be playing this season. Clifton playing of the most forward of the three offers something a bit more solid, while Ajayi offers something far more threatening.

Ajayi looked decent and a big upgrade when coming on
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: GazLaz on August 02, 2025, 06:20:50 pm
Pretty solid performance against a team that offered pretty much nothing. Though all the new guys had an impact.


Broadbent looked the part in midfield I thought.


Tougher tests to come, can’t make too many judgements either way on the opening day.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: DollyRover on August 02, 2025, 06:21:45 pm
I agree with every word of this
 My thoughts exactly.
I was sat behind ajayi brother and I've never willed the ball to go in more than the chance he had
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: NickDRFC on August 02, 2025, 06:26:54 pm
Don’t really disagree with any of this. Middleton, Broadbent and O’Riordan all showed up well. More to come hopefully from Hanlan but on that showing he’s a step down from Street. The midfield balance still isn’t quite right.

I’ve got Exeter to finish 2nd bottom this season (and Wimbledon are bottom more in hope than expectation) so on paper one of our easier games. Can’t ask for much more than a win and a clean sheet when you’ve got 5 starters who weren’t even here last season, though.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 02, 2025, 06:32:52 pm
It was a 7/10 for me. We could have been better attack wise but we were solid, controlled and defended well. We probably started a bit slow but then took control.

O'Riordan looks an excellent centre half so composed, has a bit of Matt Mills about him.  I also thought Broadband was good in the middle and lots of others showed up well.

Plenty to look forward to. I'd still like another striker if Ironside isn't in the frame, I could see him moving on.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 02, 2025, 06:43:32 pm
The 9 and 10 position are still an issue for me but it’s still early days and we got 3 points, I’d agree with the 7/10 verdict
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: CottyRover on August 02, 2025, 06:43:59 pm
I would agree that Hanlon was disappointing today. A bit ago we might have ended up losing one nil to a one off attack. Did Exeter sit back, or did we not let them play? In the first half in particular we had the bulk of possession. A reasonable attendance, but perhaps not as good as we might have hoped.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: danumdon on August 02, 2025, 06:55:44 pm
I feel sorry for Joe missing out on that masterclass of wide play and crossing from Middleton, i'm sure he would have had a field day on that. Hanlon looks a different player and will need balls threaded through for him to run onto or lay off.

Nice steady start i thought, not too many drama's and with a bit more luck we could have had a couple more. The team is still getting to know each other and will improve with the matches, 3 points better than the 1 with plenty to build on, god start.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Ian Nimmo on August 02, 2025, 06:56:00 pm
Yes I thought Hanlan struggled today, and their centre back certainly got the upper hand.
Middleton played very well, some superb crosses into the box, unfortunately no one was able to capitalise on these. Surprised he was replaced by Gibson, who didn’t offer anything.
There were some others who offered a decent contribution, and totally agree with the  MOM choice.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: CottyRover on August 02, 2025, 07:07:01 pm
Glad to see Wentworth, their smart arse goalkeeper beaten by Mols' penalty
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: eastender on August 02, 2025, 07:07:57 pm
Surprised no one has mentioned TLT's superb save taking it off their players foot when he was through one on one , a match winning save.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 02, 2025, 07:18:49 pm
I feel sorry for Joe missing out on that masterclass of wide play and crossing from Middleton, i'm sure he would have had a field day on that. Hanlon looks a different player and will need balls threaded through for him to run onto or lay off.

Nice steady start i thought, not too many drama's and with a bit more luck we could have had a couple more. The team is still getting to know each other and will improve with the matches, 3 points better than the 1 with plenty to build on, god start.

Would tend to agree but Ironside wasn't getting on the end of many crosses last season either. Both too static in the centre of the park, easy for centre half's to mark.

With the quality of Middletons crosses, someone, in addition to our centre forward, has to attack them. Ideally someone like Bailey who's a good header of the ball.

Has Molyneux got it in his contract he has to take all the free kicks? His quality on the ball today wasn't good until late on when he put in a couple of decent cut backs. Middleton deserves a fair shout at taking a few free kicks and corners.

Whilst the 3 points were great and just about deserved, we can be much better as up and till the last 15, I thought we were too ponderous and predictable. Billy and Ajayi made a positive difference.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 02, 2025, 07:28:31 pm
Shame that Joe’s just been cold shouldered. He would have thrived today as mentioned above.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: MachoMadness on August 02, 2025, 07:32:15 pm
Solid performance today, against admittedly one of the weaker teams in the division. Still you can only beat what's in front of you and all that, and I thought we looked assured and in control for the most part. You'd have no idea we were in L2 last season, put it that way.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: MachoMadness on August 02, 2025, 07:33:27 pm
Shame that Joe’s just been cold shouldered. He would have thrived today as mentioned above.
He isn't fully fit is he? Missed most of pre season after a groin problem I thought.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: NickDRFC on August 02, 2025, 07:34:43 pm
Shame that Joe’s just been cold shouldered. He would have thrived today as mentioned above.

Do you know something I don’t?
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Branton Red on August 02, 2025, 07:36:22 pm
Broadbent was my MoM - very good throughout.

Middleton was excellent in the first half - think it's correct to question why the centre forward wasn't able to read the game well enough to get on the end of at least one of his crosses.

Exeter set up for a 0-0 and were well-organized and worked very hard. It nearly came off for them. Their keeper didn't have a save to make and they lost to a late, very harsh penalty.

It's difficult to break teams down when they play like that. Rovers perhaps could have moved the ball more quickly at times. Justice was done in the end though.

I don't think we've learnt too much today as to how well Rovers will fare this season.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: drfchound on August 02, 2025, 07:44:55 pm
It was a 7/10 for me. We could have been better attack wise but we were solid, controlled and defended well. We probably started a bit slow but then took control.

O'Riordan looks an excellent centre half so composed, has a bit of Matt Mills about him.  I also thought Broadband was good in the middle and lots of others showed up well.

Plenty to look forward to. I'd still like another striker if Ironside isn't in the frame, I could see him moving on.

Broadband was really switched on today.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Pintolager on August 02, 2025, 07:47:28 pm
A workmanlike performance today I thought. The team still gelling and performances will improve. I will be in a minority here but thought that Hanlon was ok and could be a good player for us, he puts himself about and creates problems. Would love to see Ajayi against Mansfield, what a signing he could be!

A nice 3 points today to get off the mark.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: drfchound on August 02, 2025, 07:50:26 pm
A workmanlike performance today I thought. The team still gelling and performances will improve. I will be in a minority here but thought that Hanlon was ok and could be a good player for us, he puts himself about and creates problems. Would love to see Ajayi against Mansfield, what a signing he could be!

A nice 3 points today to get off the mark.

You aren’t by yourself, I also thought Hanlan did okay.
He worked his socks off and did his bit for the team.
Chances were hard to come by against a packed defence so I’m not surprised that he didn’t get any scoring opportunities.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Padge_DRFC on August 02, 2025, 07:51:44 pm
Molyneux was lucky not to be subbed today. He was poor. Middleton better. We won't win more than we lose playing Clifton as the 10. Ajayi offered way more when he replaced him.

I can see Ironside departing. We'll likely sign a striker on loan
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Drover on August 02, 2025, 07:56:00 pm
I feel we are better,faster,bigger,stronger than last season,in which we won League Two title,so looking very good for this coming season,only little worry was not as clinical with the few chances in the box we created,but im pretty confident that will improve as we go along,we have so many options to tweak too.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: donnievic on August 02, 2025, 08:07:32 pm
Thoroughly deserved the win but like last season at  times it’s just in the final 3rd,think at times this season they could hurt teams on the break like they played today but thought we were superb without the ball and got back quickly when needed apart from when Timmy came out and dived a their players feet to scope the ball away.
Think again we could also be set up to play better attacking football on the break away from home
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: ForsolongaRover on August 02, 2025, 08:22:20 pm
Molyneux was lucky not to be subbed today. He was poor. Middleton better. We won't win more than we lose playing Clifton as the 10. Ajayi offered way more when he replaced him.

I can see Ironside departing. We'll likely sign a striker on loan

Ironside is an option, but perhaps the two players with the quick feet for a crowded box should have had a full 45 minutes, that is Sharp and Ajayi. The Sterry-Molyneux combo was much missed. Middleton was impressively industrious on the other wing and we might hope that he can develop a similar relationship with Maxwell.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: DRFCSouth on August 02, 2025, 08:25:08 pm
Good performance all round for an opening day.
Molyneux - had more success when dropping inside, and they weren't tracking him.
O'Riordan - Very good all round. Strong in the air, good on the ball for a big man.
Pearson - Strong in the air. Good distribution.
Middleton - Good crosser of the ball. Going to be an asset.
Hanlan - Worked hard for the team. Not easy with one up front.
Ajayi - Showed his class with great movement and the odd near killer pass.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: mushRTID on August 02, 2025, 08:38:27 pm
Maxwell got into some very good advanced positions but his delivery’s were dreadful.

He needs to improve on that massively.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 02, 2025, 08:54:56 pm
I thought it was a frustrating watch for large parts of it. I agree we just about deserved the 3 points, but we were oh so slow in our build up.

Pearson looks solid but don’t ask him to turn and outpace many strikers in this league. O’Riordon was excellent. Shame about Sterry and it looks like an op for him. Ajayi had to score! Their guy knew little of it.

Surprised Billy didn’t take the pen but Mols put it away, but I agree Mols had a poor game by his standards.

We need a ‘Street’ and a ‘Crew’ to add a bit more quality.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 02, 2025, 09:13:50 pm
I suspect there will be a minority of games where we will have that much possession. There are a lot of strong sides in League One and we are going to be playing on the break a lot more than we were able last season, where we were one of the strongest sides and sides just sat, and we struggled. Hardly any games this season will see us with as much possession as we had today I would imagine.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: StocksArmy on August 02, 2025, 09:33:02 pm
Most comfortable I have ever felt in a competitive game. Whether that’s because Exeter were poor or I just felt we were really controlled I’m not sure. Thought we were patient and didn’t play with any real panic even when the game went into the later stages. In my opinion a travesty that a penalty decided it and gave their bench an excuse to argue about the spot kick as we gave enough to run out comfortable winners. Taking Middleton and Hanlan off was bizarre but hey ho that’s why we have a squad I suppose.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: colincramb on August 02, 2025, 09:41:35 pm
Thought we looked totally in control but had a feeling we might get done by a set piece or break away. Ajayi looked very lively and had some lovely touches. Broadbent controlled midfield. Think we will be hard to take points from this season. Encouraging start overall
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: GazLaz on August 02, 2025, 09:59:19 pm
Our centre chances completed 192 passes between them. That won’t happen again this season pretty sure.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 02, 2025, 10:23:47 pm
It felt like every match up to February last season when we played a team around 8th-15th.

They said to us "We will let you have all the possession because we don't think you're very good at breaking sides down who do that."

We huffed and puffed and had a few bits of quality, but we got lucky. That's great. I'll take that.

I've long been thinking McCann has built a style for dealing with hitting teams fast on the break when we don't have much possession. Be interesting to see us play one of those games.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 02, 2025, 10:24:42 pm
I suspect there will be a minority of games where we will have that much possession. There are a lot of strong sides in League One and we are going to be playing on the break a lot more than we were able last season, where we were one of the strongest sides and sides just sat, and we struggled. Hardly any games this season will see us with as much possession as we had today I would imagine.

Sorry, just seen this post. Agree 100%
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Exeter Red on August 02, 2025, 11:31:20 pm
We were the better side in a game where no team was yet fully up to speed. Exeter's tactics were ... baffling. Completely sat off us and let us play but didn't really offer anything on the counter-attack.

Positives - Middleton (excellent crosses and workrate), Broadbent - (controlled the game from deep), the defense - generally solid, if play is infront of them, we'll have few problems. They got a bit flustered on the two occasions their players got in behind, but its something we can manage.

Open questions. If Middleton keeps banging in crosses like that, who gets on the end of them? Hanlan? He'll have to prove himself because today he didn't really offer that much. The other question is what does our ideal midfield look like? Still not sure McCann knows himself. We always look better when Bailey and Broadbent are not alongside each other and who sits behind the striker? Gotts, Sbarra, Clifton, Ajayi?

Just some context from a visiting fan there today. It looks like the manager had to change the game plan today as we were without 8 of our players. Four would likely have started and 4 would have been on the bench. We had to put 3 Academy kids on the bench. Two that came on had never even played a minute prior to today. To say we were down to bare bones would be an understatement. Yet for the majority of the game the plan of letting you have the ball worked as apart from the one shot at the end you never made our keeper work once. The only shot on goal was the pen. I would say this but according to the new rules any penalties awarded seemingly have to be seen as deliberate. It most certainly wasn't deliberate
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: GazLaz on August 03, 2025, 07:09:21 am
It felt like every match up to February last season when we played a team around 8th-15th.

They said to us "We will let you have all the possession because we don't think you're very good at breaking sides down who do that."

We huffed and puffed and had a few bits of quality, but we got lucky. That's great. I'll take that.

I've long been thinking McCann has built a style for dealing with hitting teams fast on the break when we don't have much possession. Be interesting to see us play one of those games.


I think the team is certainly more suited to playing without the ball. Maybe that’s the evolution that comes this season and we become less vulnerable to being countered when we have possession and also create more chances and control games better when when we have a lot of the ball.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Spud on August 03, 2025, 08:46:01 am
It felt like every match up to February last season when we played a team around 8th-15th.

They said to us "We will let you have all the possession because we don't think you're very good at breaking sides down who do that."

We huffed and puffed and had a few bits of quality, but we got lucky. That's great. I'll take that.

I've long been thinking McCann has built a style for dealing with hitting teams fast on the break when we don't have much possession. Be interesting to see us play one of those games.

I said the same, had a feel of a pre Rob Street game last season. I think we'll do OK, but if we can add that final price again we could be in for another belter of a season.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 03, 2025, 09:08:58 am
I'd be very surprised if any team comes to our ground and plays like Exeter did. I am still a bit baffled by Caldwell's tactics (wasn't he in line for the Rovers job at one point?). They sat so deep and refused any sort of press.

Weren't they previously known as a footballing team when that bald guy with the cravat was in charge?
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 03, 2025, 12:34:06 pm
I'd be very surprised if any team comes to our ground and plays like Exeter did. I am still a bit baffled by Caldwell's tactics (wasn't he in line for the Rovers job at one point?). They sat so deep and refused any sort of press.

Weren't they previously known as a footballing team when that bald guy with the cravat was in charge?

I've a slight disagreement on that.

Yes they didn't press our defenders when they had the ball. But they pressed hard, fast and in numbers when we played the ball out to the wingers. That's what mostly nullified us and it's a tactic we saw work against us time and again for the first 2/3rds of last season.

Ajayi made a huge difference, because until he came on, we had no Plan B to take them on through the centre when the blocked the wings.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: drfchound on August 03, 2025, 12:53:18 pm
Well at least we have beaten a top half team.
When I looked at the league table yesterday morning Exeter were in 8th place.
 :chair:
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: NickDRFC on August 03, 2025, 01:33:54 pm
Well at least we have beaten a top half team.
When I looked at the league table yesterday morning Exeter were in 8th place.
 :chair:

Hahaha, enjoyed this! Little things like “that was the best I’ve seen us play all season” tickle me far more than it should.   :lol:
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Ian Nimmo on August 03, 2025, 04:38:34 pm
I feel sorry for Joe missing out on that masterclass of wide play and crossing from Middleton, i'm sure he would have had a field day on that. Hanlon looks a different player and will need balls threaded through for him to run onto or lay off.

Nice steady start i thought, not too many drama's and with a bit more luck we could have had a couple more. The team is still getting to know each other and will improve with the matches, 3 points better than the 1 with plenty to build on, god start.

Would tend to agree but Ironside wasn't getting on the end of many crosses last season either. Both too static in the centre of the park, easy for centre half's to mark.

With the quality of Middletons crosses, someone, in addition to our centre forward, has to attack them. Ideally someone like Bailey who's a good header of the ball.

Has Molyneux got it in his contract he has to take all the free kicks? His quality on the ball today wasn't good until late on when he put in a couple of decent cut backs. Middleton deserves a fair shout at taking a few free kicks and corners.

Whilst the 3 points were great and just about deserved, we can be much better as up and till the last 15, I thought we were too ponderous and predictable. Billy and Ajayi made a positive difference.

To be fair the crosses from Middleton were far superior to crosses into the box last season.

A main issue yesterday was that when we got the ball to edge of the penalty area, we were passing too much and direct shots were not being taken from good shooting positions.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: rich1471 on August 03, 2025, 05:21:37 pm
Molyneux was lucky not to be subbed today. He was poor. Middleton better. We won't win more than we lose playing Clifton as the 10. Ajayi offered way more when he replaced him.

I can see Ironside departing. We'll likely sign a striker on loan
Would Ironside have got his head onto some of those crosses from Middleton I think he would thrive on the balls that were put in yesterday
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: goalkick on August 03, 2025, 05:31:37 pm
Was disappointed with Hanlon but early days, needs to put himself around more but most people see happy with him.we will see.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: ncRover on August 03, 2025, 06:51:38 pm
Molyneux was lucky not to be subbed today. He was poor. Middleton better. We won't win more than we lose playing Clifton as the 10. Ajayi offered way more when he replaced him.

I can see Ironside departing. We'll likely sign a striker on loan

I hope that if there is a lack of firepower in the centre forward position that people don’t blame Ironside. He was under contract.

The opportunity to upgrade that position was in letting Sharp’s contract expire. Can’t do your business in the hope you can later sell someone.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Upton Rover on August 06, 2025, 06:01:03 am
A win is a win, best team on the day won