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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Ian Nimmo on August 14, 2025, 04:55:31 pm

Title: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: Ian Nimmo on August 14, 2025, 04:55:31 pm
Newcastle have agreed to pay villa 43m.
Whilst some are not totally ok with loans, can’t help thinking when you get players of this quality in a rovers shirt, it’s such a pleasure and honour.
Title: Re: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: ChrisBx on August 14, 2025, 04:56:38 pm
Such a shame we didn't get to see more of him!
Title: Re: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: keith79 on August 14, 2025, 04:57:59 pm
43m. games gone
Title: Re: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 14, 2025, 05:21:35 pm
Yeah crazy money. But I often do think clubs who've had this players on loan should get a small % of future fees for the development.
Title: Re: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: KingKendrick on August 14, 2025, 09:34:15 pm
Yeah crazy money. But I often do think clubs who've had this players on loan should get a small % of future fees for the development.
Would be nice for us but at the same time the chances are they subsidised his wages while we had him. I guess you could kinda call that a ‘payment’.
In terms of the fee £39m + 4 in difficult to achieve add ons does that make him the most expensive player to play for the club?
Title: Re: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: mushRTID on August 14, 2025, 09:36:25 pm
Yeah crazy money. But I often do think clubs who've had this players on loan should get a small % of future fees for the development.

Don’t see how that could ever happen.
If the player is that good, there will always be clubs who would take them without that clause.
Title: Re: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: Ian Nimmo on August 14, 2025, 10:20:28 pm
Yes with a lot of the young players we don’t pay anywhere near the amount they are paid by their club.
TSL will have been a prime example of this last season, whilst we don’t know the amounts involved we would only have paid L2 average or top end. Whereas he would have been on a mega salary with Chelsea, I believe Grant stated this at some point.
Title: Re: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on August 15, 2025, 08:22:48 am
Can’t really remember where we were at the time that season but he was class and if we had him for a full season we’d be right up there.

You’ve got to enjoy these players while they last but personally I much prefer to see a player like Broadbent or Whiteman before him join the club and grow year after year into a top player.
Title: Re: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: drfcsteve on August 15, 2025, 08:57:31 am
Does he become the most expensive player to ever wear a Rovers shirt?
Title: Re: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: CheeseToastie on August 15, 2025, 09:08:07 am
Ridiculous how villa are practically being forced to sell him so they can bring players in this FFP is absolute tosh. Villa must have sold best side of 250mill of players in the last 18 months and can't buy anyone. Where as the likes of Mufc and liverpool splash cash like it's not even there. Is there was ever a reason not to watch Premier league football that is it the game at the highest level is well and truly gone
Title: Re: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on August 15, 2025, 09:44:30 am
There is something a bit off about clubs rushing to sell their young home grown players because they count as all profit. They should be staying and becoming club legends but that will become even more rare now.

However if you zoom out a bit it’ll be good for the England team with clubs really valuing academy set ups because of the ability to fund the 1st team in a serious way.
Title: Re: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: Ian Nimmo on August 15, 2025, 10:31:48 am
Does he become the most expensive player to ever wear a Rovers shirt?

I believe this will be by quite a high amount.
One of the stat guys may have details, but i can’t think of anyone anywhere near 43m.
My first thought was about the time of the experiment, but even Diouf could only make around the 15m mark, and then some of the good keepers we have had, but they tend to be lower values.
Title: Re: Jacob Ramsey
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 15, 2025, 10:52:03 am
That’s definitely one way of assessing the fee, in pure cash terms. Given inflation in the transfer market over time, you could also use a more time-isolated proportionate metric, eg what the fee was in cash terms at the moment of transfer, as a proportion of the record transfer fee in place at that time. Ramsey for instance would be at around 38pc (£40m vs Enzo Fernandez at £105m). If you did that, then probably Tony Woodcock going for £600k to Cologne in 1979, when the record was Trevor Francis at £1m (ie 60pc) might be the best out there.