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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Thorney on August 19, 2025, 10:19:08 pm
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Anykne else have a clear view of the build up to the dropped ball given to huddersfield which lead to their goal?
Pretty sure it was our player who got a foot in to try and clear the ball which hit the ref.
Surely the dropped ball should of been awarded to us if so?
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I thought that too. A rovers player intercepted the ball which hit the bas**rd of a ref
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That's what I thought too so I googled the rule.
"Restarting with a dropped ball:
The dropped ball is given to a player of the team that last touched the ball before it hit the referee, at the location where the ball was when play was stopped"
I thought Nixon got the last touch so the drop ball should have gone to us
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It was a rovers foot. Think the ref gave it to them as it was going towards one of there players.
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It was a rovers foot. Think the ref gave it to them as it was going towards one of there players.
But then he got the rule wrong if thats why he did it.
Cannot believe that any players of grant didnt make more of a scene at the time
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Yes he did get it wrong.
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Bizarre decision, but we switched off immediately after , thought maybe the keeper could have done better but not seen it in real time so happy to be corrected
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Probably wrong, but was there a hint of offside?
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The penalty was never a penalty as well the guy fell over
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Definitely should've been given to us as our player was last to touch the ball before it hit the ref
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The most overriding factor for me is we didn’t take our chances. Dominant throughout and were punished by poor decisions, switching off or whatever else you want to call it. Really annoyed coming out of there. We either need to sign a striker or find our ruthless edge pretty sharpish because these performances do not warrant draws and losses. Players need to keep their heads up and not lose their confidence after that they were extremely good again.
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The most overriding factor for me is we didn’t take our chances. Dominant throughout and were punished by poor decisions, switching off or whatever else you want to call it. Really annoyed coming out of there. We either need to sign a striker or find our ruthless edge pretty sharpish because these performances do not warrant draws and losses. Players need to keep their heads up and not lose their confidence after that they were extremely good again.
Exactly this.
You have written what we were saying last night and so were some Udders supporters as we were walking back to the car
They said they were lucky not to be two down at half time.
One of the positives to take away from the game is that, like the Wycombe one, we should have had the game won by half time.
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The ref definitely gave the drop ball the wrong way.
https://www.refereepov.com/blogs/blog/what-really-happens-when-the-ball-hits-a-referee-explaining-law-9#:~:text=The%20team%20that%20last%20touched%20the%20ball%20before%20it%20hit,can%20participate%20in%20the%20restart.
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https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/2025-26-law-changes-explained
Rule change this year the drop ball goes to the team that would have gained posession which was Huddersfield not that the ref knew that as it was behind him
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The penalty was never a penalty as well the guy fell over
I thought it was harsh. On the replay it shows a slight tug of the shirt but its not often a pens given for that.
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The ref definitely gave the drop ball the wrong way.
https://www.refereepov.com/blogs/blog/what-really-happens-when-the-ball-hits-a-referee-explaining-law-9#:~:text=The%20team%20that%20last%20touched%20the%20ball%20before%20it%20hit,can%20participate%20in%20the%20restart. Was
The ref definitely gave the drop ball the wrong way.
https://www.refereepov.com/blogs/blog/what-really-happens-when-the-ball-hits-a-referee-explaining-law-9#:~:text=The%20team%20that%20last%20touched%20the%20ball%20before%20it%20hit,can%20participate%20in%20the%20restart.
no he didn’t if it touches the Ref now it goes to the team that would of got possession so he could of just played on but maybe thought was in too of a attacking advantage
Thought the ref had a decent upto the penalty,couldn’t see at the time till seen the replay and yes was holding his shirt but no way you go down like he did with that,and considering wot he let go in other areas from both teams with anything like that
Aswell as we played which was pleasing it was our missed chances in the 1st half that cost us in the end
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You're right grayx there is lots of shirt pulling goes off in the box and goes unpunished but the difference here is that the shirt pulling was on a player in the box with the ball at his feet. That is going to get far more attention from the ref than the shirt pulling at corners etc. It was a clear foul and soft or not a penalty is the correct decision.
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The ref pointed that we would have possession originally and then changed his mind and have it to them.
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The referee was a perfect example of a’homer’.
He couldn’t wait to give Huddersfield that penalty. He actually said it was a trip! What a moron!
He gave them the drop ball, which was ours, by the letter of the law, but he had his own version!
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If a small tug like that stops his legs from working, there would be a penalty at every corner kick.
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Whilst there was a slight tug on his shirt, it was not enough to pull him over, there was definitely no contact other than this. Really soft penalty decision.
I noticed Grant gave the ref a few words at the end, he didn’t look very happy.
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I hate drop balls anyway, but hate them even more when they are given the wrong way :headbang:
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The referee was a perfect example of a’homer’.
He couldn’t wait to give Huddersfield that penalty. He actually said it was a trip! What a moron!
He gave them the drop ball, which was ours, by the letter of the law, but he had his own version!
you better go and have a look at s upto date letter of the law book then
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I said last night, if you're giving fouls for the tiny tug on their lad's shirt, you're going to have the ref stopping play every 10 seconds.
Utterly ridiculous to give a penalty for that when the zeitgeist is to ignore players ripping shirts off backs outside the box and at every single corner
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It was more than a tug on his shirt. He had hold of it round his neck and didn't let go, so that's the cue for the attacker to go down. Whether he went down too easily matters not. As others have said, I'd it happened in the other box and Moly went down, we'd ve congratulating the ref...and Moly. We can't say it wasn't a penalty.
As for the refs touch, he doesn't have to stop the game. In that instance, he didn't prevent us from retaining possession as the ball was going to them so play on would have been the right call. There was another instance recently where the ref did play on and a goal was scored. The manager of the defending team berated the ref saying he should have stopped the game but, after he had the rule read to him he said "I didn't know that"
It's only when the refs touch turns over possession when he has to stop the game.
As said above though, we had chance to reset, so the goal wasn't a direct result of the dropped ball.
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However, the ref got the call wrong. We had the last touch, and it was very close to him, so by the letter of the law, the ball should have been dropped to us. Therefore, it couldn’t have led to their first goal. That is indisputable, unless of course, we’re going to start making up new rules to suit arguments.
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Part of rule 9:
The Dropped Ball Procedure
When a dropped ball is necessary, the referee will stop play and drop the ball at the point where it touched the match official. The team that last touched the ball before it hit the referee will be awarded possession. It's important to note that the dropped ball is not a contested drop, meaning that only one player from the team awarded possession can participate in the restart.
Nixon touched the ball last
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Part of rule 9:
The Dropped Ball Procedure
When a dropped ball is necessary, the referee will stop play and drop the ball at the point where it touched the match official. The team that last touched the ball before it hit the referee will be awarded possession. It's important to note that the dropped ball is not a contested drop, meaning that only one player from the team awarded possession can participate in the restart.
Nixon touched the ball last
Sorry, Alan, but the law has changed this season, as alluded to in Little Wolf's post. If the referee deems that one particular side is about to gain possession, then he can award the ball to them.
It looks like he called it right.
Let's be honest, we didn't lose because of the ref last night. We lost because we can't score goals.
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What was the difference between the shirt pull for the pen and the three shirt pulls on our players in the first half which the ref didn’t give.
All three of those stopped our players in their tracks while we were attacking.
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Can we put this to bed now regarding the laws read the latest law change regarding the drop ball as it now goes to the team who is going to get it rather than the last touch unless it gets stopped while in penalty area then the keeper gets it regardless
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What was the difference between the shirt pull for the pen and the three shirt pulls on our players in the first half which the ref didn’t give.
All three of those stopped our players in their tracks while we were attacking.
There is no difference, Hound. They're all fouls, that's the inconsistency I spoke about.
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What was the difference between the shirt pull for the pen and the three shirt pulls on our players in the first half which the ref didn’t give.
All three of those stopped our players in their tracks while we were attacking.
The man in possession was running towards the ref (and diagonally away from the goal). He had a perfect view and it was a very ill-judged challenge which also involved an arm across the attacker’s chest; if you play it back at half speed it is undeniably a deliberate attempt to pull the player down.
It has to be accepted that referees will punish fouls which they see in the box. You cannot reasonably argue that what might look like a minor offence ought to be ignored. Defenders should learn from such experiences especially when they are in full view of the referee in the penalty area. It was ill-judged and we should be blaming O’Riordan.
If it hadn’t have been given, the Assessor would be marking the ref down very severely.
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I sincerely wish that ref assessors reports could be viewed by supporters because I often wonder how some refs keep on getting games to officiate.
You have quoted my post but not answered the question I asked in it.
I also don’t know why you would think that O’Riorden would deliberately try to pull their player down, knowing full well that it would result in a penalty being awarded.
There was contact between the two players, agreed.
But it is what happens in every game and very rarely are pens awarded in situations like the one the other night.
It is a chance defenders take and more often than not they get away with it.
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The pen is a tuff one yes he did have hold of him but it’s the way he goes down from the contact,all defenders would have contact like that when running close and if he doesn’t Connor would then be blame for letting him get by to easy it’s a Catch 22 in that situation,and yes most times would be a foul anywhere else on the field but the ref Tuesday did let alot of it go,as for what goes on at corners you can’t give a foul before the ball is played but the ref only can see so much at corners when the ball comes in and hasn’t got as much viewing area as fans in the stands but I’m sure now I read sumwhere it only if the ball is going towards the player being fouled ie push/pulled/held when the ref will give a pen.
Not just us though with pens as league 2 still as bad going by chesterfiekds game at gillingham Tuesday and Fleetwood v Bromley last sat
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That push on Billy when he retaliated and got booked, is only legal in Rugby.
Nothing said by the ref
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I sincerely wish that ref assessors reports could be viewed by supporters because I often wonder how some refs keep on getting games to officiate.
You have quoted my post but not answered the question I asked in it.
I also don’t know why you would think that O’Riorden would deliberately try to pull their player down, knowing full well that it would result in a penalty being awarded.
There was contact between the two players, agreed.
But it is what happens in every game and very rarely are pens awarded in situations like the one the other night.
It is a chance defenders take and more often than not they get away with it.
I can't defend inconsistency and won't try. The way he falls does look contrived, but it was surprising that he managed to remain upright under the initial contact. At worse you could say it balanced out the Exeter penalty decision.
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No it doesn’t. That was a clear handball as has been discussed before.