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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: TonySoprano on August 21, 2025, 10:16:48 am
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It's always irked me that crewe have this nickname and not us.
Surely we're even more qualified than crewe for this.
Albert Jenkins must be turning in his grave.
Always irked me that we dont have an official nickname at all.
Wonder if we could have a vote and petition the club to recognise our chosen nickname.
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Why shouldn’t Crewe have that name.?
There’s no reason why clubs can’t have the same nickname, take The Hatters, for example.
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It's always irked me that crewe have this nickname and not us.
Surely we're even more qualified than crewe for this.
Albert Jenkins must be turning in his grave.
Always irked me that we dont have an official nickname at all.
Wonder if we could have a vote and petition the club to recognise our chosen nickname.
We do have a nickname "pub team having a laugh"
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It's always irked me that crewe have this nickname and not us.
Surely we're even more qualified than crewe for this.
Albert Jenkins must be turning in his grave.
Always irked me that we dont have an official nickname at all.
Wonder if we could have a vote and petition the club to recognise our chosen nickname.
The Butterscotchmen was a nick name we had
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It's always irked me that crewe have this nickname and not us.
Surely we're even more qualified than crewe for this.
Albert Jenkins must be turning in his grave.
Always irked me that we dont have an official nickname at all.
Wonder if we could have a vote and petition the club to recognise our chosen nickname.
The Butterscotchmen was a nick name we had
I'm not sure that's the case, not officially anyway
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Why shouldn’t Crewe have that name.?
There’s no reason why clubs can’t have the same nickname, take The Hatters, for example.
I didn't say crewe shouldn't have it
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You said we were more qualified. Crewe is/was a huge railway works too, so if anything, equally qualified..
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The Flying Scotsmen?
We built it and don't we still have a covenant for being Scottish! :)
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The River Don seemed to have played a big part in Doncaster’s early beginnings and placement of the town…..so how about ‘The Rivermen’
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Being a railwayman myself, I strongly feel the club don't plug this enough and celebrate our railway heritage and the links between the plant works and the club. As pointed out by the original poster. I think some of the boxes at the eco power should be named after some of the famous loco's built in Doncaster.
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The River Don seemed to have played a big part in Doncaster’s early beginnings and placement of the town…..so how about ‘The Rivermen’
We can walk on to a bit of Nick Drake then which would be nice!
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You said we were more qualified. Crewe is/was a huge railway works too, so if anything, equally qualified..
Qualified yes, equally? No.
Given how well literally were created by "railwaymen" plus flying Scotsman, mallard etc.
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It's always irked me that crewe have this nickname and not us.
Surely we're even more qualified than crewe for this.
Albert Jenkins must be turning in his grave.
Always irked me that we dont have an official nickname at all.
Wonder if we could have a vote and petition the club to recognise our chosen nickname.
I remember some calling us the pirates in the late 50s. The Green Un used to have a logo for each team with their match reports. Crooked spire for Chesterfield, windmill for Rotherham etc. ours was a player with a pirates hat on.
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It's always irked me that crewe have this nickname and not us.
Surely we're even more qualified than crewe for this.
Albert Jenkins must be turning in his grave.
Always irked me that we dont have an official nickname at all.
Wonder if we could have a vote and petition the club to recognise our chosen nickname.
I remember some calling us the pirates in the late 50s. The Green Un used to have a logo for each team with their match reports. Crooked spire for Chesterfield, windmill for Rotherham etc. ours was a player with a pirates hat on.
Dave, I was just going to post that I had a distant memory of us being known as The Pirates but I thought I might have been dreaming!
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You said we were more qualified. Crewe is/was a huge railway works too, so if anything, equally qualified..
Qualified yes, equally? No.
Given how well literally were created by "railwaymen" plus flying Scotsman, mallard etc.
Crewe works was built in 1840 and started loco production in 1843.
Doncaster works was built in 1853, focusing on repairs and maintenance. It commenced loco production in 1867
Crewe Alex was founded in 1877. Doncaster Rovers founded in 1879
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You said we were more qualified. Crewe is/was a huge railway works too, so if anything, equally qualified..
Qualified yes, equally? No.
Given how well literally were created by "railwaymen" plus flying Scotsman, mallard etc.
Crewe works was built in 1840 and started loco production in 1843.
Doncaster works was built in 1853, focusing on repairs and maintenance. It commenced loco production in 1867
Crewe Alex was founded in 1877. Doncaster Rovers founded in 1879
And ?
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It's always irked me that crewe have this nickname and not us.
Surely we're even more qualified than crewe for this.
Albert Jenkins must be turning in his grave.
Always irked me that we dont have an official nickname at all.
Wonder if we could have a vote and petition the club to recognise our chosen nickname.
Can you have an “official” nickname? Sounds a contradiction to me.
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It's always irked me that crewe have this nickname and not us.
Surely we're even more qualified than crewe for this.
Albert Jenkins must be turning in his grave.
Always irked me that we dont have an official nickname at all.
Wonder if we could have a vote and petition the club to recognise our chosen nickname.
I remember some calling us the pirates in the late 50s. The Green Un used to have a logo for each team with their match reports. Crooked spire for Chesterfield, windmill for Rotherham etc. ours was a player with a pirates hat on.
Dave, I was just going to post that I had a distant memory of us being known as The Pirates but I thought I might have been dreaming.
Neil, I think that when Norman Curtis was our manager for a season the Green Un pirate even looked like him.
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I thought we were The Vikings?
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It's always irked me that crewe have this nickname and not us.
Surely we're even more qualified than crewe for this.
Albert Jenkins must be turning in his grave.
Always irked me that we dont have an official nickname at all.
Wonder if we could have a vote and petition the club to recognise our chosen nickname.
Can you have an “official” nickname? Sounds a contradiction to me.
Yes, and it's not . We're one of the few without one.
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You said we were more qualified. Crewe is/was a huge railway works too, so if anything, equally qualified..
Qualified yes, equally? No.
Given how well literally were created by "railwaymen" plus flying Scotsman, mallard etc.
You better look up the famous locos built by Crewe Tony. And don't forget both Swindon and Crewe were bigger than the Plant. Tbh, Swindon Town probably has most right to the 'Railwaymen' nickname.
BobG
PS. Look up the definition of 'nickname' too while you're at it.
Actually, I'll save you the trouble seeing as you never seem able to get anything right:
"Nickname, or informally a "moniker", is an informal substitute for the proper name of a person, place, or thing. It is distinct from a pseudonym, pen name, stage name, or title, although the concepts can overlap".
So, you can't have an official or formal nickname.
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The Flying Scotsmen?
We built it and don't we still have a covenant for being Scottish! :)
.... and almost a Saltire for our first kit
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You said we were more qualified. Crewe is/was a huge railway works too, so if anything, equally qualified..
Qualified yes, equally? No.
Given how well literally were created by "railwaymen" plus flying Scotsman, mallard etc.
Crewe works was built in 1840 and started loco production in 1843.
Doncaster works was built in 1853, focusing on repairs and maintenance. It commenced loco production in 1867
Crewe Alex was founded in 1877. Doncaster Rovers founded in 1879
And ?
I think the Post is pointing out they were first to every criteria mentioned and so perhaps deserve(d) to br first to The Railway men
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QED..!
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The Flying Scotsman is the express
service between London & Edinburgh.
Flying Scotsman is the locomotive, along with other Engines which pulled the train on The Flying Scotsmans service.
As said above, in the days when nicknames were used more often, particularly when the industries the towns were synonymous with, were thriving, we were referred to as the Butterscotchmen. This seems to have died along with the decline of Parkinsons.
Many nicknames have historical value so we can't just pick a random name and hope it sticks. Even when the Viking Badge emerged, we're never really tried to promote the nickname 'The Vikings' on scarves, Flags, mugs etc (apart from the badge of course), even when having the Vikettes dance troupe and the VSC. Our mascot is a dog, not a Viking so our identity to the outside world is fuzzy to say the least.
Likely, the Butterscotchmen will be seen as no longer contemporary, so if anything, the Vikings is the only one we could really promote and get behind. First steps could be updating the Wikipedia page and official website.
I think it's a good idea Tony. I look forward to seeing your campaign to get a nickname adopted.
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According to an edition of the Topical Times Football annual that I had in around 1977 our nickname is/was The Vikings?
There was also a chant from around the same period that went “The Vikings, The Vikings de de de de de de WAR!!”
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You said we were more qualified. Crewe is/was a huge railway works too, so if anything, equally qualified..
Qualified yes, equally? No.
Given how well literally were created by "railwaymen" plus flying Scotsman, mallard etc.
You better look up the famous locos built by Crewe Tony. And don't forget both Swindon and Crewe were bigger than the Plant. Tbh, Swindon Town probably has most right to the 'Railwaymen' nickname.
BobG
PS. Look up the definition of 'nickname' too while you're at it.
Actually, I'll save you the trouble seeing as you never seem able to get anything right:
"Nickname, or informally a "moniker", is an informal substitute for the proper name of a person, place, or thing. It is distinct from a pseudonym, pen name, stage name, or title, although the concepts can overlap".
So, you can't have an official or formal nickname.
I wondered if my memory was playing tricks with me, but Victoria Beckam thought differently back in 2002 (more likely Cowell)
Posh v Posh in nickname war | Football | The Guardian https://share.google/1TBt9nOTWFScCvRp7
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You said we were more qualified. Crewe is/was a huge railway works too, so if anything, equally qualified..
Qualified yes, equally? No.
Given how well literally were created by "railwaymen" plus flying Scotsman, mallard etc.
You better look up the famous locos built by Crewe Tony. And don't forget both Swindon and Crewe were bigger than the Plant. Tbh, Swindon Town probably has most right to the 'Railwaymen' nickname.
BobG
PS. Look up the definition of 'nickname' too while you're at it.
Actually, I'll save you the trouble seeing as you never seem able to get anything right:
"Nickname, or informally a "moniker", is an informal substitute for the proper name of a person, place, or thing. It is distinct from a pseudonym, pen name, stage name, or title, although the concepts can overlap".
So, you can't have an official or formal nickname.
You really are a pedantic old fart aren't you :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:.
More famous than the flying Scotsman or mallard ? No didn't think so.
We're they literally started by railway workers? No they weren't.
As far as official nicknames, of course clubs can have them.
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Should be Biscuit Billy's.
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Reading are the Biscuitmen.
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I mean ultimately what identity does Donny have?
Hore racing - The Stallions?
Railworks - The Railwaymen?
Our badge - The Vikings? Granted we probably are overlooking Danum and our Roman connection
Butterscotchmen was cool though with them no longer here, what other big employers would we want to associate ourselves with as I'm not sure the Logisticmen quite has the same effect
I mean we're famous for Paddington Bear toys and the inventor of the toilet (though I'm not sure we'd want that nickname again - see 2022-23)
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We were also famous for being the AIDS capital of Europe in the 2000s
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We could make Soprano our mascot and call ourselves 'The Mardyarses'.
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Question .......... Why didnt they call the main road outside the stadium New Belle Vue? always wondered
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Poor old Tony. So bereft of argument that all he can do is resort to personal abuse.
One of life's failures.
Do try to improve yourself Tony. If you haven't spotted it yet there's loads on here who believe youre
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Back on the topic then instead of people attacking other posters, how about maybe the Colliers.
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The Rovers will do.
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Reading are the Biscuitmen.
What they get up to in the changing room after a match is their business :chair: :chair:
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We were Aldo know as the butterscotch men historically but that name has vanished today. Probably due to nuttalls mintoes but I stand to be corrected.
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You said we were more qualified. Crewe is/was a huge railway works too, so if anything, equally qualified..
Qualified yes, equally? No.
Given how well literally were created by "railwaymen" plus flying Scotsman, mallard etc.
You better look up the famous locos built by Crewe Tony. And don't forget both Swindon and Crewe were bigger than the Plant. Tbh, Swindon Town probably has most right to the 'Railwaymen' nickname.
BobG
PS. Look up the definition of 'nickname' too while you're at it.
Actually, I'll save you the trouble seeing as you never seem able to get anything right:
"Nickname, or informally a "moniker", is an informal substitute for the proper name of a person, place, or thing. It is distinct from a pseudonym, pen name, stage name, or title, although the concepts can overlap".
So, you can't have an official or formal nickname.
You really are a pedantic old fart aren't you :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:.
More famous than the flying Scotsman or mallard ? No didn't think so.
We're they literally started by railway workers? No they weren't.
As far as official nicknames, of course clubs can have them.
Actually,they was started by Crewe Alexandra Cricket club an offshoot of workers at Crewe Locomotive works
"Crewe Alexandra cricket club (established in September 1866 by employees of Crewe locomotive works)"
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We were also famous for being the AIDS capital of Europe in the 2000s
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Funny,but unfortunately true,Late 90s/early 00s
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Reading used to be the biscuitmen, like our butterscotch name, but have now been the Royals for years.
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We were Aldo know as the butterscotch men historically but that name has vanished today. Probably due to nuttalls mintoes but I stand to be corrected.
You're half right, BR. Nuttall's Mintoes and Parkinson's Butterscotch were both made in Donny.
My mother worked at both.
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Question .......... Why didnt they call the main road outside the stadium New Belle Vue? always wondered
Possibly to humour the council etc as it was funded on the premise of it being a community stadium,Not just for Rovers,same reason the four corners of the stadium is multi colours not Rovers club colours of Red and White and why the seats have the Doncaster logo,and don't have any Rovers pattern/badges/logo's in the seating,we was fortunate to get all red seats as originally they wanted it to be multi coloured seats to match the colours used on exterior corner sheeting,It was only after extreme protesting and pressure and persuassion,possibly by Andy Liney but I may be mistaken that they finally agreed to Red seats.New Belle Vue may have been seen as too Roversesque for a community project.
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We were Aldo know as the butterscotch men historically but that name has vanished today. Probably due to nuttalls mintoes but I stand to be corrected.
You're half right, BR. Nuttall's Mintoes and Parkinson's Butterscotch were both made in Donny.
My mother worked at both.
A Sweet lady your mother Steve :)
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You said we were more qualified. Crewe is/was a huge railway works too, so if anything, equally qualified..
Qualified yes, equally? No.
Given how well literally were created by "railwaymen" plus flying Scotsman, mallard etc.
You better look up the famous locos built by Crewe Tony. And don't forget both Swindon and Crewe were bigger than the Plant. Tbh, Swindon Town probably has most right to the 'Railwaymen' nickname.
BobG
PS. Look up the definition of 'nickname' too while you're at it.
Actually, I'll save you the trouble seeing as you never seem able to get anything right:
"Nickname, or informally a "moniker", is an informal substitute for the proper name of a person, place, or thing. It is distinct from a pseudonym, pen name, stage name, or title, although the concepts can overlap".
So, you can't have an official or formal nickname.
What about the definition of official? That means something that’s recognised or agreed to by someone in a position of authority; given football club nicknames are widely used for branding, merchandise, mascots etc directly by the clubs they’re associated with there’s an argument that that makes them official. Arsenal are the Gunners, Man Utd the Red Devils etc with firm endorsements from the clubs themselves.
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I mean ultimately what identity does Donny have?
Hore racing - The Stallions?
Railworks - The Railwaymen?
Our badge - The Vikings? Granted we probably are overlooking Danum and our Roman connection
Butterscotchmen was cool though with them no longer here, what other big employers would we want to associate ourselves with as I'm not sure the Logisticmen quite has the same effect
I mean we're famous for Paddington Bear toys and the inventor of the toilet (though I'm not sure we'd want that nickname again - see 2022-23)
The Speedway Team based on York Road WAS nicknamed The Stallions and before or after that became Doncaster Dragons
I posted this year's ago how in an attempt to hype up the Crowd the PA bloke would do a massive ( by himself ) chant
Gimme as S Gimme a T and so.on.till .
And what have you got Stallions wa word which he made about 15 seconds long , and that's about as long as the crowd groaned or laughed
Stallions out for me lol
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Back on the topic then instead of people attacking other posters, how about maybe the Colliers.
Barnsley used it first.
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The pirate logo features on an item from 1969 in our museum collection. It was posted a while back so scroll down a bit:
https://www.instagram.com/doncasterroversvirtualmuseum/
Here’s the caption:
[‘Jolly Rover’ pirate mascot from the centre of a rosette 1969 made into a badge by a fan. It used to be part of a rosette which eventually fell apart. The Jolly Rover was a short-lived mascot aimed at children which appeared in the 1969-70 season. It was launched for the visit of American team Dallas Tornados (aka Dallas Tornado NASL team 1967-81) for a friendly at Belle Vue in October 1969. The Jolly Rover was part of the welcome for the Tornados.]
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Poor old Tony. So bereft of argument that all he can do is resort to personal abuse.
One of life's failures.
Do try to improve yourself Tony. If you haven't spotted it yet there's loads on here who believe youre
Bless you, did you fall asleep half way writing that post.
When you wake up, maybe you can try again, if you can remember what we were talking about old lad :laugh:.
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We could make Soprano our mascot and call ourselves 'The Mardyarses'.
Well Mr wiggerly, you certainly have described some of the old guard of rovers fans quite well.
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The pirate logo features on an item from 1969 in our museum collection. It was posted a while back so scroll down a bit:
https://www.instagram.com/doncasterroversvirtualmuseum/
Here’s the caption:
[‘Jolly Rover’ pirate mascot from the centre of a rosette 1969 made into a badge by a fan. It used to be part of a rosette which eventually fell apart. The Jolly Rover was a short-lived mascot aimed at children which appeared in the 1969-70 season. It was launched for the visit of American team Dallas Tornados (aka Dallas Tornado NASL team 1967-81) for a friendly at Belle Vue in October 1969. The Jolly Rover was part of the welcome for the Tornados.]
I was at BV for that Dallas match.
IIRC we won 1-0.
I’m not doubting what you say about the Jolly Rover thing (which is very interesting by the way) but I can’t recall any of that.
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We were also famous for being the AIDS capital of Europe in the 2000s
“The Shaggers”.
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We were Aldo know as the butterscotch men historically but that name has vanished today. Probably due to nuttalls mintoes but I stand to be corrected.
You're half right, BR. Nuttall's Mintoes and Parkinson's Butterscotch were both made in Donny.
My mother worked at both.
A Sweet lady your mother Steve :)
And Radiance toffees. Parkinson’s were on just off Wheatley Lane too and Nuttalls Mintoes were just off Holmes Market at the end of Athron Street. At my nearby Beckett Road infants and junior schools we breathed a delightful mixture of gas works, Nuttals Mintoes and what drifted up for the other end of Wheatley Lane from what became British Nylon Spinners and then ICI, occasionally mixed with De Mulders glue factory emissions. What an atmosphere! The only saving grace were the trolley buses.
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The pirate logo features on an item from 1969 in our museum collection. It was posted a while back so scroll down a bit:
https://www.instagram.com/doncasterroversvirtualmuseum/
Here’s the caption:
[‘Jolly Rover’ pirate mascot from the centre of a rosette 1969 made into a badge by a fan. It used to be part of a rosette which eventually fell apart. The Jolly Rover was a short-lived mascot aimed at children which appeared in the 1969-70 season. It was launched for the visit of American team Dallas Tornados (aka Dallas Tornado NASL team 1967-81) for a friendly at Belle Vue in October 1969. The Jolly Rover was part of the welcome for the Tornados.]
I was at BV for that Dallas match.
IIRC we won 1-0.
I’m not doubting what you say about the Jolly Rover thing (which is very interesting by the way) but I can’t recall any of that.
The caption quotes John Coyle so that’ll do for me in terms of ‘best evidence’. It didn’t catch on obviously, so maybe not a very visible marketing campaign to most at the time.
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The pirate logo features on an item from 1969 in our museum collection. It was posted a while back so scroll down a bit:
https://www.instagram.com/doncasterroversvirtualmuseum/
Here’s the caption:
[‘Jolly Rover’ pirate mascot from the centre of a rosette 1969 made into a badge by a fan. It used to be part of a rosette which eventually fell apart. The Jolly Rover was a short-lived mascot aimed at children which appeared in the 1969-70 season. It was launched for the visit of American team Dallas Tornados (aka Dallas Tornado NASL team 1967-81) for a friendly at Belle Vue in October 1969. The Jolly Rover was part of the welcome for the Tornados.]
I was at BV for that Dallas match.
IIRC we won 1-0.
I’m not doubting what you say about the Jolly Rover thing (which is very interesting by the way) but I can’t recall any of that.
The Jolly Rover has been discussed a couple of times previously that I remember, 2014 in a thread about Hull City Tigers and then another a couple of years previous to that when somebody tried to get the idea of Rovers themed headgear off the ground, I suggested the red and white spotted Jolly Rover bandana but in the end no consensus was found and the whole thread came to nothing.
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Come to think of it, fairly recently, maybe 10 years ago we had two Mascots. Donny Dog and wasn't it Paul Mayfield in the Viking Outfit? I'm probs wrong but did fans refer to him as Eric?
I'm sure Paul could clarify this.
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Question .......... Why didnt they call the main road outside the stadium New Belle Vue? always wondered
Possibly to humour the council etc as it was funded on the premise of it being a community stadium,Not just for Rovers,same reason the four corners of the stadium is multi colours not Rovers club colours of Red and White and why the seats have the Doncaster logo,and don't have any Rovers pattern/badges/logo's in the seating,we was fortunate to get all red seats as originally they wanted it to be multi coloured seats to match the colours used on exterior corner sheeting,It was only after extreme protesting and pressure and persuassion,possibly by Andy Liney but I may be mistaken that they finally agreed to Red seats.New Belle Vue may have been seen as too Roversesque for a community project.
Thinking back the original idea for the stadium seats was for them to be that awful vague purple colour that you see on the welcome to Donny signs, faded it looks awful. Thanks to Mr Liney who managed to get this changed to the red seats.
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Question .......... Why didnt they call the main road outside the stadium New Belle Vue? always wondered
Possibly to humour the council etc as it was funded on the premise of it being a community stadium,Not just for Rovers,same reason the four corners of the stadium is multi colours not Rovers club colours of Red and White and why the seats have the Doncaster logo,and don't have any Rovers pattern/badges/logo's in the seating,we was fortunate to get all red seats as originally they wanted it to be multi coloured seats to match the colours used on exterior corner sheeting,It was only after extreme protesting and pressure and persuassion,possibly by Andy Liney but I may be mistaken that they finally agreed to Red seats.New Belle Vue may have been seen as too Roversesque for a community project.
Thinking back the original idea for the stadium seats was for them to be that awful vague purple colour that you see on the welcome to Donny signs, faded it looks awful. Thanks to Mr Liney who managed to get this changed to the red seats.
That's right. I was good friends with the stadiums lead development officer for the council and he kept me informed of all the developments including when the seats and overall appearance was being discussed at regular joint meetings, which Andy used to attend.
When he told me about the purple seats, I said oh no, when they fade in the sunlight, they're going to turn pink and we'll be a laughing stock. Anyway, he told me the final decision had been made but wouldn't tell me which way they'd gone. I had to wait until the first seats went in on my daily visits to a great sigh of relief they were red!!!!
You may recall, the decor in the bar and reception areas, furniture and carpets were in the original scheme of purple when it first opened. I think what's left of the original stools in the bar are still purple.
We dodged a bullet there and I like to think I played my part in bending ears too.
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We were also famous for being the AIDS capital of Europe in the 2000s
I was on a lads holiday abroad the day when that was all over the tabloid front pages. I had to pretend I was from Rotherham for the fortnight ffs !
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Come to think of it, fairly recently, maybe 10 years ago we had two Mascots. Donny Dog and wasn't it Paul Mayfield in the Viking Outfit? I'm probs wrong but did fans refer to him as Eric?
I'm sure Paul could clarify this.
I have a photo of him with a couple of friends when Paul was Eric the Viking
Taken October 2019
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We could make Soprano our mascot and call ourselves 'The Mardyarses'.
Well Mr wiggerly, you certainly have described some of the old guard of rovers fans quite well.
No Mr Castrato, I certainly have described you perfectly.
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Back in 1979/80 we were thinking of going into the pub trade. I was part-time bar cellarman to learn the ropes in the then busiest pub in Bradford. I had a sticker in the back window with Jolly Rover on and the words “Don’follow me follow the Rovers”.
I came out after work one night to find a boot print on the car door so I took it down after that. It was a frustrating thought that I could well have served the toe rag that did it. :scarf:
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Yes , I remember that Idler. Don't follow me , Follow the Rovers car stickers etc
Unfortunately something similar these days in a car would probably provoke certain people still