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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: TonySoprano on August 23, 2025, 07:00:38 pm
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Surely starts on Tuesday.
Can't keep playing billy this much, or has mcann made up his mind on him?
Has looked way off it so far
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Grant should play had many players who have not had games on Tuesday.
Hanlan must be given his chance along with Ajayi and Gibson
In midfield a choice of Close Crew Westbrook Clifton( unless Gotts won’t be ready for Saturday)
Sbarra
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Need to just play the second 11 on Tuesday it should be enough to get through
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If he made 11 changes v boroi reckon he will again this round
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Just seen the video of the lads over to the fans at full time.
I don’t mean to speculate and be mischievous, but Hanlon looks thoroughly pissed off.
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Just seen the video of the lads over to the fans at full time.
I don’t mean to speculate and be mischievous, but Hanlon looks thoroughly pissed off.
Good. Maybe he needs to channel that on Tuesday.
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Not as pissed off as Ironside must be,can't get near the squad for whatever reason.Wouldnt shock me if he's gone before the window which is a shame as he still has something to offer for me
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We have an absolutely colossal squad. If Terry is happy to keep funding this and if senior players are ok with not even making a league squad for weeks on end, then fine. I am not sure both will endure though. There are likely 2 and maybe even 3 players who could leave this window, especially if we end up bringing in the striker.
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We should clear out a few who aren’t making the match day imo. Even the likes of Grehan who has a future here should be away on loan if he’s not playing games here.
And if I’m TB I’m not going to be overly happy we sign a number 9 and then decide he’s not fancied after 2 games. If it were my money I’d be having a word. Same with Hurst, Close and Westbrooke who all got new deals and were quickly binned.
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We should clear out a few who aren’t making the match day imo. Even the likes of Grehan who has a future here should be away on loan if he’s not playing games here.
And if I’m TB I’m not going to be overly happy we sign a number 9 and then decide he’s not fancied after 2 games. If it were my money I’d be having a word. Same with Hurst, Close and Westbrooke who all got new deals and were quickly binned.
Why would you be having a word?
Geant was given a budget with the intention of being promoted. We went up as Champions so Grant has delivered.
Not to mention a couple of half decent cup runs to boost the coffers.
Mr Bramall seems happy enough considering Grant was given an improved contract and a bigger budget this season and also supporting the footballing staff numbers and training ground upgrades.
It'd inevitable players will move on when the new number 9 comes in, you can't have 4 players for 1 position.
Not sure why some folk are getting their knickers in a twist.
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Who actually signed him? If it was Grant, then who or what did he think he was getting?
I thought the object was to not bother if a new player was not going to improve us? There’s been precious little evidence that he’s got enough in his locker to make an impression. It could be, of course, that he’s finding our system not to his liking?
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Who actually signed him? If it was Grant, then who or what did he think he was getting?
I thought the object was to not bother if a new player was not going to improve us? There’s been precious little evidence that he’s got enough in his locker to make an impression. It could be, of course, that he’s finding our system not to his liking?
He will be something he thinks he can work with, its only a few weeks, you can't say it hasn't worked yet. Many of the players we get are before they arrive a little bit poo, yet GM turns them to gold. It just takes a little time, yet also some may not work. Give the lad and the coaching team time with him first.
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We should clear out a few who aren’t making the match day imo. Even the likes of Grehan who has a future here should be away on loan if he’s not playing games here.
And if I’m TB I’m not going to be overly happy we sign a number 9 and then decide he’s not fancied after 2 games. If it were my money I’d be having a word. Same with Hurst, Close and Westbrooke who all got new deals and were quickly binned.
close was outstanding at Middlesbrough and unlucky not to on the subs bench ,but the squad is so strong somebody has to miss out
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Dear me, Sharp is playing well so is keeping his place. That’s how it should be.
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Not as pissed off as Ironside must be,can't get near the squad for whatever reason.Wouldnt shock me if he's gone before the window which is a shame as he still has something to offer for me
Ironside was incredibly poor last season so why would he be given a chance this season. Genuinely surprised be he is still with us tbh.
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Not as pissed off as Ironside must be,can't get near the squad for whatever reason.Wouldnt shock me if he's gone before the window which is a shame as he still has something to offer for me
Ironside was incredibly poor last season so why would he be given a chance this season. Genuinely surprised be he is still with us tbh.
Ironside was definitely not incredibly poor last season, and he will still have a lot to offer in this league when he gets his chance.
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Another good game for Close might see someone come in for him after Tuesday. Clearly there's no plans to use him in the league so why waste a wage on him.
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Saw a rumour linking Ironside with a move back to Cambridge.
Our fans are not very patient are they, we are 5 games in and Hanlon is written off. As Dickos says it’s Billy’s shirt through merit
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It seems like a lot of our fans have joined the "I want it NOW" society that we have become. Is patience still listed in the OED?
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Not as pissed off as Ironside must be,can't get near the squad for whatever reason.Wouldnt shock me if he's gone before the window which is a shame as he still has something to offer for me
Ironside was incredibly poor last season so why would he be given a chance this season. Genuinely surprised be he is still with us tbh.
Ironside was definitely not incredibly poor last season, and he will still have a lot to offer in this league when he gets his chance.
Game of opinions but statistically he was very poor even more so in a side that won the league. He averaged less than 1 shot a game. Less than 60% pass accuracy. Goals per 90 was at 0.2 compared to 0.44 with bill and 0.71 for street. So on those comparisons he was well off it last season
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Saw a rumour linking Ironside with a move back to Cambridge.
Our fans are not very patient are they, we are 5 games in and Hanlon is written off. As Dickos says it’s Billy’s shirt through merit
It does look like Ironside will have to move out I think, bit of a shame but he's not getting game time is he?
Hanlan needs time to learn how we play and develop a role. He's obviously good ball to feet but needs to work on his movement and positioning. We have to be a team that develops players, we can't afford the finished article. Hopefully he develops onwards.
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Not as pissed off as Ironside must be,can't get near the squad for whatever reason.Wouldnt shock me if he's gone before the window which is a shame as he still has something to offer for me
Ironside was incredibly poor last season so why would he be given a chance this season. Genuinely surprised be he is still with us tbh.
Ironside was definitely not incredibly poor last season, and he will still have a lot to offer in this league when he gets his chance.
Sorry, but he really was. He was exceptionally good the season before but god knows what happened to him last season. I cant see him getting a game in league 1.
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We should clear out a few who aren’t making the match day imo. Even the likes of Grehan who has a future here should be away on loan if he’s not playing games here.
And if I’m TB I’m not going to be overly happy we sign a number 9 and then decide he’s not fancied after 2 games. If it were my money I’d be having a word. Same with Hurst, Close and Westbrooke who all got new deals and were quickly binned.
It would probably be best to arm yourself with info those players could have done a job. Several reasons for contracts.
1. What happens if we miss out on our targets I close season.
2. They may step up.
3. We possibly can get a price for them if contracted.
4. Cover for injuries.
Many mccann has already mentioned.
I dont think he bins them off, there could be settling in time, form of other players, injuries. .. anything.
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Not as pissed off as Ironside must be,can't get near the squad for whatever reason.Wouldnt shock me if he's gone before the window which is a shame as he still has something to offer for me
Ironside was incredibly poor last season so why would he be given a chance this season. Genuinely surprised be he is still with us tbh.
Ironside was definitely not incredibly poor last season, and he will still have a lot to offer in this league when he gets his chance.
Sorry, but he really was. He was exceptionally good the season before but god knows what happened to him last season. I cant see him getting a game in league 1.
Became a father, lack of sleep?
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Another good game for Close might see someone come in for him after Tuesday. Clearly there's no plans to use him in the league so why waste a wage on him.
Hope we don’t, but if we had a couple of long term injuries to midfielders he would be in with a shout.?
We have a big squad for a reason. Some players will miss out on the match day squad but that doesn’t mean it’s a waste of a wage.
If we don’t have a few players champing at the bit to get into the team, the match day squad could get complacent.?
I reckon most of the fringe players (so far) will play on Tuesday and perhaps give the manager a headache again.
As for Hanlan, maybe he will come good maybe he won’t, but it’s hardly a disaster if we occasionally sign someone who doesn’t work out.
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Not as pissed off as Ironside must be,can't get near the squad for whatever reason.Wouldnt shock me if he's gone before the window which is a shame as he still has something to offer for me
Ironside was incredibly poor last season so why would he be given a chance this season. Genuinely surprised be he is still with us tbh.
Ironside was definitely not incredibly poor last season, and he will still have a lot to offer in this league when he gets his chance.
I agree, and just the same story as Alfie.
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We have a bigger squad because the management have deemed the insurance it supplies us is far better than being in the situation like we were a couple of years ago where we had to press juniors into action on a regular basis to produce a matchday team. You would imagine that players coming in have been told the situation that may occur where they may miss out on a regular matchday squad but are still wanted and will defiantly be required at some stages of the season, it worked very well for us last season and allowed us to plough through without the drop off in quality that you would get otherwise.
As for Joe Ironside, some on here seem to have forgotten the quality he had from the season before, we also need to remember that he had injuries to contend with last season, playing with or through injury is never going to make a player look great, i'd say with a clean bill of health he would improve our side or anywhere else he may end up. Hope we keep him if the prospective striker does not arrive.
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Who actually signed him? If it was Grant, then who or what did he think he was getting?
I thought the object was to not bother if a new player was not going to improve us? There’s been precious little evidence that he’s got enough in his locker to make an impression. It could be, of course, that he’s finding our system not to his liking?
I don't understand that first sentence, Alan. Grant signs all our players; who else could it have been?
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Saw a rumour linking Ironside with a move back to Cambridge.
Our fans are not very patient are they, we are 5 games in and Hanlon is written off. As Dickos says it’s Billy’s shirt through merit
It does look like Ironside will have to move out I think, bit of a shame but he's not getting game time is he?
Hanlan needs time to learn how we play and develop a role. He's obviously good ball to feet but needs to work on his movement and positioning. We have to be a team that develops players, we can't afford the finished article. Hopefully he develops onwards.
Thing is there was a reason we signed Hanlon, personally I believe it's far too soon to judge him. But, if it doesn't work out, questions should be asked as to who influenced his signing. After all he has played in an excellent side previously. He will have a part to play I'm sure. It's 5 games in.
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Not sure some folk take a blind bit of notice of what Grant says. How many times?
We need a big squad (& Terry seems ok with this).
We’ve got very decent players not getting game time isn’t that a fantastic position to be in? Why are we wanting rid of some. Surely the Middlesbro game showed what we are about, in regards to depth, challenging for places and players biding their time. Hanlan, Close, Ironside et al, if their characters are right, they will play a part.
We are 5 games in and already some players are looking leggy (quote Grant, quote Big Dave). We are going to need them. Those missing out at the moment should be p*ssed off, that’ll be their motivation.
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I might be totally wrong here but I’m wondering whether Grant is seeing something in Hanlan that he doesn’t like, namely he is not showing enough energy and commitment to run, press, and track back when out of possession.
Billy was amazing at Port Vale, ran his socks off to press PV as if he was a 20-year-old.
We know that Grant sees this as a pre-requisite in his players, as Kyle has found out to his detriment.
You can work with players to improve many aspects of their play, but if they don’t have the heart to put in the hard yards when required, that’s not so easy to change.
As I say, this is pure speculation on my part. Hopefully I’m wrong and Hanlan will come good with a little more time.
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Not a fan of this prerequisite of having to run around to get into the team, all for athleticism but are we saying you can have all the technical ability in the world but because you don’t run a marathon a game you wont play… Got to have a bit of creativity and guile to go with it
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Agreed James.
Matt leTissier, Duncan Mackenzie, Tony Currie, Stan Bowles, Alan Hudson, Martin Peters - they were all rubbish weren't they...?
BobG
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Grant highlighted Hanlan’s pace, pressing and hard work in his interview when he signed him. Said he’s known about him for many years.
https://youtu.be/Qtgr7aeZ1TA?si=MESRPxgn6yBukjju
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Agreed James.
Matt leTissier, Duncan Mackenzie, Tony Currie, Stan Bowles, Alan Hudson, Martin Peters - they were all rubbish weren't they...?
BobG
Apart from Martin Peters, Bob how many won major trophies? They were all great players and entertainers but underachieved on the amount of talent that they had.
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Hudson was part of the Chelsea side that won the ECWC in 1970/71 beating a Real Madrid side captained by Gento in the final.
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Is winning a trophy the only measure of talent these days? Christ Almighty.....
That makes Clifton a world beater then.
BobG
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Agreed James.
Matt leTissier, Duncan Mackenzie, Tony Currie, Stan Bowles, Alan Hudson, Martin Peters - they were all rubbish weren't they...?
BobG
I agree too, and maybe if Grant was managing us in the Premiership or Championship, he’d take a different view.
But perhaps he feels that in the bottom two tiers you can’t afford the luxury of a player who doesn’t work hard.
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Matt Le Tissier would have had a damn sight more than his 8 England caps if he’d been fitter and worked a bit harder.
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Agreed James.
Matt leTissier, Duncan Mackenzie, Tony Currie, Stan Bowles, Alan Hudson, Martin Peters - they were all rubbish weren't they...?
BobG
I agree too, and maybe if Grant was managing us in the Premiership or Championship, he’d take a different view.
But perhaps he feels that in the bottom two tiers you can’t afford the luxury of a player who doesn’t work hard.
Perhaps the question to ask of Le Tissier etc., is how much better would they have been if they had great energy as well as skill? You might use Mo Salah as an example of the combination.
If Hanlan begins to show some flair there might be some compensation in what he contributes, but in a team where a 39-year old will run for 90 minutes I’m not in favour of making exceptions.
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Is winning a trophy the only measure of talent these days? Christ Almighty.....
That makes Clifton a world beater then.
BobG
The question is more that if the players that you mention had had a better work ethic to match their skill, how much more could they have achieved? You can without doubt admire their skills but watching very skillful players stand watching after giving the ball away or ambling back would soon wear thin in a relegation battle.
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Agreed James.
Matt leTissier, Duncan Mackenzie, Tony Currie, Stan Bowles, Alan Hudson, Martin Peters - they were all rubbish weren't they...?
BobG
I agree too, and maybe if Grant was managing us in the Premiership or Championship, he’d take a different view.
But perhaps he feels that in the bottom two tiers you can’t afford the luxury of a player who doesn’t work hard.
Barely any luxury players in the Prem. The work rate only goes up.
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You're missing the point.
Professional football as it's played today requires lots of lung busting effort. Lots and lots and lots of players can give that, can perform to that mantra. But doing that don't mean they have the talent of those players mentioned.
Talent and effort are two entirely different things. And like I said, if winning something is the definite itiom of talent, then the English language has been prostituted.
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BobG
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Is winning a trophy the only measure of talent these days? Christ Almighty.....
That makes Clifton a world beater then.
BobG
How many times have you actually been at a game and seen Clifton on the pitch to make that assessment?
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If I’m reading this thread right, then the super talented players like Le Tissier et al were fabulous and scored some great goals, however the team work ethic was lacking and therefore in his case it’s felt that’s why he didn’t play internationally or perhaps for a really big successful club.
Perhaps that type of player thinks it’s below them to ‘get stuck in’ and help out when it’s backs to the wall.
Then we get to Clifton in Lg1. Works like a maniac however seems to it be the most talented in the team, but his altitude, desire and work rate will get him appearances …At this level.
We see Molyneux who has both, some real talent and will forge back and do some gritty stuff, perfect, he’s going to play at this level every week, and probably higher.
Back to Hanlan, early days, however it seems we aren’t seeing either, a work ethic or some real talent and there in lies the issue. We need to see at least one of these pretty soon.
So many lower level players get in teams through work ethic and then develop their talent through experience.
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He's Joe Dodoo in disguise I'm telling you
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Well Hanlon did very little to boost his case this evening.
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Ironside has looked far more effective and threatening in 15 minutes than Hanlan did in nearly 70.
It will be a travesty if he gets on the bench ahead of Joe on Saturday surely?
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None of the starting four were good enough Ajayi very poor Gibson not good enough and Sbarra runs nothing creative going to Hanlan. Crew was poor and doesn’t deserve a place on the bench in front of Close. Second half better players and We looked better
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Joe Isonside
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None of the starting four were good enough Ajayi very poor Gibson not good enough and Sbarra runs nothing creative going to Hanlan. Crew was poor and doesn’t deserve a place on the bench in front of Close. Second half better players and We looked better
Agree bringing better players on helped us but Gibson was decent. Hanlan's movement looks poor and his closing down almost seems half hearted at times but in fairness didn't have much service. Sbarra's a waste of a shirt.
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I thought Hanlan looked alright tonight. Held the ball up well and battled hard against 2 big lumps. Bit unlucky with his chance when he half fell into it.
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I thought Hanlan looked alright tonight. Held the ball up well and battled hard against 2 big lumps. Bit unlucky with his chance when he half fell into it.
Agreed.
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Think grant will be giving Joe a chance from the bench on Saturday and hanlan will be saved for the Vertu cup next Tuesday
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I’m sorry, but he’s not better than Ironside. A poor signing, for me.
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Watched hanlan and Ironside tonight almost felt a little sorry for both of them neither of them look at this moment like they could play in league games and with bailey being our league top scorer with 3 we definitely need to bring another forward in
Might have been a blessing for us to exit the cup tonight because it could have helped Ironside going on loan
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Hanlan is poor at winning headers for his size. Wasn’t even the out ball when we had to go long.
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His goalscoring record is poor across his career and, so far, I'm yet to see that he offers much else. I hope he comes good, but it looks an odd signing at this stage.
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The best flashes(two)ive seen of him have been out wide running direct at the left back. Where he look ed a handful. Through the middle he looks lost !
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The best flashes(two)ive seen of him have been out wide running direct at the left back. Where he look ed a handful. Through the middle he looks lost !
if GM had kept him on and moved him to wide right, JI up top we may have seen something more from him and most importantly not had to risk Mols, hopefully it just precautionary.
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Early days still, but has had been said he did little to ‘help his cause’ tonight.
Had Joe not have been offside (look across your line Joe!) & his ‘goal’ have stood tonight, it would have done wonders for his confidence & given us a more ‘reliable’ source for a goal scorer come Saturday, coming in off the bench once Billy had run his ‘blood to sweat’ against Rotherham.
It’s a position we are lacking in at this stage of the season.
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Attacking midfield more of an issue? Sbarra really not up to it.
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Unless we try Gibson or Ajayi in attacking midfield and have Hanlan as a back up wide option?
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Not throwing the towel in with him but, I’m failing to see what kind of striker he is. He has pace to play off the shoulder but, seems to want to back into the defender all of the time rather than spin off them. His positioning when the ball went out to Gibson and Ajayi was really poor, he gave them nothing to hit and there was always a defender on him.
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Unless we try Gibson or Ajayi in attacking midfield and have Hanlan as a back up wide option?
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Gibson's got to be worth a shout in the 10 role surely
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Unless we try Gibson or Ajayi in attacking midfield and have Hanlan as a back up wide option?
Sbarra Gibson and Ajayvery poor this evening and none those three have the capabilities to pass the ball consistently
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McCann though is right on one thing, Hanlan needs to learn to play in our team and may take him time. That is fair, some good players have taken time to adjust under managers, some here for example.
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Hanlan has spent a lot of his career playing with - or off - a target man e.g. Vokes, Eaves, Mandron, Akinfenwa.
Reasonable assumption to suggest he'd do better playing alongside Ironside, but that would not suit McCann's preferred formation.
Bit of a mystery why we / he thought this would be a good move.
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Unless we try Gibson or Ajayi in attacking midfield and have Hanlan as a back up wide option?
Sbarra Gibson and Ajayvery poor this evening and none those three have the capabilities to pass the ball consistently
Thought Gibson had a good game tbh
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Unless we try Gibson or Ajayi in attacking midfield and have Hanlan as a back up wide option?
Sbarra Gibson and Ajayvery poor this evening and none those three have the capabilities to pass the ball consistently
Thought Gibson had a good game tbh
He was our best player 1st half , retained possession well and got us up the pitch.
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I thought Hanlan looked alright tonight. Held the ball up well and battled hard against 2 big lumps. Bit unlucky with his chance when he half fell into it.
Agreed.
Think you both were watching a different game to me.
He was weak and truly beaten to almost every ball by L2 defenders, and is way off the ball.
Another shocking performance from him and offered nothing for the team last night.
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Would hanlan play better with ironside next to him? Holding the ball up? I understand because he hasn’t scored yet he’s getting slated, but I can see a willingness from him, he is strong, and occasionally will run back to defend.
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Gibson played well last night.
Hanlan tbf has struggled but seems like people are being a bit harsh on last night. Hardly given much service was he.
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I honestly just can’t see a footballer in him, he was woeful again last night ! How he gets the nod in front of Ironside is beyond me, I know Grant signed him and he must of seen something in him ! Wtf that is or was though I just don’t see ! Maybe he will come good, however I won’t hold my breath with this one, even Fergie at Manure signed the odd dud though didn’t he?
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He needs space to run in to with someone else doing the rest of the work.
He isn’t a focal point.
First touch not the best and is currently on 3/21 headers won in all matches.
That’s what sets someone like Street apart from him who could do all that whilst also being quick and strong. Not many of them about though.
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I just can’t believe Lincoln have a better number 9 than Street. They are in the same division as us aren’t they!
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Unless we try Gibson or Ajayi in attacking midfield and have Hanlan as a back up wide option?
Sbarra Gibson and Ajayvery poor this evening and none those three have the capabilities to pass the ball consistently
Thought Gibson had a good game tbh
He was our best player 1st half , retained possession well and got us up the pitch.
It only he could shoot!
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I just can’t believe Lincoln have a better number 9 than Street. They are in the same division as us aren’t they!
It's about how the manager sets up and obviously Lincoln do it different to us at the moment, its why players fail at clubs and if they shine. We obviously set up perfectly for Streete to excel. Remember we played him in the wing initially too. After they excel its dead easy for fans to say why didn't we do this or why dont we do that but its the managers that have to go through that process to get what they can out of the players, different formations, different players in the team to pick up the rest or be able to give him the ball in those positions.
Turn it around and its like Hanlon at the moment, Mccann is going through that process with him too. Hopefully it works out.
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He takes a bit of stick on here but thought he was outstanding when he came on today.great hold up and link play.
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He takes a bit of stick on here but thought he was outstanding when he came on today.great hold up and link play.
Better than he has been, looked like he wanted it today
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Hanlan justs needs time to settle in.
Even Mols took time to get to his best.
I can remember him getting lots of stick on here and people saying he only had one trick, cut inside and shoot.
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
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He takes a bit of stick on here but thought he was outstanding when he came on today.great hold up and link play.
Agreed, perfect performance by him to see the game out!
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
I thought he made the right call taking it into the corner. Billy got much credit for doing the same recently.
I thought he did OK today when the game needed us to manage it out.
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
Yes. That was a worrying sign.
If he doesn’t have the pace to go through there then he needs to be getting on the end of crosses and he’s not done that either to date
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Matt Le Tissier would have had a damn sight more than his 8 England caps if he’d been fitter and worked a bit harder.
Dowie in a recent interview said the idea that LE Tissier lacked fitness or work rate is nonsense. Playing alongside him he ought to know.
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
I thought he made the right call taking it into the corner. Billy got much credit for doing the same recently.
I thought he did OK today when the game needed us to manage it out.
he didn’t do that on purpose. He was left with no choice as he dithered for so long. A selfish top striker would have only one thing on their mind. Hit the back of the net and put the game to bed.
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I thought he did well when he came on today, looked strong & held it up well. The chance, did he hesitate for just a split second, thinking he was offside? Did well in the end but his instinct should have been to bury it then look at the liner.
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Yes it was the only choice after he fluffed it
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
I thought he made the right call taking it into the corner. Billy got much credit for doing the same recently.
I thought he did OK today when the game needed us to manage it out.
he didn’t do that on purpose. He was left with no choice as he dithered for so long. A selfish top striker would have only one thing on their mind. Hit the back of the net and put the game to bed.
There were plenty of occasions when our players didn't quite get the first touch right. There were other opportunities that went begging to make it two. Bailey, Broadbent, Middleton, Ajayi all had great opportunities so I think you're being overly harsh on him. Of course, we'd love to see him bang it in but at least he took the second best option.
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Difference being, they all got their shots off.
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Hanlan is not perfect, but for me he looked a lot better than he has done. Too early to write him off just yet.
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He’s 28 and averages something like a goal every 6 or 7 games. Never got double figures in a season. If the penny ain’t dropped by now, I find extremely optimistic to think it’s gonna change now. I may sound harsh to some I get it, but I just want the best for my team and I think there are a whole host of players in our squad that deserve better.
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Really? It's a tough job up top in our team. Hard work.
Give him time. He looked better today. Mccann talked about learning more on how we play and he wants to learn. Give him time. Coming on as a bit part isn't going to accelerate it so be patient
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Really? It's a tough job up top in our team. Hard work.
Give him time. He looked better today. Mccann talked about learning more on how we play and he wants to learn. Give him time. Coming on as a bit part isn't going to accelerate it so be patient
be patient for what? I’m definitely not expecting anything.
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He’s 28 and averages something like a goal every 6 or 7 games. Never got double figures in a season. If the penny ain’t dropped by now, I find extremely optimistic to think it’s gonna change now. I may sound harsh to some I get it, but I just want the best for my team and I think there are a whole host of players in our squad that deserve better.
Our putative new striker's stats don't seem to be much different but there must be a reason for signing him and an expectation that he will provide.
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It's about what mccann thinks he can do with them, not what they have done before. If so we would be spending £30m on them
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He’s 28 and averages something like a goal every 6 or 7 games. Never got double figures in a season. If the penny ain’t dropped by now, I find extremely optimistic to think it’s gonna change now. I may sound harsh to some I get it, but I just want the best for my team and I think there are a whole host of players in our squad that deserve better.
Our putative new striker's stats don't seem to be much different but there must be a reason for signing him and an expectation that he will provide.
mmmm…..so it seems.
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
That’s just b*llocks. He made the right decision for the team.
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
That’s just b*llocks. He made the right decision for the team.
in your opinion. The decision was made for him. Billy would’ve buried it. Just like he did against Bradford. Any natural striker would have.
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
That’s just b*llocks. He made the right decision for the team.
It was the only decision though, if he slowed down any more thinking he was offside he would have stopped still.
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
That’s just b*llocks. He made the right decision for the team.
He actually got fouled in the box and if he’d gone down it would been a penalty
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Matt Le Tissier would have had a damn sight more than his 8 England caps if he’d been fitter and worked a bit harder.
Dowie in a recent interview said the idea that LE Tissier lacked fitness or work rate is nonsense. Playing alongside him he ought to know.
Carlton Palmer said he was unfit, had poor work rate and no stamina. Also played alongside him so surely just as valid a view. Probably less likely coloured by a post playing career alongside Le Tissier on Soccer Saturday as well.
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Really? It's a tough job up top in our team. Hard work.
Give him time. He looked better today. Mccann talked about learning more on how we play and he wants to learn. Give him time. Coming on as a bit part isn't going to accelerate it so be patient
be patient for what? I’m definitely not expecting anything.
Meanwhile we’ve bagged 13 points from 6 games.
I think that buys the squad some credit to take a bit of time to improve.?
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
That’s just b*llocks. He made the right decision for the team.
That's just b*llocks, he shit it.
A decent striker such as sharp would have at least had a shot. (Sharp would have buried it)
He was through, 1 on 1. To say he chose the corner flag is ludicrous
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I thought he played well when he came on. Each to their own i suppose
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Matt Le Tissier would have had a damn sight more than his 8 England caps if he’d been fitter and worked a bit harder.
Dowie in a recent interview said the idea that LE Tissier lacked fitness or work rate is nonsense. Playing alongside him he ought to know.
Carlton Palmer said he was unfit, had poor work rate and no stamina. Also played alongside him so surely just as valid a view. Probably less likely coloured by a post playing career alongside Le Tissier on Soccer Saturday as well.
Carlton Palmer , his knowledge of football you could write on a stamp with a marker pen. Average to Good player, crap manager, crap pundit.
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
That’s just b*llocks. He made the right decision for the team.
in your opinion. The decision was made for him. Billy would’ve buried it. Just like he did against Bradford. Any natural striker would have.
Won 6 games out of 8 and clowns like this moaning about irrelevant stuff. Some folk can’t change their stripes however well we’re doing
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Really? It's a tough job up top in our team. Hard work.
Give him time. He looked better today. Mccann talked about learning more on how we play and he wants to learn. Give him time. Coming on as a bit part isn't going to accelerate it so be patient
be patient for what? I’m definitely not expecting anything.
So you have no faith in Grant McCann then. Ok. Fair enough.
BobG
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Iv been disappointed with Hanlan so far but thought he was much better today.
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I thought he did ok, on the time he got through he looked for the offside flag then set off and was fouled which took his touch away from goal, only then did he take it to the corner.
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He did everything he needed to do today, we were under the cosh which subsided once he came on
Thought he was excellent
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Totally agree.
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Nice cameo today, added those runs behind defenders that Sharp was missing as the game went on.
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He was alright when he came on today. Used his body well
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Why not get behind your team and support Hanlan instead of finding a scapegoat? Awful posts on here ! Get a grip, amazing position we’re in all thanks to Mcann and all our players
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
That’s just b*llocks. He made the right decision for the team.
in your opinion. The decision was made for him. Billy would’ve buried it. Just like he did against Bradford. Any natural striker would have.
Won 6 games out of 8 and clowns like this moaning about irrelevant stuff. Some folk can’t change their stripes however well we’re doing
aww bless, you must have conveniently skipped over my post saying how outstanding the vast majority were then.
It’s a forum to express opinions. Rather than bellowing it out from the stands. Don’t reply if you don’t like it. I really get under your skin. Let it go. It’s not healthy.
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Showed some encouraging signs when he came on , hopefully this is the start of some improved performances from him
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I thought he showed some nice touches when he came on he needs a goal to take that pressure off him and build his confidence.
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
That’s just b*llocks. He made the right decision for the team.
in your opinion. The decision was made for him. Billy would’ve buried it. Just like he did against Bradford. Any natural striker would have.
Won 6 games out of 8 and clowns like this moaning about irrelevant stuff. Some folk can’t change their stripes however well we’re doing
aww bless, you must have conveniently skipped over my post saying how outstanding the vast majority were then.
It’s a forum to express opinions. Rather than bellowing it out from the stands. Don’t reply if you don’t like it. I really get under your skin. Let it go. It’s not healthy.
What a daft post, in one sentence you say it’s a forum to state your opinion and in the next sentence you say don’t post if you don’t have a different opinion to mine.
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
That’s just b*llocks. He made the right decision for the team.
in your opinion. The decision was made for him. Billy would’ve buried it. Just like he did against Bradford. Any natural striker would have.
Won 6 games out of 8 and clowns like this moaning about irrelevant stuff. Some folk can’t change their stripes however well we’re doing
aww bless, you must have conveniently skipped over my post saying how outstanding the vast majority were then.
It’s a forum to express opinions. Rather than bellowing it out from the stands. Don’t reply if you don’t like it. I really get under your skin. Let it go. It’s not healthy.
What a daft post, in one sentence you say it’s a forum to state your opinion and in the next sentence you say don’t post if you don’t have a different opinion to mine.
righto flower. Thing is you spend your time trolling people on their opinions. Pointless really. Have a discussion about the team by all means. Thats what the forum is for. But you don’t. You get yourself wound up by folk who dare to have a slightly negative slant by pointing out where we may be able to improve. Even our leader GM said in his latest interview states we can be better!!
So sad. It’s eating you up inside.
I’m not replying to anymore. For your own good. Try and enjoy your day.
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His arse fell out when clean through late on though. He didn’t fancy that one iota. Not the sign of a lethal marksman.
That’s just b*llocks. He made the right decision for the team.
in your opinion. The decision was made for him. Billy would’ve buried it. Just like he did against Bradford. Any natural striker would have.
Won 6 games out of 8 and clowns like this moaning about irrelevant stuff. Some folk can’t change their stripes however well we’re doing
aww bless, you must have conveniently skipped over my post saying how outstanding the vast majority were then.
It’s a forum to express opinions. Rather than bellowing it out from the stands. Don’t reply if you don’t like it. I really get under your skin. Let it go. It’s not healthy.
What a daft post, in one sentence you say it’s a forum to state your opinion and in the next sentence you say don’t post if you don’t have a different opinion to mine.
righto flower. Thing is you spend your time trolling people on their opinions. Pointless really. Have a discussion about the team by all means. Thats what the forum is for. But you don’t. You get yourself wound up by folk who dare to have a slightly negative slant by pointing out where we may be able to improve. Even our leader GM said in his latest interview states we can be better!!
So sad. It’s eating you up inside.
I’m not replying to anymore. For your own good. Try and enjoy your day.
Don’t you worry about me, what’s eating you up inside is how wrong you've been about everything over the last 2 years. It’s left you scratching around for things to be negative about and all you’re left with is our striker didn’t score in injury time when we were already winning.
You’ve been talking nonsense for years slagging off all sorts to do with the club, and now you’re left with nothing. Keep looking, I’m sure you’ll
Find Something for next week
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Hanlan was good when he came on. What exactly are people expecting in these 10/20 cameos from him?