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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: TonySoprano on August 27, 2025, 11:15:11 pm
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Wonder if we will be allowed to play against his parent club ?
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I very much doubt it. Aren’t they league rules to prevent conflicts of interest and any risk of accusations of impropriety if anything untoward were to happen? Imagine if the lad scored an own goal or got sent off and took us down to 10 men.
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Sure it's happened before though, and they've played.
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I don’t think it’s a rule more of an agreement. More likely in the same division in a league match.
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Isn’t up to the clubs involved to decide
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Both clubs would be crazy to prohibit him playing .
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Both clubs would be crazy to prohibit him playing .
…in your opinion.
In my opinion, I’d prefer him not to. If the lad has a bad game, suspicions will be raised, even if they are well wide of the mark. I’d rather not put us, Spurs or the player in that position.
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I think he should play. The cup tie rule is a out dated one. Think the decision will be down to Spurs but surely it helps his development if he plays.
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Unlikely he gets a go if Clifton is fit. If I was Spurs I'd be bringing him back just for this crime alone
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Unlikely he gets a go if Clifton is fit. If I was Spurs I'd be bringing him back just for this crime alone
Man, you have a massive issue with Clifton.
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I think it it upto the parent club for efl cup but can’t in league or fa cup
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It'll no doubt be up to the parent club but also how we perform might influence other loans from Spurs. My season ticket holder spurs friend was giving me grief within 10 seconds of the draw
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Highly doubt they'd let him play. They're a top club who want to win, they'll absolutely withhold one of their assets in Ajayi and rightly so.
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Without taking us lightly I’m sure that they will be confident that they can beat us whichever team we put out. Thomas Franck might want to see how Ajayi can perform against better players. Surely he isn’t going to get kicked against them as opposed to any other side he plays against?
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Sure it's happened before though, and they've played.
I've vague memory it happening in a league match and the said player scored against his parent club,possibly winning the game,his parent club manager got some proper grief about it,think the player was out of favour with him,hence loaned out,not sure but think it was championship,possibly Bristol City involved,does anyone else recalled it?
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Just had a quick google and come across this video,pretty funny really
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kg-QMYrYX2s&ved=2ahUKEwi5yurU76-PAxW4QEEAHcbLFFAQtwJ6BAgyEAE&usg=AOvVaw0U6MFnObBNdrXPCiVY-dpZ
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Isn’t up to the clubs involved to decide
As long as he starts against Rotherham as Sharp will never see the ball otherwise!!
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There's no way he should play - not good for Spurs, us, or Ajayi himself. People would over read into anything he did (good or bad).
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I thought his decision making was very poor today and his technique left a lot to be desired. Much better to come from him, I’m sure.
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I agree, it was a poor attempt on goal, and the pass to Ben would have been the better option.
He came with very high expectations, but doesn’t seem to be getting to grips with this level at present.
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The coaching staff need to have a word with him, wants to do it all on his own when he has better options
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He’s a very young developing player. His decision making will come.
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Some comments on here make me laugh.
He’s an extremely talented young player. If he was ours we would be talking very differently
He’s got improvements to make but he has the ability to have a very good career.
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He’s a very young developing player. His decision making will come.
Absolutely. Once he gets that and some composure he'll be a real good player. Just needs more games to learn.
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Whilst he made a few mistakes and wrong decisions, he actually looked like one of the players most likely to make something happen. Unlike the fella he replaced. I can live with a bit of naivety if he gets the defenders scrambling in the opposite direction.
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Yes, he was naive at times but we'll find out whether he's prepared to learn and commit to the cause.
He wasn't the only one though with other players just lacking a little composure at key times when a second goal would have killed the game.
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He is very talented and also very inexperienced. He can come on for 20 minutes and run riot because he hasn’t and hasn’t been trusted for 70 minutes previously in tracking back, pressing and holding shape against a side full of energy. Gibson and Middleton had to do that, Ajayi didn’t.
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He’s a very young developing player. His decision making will come.
Let’s hope that whilst he’s developing & learning to make the ‘right decision’, he does both in time to help us this season.
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I thought he was dreadful today. Ben Close would have buried that if Ajayi had just slipped the ball to him.
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Sure it's happened before though, and they've played.
I've vague memory it happening in a league match and the said player scored against his parent club,possibly winning the game,his parent club manager got some proper grief about it,think the player was out of favour with him,hence loaned out,not sure but think it was championship,possibly Bristol City involved,does anyone else recalled it?
It happened against DRFC. We loaned Ian Duerden to Kingstonian and he was allowed to play against us under Wignall’s management and scored once, possibly twice in win against us at Belle Vue. Rank bloody stupidity and totally amateurish on Rovers’ part.
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At moment in league he’s not a starter but on today’s performance he was no worst than Gibson who again showed when everyone is fit he’s a sub not a starter.
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Sure it's happened before though, and they've played.
I've vague memory it happening in a league match and the said player scored against his parent club,possibly winning the game,his parent club manager got some proper grief about it,think the player was out of favour with him,hence loaned out,not sure but think it was championship,possibly Bristol City involved,does anyone else recalled it?
It happened against DRFC. We loaned Ian Duerden to Kingstonian and he was allowed to play against us under Wignall’s management and scored once, possibly twice in win against us at Belle Vue. Rank bloody stupidity and totally amateurish on Rovers’ part.
10 February 2001. Scored both goals for Kingstonian in 2-0 win at Belle Vue. To be fair, we had ten men after Kevin McIntyre sent off in first half.
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Sure it's happened before though, and they've played.
I've vague memory it happening in a league match and the said player scored against his parent club,possibly winning the game,his parent club manager got some proper grief about it,think the player was out of favour with him,hence loaned out,not sure but think it was championship,possibly Bristol City involved,does anyone else recalled it?
It happened against DRFC. We loaned Ian Duerden to Kingstonian and he was allowed to play against us under Wignall’s management and scored once, possibly twice in win against us at Belle Vue. Rank bloody stupidity and totally amateurish on Rovers’ part.
bloody loved Duerden. Hated Wignall. I was once told in Karisma many moons ago, where Duerden happened to be a regular, that the alleged reason that Wignall refused to pick him was that Duerdens father in law was Stan Ternant and it was alleged that Mr Ternant had once allegedly lamped Mr Wignall. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
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Sure it's happened before though, and they've played.
I've vague memory it happening in a league match and the said player scored against his parent club,possibly winning the game,his parent club manager got some proper grief about it,think the player was out of favour with him,hence loaned out,not sure but think it was championship,possibly Bristol City involved,does anyone else recalled it?
It happened against DRFC. We loaned Ian Duerden to Kingstonian and he was allowed to play against us under Wignall’s management and scored once, possibly twice in win against us at Belle Vue. Rank bloody stupidity and totally amateurish on Rovers’ part.
bloody loved Duerden. Hated Wignall. I was once told in Karisma many moons ago, where Duerden happened to be a regular, that the alleged reason that Wignall refused to pick him was that Duerdens father in law was Stan Ternant and it was alleged that Mr Ternant had once allegedly lamped Mr Wignall. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
I loved Ian Duerden. Scored plenty of goals and some important ones for us at that time.
Wasn't he part time and a fireman?
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Sure it's happened before though, and they've played.
I've vague memory it happening in a league match and the said player scored against his parent club,possibly winning the game,his parent club manager got some proper grief about it,think the player was out of favour with him,hence loaned out,not sure but think it was championship,possibly Bristol City involved,does anyone else recalled it?
It happened against DRFC. We loaned Ian Duerden to Kingstonian and he was allowed to play against us under Wignall’s management and scored once, possibly twice in win against us at Belle Vue. Rank bloody stupidity and totally amateurish on Rovers’ part.
bloody loved Duerden. Hated Wignall. I was once told in Karisma many moons ago, where Duerden happened to be a regular, that the alleged reason that Wignall refused to pick him was that Duerdens father in law was Stan Ternant and it was alleged that Mr Ternant had once allegedly lamped Mr Wignall. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
Not heard that before but I was told by a Duerden family member a few years ago that Wignall didn’t like Duerden and that it was personal.
Still can’t get over the rank stupidity of allowing our own player to play against us. Everyone could see what was coming.
I recall the chief exec at the time responding to the crowd reaction that day with a patronising piece in the next match day programme about how it was unacceptable for Rovers fans to turn against their own players, totally misreading the reaction which was very much about Wignall’s treatment of Duerden and the decision to allow our own player to be available to play against Rovers. We all knew he could damage us and he did. Presumably Wignall thought he couldn’t.
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Thought Ajayi did a good job of getting in the right positions to be fair. Obviously he hesitated with his chances, and that's what killed him but I think we need to give him more time. He was visibly dissapointed with himself.
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Sure it's happened before though, and they've played.
I've vague memory it happening in a league match and the said player scored against his parent club,possibly winning the game,his parent club manager got some proper grief about it,think the player was out of favour with him,hence loaned out,not sure but think it was championship,possibly Bristol City involved,does anyone else recalled it?
It happened against DRFC. We loaned Ian Duerden to Kingstonian and he was allowed to play against us under Wignall’s management and scored once, possibly twice in win against us at Belle Vue. Rank bloody stupidity and totally amateurish on Rovers’ part.
bloody loved Duerden. Hated Wignall. I was once told in Karisma many moons ago, where Duerden happened to be a regular, that the alleged reason that Wignall refused to pick him was that Duerdens father in law was Stan Ternant and it was alleged that Mr Ternant had once allegedly lamped Mr Wignall. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
I loved Ian Duerden. Scored plenty of goals and some important ones for us at that time.
Wasn't he part time and a fireman?
He was for a while. Runs an electrical and security alarm company in Norfolk these days.
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Duerden is a historic figure for us. That fairly awful first season in the conference was made a huge success by winning what is probably aside from the Yorkshire Electricity Cup, the least credible tournament we have competed in let alone won. Felt like the European Cup though. Belle Vue packed to the rafters. In the long sweep of history before that we had only known defeat but after that we have largely only known success.
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Sure it's happened before though, and they've played.
I've vague memory it happening in a league match and the said player scored against his parent club,possibly winning the game,his parent club manager got some proper grief about it,think the player was out of favour with him,hence loaned out,not sure but think it was championship,possibly Bristol City involved,does anyone else recalled it?
It happened against DRFC. We loaned Ian Duerden to Kingstonian and he was allowed to play against us under Wignall’s management and scored once, possibly twice in win against us at Belle Vue. Rank bloody stupidity and totally amateurish on Rovers’ part.
bloody loved Duerden. Hated Wignall. I was once told in Karisma many moons ago, where Duerden happened to be a regular, that the alleged reason that Wignall refused to pick him was that Duerdens father in law was Stan Ternant and it was alleged that Mr Ternant had once allegedly lamped Mr Wignall. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
I was told by someone very close to the club at the time that the fallout was because Carl Alford came to make a partnership with Ian Duerden…but Duerden allegedly made a partnership with Alford’s wife. No idea if it was true but there was certainly more to him leaving than footballing reasons and it would have at least gone some way to explaining Alford’s struggles.
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Duerden is a historic figure for us. That fairly awful first season in the conference was made a huge success by winning what is probably aside from the Yorkshire Electricity Cup, the least credible tournament we have competed in let alone won. Felt like the European Cup though. Belle Vue packed to the rafters. In the long sweep of history before that we had only known defeat but after that we have largely only known success.
That 2nd goal was exceptional.
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Duerden is a historic figure for us. That fairly awful first season in the conference was made a huge success by winning what is probably aside from the Yorkshire Electricity Cup, the least credible tournament we have competed in let alone won. Felt like the European Cup though. Belle Vue packed to the rafters. In the long sweep of history before that we had only known defeat but after that we have largely only known success.
That 2nd goal was exceptional.
Great cross!
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I thought he was dreadful today. Ben Close would have buried that if Ajayi had just slipped the ball to him.
Close made a very clever run which opened up the chance for Ajayi, it was a poor attempt but it happens. He was right to shoot. He’ll come good.
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Just seen his pre match video on YouTube, comes across very well, loving life at donny...
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Sure it's happened before though, and they've played.
I've vague memory it happening in a league match and the said player scored against his parent club,possibly winning the game,his parent club manager got some proper grief about it,think the player was out of favour with him,hence loaned out,not sure but think it was championship,possibly Bristol City involved,does anyone else recalled it?
It happened against DRFC. We loaned Ian Duerden to Kingstonian and he was allowed to play against us under Wignall’s management and scored once, possibly twice in win against us at Belle Vue. Rank bloody stupidity and totally amateurish on Rovers’ part.
bloody loved Duerden. Hated Wignall. I was once told in Karisma many moons ago, where Duerden happened to be a regular, that the alleged reason that Wignall refused to pick him was that Duerdens father in law was Stan Ternant and it was alleged that Mr Ternant had once allegedly lamped Mr Wignall. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
I was told by someone very close to the club at the time that the fallout was because Carl Alford came to make a partnership with Ian Duerden…but Duerden allegedly made a partnership with Alford’s wife. No idea if it was true but there was certainly more to him leaving than footballing reasons and it would have at least gone some way to explaining Alford’s struggles.
I remember hearing that at the time, perhaps that’s why Alford couldn’t score both on and off the pitch
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The lad has talent, and just needs a bit of time and coaching to come really good. That's why Spurs have him tied firmly into their future, we are lucky to have him.