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Title: Molyneux
Post by: Thorney on September 27, 2025, 05:25:48 pm
Has his previous success now caused him to become a scapegoat with our fans for our recent results?

Seems like he gets criticisim when he hasnt been any worse than anyone else.

Between this forum and x (twitter) claims he should be dropped, what has gibson, ajayi or middleton done between them to merit a starting position in front of luke.

At times it seems molly is trying too hard. But out of the wide players he is also the best at tracking back and helping the wingbacks.

Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: jmt23 on September 27, 2025, 05:31:40 pm
He should not be a scapegoat, but you have to agree he is in awful form, and has been for a long time now.
I have no doubt he will come good, he is at least good enough for this level, but I wonder if someone else could offer more.
Gibbo on that side and Middleton on the other for a game or two.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: In the box on September 27, 2025, 05:37:30 pm
Has his previous success now caused him to become a scapegoat with our fans for our recent results?

Seems like he gets criticisim when he hasnt been any worse than anyone else.

Between this forum and x (twitter) claims he should be dropped, what has gibson, ajayi or middleton done between them to merit a starting position in front of luke.

At times it seems molly is trying too hard. But out of the wide players he is also the best at tracking back and helping the wingbacks.
We rely to heavily on him and when he’s bogged down with taking on 2-3 defenders he becomes one less outlet for us and Sterry’s injury is preventing them both to partner up with effectiveness .
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Fal on September 27, 2025, 05:45:43 pm
lol at our fanbase, it’s a wonder we still have players that want to play for us with the amount of stick they get after a defeat and sometimes even a win.


I’ll keep saying, get a grip and lower your damn expectations!
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: monkeytennis on September 27, 2025, 05:48:21 pm
He’s constantly double or triple marked it’s no wonder he can’t let loose as much as we’d like. The question is if two or three opponents are marking him who on the Rovers team is making use of that space elsewhere?
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Chris Black come back on September 27, 2025, 05:48:59 pm
Load of people losing the plot at Molyneux, Olosanya and Hanlon. One guy down front was going totally spare. Some of our support is very odd. You do wonder what they are like with their family or in the workplace. Lot of anger.   
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: EasyforDennis on September 27, 2025, 05:50:35 pm
The sooner he realises you don't beat a defender by kicking the ball at him the better.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: In the box on September 27, 2025, 05:56:58 pm
Load of people losing the plot at Molyneux, Olosanya and Hanlon. One guy down front was going totally spare. Some of our support is very odd. You do wonder what they are like with their family or in the workplace. Lot of anger.
We are all expected Rovers to sweep teams aside , facts are we a L2 side getting used to playing in L1 and it’s shows ..
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on September 27, 2025, 05:59:20 pm
He’s not very good at beating men. He wasn’t lat season or the season before. That’s nothing new.

I think the stick he’s getting is largely due to expectation. People thought he was this Championship level player that will hit the ground running in L1. He’s just not that.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: roversdude on September 27, 2025, 06:00:50 pm
Mole had a bad game as did quite a few others but ffs get a grip guys
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Branton Red on September 27, 2025, 06:04:00 pm
I think we need to bear in mind that, the odd game as a teenager aside, Molyneux has never played at this level before.

He's finding the step up a little difficult not helped by Sterry's injury or, given his excellence last year, opponents seeing him as a danger man and tactically looking to mark him out of games - using better defenders than he's used to coming up against.

I think we've seen enough quality in him to suggest he'll come good and start contributing more at this level eventually. It just needs a bit of patience.

Having said that I do wonder at times re team selection and substitution decisions what Middleton and Gibson have done so wrong that Molyneux has been doing so right in the manager's eyes so far this season?
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Padge_DRFC on September 27, 2025, 06:05:09 pm
Playing like he believes he's not good enough at the minute IMO.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Thorney on September 27, 2025, 06:05:24 pm
lol at our fanbase, it’s a wonder we still have players that want to play for us with the amount of stick they get after a defeat and sometimes even a win.


I’ll keep saying, get a grip and lower your damn expectations!

There is no way he will be signing a new contract when due.

The stick he gets when we go on a winless run is ridiculus, i could understand if other were firing on all cylinders, but they are not
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: wilts rover on September 27, 2025, 06:07:36 pm
He put a great cross in from the right midway through the second half that went right across the six-yard line with no-one anyway near it to turn it in. Just after Sharp had gone off - who is exactly the player you would have wanted on at that time.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Padge_DRFC on September 27, 2025, 06:12:42 pm
Will always stand out as we basically get the ball and try and find him first and hope we does some magic. Pretty much our tactics
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: jmt23 on September 27, 2025, 06:13:16 pm
You have to laugh Wilts, I said the same thing to my lad. Also the Spurs game, we did actually flash the ball across and create a few chances Billy would have loved.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Usher wide. on September 27, 2025, 06:19:25 pm
He’s not very good at beating men. He wasn’t lat season or the season before. That’s nothing new.

I think the stick he’s getting is largely due to expectation. People thought he was this Championship level player that will hit the ground running in L1. He’s just not that.

Oh how you’ve managed to not get this dig in until now must have pained you.

The fact he’s not ‘hit the ground running’ as yet in Lg1 has more to do with him not having that partnership with the right back he’s enjoyed with Sterry after Sterry’s injury.

He is without doubt our best outlet in the team & of course the opposition are wise to this.

More patience needed after 10 games me thinks.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: grayx on September 27, 2025, 06:22:36 pm
Molyneux should not be made a scapegoat as an”in form” Molyneux is one of the first names on the team sheet.
However, an out of form molyneux should not be exempt  from being subbed or even dropped.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Thorney on September 27, 2025, 06:33:55 pm
Seen a comment on x calling him a lazy t**t.

Got to be our most hardworking outfield players. He is our best wide player at tracking back
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Padge_DRFC on September 27, 2025, 06:55:35 pm
One thing he isn't is lazy. Just not coming off at the minute . Good points re-Sterry too hopefully stays fit for a while
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: NickDRFC on September 27, 2025, 07:00:56 pm
Seen a comment on x calling him a lazy t**t.

Got to be our most hardworking outfield players. He is our best wide player at tracking back

One thing he isn't is lazy. Just not coming off at the minute . Good points re-Sterry too hopefully stays fit for a while

Before he hit that form I remember speaking to the old timer next to me at Grimsby away about him. He wasn’t happy he was in the team - too little end product and didn’t work hard enough. I almost spat my tea out. He wasn’t putting up the numbers he has been in the 18 subsequent months but he always puts a shift in, even if things aren’t coming off for him.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Surrey Rover on September 27, 2025, 07:12:29 pm
lol at our fanbase, it’s a wonder we still have players that want to play for us with the amount of stick they get after a defeat and sometimes even a win.


I’ll keep saying, get a grip and lower your damn expectations!
It would appear Grant McCann disagrees with that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cn4w009l93yt
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Thorney on September 27, 2025, 07:20:01 pm
Can i just include that i felt he looked a lot more dangerous once switched to the left today
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: DRNaith on September 27, 2025, 09:24:26 pm
I wasn't at the game today, but I was at the last two league games. I think most of us would sign him, if he wasn't already with us, so on that made up fact, I want him here, playing.

The only thing I don't like about him is that when he makes a mistake, or something goes wrong, he'll sometimes have a micro-strop for a second, which can give the opposition a couple of metre's headstart, for him to chase down.

Other than that, he just needs to find some form again
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on September 27, 2025, 09:31:12 pm
Quality player, he's not going to do it every week and after three years you'd think we'd know that getting him in goalscoring positions is key, that's his game..he's essentially a wide striker not a beat your man winger.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Pancho Regan on September 27, 2025, 09:45:55 pm
He’s not very good at beating men. He wasn’t lat season or the season before. That’s nothing new.

I think the stick he’s getting is largely due to expectation. People thought he was this Championship level player that will hit the ground running in L1. He’s just not that.

I have you on ‘ignore’ but for some stupid reason I decided to read this post.

Back to ‘ignore’.



Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Usher wide. on September 27, 2025, 10:19:31 pm
He’s not very good at beating men. He wasn’t lat season or the season before. That’s nothing new.

I think the stick he’s getting is largely due to expectation. People thought he was this Championship level player that will hit the ground running in L1. He’s just not that.

I have you on ‘ignore’ but for some stupid reason I decided to read this post.

Back to ‘ignore’.

Leave him to me Pancho.

I have ‘his number’.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: StocksArmy on September 28, 2025, 10:39:03 am
I have never had an issue with Mols staying in the team when he’s not in the best form but, McCann never subbing him off is becoming ridiculous to the point where I very nearly booed when Middleton came off. Despite him being on a yellow it should 100% been number 7 on that board, he was utter cr@p yesterday.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: wilts rover on September 28, 2025, 11:11:17 am
I have never had an issue with Mols staying in the team when he’s not in the best form but, McCann never subbing him off is becoming ridiculous to the point where I very nearly booed when Middleton came off. Despite him being on a yellow it should 100% been number 7 on that board, he was utter cr@p yesterday.

Other than having our only shot on goal and creating one of our few decent chances after that substitution? OK.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Surrey Rover on September 28, 2025, 11:23:12 am
He definitely put the best cross of the match in.

I agree not a lot went right for him yesterday but he definitely didn’t hide during the match which is what several players were guilty of in the eyes of McCann in his post match interview.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Alan Southstand on September 28, 2025, 11:30:31 am
Who were the hiders?
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: mpc123 on September 28, 2025, 12:02:13 pm
I think moly is the man for the 10 position, Gibson and middleton wide. This would remove the problem where is is almost double marked and be a change opposition wouldn't think.

He is a very good player and with support not abuse will be better quicker. There are many players not playing to where they should be currently so dont pick moly out as a scapegoat, its pretty embarrassing to be part of a club where the fans just abuse at the slightest thing and all think they are the manager of the world when they couldn't even make sunday league. Thats why I support and encourage. Mccann leaves him on as he knows a moment of brilliance will make the difference and moly is pretty much the only guy who can give us that.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Thorney on September 28, 2025, 12:08:07 pm
I have never had an issue with Mols staying in the team when he’s not in the best form but, McCann never subbing him off is becoming ridiculous to the point where I very nearly booed when Middleton came off. Despite him being on a yellow it should 100% been number 7 on that board, he was utter cr@p yesterday.

Mcann stated in his post match that middleton was off his feet by the hour mark, questioned his decision to stsrt him after the spurs game.
Was a factor in the sub at that point. And also middleton wasnt creating anything better than mols.
He buzzes around like he is busier but isnt.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: In the box on September 28, 2025, 01:09:24 pm
Mols is a marked man so this creates a problem the team has to solve to get the best out of him . Relying on Mols beating one defender then a second one only to find he’s got no one to pass too . Defenders know about him so they double up and nullify his runs . Sterry’s  injury hasn’t helped as Mols fed off his quick pace and direct passes . McCann should have seen  this coming and made sure who ever played right fullback got the ball quicker up the pitch and stop passing it sideways and backwards.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: donnievic on September 28, 2025, 07:15:56 pm
Still prob 2nd player on team sheet behind Bailey even when not on his game,coming up against a lot better defenders whether he has 1 or 2 players against him when he has then ball,however when for what ever reason he doesn’t play he is missed even more for his defending duties