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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Ryaldinhio on October 18, 2025, 06:21:54 pm
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I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.
I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.
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I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.
I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.
We’ve been struggling all season to find the formation that creates chances and takes them . We need an out and out STRIKER!!
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I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.
I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.
We’ve been struggling all season to find the formation that creates chances and takes them . We need an out and out STRIKER!!
100% need something else/additional upfront. The incomings haven't given us many if any options.
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Billy all his life has played with someone upfront with him.
He isnt a lone striker. He feeds off the lay offs and flick ons from his striking partner.
Right now he must be seething inside, but on the other hand, he is getting the minutes that probably no one would of expected him too
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I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.
I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.
His issues is that he can’t create things for himself with pace, skill or strength. You can’t put balls in behind for him, you can’t knock the ball long to him… it’s all got to be pretty specific.
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If that’s the case we haven’t got a striker at the club who can.
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I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.
I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.
His issues is that he can’t create things for himself with pace, skill or strength. You can’t put balls in behind for him, you can’t knock the ball long to him… it’s all got to be pretty specific.
Street pretty much did all this. Surely Hanlan isn't that useless and can do these to some extent?
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I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.
I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.
His issues is that he can’t create things for himself with pace, skill or strength. You can’t put balls in behind for him, you can’t knock the ball long to him… it’s all got to be pretty specific.
Street pretty much did all this. Surely Hanlan isn't that useless and can do these to some extent?
Not from sat in the stand he can’t.
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Yep people said this last year until Street came in. Then Street himself and everyone around him started magically getting more chances.
No faulting Billy’s effort at the moment.
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We’ve lost a top end L1 striker and not remotely replaced him. The man we brought in to replace him the manager won’t even give a chance.
Starting to feel a bit like the Bogle situation in some ways. I live Billy but like Gaz says he’s not going to offer a lot in open play.
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I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.
I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.
His issues is that he can’t create things for himself with pace, skill or strength. You can’t put balls in behind for him, you can’t knock the ball long to him… it’s all got to be pretty specific.
I actually think Billy has shown in pretty much every game that he has plenty of strength and know how to position his body. He has shown more strength than Hanlan.
IMO Billy is our best/only option even when we arent playing to his strengths......and there is the issue.
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The games changed you need 3 strong athletic players nowadays
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Remember at at Scunthorpe with Keogh, that partnership was off the charts.
We need to find him a partner to feed off
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He needs balls in the box to his feet play to his strengths
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I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.
I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.
His issues is that he can’t create things for himself with pace, skill or strength. You can’t put balls in behind for him, you can’t knock the ball long to him… it’s all got to be pretty specific.
I think you are being a little bit disrespectful to Billy. There were lots of time in the game today where Billy was defending in and around their box. Thus absolutely no way is he able to have to do this and then be able to be the lead striker in our box.
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Sharp was probably our best attacker AND defender today!
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I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.
I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.
Absolutely this!
Those that ‘nit pick’ at him show only one thing, their lack of what it takes to be a footballer in his position on the field whilst claiming they do.
The same posters who tell us (as though we aren’t intelligent enough to see & judge for ourselves why he hasn’t been given) why Hanlan should be given ‘a run of games (no specifics on the amount) to see what he can do’. The answer was given quite succinctly by his last manager at Wycombe who having given Brandon a run of 100+ games in 4 years & was rewarded with a total of 16 goals stated that “Hanlon couldn’t hit a bull’s arse with a banjo”.
That ‘condemnation’ of a player who has plied his trade mainly in Lg1 & the Championship & is 12 years younger than Billy does make you wonder why Grant signed him in the first place.
I think the fact he sat in the stands today as opposed to the bench says it all, he’ll be on the ‘first bus’ out of the club’ as soon as….despite ‘others’ saying differently.
Olusnya will go back to Texas come January I have no doubt.
Ajayi got his first start today & after 70 minutes I’d seen enough to justify my earlier thoughts on him, go back to your parent club & let them ‘develop’ you, likewise Charlie Crew.
Bad recruitment. That needs addressing ‘in house’.
We need to regroup, buckle in & hope for some light going forward come January’s transfer window.
Today was a ‘watershed’ for the remainder of the season.
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Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.
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Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.
A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.
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Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.
A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.
Is the manager fully in charge of recruitment? Nope.
Is the manager the person 'bank rolling' the club? Nope.
Does the manager involve himself as Chief Executive Officer of the club? Nope.
Does the manager involve himself directly with getting players back to fitness after injury? Nope.
Does it follow then that the manager as 'head coach' therefore have "...full control over everything....".? Nope.
But don't let that stop you throwing mud.
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Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.
A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.
Is the manager fully in charge of recruitment? Nope.
Is the manager the person 'bank rolling' the club? Nope.
Does the manager involve himself as Chief Executive Officer of the club? Nope.
Does the manager involve himself directly with getting players back to fitness after injury? Nope.
Does it follow then that the manager as 'head coach' therefore have "...full control over everything....".? Nope.
But don't let that stop you throwing mud.
He does have full control over recruitment and everyone in the football department answers to him. We had a head of football operations when GM joined. There’s no mud slinging here, it’s how we (and other clubs btw) operate. It’s an option that can be successful. I’m just saying it’s not the best strategy, long term, for everyone involved.
Imagine being a football manager and only having to concentrate on setting up a team for Saturday, picking the squad and motivating the players. Has to be a less stressful job!
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Billy has around one decent chance a game under the current set up. He’s got no hope at 19 let alone 39 with that service.
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Billy must be a huge influence in the dressing room. I do wonder if there is friction between him and GM?
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Given McCann singled him out both for praise and as a role model after the Orient debacle, I doubt this.
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Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.
A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.
Is the manager fully in charge of recruitment? Nope.
Is the manager the person 'bank rolling' the club? Nope.
Does the manager involve himself as Chief Executive Officer of the club? Nope.
Does the manager involve himself directly with getting players back to fitness after injury? Nope.
Does it follow then that the manager as 'head coach' therefore have "...full control over everything....".? Nope.
But don't let that stop you throwing mud.
He does have full control over recruitment and everyone in the football department answers to him. We had a head of football operations when GM joined. There’s no mud slinging here, it’s how we (and other clubs btw) operate. It’s an option that can be successful. I’m just saying it’s not the best strategy, long term, for everyone involved.
Imagine being a football manager and only having to concentrate on setting up a team for Saturday, picking the squad and motivating the players. Has to be a less stressful job!
On this. Has anyone seen what’s happening at Hearts? Brought in the smartest data analysis in the world, they do recruitment and strategy. The head coach follows their direction and they are now 5 points clear of Celtic at the top of the SPL and 13 points clear of Rangers.
They finished 7th last season. This progress has come about in less than 12 months. That’s the impact the taking certain decisions away from the manager, and giving them to super smart teams behind the scenes, can have.
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I think Grimsby are now doing something similar too.
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Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.
A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.
Is the manager fully in charge of recruitment? Nope.
Is the manager the person 'bank rolling' the club? Nope.
Does the manager involve himself as Chief Executive Officer of the club? Nope.
Does the manager involve himself directly with getting players back to fitness after injury? Nope.
Does it follow then that the manager as 'head coach' therefore have "...full control over everything....".? Nope.
But don't let that stop you throwing mud.
He does have full control over recruitment and everyone in the football department answers to him. We had a head of football operations when GM joined. There’s no mud slinging here, it’s how we (and other clubs btw) operate. It’s an option that can be successful. I’m just saying it’s not the best strategy, long term, for everyone involved.
Imagine being a football manager and only having to concentrate on setting up a team for Saturday, picking the squad and motivating the players. Has to be a less stressful job!
On this. Has anyone seen what’s happening at Hearts? Brought in the smartest data analysis in the world, they do recruitment and strategy. The head coach follows their direction and they are now 5 points clear of Celtic at the top of the SPL and 13 points clear of Rangers.
They finished 7th last season. This progress has come about in less than 12 months. That’s the impact the taking certain decisions away from the manager, and giving them to super smart teams behind the scenes, can have.
8 points clear of Celtic now after a strong performance this lunchtime.
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Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.
A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.
Is the manager fully in charge of recruitment? Nope.
Is the manager the person 'bank rolling' the club? Nope.
Does the manager involve himself as Chief Executive Officer of the club? Nope.
Does the manager involve himself directly with getting players back to fitness after injury? Nope.
Does it follow then that the manager as 'head coach' therefore have "...full control over everything....".? Nope.
But don't let that stop you throwing mud.
He does have full control over recruitment and everyone in the football department answers to him. We had a head of football operations when GM joined. There’s no mud slinging here, it’s how we (and other clubs btw) operate. It’s an option that can be successful. I’m just saying it’s not the best strategy, long term, for everyone involved.
Imagine being a football manager and only having to concentrate on setting up a team for Saturday, picking the squad and motivating the players. Has to be a less stressful job!
On this. Has anyone seen what’s happening at Hearts? Brought in the smartest data analysis in the world, they do recruitment and strategy. The head coach follows their direction and they are now 5 points clear of Celtic at the top of the SPL and 13 points clear of Rangers.
They finished 7th last season. This progress has come about in less than 12 months. That’s the impact the taking certain decisions away from the manager, and giving them to super smart teams behind the scenes, can have.
Fancy a spell as an unpaid intern!
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Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.
A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.
Is the manager fully in charge of recruitment? Nope.
Is the manager the person 'bank rolling' the club? Nope.
Does the manager involve himself as Chief Executive Officer of the club? Nope.
Does the manager involve himself directly with getting players back to fitness after injury? Nope.
Does it follow then that the manager as 'head coach' therefore have "...full control over everything....".? Nope.
But don't let that stop you throwing mud.
He does have full control over recruitment and everyone in the football department answers to him. We had a head of football operations when GM joined. There’s no mud slinging here, it’s how we (and other clubs btw) operate. It’s an option that can be successful. I’m just saying it’s not the best strategy, long term, for everyone involved.
Imagine being a football manager and only having to concentrate on setting up a team for Saturday, picking the squad and motivating the players. Has to be a less stressful job!
On this. Has anyone seen what’s happening at Hearts? Brought in the smartest data analysis in the world, they do recruitment and strategy. The head coach follows their direction and they are now 5 points clear of Celtic at the top of the SPL and 13 points clear of Rangers.
They finished 7th last season. This progress has come about in less than 12 months. That’s the impact the taking certain decisions away from the manager, and giving them to super smart teams behind the scenes, can have.
8 points clear of Celtic now after a strong performance this lunchtime.
Yeah, I watched it. If Hearts win the SPL within one year of Bloom taking over it will be one of the most incredible football achievements I’ve ever seen.
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I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.
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I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.
easy solution to do do with sumone else’s money though
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I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.
easy solution to do do with sumone else’s money though
Yes, Vic, but Terry has stated emphatically that he wants to leave a good legacy, which we assume to be Championship football, as is the desire of GM.
This won't happen without money. However, Terry has been known in the past to stump up in January. We can only hope.
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I imagine the chance was there, however if say 400k did it. You've missed out on signing 3 or 4 decent league 1 players on a free just on the transfer fee alone never mind the wages on top.
However some of the money on wages appears to be being wasted. Hanlan 2 weeks and not in the squad
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I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.
Might be cheaper in the next window? Who knows....
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Ever thought we haven't a sum they can't refuse? and going that way about things would bring the club down eventually and put's all the cards in Lincolns favour.
I am sure that our chairman will back the manager if required for team building and the management team will have their targets and valuations for the next window to improve the team.
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I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.
I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.
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I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.
I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.
No you’re right.
Why pay ‘hundreds of thousands’ for a player who we know would be more than capable of leading the line for us (as opposed to ‘channel running’) when as you allude to there are cheaper options out there. Like Hanlan & Olusanya.
As for Rob Street just having “….had the hottest goal scoring streak he will have in his career.” What do you base that ridiculous assumption on?
You might be correct if he’s given the job that Mols & Middleton’s have, running the channels i.e., wide players. But supposing a club buys him & their manager plays him in the role Billy occupies (please, please don’t pick up an injury Billy) for us now? Would you be willing to bet he wouldn’t score 20 goals in a full season as a No.9 in this division?
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I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.
I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.
No you’re right.
Why pay ‘hundreds of thousands’ for a player who we know would be more than capable of leading the line for us (as opposed to ‘channel running’) when as you allude to there are cheaper options out there. Like Hanlan & Olusanya.
As for Rob Street just having “….had the hottest goal scoring streak he will have in his career.” What do you base that ridiculous assumption on?
You might be correct if he’s given the job that Mols & Middleton’s have, running the channels i.e., wide players. But supposing a club buys him & their manager plays him in the role Billy occupies (please, please don’t pick up an injury Billy) for us now? Would you be willing to bet he wouldn’t score 20 goals in a full season as a No.9 in this division?
You’re just a complete waffler. What are you talking about.
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He makes a perfectly good point, Gaz! I think GM would have him scoring regularly for us, without question. Whether he could get 20 in a season would depend on lots of things and not all down to Street, as you well know.
I can’t think of anyone I’ve watched at this level, or below, who could do any better and be much cheaper?
Can you?
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Ref the question you asked in your third paragraph Usher: we've witnessed the truth of Gaz's statement for ourselves.
BobG
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I’m not so sure, and that is nothing to do with Rob Street by the way. We just do not create loads of chances during games for strikers to thrive on, last Saturday was a rare game where we did create a few, and should have done much better.
Olusanya is a keen channel runner, and we don’t create owt for him, not to say he is the same quality, but I don’t remember him getting the same chances created for him.
Perhaps it was Rob Streets personality- he is very similar to Billy in that he expects team mates to be better and is not shy in letting them know. They maybe need more of that personality in the team.
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I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.
I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.
No you’re right.
Why pay ‘hundreds of thousands’ for a player who we know would be more than capable of leading the line for us (as opposed to ‘channel running’) when as you allude to there are cheaper options out there. Like Hanlan & Olusanya.
As for Rob Street just having “….had the hottest goal scoring streak he will have in his career.” What do you base that ridiculous assumption on?
You might be correct if he’s given the job that Mols & Middleton’s have, running the channels i.e., wide players. But supposing a club buys him & their manager plays him in the role Billy occupies (please, please don’t pick up an injury Billy) for us now? Would you be willing to bet he wouldn’t score 20 goals in a full season as a No.9 in this division?
Rob Street data:
R. Street - League 2, 2024/25
Shots/90 - 2.22
xG/90 - 0.57
Goals/90 - 0.66
R. Street - League 1, 2025/26
Shots/90 - 1.2
xG/90 - 0.18
Goals/90 - 0.10
R. Street - League 1, All seasons
Shots/90 - 1.41
xG/90 - 0.24
Goals/90 - 0.12
The question then is can he replicate the form for us last season in League 1? Assuming a 20% drop off of last seasons numbers due to the increase in quality between League 1 and 2, his adjusted numbers are:
R. Street - League 2, 2024/25, Adjusted for League 1
Shots/90 - 1.78
xG/90 - 0.46
Goals/90 - 0.53
To replicate the hot streak in League 1, he’d need to increase his frequency (shots/90) by 26% from his career average at that level. For quality, he’d need to almost double his xG/90 and make a 4-5 fold increase in his goals/90.
You’d want a more sophisticated model before spending hundreds of thousands of course, but it shows a basic order of magnitude of improvement that would be be required.
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Ref the question you asked in your third paragraph Usher: we've witnessed the truth of Gaz's statement for ourselves.
BobG
Sorry, Bob, that's not quite right. Yes, we've witnessed Rob's hot scoring streak, but how can anyone say that he won't ever equal or better that throughout the rest of his career?
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Ref the question you asked in your third paragraph Usher: we've witnessed the truth of Gaz's statement for ourselves.
BobG
Sorry, Bob, that's not quite right. Yes, we've witnessed Rob's hot scoring streak, but how can anyone say that he won't ever equal or better that throughout the rest of his career?
Street is 24yo, has played 150 games, and has looked like a threat for about 18 of them whilst playing for the best team in the 4th division.
I’m not saying the lads useless, he’s not. I’m just saying our fans over rate him. Judging strikers on short term goal returns is just not the way to do it.
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He is also going to be impacted by the rest of our players probably relatively dropping in quality faster than him in League One, so he is going to be getting worse service than last season.
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Has he been playing wide for Lincoln?
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Ref the question you asked in your third paragraph Usher: we've witnessed the truth of Gaz's statement for ourselves.
BobG
Sorry, Bob, that's not quite right. Yes, we've witnessed Rob's hot scoring streak, but how can anyone say that he won't ever equal or better that throughout the rest of his career?
Street is 24yo, has played 150 games, and has looked like a threat for about 18 of them whilst playing for the best team in the 4th division.
I’m not saying the lads useless, he’s not. I’m just saying our fans over rate him. Judging strikers on short term goal returns is just not the way to do it.
We weren’t the best team in the 4th division without him though.
Looking at Sofascore he’s started only 5 games in all comps a centre forward and has in those games scored 3 goals and has 1 assist.
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I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.
I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.
No you’re right.
Why pay ‘hundreds of thousands’ for a player who we know would be more than capable of leading the line for us (as opposed to ‘channel running’) when as you allude to there are cheaper options out there. Like Hanlan & Olusanya.
As for Rob Street just having “….had the hottest goal scoring streak he will have in his career.” What do you base that ridiculous assumption on?
You might be correct if he’s given the job that Mols & Middleton’s have, running the channels i.e., wide players. But supposing a club buys him & their manager plays him in the role Billy occupies (please, please don’t pick up an injury Billy) for us now? Would you be willing to bet he wouldn’t score 20 goals in a full season as a No.9 in this division?
You’re just a complete waffler. What are you talking about.
I’ll try to keep it simple (sorry there are no pictures for you to look at, you’ll have to stick with the narrative) for you.
Street scored 12 goals for us in 22 league appearances last season. He’s 24 years old which means he’s at an age where he at the very least 3-4 years off the ‘peak of his potential’.
Grant had the nouse after 3/4 games to move him into the centre of the attack which is where he hit the ‘hottest’ goal scoring run of his career thus far (is this ‘working for you’ Bob G?).
That sort of ‘potential’ costs money & if you’re serious about being a club that wants to play at a higher level than Lg1 then that, unfortunate as it may be to some, are the ‘waters you have to swim in’.
Brandon Hanlan (let’s put the phenomenal Billy Sharp at 39 years of age to one side for now) scored 16 league goals in 111 games over a 4 year period playing as a central striker for his previous club & ‘came’ to us for nothing. He’s 27 years old when most players are hitting their peak & is clearly not impressing the manager who more often than not doesn’t even have him on the bench. I think it’s fair to say he’s a player with little if any potential.
So, if you know of any player ‘out there’ who has the potential of a Street that won’t cost ‘hundreds of thousands’ then please enlighten us.
I’ve said it before but to ‘crystallise’ what I’m saying for those with limited attention spans, Hanlan, Olusanya, Ajayi & Crew will not move the club forward imo. Let’s send Crew & Ajayi back to their parent clubs to continue their ‘development’, Olusanya can head off back to Texas in January & let’s get players into the club in January who can offer us what they have failed to do since they joined the club in May.
Hanlan…..ouch, did we not get burned with his signing.
If Billy picks up an injury who the heck do we turn to?
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I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.
I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.
No you’re right.
Why pay ‘hundreds of thousands’ for a player who we know would be more than capable of leading the line for us (as opposed to ‘channel running’) when as you allude to there are cheaper options out there. Like Hanlan & Olusanya.
As for Rob Street just having “….had the hottest goal scoring streak he will have in his career.” What do you base that ridiculous assumption on?
You might be correct if he’s given the job that Mols & Middleton’s have, running the channels i.e., wide players. But supposing a club buys him & their manager plays him in the role Billy occupies (please, please don’t pick up an injury Billy) for us now? Would you be willing to bet he wouldn’t score 20 goals in a full season as a No.9 in this division?
You’re just a complete waffler. What are you talking about.
I’ll try to keep it simple (sorry there are no pictures for you to look at, you’ll have to stick with the narrative) for you.
Street scored 12 goals for us in 22 league appearances last season. He’s 24 years old which means he’s at an age where he at the very least 3-4 years off the ‘peak of his potential’.
Grant had the nouse after 3/4 games to move him into the centre of the attack which is where he hit the ‘hottest’ goal scoring run of his career thus far (is this ‘working for you’ Bob G?).
That sort of ‘potential’ costs money & if you’re serious about being a club that wants to play at a higher level than Lg1 then that, unfortunate as it may be to some, are the ‘waters you have to swim in’.
Brandon Hanlan (let’s put the phenomenal Billy Sharp at 39 years of age to one side for now) scored 16 league goals in 111 games over a 4 year period playing as a central striker for his previous club & ‘came’ to us for nothing. He’s 27 years old when most players are hitting their peak & is clearly not impressing the manager who more often than not doesn’t even have him on the bench. I think it’s fair to say he’s a player with little if any potential.
So, if you know of any player ‘out there’ who has the potential of a Street that won’t cost ‘hundreds of thousands’ then please enlighten us.
I’ve said it before but to ‘crystallise’ what I’m saying for those with limited attention spans, Hanlan, Olusanya, Ajayi & Crew will not move the club forward imo. Let’s send Crew & Ajayi back to their parent clubs to continue their ‘development’, Olusanya can head off back to Texas in January & let’s get players into the club in January who can offer us what they have failed to do since they joined the club in May.
Hanlan…..ouch, did we not get burned with his signing.
If Billy picks up an injury who the heck do we turn to?
I can’t be the only one that reads these posts in the voice of Dr Evil…
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I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.
I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.
No you’re right.
Why pay ‘hundreds of thousands’ for a player who we know would be more than capable of leading the line for us (as opposed to ‘channel running’) when as you allude to there are cheaper options out there. Like Hanlan & Olusanya.
As for Rob Street just having “….had the hottest goal scoring streak he will have in his career.” What do you base that ridiculous assumption on?
You might be correct if he’s given the job that Mols & Middleton’s have, running the channels i.e., wide players. But supposing a club buys him & their manager plays him in the role Billy occupies (please, please don’t pick up an injury Billy) for us now? Would you be willing to bet he wouldn’t score 20 goals in a full season as a No.9 in this division?
You’re just a complete waffler. What are you talking about.
I’ll try to keep it simple (sorry there are no pictures for you to look at, you’ll have to stick with the narrative) for you.
Street scored 12 goals for us in 22 league appearances last season. He’s 24 years old which means he’s at an age where he at the very least 3-4 years off the ‘peak of his potential’.
Grant had the nouse after 3/4 games to move him into the centre of the attack which is where he hit the ‘hottest’ goal scoring run of his career thus far (is this ‘working for you’ Bob G?).
That sort of ‘potential’ costs money & if you’re serious about being a club that wants to play at a higher level than Lg1 then that, unfortunate as it may be to some, are the ‘waters you have to swim in’.
Brandon Hanlan (let’s put the phenomenal Billy Sharp at 39 years of age to one side for now) scored 16 league goals in 111 games over a 4 year period playing as a central striker for his previous club & ‘came’ to us for nothing. He’s 27 years old when most players are hitting their peak & is clearly not impressing the manager who more often than not doesn’t even have him on the bench. I think it’s fair to say he’s a player with little if any potential.
So, if you know of any player ‘out there’ who has the potential of a Street that won’t cost ‘hundreds of thousands’ then please enlighten us.
I’ve said it before but to ‘crystallise’ what I’m saying for those with limited attention spans, Hanlan, Olusanya, Ajayi & Crew will not move the club forward imo. Let’s send Crew & Ajayi back to their parent clubs to continue their ‘development’, Olusanya can head off back to Texas in January & let’s get players into the club in January who can offer us what they have failed to do since they joined the club in May.
Hanlan…..ouch, did we not get burned with his signing.
If Billy picks up an injury who the heck do we turn to?
I can’t be the only one that reads these posts in the voice of Dr Evil…
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