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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on December 05, 2025, 05:30:50 pm
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This is so cringey FIFA sucking up to Trump
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Watching the chase, can't be doing with the draws.
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I’ve stuck with it , I’m exhausted
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Unbelievable how they finally got the corrupt Blatter out and replaced him with this character.
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Biggest load of bollox I’ve seen in a long time.
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I hope someone is keeping a keen eye on the trophy, otherwise he'll have it.
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WTF is this shouty crap?
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Wtf have they done to the draw for a football competition. I thought I was watching Eurovision for a mo.
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The stuffed shirts of FIFA not exactly keen to get down with Lauren Hill.
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There’s so much wrong with this World Cup. I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many dyed in the wool England supporters already saying they won’t be going.
Ticket prices are off the scale. For me to follow England will cost somewhere between $4,700 and $12,000 if I can get Cat3 or Cat4 tickets.
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A lot of Americans wondering who the f*** Rio is.
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This is so cringe worthy it's very difficult to watch.
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Just seen this tweet from Football Supporters Europe.
Let us be very clear: this baby's rattle is not awarded "on behalf of billions of fans around the world", as @FIFAcom claims. It’s nothing more than an ego-stroking stunt.
This is a deeply troubling day for football & FIFA.
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The stuffed shirts of FIFA not exactly keen to get down with Lauren Hill.
I hope they brought earplugs and something to read so they didn't have to endure that bloody awful cacophony. I would have.
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Please somebody, draw Croatia before we get stuck with them...
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Oh shit.
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Abolish America.
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Doesn’t matter who we have in our group. If we are supposed to be serious contenders then it doesn’t matter who’s in our group.
Will we be overhyped as normal
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This is so cringey FIFA sucking up to Trump
It should have been a straight jacket they gave him instead of medal !!
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Not too bad a group for England. Scotland are probably delighted to be playing Brazil.
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What a third-rate Disney World this has become.
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There’s so much wrong with this World Cup. I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many dyed in the wool England supporters already saying they won’t be going.
Ticket prices are off the scale. For me to follow England will cost somewhere between $4,700 and $12,000 if I can get Cat3 or Cat4 tickets.
It's just mind-boggling.. I'm sure they'll be plenty of Scots thumbing a lift from May.
I still don't understand how the second stage is going to work but hey ho, the task is simple. Win every game!!
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Crikey that was a tough watch. A cheese fest, and a confusing draw process to say the least.
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And Trump doing the Uncle Knobhead dance to YMCA
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Just seen this tweet from Football Supporters Europe.
Let us be very clear: this baby's rattle is not awarded "on behalf of billions of fans around the world", as @FIFAcom claims. It’s nothing more than an ego-stroking stunt.
This is a deeply troubling day for football & FIFA.
I only saw the beginning of the draw on BBC News but the notion of FIFA awarding their own Peace Award to Donald Trump is sickening.
Who gave them the mandate to do this? Who nominated? Who voted?
FIFA is supposed to be a non-political organisation.
You’re right Martin, a deeply troubling day for football. But after awarding the World Cup to Qatar, I guess the die was cast.
This is a horrible spectacle.
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Wouldn't go anywhere near it and won't be watching. A complete farce topped off with the tangerine surfacing for accolades... I don't understand why regular yanks have stopped taking pot shots at him..
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Tango man. Everyone has just been tango’d
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Doesn’t matter who we have in our group. If we are supposed to be serious contenders then it doesn’t matter who’s in our group.
Will we be overhyped as normal
To be fair, England haven’t been overhyped since the golden era mess. Southgate did a superb job on the press and got the England lads likeable again. Since then it’s been much calmer on the expectation front.
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I have a friend who is a retired Pro referee.He says we should expect some very Trump-influenced decisions throughout and it has already started at the draw.
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Not a bad group, but then there aren't really any groups of death this year. Another great thing about the world cup killed off by this crap expanded format.
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Infantino is an idiot. His decision to postpone Ronaldo’s two match ban so he can play in the WC is a shocking disgrace. This man believes in his own hype.
If you listened to his initial introduction he talked about how he has been present at all the truce signing process’s that Trump has been involved in. He does believe that football has a major influence on world peace!!
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He's the typical functionary who has to believe himself important to give his life meaning. The reality, of course, is that he looks, and acts, a clown. Hobnobbing with other clowns gives every one of 'em the opportunity to reinforce their ego again.
In the vernacular, he's a fatuous and conceited pillock. I never thought I'd say it, but bring back Havelange.
BobG
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As far as who we could have got. Pot 2 and 4 we've drawn the best teams from those pots.
I've seen tickets are $45 for England members which is decent.
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One thing for certain, if trump has anal polyps, infantino will have found them. Had to switch it off, too cringey and corrupt. USA for world champions anyone? It’s obvious FIFA will do anything to make it happen, maybe trump reffing USA games? F*ck*ng vomit making and an embarrassment to world football - or should I say, SOCCER!!! :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
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As far as who we could have got. Pot 2 and 4 we've drawn the best teams from those pots.
I've seen tickets are $45 for England members which is decent.
You’ve seen wrong then. There’s not a single ticket for sale at that price .
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Infantino is an idiot. His decision to postpone Ronaldo’s two match ban so he can play in the WC is a shocking disgrace. This man believes in his own hype.
If you listened to his initial introduction he talked about how he has been present at all the truce signing process’s that Trump has been involved in. He does believe that football has a major influence on world peace!!
Fifa has been desperate to properly crack America for ages. Infantino is just the latest suit to try. Hence why they've tailored the world cup to Trump's America. More teams, more content, more crap teams for everyone else to smash goals past, more money made... everything done to excess so they can say it was the biggest and best world cup ever with the most goals to milk the lucrative American market.
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We could do with a world cup in Australia we'd fill the grounds out with the people that now live out there just like the Ashes
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Not sure what has happened with that draw for England. I had assumed the entire draw was fixed so that the highest seeded sides had a very easy ride. We’ve been given some fairly strong sides there, all told. I assumed we’d like the other seeded sides be given the Vatican City and Micronesia so we had TV value longer into the tournament. Croatia and Ghana are not mugs and we are playing Panama broadly in their home continent / region. A curious outcome from such an obviously fixed draw generally.
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One thing for certain, if trump has anal polyps, infantino will have found them. Had to switch it off, too cringey and corrupt. USA for world champions anyone? It’s obvious FIFA will do anything to make it happen, maybe trump reffing USA games? F*ck*ng vomit making and an embarrassment to world football - or should I say, SOCCER!!! :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
Oh! What a wonderful picture! Anal polyps. God. I do hope he's got plenty...
BobG
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The draw looks a tricky one to me. I wanted to avoid Brazil till later on at all costs, we could get them in the 1/4’s. Not that things always play out like that.
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I have a friend who is a retired Pro referee.He says we should expect some very Trump-influenced decisions throughout and it has already started at the draw.
That’s exactly what we were discussing watching the draw, how many decisions will we be talking about in games involving USA? Concerning to be making these comments but after watching that last night, what lengths will that guy go to please Trump?
The FIFA peace award was an absolute joke.
After last night just wonder how many will thing twice about watching games other than the England games, not sure it will be my priority in the summer now.
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Looked at the draw as a whole last night, there’s hardly going to be a decent game for three weeks, 48 teams is nonsense. Then the corrupt orange offender trying to use it as a propaganda vehicle, it’s enough to put you completely off.
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Is there a procedure where a new governing body can be formed FIFA are now not fit for purpose
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From an England perspective, and perhaps more broadly UEFA, FIFA are not fit for purpose. However, there's plenty of support for Infantino elsewhere.
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Looked at the draw as a whole last night, there’s hardly going to be a decent game for three weeks, 48 teams is nonsense. Then the corrupt orange offender trying to use it as a propaganda vehicle, it’s enough to put you completely off.
England v Croatia is the stand out tie
France v Senegal after that
Win 1 match and you're through also in this format
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Ecuador v Germany should be a cracker
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I don't think Croatia are as strong anymore.
England should not be fazed by any team in that group.
Who from Ghana or Croatia would get into our starting 11?
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Wouldn’t wish this on any other player but a Ronaldo injury before this would be hilarious.
I can’t cope with the level of cringe when he scores a hat trick of tap ins against Uzbekistan and the whole crowd does “Siuuu” with him.
Please no.
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Ticket prices for England Travel Club members released today.
So depending on how many loyalty points you have and available tickets in each category then the final could cost between $4185 and $8,860. Just astonishing!
And you have to pay upfront within the next 4 weeks or so.
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Those prices are an absolute scandal !
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In FIFA's defence, there's a considerable cost involved in the surgery to remove Infantino's head from Trump's backside.
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So if a family of 4 wanted to watch England all the way to the final, the tickets alone for the cheap seats would cost $30k ?!?
Welcome to the People's Game.
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We lost our game.... I truly hope that nobody travels - although no doubt there will be some who manage to scrape the
benefit money together....
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Anyone paying those prices needs certifying
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We lost our game.... I truly hope that nobody travels - although no doubt there will be some who manage to scrape the benefit money together....
Think you'll find those that follow England all earn their own money
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Surely grounds are going to be empty in the group stages. Americans aren't going to pay that too that aren't their own games
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Surely grounds are going to be empty in the group stages. Americans aren't going to pay that too that aren't their own games
Padge, the 1994 World Cup in the USA was the highest attended World Cup in history.
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Surely grounds are going to be empty in the group stages. Americans aren't going to pay that too that aren't their own games
There’s a lot of rich people in America!
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I see they have managed to sneak advert breaks in, halfway through each half. This used to be a line FIFA would not cross.
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$455 to watch the runners up bronze medal game? LOL!
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Surely grounds are going to be empty in the group stages. Americans aren't going to pay that too that aren't their own games
Padge, the 1994 World Cup in the USA was the highest attended World Cup in history.
Is that more down to all the grounds being big at the time?
How many Americans are going to splash out to watch Scotland v Haiti?
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I see they have managed to sneak advert breaks in, halfway through each half. This used to be a line FIFA would not cross.
Heard this elsewhere, is this correct? I’m sacking football off all together when it goes 4 quarters!
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I see they have managed to sneak advert breaks in, halfway through each half. This used to be a line FIFA would not cross.
Heard this elsewhere, is this correct? I’m sacking football off all together when it goes 4 quarters!
Dressed up of 3 minute hydration breaks in each half, regardless of the temperatures
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I see they have managed to sneak advert breaks in, halfway through each half. This used to be a line FIFA would not cross.
Heard this elsewhere, is this correct? I’m sacking football off all together when it goes 4 quarters!
I think a game often goes into four quarters these days mate, what with the tactical breaks when the keeper “gets cramp”.
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Let’s face it, if the US networks want the players to play 4 quarters and dress up as cheerleaders in each break, infantino would allow it - as long as it keeps Trump happy! :headbang:
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Complete joke. Expecting people to pay in full just after Christmas is almost as bad as the pricing itself. Hard to overstate how much damage FIFA has done to the prestige of the World Cup in the last decade.
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So when bidding to secure the World Cup the host FA has to publish their forecast ticket prices ijn their bid documents for approval by FIFA. This is fraud, and FIFA are complicit;
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Really appreciate you sharing this on the forum Martin.
Do you, or anyone know who actually benefits from the prices being this high?
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Really appreciate you sharing this on the forum Martin.
Do you, or anyone know who actually benefits from the prices being this high?
Essentially its FIFA, but there’s a part of me thinks that El Presidente has his murky fingers in the pie. But just read a report that claims that this deal agreed between FIFA and the host cities is the worst deal ever done and the host cities are picking up lots of costs they never expected. They are starting to make cut backs already, including cancelling a lot of the Fan Fests that are a key part. I'm going to keep digging and see what I can find.
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So when bidding to secure the World Cup the host FA has to publish their forecast ticket prices ijn their bid documents for approval by FIFA. This is fraud, and FIFA are complicit;
Spot on. I hope this gets published around the world and FIFA held to account. Football is being stolen from the fans. We've seen this already in the Premier League and how the owners are trying to remove 'cheap' season tickets and concessions. We've seen the introduction of the club world cup at the expense of domestic leagues who are expected to rollover to accommodate it. None of all this is for fans.
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On the same lines I wonder exactly who is going to present the trophy to the winner of the final....
Scurrilous thought. The finals are not just before the US midterm elections are they....?
BobG
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Whats to stop the different federations coming together and boycotting FIFA to form their own governing body?
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Whats to stop the different federations coming together and boycotting FIFA to form their own governing body?
There is already a body for teams who are not affiliated with FIFA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederation_of_Independent_Football_Associations#List_of_members
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Surely grounds are going to be empty in the group stages. Americans aren't going to pay that too that aren't their own games
Padge, the 1994 World Cup in the USA was the highest attended World Cup in history.
Is that more down to all the grounds being big at the time?
How many Americans are going to splash out to watch Scotland v Haiti?
Actually, Padge, there will be millions of Yanks that have Scottish ancestry. The USA is cosmopolitan, and most families have heritage links to other countries.
I remember the group games in 1994, some of them between non-descript countries, and the grounds were always packed out.
Despite the obvious distractions of American football, baseball, basketball, and ice hockey, the Yanks do love their "soccer" as they call it.
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Whats to stop the different federations coming together and boycotting FIFA to form their own governing body?
There is already a body for teams who are not affiliated with FIFA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederation_of_Independent_Football_Associations#List_of_members
Hmm, who's going to vote against the leading teams having the chance to share $1 billion+ prize money,?
The saying, money talks, no it doesn't, it shouts, it spits and it screams.
Oh BobG there'll be no elections anyway, cancelled, it's what fascists do.
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Hmm. I don't think the elections will be cancelled. Far too blatant. But they will be manipulated. Americans have done that for over a century. They've had a lot of practice. And this time they've got a bloke in charge who acts and sorts out his messes afterwards. With their silly legal processes everybody will have forgotten the original gerrymandering before the courts ever reach a definitive decision. He'll fix the result, but he won't cancel the elections.
BobG
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Hmm. I don't think the elections will be cancelled. Far too blatant. But they will be manipulated. Americans have done that for over a century. They've had a lot of practice. And this time they've got a bloke in charge who acts and sorts out his messes afterwards. With their silly legal processes everybody will have forgotten the original gerrymandering before the courts ever reach a definitive decision. He'll fix the result, but he won't cancel the elections.
BobG
Bullshit.
Anyway wouldn't want people there being jailed for speech or Trump ending trials by jury or cancelling elections due to government's incompetence.
Of course USA wouldn't have got the Finals without European votes. Anyone think it wasn't spoken of in meetings about extra money coming in if games were split to allow advertising breaks? Not made public but so what that's hardly new, anyway orange man bad.
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If I wrote bullshit, what's yours? Because this is clearly written by either a lunatic or an incoherent baby. When you learn to write, do let me know.
Cheers
BobG
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Theres a section for Politics. Keep it there.
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So, FIFA have acknowledged that they have set pricing wrong for the most loyal followers of their International teams and have introduced some much lower prices, but its all a PR stunt as it only applies to 10% of allocated tickets for each association, in England cas about 300 tickets.
https://thefsa.org.uk/news/fsa-statement-fifa-play-pr-games-on-ticket-prices/
FSA chair Tom Greatrex said:
“FIFA have a track record of announcing ‘affordable’ headline prices that, in reality, aren’t available to the vast majority of fans.
“This seems to be a new version of that with the intention of relieving pressure on FIFA without fixing things for the majority of supporters.
“This is a step in the right direction, as it shows changes for good can be made, but it still leaves 90% of loyal, hardcore supporters paying ridiculous prices.
“Rather than playing PR games FIFA needs to do the right thing and set prices at a reasonable price for all supporters, and FAs need to apply pressure on them to do just that.”
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I am struggling to understand concept of group 3rd places going into Round of 32. Winner and Runner Up from each of the 12 groups goes forward automatically, plus the "best" 8 teams from across all groups. Third place from the remaining 4 groups will miss out.
However, looking at the schedule, it seems that for example match 74, the best 3rd place will come from groups A,B,C,D or F. Similarly for match 77 it will come from C,D,F,G or H.
Looking at those combinations, groups E and I are eligible for 6 matches and F and J are eligible for 5. Groups K and L (Englands group) only appear once each. This seems rather biased.
Hypothetically, if groups E, F, I and J are not in the top 8, I can see a situation where by the time you get to matches 85 and 87 there will be no eligible teams left in the declared groupings.
Am I missing something?
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Have you seen the price of tickets for the World Cup games? The cheapest tickets for the England group games is expected to be around £198! When I went to the England v France game at the 1982 World Cup my ticket was £8. For the England v Kuwait game I paid £5 for a ticket. A pint was about 30p and our digs cost about £15 for the fortnight!