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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on December 10, 2025, 01:47:28 pm
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The first time I think I have posted that heading since starting these threads not having played them for quite a while and hardly the fixture I would have picked to follow our abject display last night against a side sitting four points clear at the top of the table.
A team with lots more resources than ourselves and players probably on wages that would pay half our weekly wage bill and at home in front of a big crowd that will expect nothing else but an easy day at the office and banking another three points at our expense.
I hope they do have that impression and our lads can stand up get last nights performance out of their system and play well and give it a go.
The frustrating thing is we are so much better than what we showed last night, want to reset and show our true ability as a team and not a lot of strangers thrown together the way we looked last night.
One mystery to me is Pearson, if nothing else our best defender centrally, lacking pace, but a proper defender around our own box. The same with Middleton is he as well not good enough to at least be in our match day squad?
Six months after signing both seem marginalised and out of the picture and if so along with others our preseason player acquisitions should very much be questioned.
Can we pull off that illusive shock result at Cardiff? while confidence can only be low in the squad. At our best of course we can, its getting the best out of the players that is proving problematical as well as playing our best players they need to show their best form and compete for every ball as our mobility and cohesion took a big hit last evening with little team play because of poor distribution often one touch and given away and players looking like strangers to each other.
So to me a big effort and reset of attitude is needed, the first thing is covering more ground Bailey again showing great effort again last night with others looking lethargic, the same up front with Sharp taking the game to them while others sit back.
So what do you think, me it is more about ourselves and our game than an obviously good Cardiff side. I want to see some controlled aggression and some team play, not just the odd flash, a better work ethic and some enthusiasm, all things I thought missing last night. We have showed those things in games earlier this season and need to get back on it.
What do you think, lots to mull over, lots to discuss, please have your say.
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This game wouldn't surprise me if we won, reminds me of Sunderland away a couple of years ago....home banker nailed on but we somehow won.
Important to note that they also play Chelsea on Tuesday in the League Cup Quarter Finals so lets hope some of their players have half an eye on that!
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Cardiff will expect us to sit back and they will be expecting to roll us over easily.
Need to shock them with quick attacks. Just like we did to bradford, get forward quickly and in numbers.
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Another routine defeat.
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This game wouldn't surprise me if we won, reminds me of Sunderland away a couple of years ago....home banker nailed on but we somehow won.
Important to note that they also play Chelsea on Tuesday in the League Cup Quarter Finals so lets hope some of their players have half an eye on that!
:headbang: Bring it on !!!
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Nobody has won until the game is lost Alan.
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Another routine defeat.
Thats it Alan, keep the optimism up.
Hope the players and managment dont have the same positive outlook.
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This game wouldn't surprise me if we won, reminds me of Sunderland away a couple of years ago....home banker nailed on but we somehow won.
Important to note that they also play Chelsea on Tuesday in the League Cup Quarter Finals so lets hope some of their players have half an eye on that!
I think the last game our lass came to was that Sunderland game, she's coming to Cardiff on Saturday!
Said on Tuesday Hanlan should be the opener, with Billy coming on fresh later, surely this will be the case on Saturday. Personally I'd rather see Middleton in the squad than Ajayi atm, if it's a case of one or the other. Same back four, I'm not convinced by Pearson yet tbh, Close or Crew in for the suspended George with Clifton starting again.
Let's go again!
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Another routine defeat.
Thats it Alan, keep the optimism up.
Hope the players and managment dont have the same positive outlook.
Optimism and positivity did us no good against Stockport (I went for a win myself), but no harm in being being realistic like Alan.
This match will be painful to watch. Feel free to tell me I am wrong AFTER the event, or accept that we are going to struggle until the next window. Then we will need far better signings than we had in the summer.
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It is wrong to equate realism with pessimism .Pessimism is more related to the person expressing an opinion than to the unknown future outcome .
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Here's the fact over the last 10 games in
league 1
Cardiff have 21 pts with a GD of +7. Top
Doncaster have 6pts and a GD of -9. Bottom
We all hope we can get a result BUT
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Another routine defeat.
Thats it Alan, keep the optimism up.
Hope the players and managment dont have the same positive outlook.
Optimism and positivity did us no good against Stockport (I went for a win myself), but no harm in being being realistic like Alan.
This match will be painful to watch. Feel free to tell me I am wrong AFTER the event, or accept that we are going to struggle until the next window. Then we will need far better signings than we had in the summer.
The absolute best judges and objective decision makers I’ve ever met in life (and in football and gambling) are never optimists, I can tell you that.
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Another routine defeat.
Thats it Alan, keep the optimism up.
Hope the players and managment dont have the same positive outlook.
Optimism and positivity did us no good against Stockport (I went for a win myself), but no harm in being being realistic like Alan.
This match will be painful to watch. Feel free to tell me I am wrong AFTER the event, or accept that we are going to struggle until the next window. Then we will need far better signings than we had in the summer.
The absolute best judges and objective decision makers I’ve ever met in life (and in football and gambling) are never optimists, I can tell you that.
Somehow I doubt whether adverse comments on here about our chances of winning have any real effect on the players. Decrying pessimism may seem honourable to some, but surely from the player perspective it amounts to a challenge to prove such people wrong.
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No side has won more home games or scored more home goals in League One than Cardiff City. They have won their last four home league games in a row, scoring 12 goals in doing so.
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I’m generally an optimist and always think we’ll have a good game until we don’t. I think we’ll be ok and comfortably stay up this season, I have full trust in GM to drag us up the table. But, realistically, Cardiff are probably the best team in this league, will almost certainly be a championship side next season and we will do well to avoid a battering on Saturday. Christmas miracles aside, I’d take a crappy, dour 0-0 at this moment in time! :santa:
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Salech scored 8 in 20 in the second half of the last Championship season and looks on course to be League One’s top scorer this season.
He cost them about £3 million. He’s 6 foot 5 and deadly in the box. Watch out for crosses!
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Does anyone have any parking tips? Although I went to the JPT final, this is my first trip to Cardiff City. Looking forward to the 4 hours each way drive :rtid:
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I would put my money on 10 minutes being their first goal against us, and it is just a matter of damage limitation from then on. Hopefully only 2-0.
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I think we need to accept we're playing against the odds and set up a much more pragmatic formation. They'll have the ball so I'd put us in a low block, play McGrath or Grehan with Pearson and Riordan as a centre three with wing backs from Maxwell, Sterry, Nixon and Senior who've all had strong seasons. Centre midfield three to hold the middle - Clifton has to start, with Crew no where near the pitch tomorrow. And play a proper 9 and 10 - Sharp or Hanlan, with Moly or Gibson tucked in behind. Keep it tight and make them work for space through the middle rather than roll through us as if we're not there.
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Cardiff fan in peace.
Best free place to park is Brindley Road - It is a 20 minute walk to the away end.
-Brindley Road
- Turn Left onto Hadfield Road
-Turn Right onto Bessemer Road
-At the end of Bessemer Road turn left onto sloper road
- Walk down past the Bus Depot and the burger vans and turn left into Clos Parc Morganwwg and into the away end
Coming home then you will be able to left onto Hadfield road and all way to the roundabout onto the A4232 which will take you to the M4
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Cardiff fan in peace.
Best free place to park is Brindley Road - It is a 20 minute walk to the away end.
-Brindley Road
- Turn Left onto Hadfield Road
-Turn Right onto Bessemer Road
-At the end of Bessemer Road turn left onto sloper road
- Walk down past the Bus Depot and the burger vans and turn left into Clos Parc Morganwwg and into the away end
Coming home then you will be able to left onto Hadfield road and all way to the roundabout onto the A4232 which will take you to the M4
Which pubs would you recommend for after? Me & the Mrs staying over, love a bit of live music, a quick look shows live lounge or Brewhouse?
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Cardiff fan in peace.
Best free place to park is Brindley Road - It is a 20 minute walk to the away end.
-Brindley Road
- Turn Left onto Hadfield Road
-Turn Right onto Bessemer Road
-At the end of Bessemer Road turn left onto sloper road
- Walk down past the Bus Depot and the burger vans and turn left into Clos Parc Morganwwg and into the away end
Coming home then you will be able to left onto Hadfield road and all way to the roundabout onto the A4232 which will take you to the M4
Which pubs would you recommend for after? Me & the Mrs staying over, love a bit of live music, a quick look shows live lounge or Brewhouse?
I went to uni in Cardiff.
Head to Live Lounge. Usually a live band on until late then the DJ just plays indie / rock anthems until the early hours of the morning. Class.
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Henry Africas the night before the JPT final. Absolutely class.
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Henry Africas the night before the JPT final. Absolutely class.
Wow thats a blast from the past
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Does anyone have any parking tips? Although I went to the JPT final, this is my first trip to Cardiff City. Looking forward to the 4 hours each way drive :rtid:
just park app, 7 quid for 4 hrs, 12 mins walk
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Play like we can with control, play the game and not the occasion and keep focussed and we can give the best in this division a game. We have weakness's and strengths like every team and we need to play to our strengths and minimise our weakness's, and find the oppositions weak points, which they have as well.
All good and bad runs of results come to an end and we are capable of ending their good run, some of our best performances last season were away to top teams in the division.
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If we can play and compete like we did at Stevenage we will give them a good game.
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Cardiff fan in peace.
Best free place to park is Brindley Road - It is a 20 minute walk to the away end.
-Brindley Road
- Turn Left onto Hadfield Road
-Turn Right onto Bessemer Road
-At the end of Bessemer Road turn left onto sloper road
- Walk down past the Bus Depot and the burger vans and turn left into Clos Parc Morganwwg and into the away end
Coming home then you will be able to left onto Hadfield road and all way to the roundabout onto the A4232 which will take you to the M4
Which pubs would you recommend for after? Me & the Mrs staying over, love a bit of live music, a quick look shows live lounge or Brewhouse?
I went to uni in Cardiff.
Head to Live Lounge. Usually a live band on until late then the DJ just plays indie / rock anthems until the early hours of the morning. Class.
Late is possible, not done early hours for a food few years lol.
Cheers.
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Temple Bar - Castle end of st mary street - Irish bar style singers
Live Lounge - Bands but will be pretty busy
Brewhouse - Bands but will be pretty busy
There are some pretty cool bars in Cardiff
Head of Steam is pretty good, botanist. Mill lane and St Mary Street are the streets to go to , you will find something you like.
I would avoid the wetherspoons unless you feel taking on a valley commando coked out of their brain.
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Cheers for that Devils.
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Please Grant, show the first 15 minutes of the St. Johnstone v Ayr game. I illustrates exactly what Rovers should be doing tomorrow!
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We could well be in the bottom four by 5pm
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We could well be in the bottom four by 5pm
The past two seasons should’ve taught you Filo that it’s where we are at the end of the season that matters, not where we are in December!
We must get results against Plymouth and Blackpool since we have a tough run after that against Stockport, Bolton, Luton then the Southampton FA Cup game
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We could well be in the bottom four by 5pm
The past two seasons should’ve taught you Filo that it’s where we are at the end of the season that matters, not where we are in December!
We must get results against Plymouth and Blackpool since we have a tough run after that against Stockport, Bolton, Luton then the Southampton FA Cup game
You are right but that’s becoming a defence for poor performances in the first half of the season. Points before Christmas are worth the same as those after.
It’s becoming a bit of a smoke and mirrors situation, a bit like Baz Ball in the cricket. Feels like it takes away a bit of the accountability for the current situation.
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We could well be in the bottom four by 5pm
The past two seasons should’ve taught you Filo that it’s where we are at the end of the season that matters, not where we are in December!
We must get results against Plymouth and Blackpool since we have a tough run after that against Stockport, Bolton, Luton then the Southampton FA Cup game
The past two seasons are the exception, not the norm, still I hope you’re right
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We could well be in the bottom four by 5pm
The past two seasons should’ve taught you Filo that it’s where we are at the end of the season that matters, not where we are in December!
We must get results against Plymouth and Blackpool since we have a tough run after that against Stockport, Bolton, Luton then the Southampton FA Cup game
You are right but that’s becoming a defence for poor performances in the first half of the season. Points before Christmas are worth the same as those after.
It’s becoming a bit of a smoke and mirrors situation, a bit like Baz Ball in the cricket. Feels like it takes away a bit of the accountability for the current situation.
Is that your final summation as ‘Lead Prosecutor’ or do we have more to come from you to wring our hands over.
Scratch that, of course we will.
Who’s next to be called to the witness box?
We’ve had the recruitment team, team formation, tactics, timing of substitutions, player’s contracts etc., etc.
Wrong manager?
C.V. up to date?
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Dick head.
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Today we are playing a big city team with the resources and set up to easily play in the division above.
They are clear at the top of the division and one of the best form teams.
We are bottom of the division form team and are not scoring goals easily and are prone at the other end to letting them in mostly because of individual mistakes.
On the up side we can play some good football and should be a few points better off thanks to poor decisions not giving us clear penalties that could well have won us the games earlier in the season.
One thing for certain today our players need to be on it to compete, if they are getting something out of the game is not beyond us.
Its up to us to prove it.
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On today I think we could be a bit of value. +1 Donny on the Asian handicap could be ok. It’s the kind of game that should suit us. Cardiff likely to have possession which will hopefully give us opportunities to nick the ball back off them high and capitalise on that.
It does feel like an important game. Grant gave the players the big kick up the arse speech in the week. Certainly feels like some home truths were aired. Hope there is a response.
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Please Grant, show the first 15 minutes of the St. Johnstone v Ayr game. I illustrates exactly what Rovers should be doing tomorrow!
thought the last 45 mins were quite good too. Nice to see a centre forward with pace, power and determination.
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On today I think we could be a bit of value. +1 Donny on the Asian handicap could be ok. It’s the kind of game that should suit us. Cardiff likely to have possession which will hopefully give us opportunities to nick the ball back off them high and capitalise on that.
It does feel like an important game. Grant gave the players the big kick up the arse speech in the week. Certainly feels like some home truths were aired. Hope there is a response.
Bit of a strange line up with 4 central midfielders.
Will it be 4 diamond 2? 352 with Clifton at right wing back? Not sure. Don’t think we needed a shape change particularly.
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On today I think we could be a bit of value. +1 Donny on the Asian handicap could be ok. It’s the kind of game that should suit us. Cardiff likely to have possession which will hopefully give us opportunities to nick the ball back off them high and capitalise on that.
It does feel like an important game. Grant gave the players the big kick up the arse speech in the week. Certainly feels like some home truths were aired. Hope there is a response.
Some players need to stand up snd prove themselves, grant has shown faith in some who need to reward him for that faith.
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Surely more like Clifton supporting Hanlan. More likely then three at back and five across middle with Maxwell and Molyneux wing backs.
One thing is for certain, experimenting away at the strongest slide in League One when we are on a poor run of form, is either genius or madness.
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Surely more like Clifton supporting Hanlan. More likely then three at back and five across middle with Maxwell and Molyneux wing backs.
One thing is for certain, experimenting way at the strongest slide in League One when we are on a poor run of form, is either genius or madness.
I'll take a change quite happily. What we was doing before didnt work against lesser side, then they wouldnt of worked today.
If i doesnt work out, cant say grant hasnt tried
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Surely more like Clifton supporting Hanlan. More likely then three at back and five across middle with Maxwell and Molyneux wing backs.
One thing is for certain, experimenting way at the strongest slide in League One when we are on a poor run of form, is either genius or madness.
I'll take a change quite happily. What we was doing before didnt work against lesser side, then they wouldnt of worked today.
If i doesnt work out, cant say grant hasnt tried
You took the words right out of my mouth.
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He's got the ability to very easily change shape entirely - Sterry on for Grehan, and Gibson on for Close.
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Dick head.
That’s harsh.
I wouldn’t go so far as to call him that.
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Ricky Charlesworth reckons it could be a back four, with Grehan at right back.
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Ricky Charlesworth reckons it could be a back four, with Grehan at right back.
Grehan is no right back, seems like suicide against the top of the league
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Today we are playing a team that has recently been in the
Prem.
Took liverpool to a penalty shootout in the league cup
Made the FA cup final.
I know it a totally different set of players and manager, but it shows the gulf in size of cluns and resources.
This season cardiff have got it right with the managment, which was probably their fault last season
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Yess! One up from Owen Bailey
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Don't think Blackburn will be recalling O'Riordan he's had a stinker today
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All the back four have been horrendous. in the first half and start of the second. But in fairness if you put both defences together today you would be hard pushed to sort a decent one out of the lot of them
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Interesting. Any suggestion for someone who could come in and improve our defence?
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Think that might have been one to save rather than parry out.
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We should have no complaints today against Cardiff , it was at our best performance and still with one hand tied behind our backs all season .. without a goal threat . Hanlan is growing into his job but it the lack of choice we’ve been suffering from !!loose 4-3 is our bad luck !!
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That was gut wrenching. We did not deserve to lose that. Great performance but silly mistakes costing us yet again. We desperately need reinforcements this window and not just a goal scorer. Still fuming.
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That's as hard loss to take, whenever you go away and score three goals you shouldn't be coming away with nothing.
The game was there to be won and unfortunately we didnt, we had many good chances and scored some good goals but if you cant keep them out at the other end this is what happens. Our defenceive line is very brittle again and we seem short of a leader, TLT, what can you say, it looks like our coaching is making him worse, whoever thought it was the thing to do to punch and parry shots away has done keepers no favours whatsoever. We need better.
The extra min the ref added onto the extra time for Close killed us. We lost the match in the first and last mins of the second half, our concentration levels need attention. That should of been a hard won point.
We should take the positives from the game and look very deeply at the negatives, we need as a minimum better concentration from the lads, points thrown away again.
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On today I think we could be a bit of value. +1 Donny on the Asian handicap could be ok. It’s the kind of game that should suit us. Cardiff likely to have possession which will hopefully give us opportunities to nick the ball back off them high and capitalise on that.
It does feel like an important game. Grant gave the players the big kick up the arse speech in the week. Certainly feels like some home truths were aired. Hope there is a response.
Grant said in his interview that “nobody saw us getting close to them”. I did Grant.
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Dick head.
I thought GazLaz was your mate?