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Title: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: TonySoprano on December 29, 2025, 10:27:00 pm
Absolutely huge transfer window needed to keep us up.

Then an inquiry as to why the summer recruitment was so horrifically bad, to make sure dont repeat it next summer.

Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: Ryaldinhio on December 29, 2025, 10:38:00 pm
Absolutely huge transfer window needed to keep us up.

Then an inquiry as to why the summer recruitment was so horrifically bad, to make sure dont repeat it next summer.

We have needed the last 2 Jan transfer windows to sort our seasons out. Im hoping this one is the same but Im not confident.

We need:
2 x L1/champ CBs
1x L1/champ CM
1 x L1 striker (semi prolific) or lower but very prolific.

This wont happen.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: mushRTID on December 29, 2025, 10:40:16 pm
Absolutely huge transfer window needed to keep us up.

Then an inquiry as to why the summer recruitment was so horrifically bad, to make sure dont repeat it next summer.

We have needed the last 2 Jan transfer windows to sort our seasons out. Im hoping this one is the same but Im not confident.

We need:
2 x L1/champ CBs
1x L1/champ CM
1 x L1 striker (semi prolific) or lower but very prolific.

This wont happen.

We also need another L1 winger as Gibson is not cutting it.

I agree with your last comment we have too much work to do to rectify a dreadful summer.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: Petche on December 29, 2025, 10:42:09 pm
Can we do enough to get 5th bottom? That's the aim now!
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: NickDRFC on December 29, 2025, 10:49:13 pm
Feels really grim at the moment. I like McCann but can’t say I have any faith in him turning things around.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: Sven Vath on December 29, 2025, 11:04:02 pm
I don't think we are that far away, even the bookies had us down at 3/1 tonight, even after the form we are on. We have to stick with Grant. For me we are desperate for a CB and someone upfront at a minimum.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: Ryaldinhio on December 29, 2025, 11:30:18 pm
Absolutely huge transfer window needed to keep us up.

Then an inquiry as to why the summer recruitment was so horrifically bad, to make sure dont repeat it next summer.

We have needed the last 2 Jan transfer windows to sort our seasons out. Im hoping this one is the same but Im not confident.

We need:
2 x L1/champ CBs
1x L1/champ CM
1 x L1 striker (semi prolific) or lower but very prolific.

This wont happen.

We also need another L1 winger as Gibson is not cutting it.

I agree with your last comment we have too much work to do to rectify a dreadful summer.

I personally think Middleton is a great winger but has no one to supply. If we get the right man in upfront we will be fine with Moly, Gibson and Middleton.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: oggycompton on December 29, 2025, 11:42:23 pm
You may be pleasantly surprised on January the 1st
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: donnievic on December 30, 2025, 12:22:15 am
I know it’s another defeat but again not a lot between the sides tonight and abit more luck which event getting and it could of been a different story

On another note the away was the best it’s been all season from start to finish
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: In the box on December 30, 2025, 12:32:01 am
I know it’s another defeat but again not a lot between the sides tonight and abit more luck which event getting and it could of been a different story

On another note the away was the best it’s been all season from start to finish
We are trying to compete against more experienced teams who have the edge over naive younger light weight players . We are not underperforming, we just can’t raise our game any higher that all !!
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on December 30, 2025, 03:27:40 am
I don’t see the chairman sitting on his hands over January, I have faith he will back his manager, but it can’t be wasted what he gets.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: andy didcott on December 30, 2025, 05:54:04 am
You may be pleasantly surprised on January the 1st
Come on then oggy, spill the beans.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: Alan Southstand on December 30, 2025, 09:06:25 am
It seems to have gone from ‘2 definately signed on 1st Jan’ to ‘we’re working hard to get 2 in’.

????
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: aidanstu on December 30, 2025, 09:15:05 am
Why is it that you always want to create a new thread spinning some negative rhetoric?; call yourself a fan?
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: Ian Nimmo on December 30, 2025, 09:32:13 am
Why is it that you always want to create a new thread spinning some negative rhetoric?; call yourself a fan?

Whilst I don’t always agree with many of the posts by TS, with this one he is totally correct.
This window is going to be huge for us, one signing is not going to make a huge difference, we need at least 3 quality players.
Also the management/coaching team do need to carry out a detailed look at last summers recruitment, which has turned out to be poor and not in line with what Grant always states is the major objective in that we bring players in who will improve the team.

Therefore TS is only stating what I believe many on here probably agree with.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: aidanstu on December 30, 2025, 10:12:34 am
Why is it that you always want to create a new thread spinning some negative rhetoric?; call yourself a fan?

Whilst I don’t always agree with many of the posts by TS, with this one he is totally correct.
This window is going to be huge for us, one signing is not going to make a huge difference, we need at least 3 quality players.
Also the management/coaching team do need to carry out a detailed look at last summers recruitment, which has turned out to be poor and not in line with what Grant always states is the major objective in that we bring players in who will improve the team.

Therefore TS is only stating what I believe many on here probably agree with.


I accept that many of the signings haven’t turned out as we would have expected them too but in reality who would have.turned down the likes of crew, ajayi and lo-tutala? Given either their previous spells with us or what Ajayi had achieved the previous year. It’s lazy just to say recruitment is the issue. This forum were praising the signings when they were made. Hindsight is an exact science.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: TonySoprano on December 30, 2025, 11:18:48 am
Why is it that you always want to create a new thread spinning some negative rhetoric?; call yourself a fan?

Spin?  I dont need to spin anything. The facts speak for themselves
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: i_ateallthepies on December 30, 2025, 11:43:26 am
Why is it that you always want to create a new thread spinning some negative rhetoric?; call yourself a fan?

Whilst I don’t always agree with many of the posts by TS, with this one he is totally correct.
This window is going to be huge for us, one signing is not going to make a huge difference, we need at least 3 quality players.
Also the management/coaching team do need to carry out a detailed look at last summers recruitment, which has turned out to be poor and not in line with what Grant always states is the major objective in that we bring players in who will improve the team.

Therefore TS is only stating what I believe many on here probably agree with.


I accept that many of the signings haven’t turned out as we would have expected them too but in reality who would have.turned down the likes of crew, ajayi and lo-tutala? Given either their previous spells with us or what Ajayi had achieved the previous year. It’s lazy just to say recruitment is the issue. This forum were praising the signings when they were made. Hindsight is an exact science.

You're talking about what fans thought of the summer signings at the time, that really isn't the point though is it.  Who fans thing might be good really means nothing but the people employed as professionals to identify the talent needed should reasonably be expected to know with a reasonable degree of certainty who is and isn't suitable.  The evidence of our summer signings suggests very strongly that they aren't up to the job.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on December 30, 2025, 12:58:17 pm
Absolutely huge transfer window needed to keep us up.

Then an inquiry as to why the summer recruitment was so horrifically bad, to make sure dont repeat it next summer.

We have needed the last 2 Jan transfer windows to sort our seasons out. Im hoping this one is the same but Im not confident.

We need:
2 x L1/champ CBs
1x L1/champ CM
1 x L1 striker (semi prolific) or lower but very prolific.

This wont happen.

We also need another L1 winger as Gibson is not cutting it.

I agree with your last comment we have too much work to do to rectify a dreadful summer.

I personally think Middleton is a great winger but has no one to supply. If we get the right man in upfront we will be fine with Moly, Gibson and Middleton.

When one-on-one with a full back, I'm struggling to think of any Rovers player I've seen since Ian Miller who I would bet on to get to the line and put a good cross in more often than Middleton.

Wooton would have scored a dozen goals from Middleton's crosses by now.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 30, 2025, 01:02:34 pm
Soprano aka Ghosh - expected this thread tbh
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: BigH on December 30, 2025, 01:16:33 pm
You may be pleasantly surprised on January the 1st
Come on then oggy, spill the beans.
I’m guessing Mbappe…
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: GazLaz on December 30, 2025, 01:30:08 pm
Soprano aka Ghosh - expected this thread tbh


Soprano certainly isn’t Mr Ghosh.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: Arksey rover on December 30, 2025, 02:18:10 pm
Yes he is
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: Rupee92ONLY on December 30, 2025, 02:59:02 pm
Can we stop with the accusing me of being Tony Soprano?

It isn’t me. Please Mods confirm.

Anyone could’ve looked in the time on Twitter and saw that a lot of Tony Soprano’s views on here, don’t necessarily match up with what I fully think. Some do. But I am hardly going to argue with Martin O’Hara on the budget am I? When I have defended Bramall this past year for fronting up more money on the playing side again. McCann has wasted a good budget, simple as that for me.

The only account I have had on here the last few years is ‘TixTheBox’. I liked Gazlaz’s post as I asked him to let people know Tony Soprano account isn’t me. I haven’t had posting rights on here for a few years (which i’m not fussed about). I only stayed logged in on the account to read the rumour mill and like posts.

Made this account just to stop the nonsense that I am a poster, when i’m really not. It’s been numerous times now. I sit in the family stand at home games, I am really not arsed about goading people on here like it’s 2018.

Please pass this post through the moderation and then by all means remove posting rights to this account too if you want to.

 
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: TonySoprano on December 30, 2025, 03:20:07 pm
Oh no im not  :laugh:
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: CJK on December 30, 2025, 04:00:42 pm
Absolutely huge transfer window needed to keep us up.

Then an inquiry as to why the summer recruitment was so horrifically bad, to make sure dont repeat it next summer.

We have needed the last 2 Jan transfer windows to sort our seasons out. Im hoping this one is the same but Im not confident.

We need:
2 x L1/champ CBs
1x L1/champ CM
1 x L1 striker (semi prolific) or lower but very prolific.

This wont happen.

We also need another L1 winger as Gibson is not cutting it.

I agree with your last comment we have too much work to do to rectify a dreadful summer.

I personally think Middleton is a great winger but has no one to supply. If we get the right man in upfront we will be fine with Moly, Gibson and Middleton.

When one-on-one with a full back, I'm struggling to think of any Rovers player I've seen since Ian Miller who I would bet on to get to the line and put a good cross in more often than Middleton.

Wooton would have scored a dozen goals from Middleton's crosses by now.

McIndoe? But not many others.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: aidanstu on December 30, 2025, 04:07:07 pm
Why is it that you always want to create a new thread spinning some negative rhetoric?; call yourself a fan?

Whilst I don’t always agree with many of the posts by TS, with this one he is totally correct.
This window is going to be huge for us, one signing is not going to make a huge difference, we need at least 3 quality players.
Also the management/coaching team do need to carry out a detailed look at last summers recruitment, which has turned out to be poor and not in line with what Grant always states is the major objective in that we bring players in who will improve the team.

Therefore TS is only stating what I believe many on here probably agree with.


I accept that many of the signings haven’t turned out as we would have expected them too but in reality who would have.turned down the likes of crew, ajayi and lo-tutala? Given either their previous spells with us or what Ajayi had achieved the previous year. It’s lazy just to say recruitment is the issue. This forum were praising the signings when they were made. Hindsight is an exact science.

You're talking about what fans thought of the summer signings at the time, that really isn't the point though is it.  Who fans thing might be good really means nothing but the people employed as professionals to identify the talent needed should reasonably be expected to know with a reasonable degree of certainty who is and isn't suitable.  The evidence of our summer signings suggests very strongly that they aren't up to the job.

Do you honestly believe what you’re spouting? Two of the lads brought in had great records when here the first time round so why wouldn’t any one think they would do a job again with more experience under their belt?

As for the scouting system
Should know better there are clubs bigger and far better then us that repeatedly get recruitment wrong; Isak, Wirz at Liverpool two name two. You can’t fully judge a player until they are integrated but for some reason you and a few others think we should have appointed oracles into our scouting system.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: scawsby steve on December 30, 2025, 04:59:38 pm
Why is it that you always want to create a new thread spinning some negative rhetoric?; call yourself a fan?

Whilst I don’t always agree with many of the posts by TS, with this one he is totally correct.
This window is going to be huge for us, one signing is not going to make a huge difference, we need at least 3 quality players.
Also the management/coaching team do need to carry out a detailed look at last summers recruitment, which has turned out to be poor and not in line with what Grant always states is the major objective in that we bring players in who will improve the team.

Therefore TS is only stating what I believe many on here probably agree with.


I accept that many of the signings haven’t turned out as we would have expected them too but in reality who would have.turned down the likes of crew, ajayi and lo-tutala? Given either their previous spells with us or what Ajayi had achieved the previous year. It’s lazy just to say recruitment is the issue. This forum were praising the signings when they were made. Hindsight is an exact science.

You're talking about what fans thought of the summer signings at the time, that really isn't the point though is it.  Who fans thing might be good really means nothing but the people employed as professionals to identify the talent needed should reasonably be expected to know with a reasonable degree of certainty who is and isn't suitable.  The evidence of our summer signings suggests very strongly that they aren't up to the job.

Do you honestly believe what you’re spouting? Two of the lads brought in had great records when here the first time round so why wouldn’t any one think they would do a job again with more experience under their belt?

As for the scouting system
Should know better there are clubs bigger and far better then us that repeatedly get recruitment wrong; Isak, Wirz at Liverpool two name two. You can’t fully judge a player until they are integrated but for some reason you and a few others think we should have appointed oracles into our scouting system.

So if it's not recruitment, who are you holding responsible for the utterly disgraceful results sequence of the past 16 games?
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: grayx on December 30, 2025, 05:54:51 pm
Absolutely huge transfer window needed to keep us up.

Then an inquiry as to why the summer recruitment was so horrifically bad, to make sure dont repeat it next summer.

We have needed the last 2 Jan transfer windows to sort our seasons out. Im hoping this one is the same but Im not confident.

We need:
2 x L1/champ CBs
1x L1/champ CM
1 x L1 striker (semi prolific) or lower but very prolific.

This wont happen.

We also need another L1 winger as Gibson is not cutting it.

I agree with your last comment we have too much work to do to rectify a dreadful summer.
Absolutely huge transfer window needed to keep us up.

Then an inquiry as to why the summer recruitment was so horrifically bad, to make sure dont repeat it next summer.

We have needed the last 2 Jan transfer windows to sort our seasons out. Im hoping this one is the same but Im not confident.

We need:
2 x L1/champ CBs
1x L1/champ CM
1 x L1 striker (semi prolific) or lower but very prolific.

This wont happen.

We also need another L1 winger as Gibson is not cutting it.
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Gibson can be good enough but he is so inconsistent. I struggle to understand why Middleton isnt used more when Gibsons having an “off day”
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 30, 2025, 07:46:11 pm
Absolutely huge transfer window needed to keep us up.

Then an inquiry as to why the summer recruitment was so horrifically bad, to make sure dont repeat it next summer.

We have needed the last 2 Jan transfer windows to sort our seasons out. Im hoping this one is the same but Im not confident.

We need:
2 x L1/champ CBs
1x L1/champ CM
1 x L1 striker (semi prolific) or lower but very prolific.

This wont happen.

We also need another L1 winger as Gibson is not cutting it.

I agree with your last comment we have too much work to do to rectify a dreadful summer.

I personally think Middleton is a great winger but has no one to supply. If we get the right man in upfront we will be fine with Moly, Gibson and Middleton.

When one-on-one with a full back, I'm struggling to think of any Rovers player I've seen since Ian Miller who I would bet on to get to the line and put a good cross in more often than Middleton.

Wooton would have scored a dozen goals from Middleton's crosses by now.

McIndoe? But not many others.

Muicky Stead (jk)
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 30, 2025, 07:57:11 pm
McIndoe, Stevie Harper, Andy Watson, Copps!
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: drfchound on December 30, 2025, 08:07:56 pm
Cotterill
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: Lesonthewest on December 31, 2025, 12:42:09 am
Absolutely huge transfer window needed to keep us up.

Then an inquiry as to why the summer recruitment was so horrifically bad, to make sure dont repeat it next summer.

We have needed the last 2 Jan transfer windows to sort our seasons out. Im hoping this one is the same but Im not confident.

We need:
2 x L1/champ CBs
1x L1/champ CM
1 x L1 striker (semi prolific) or lower but very prolific.

This wont happen.

We also need another L1 winger as Gibson is not cutting it.

I agree with your last comment we have too much work to do to rectify a dreadful summer.

I personally think Middleton is a great winger but has no one to supply. If we get the right man in upfront we will be fine with Moly, Gibson and Middleton.

When one-on-one with a full back, I'm struggling to think of any Rovers player I've seen since Ian Miller who I would bet on to get to the line and put a good cross in more often than Middleton.

Wooton would have scored a dozen goals from Middleton's crosses by now.

Absolutely this. We either choose not to play him, or play him when we know there will be nobody anywhere near his crosses. Think Gotts benefitted a couple of times in a previous game?. Makes we wonder, if we knew his strengths before signing him, why are we not utilising them. I'd say 8 times out of 10 his crosses are bang on the money. John Buckley was a great winger, crossers 0not the best though.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: RoseTInteD on December 31, 2025, 09:05:41 am
As Pie says "the people employed as professionals to identify the talent needed should reasonably be expected to know with a reasonable degree of certainty who is and isn't suitable", and we are trusting the same people to do the January signings!!??  God help us. There will be plenty to say in May if things don't improve and all last year's hard work will have been undone.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: RoseTInteD on December 31, 2025, 09:17:52 am
I found it very interesting what the Stockport game commentator had to say about Rovers. Doncaster have a lot of talent in the squad but for some reason they are not joined up. Assuming he is right, I don't know if that is the manager's fault or the players are not listening.   
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 31, 2025, 09:24:27 am
Thought their commentators were very good and surprisingly more than fair to us.
Title: Re: 5 losses in a row and 1 win in 16
Post by: LincsRover on December 31, 2025, 09:42:36 am
Very true - they said they were surprised at how good we were for the position we are in. According to them the penalty was “as soft as they come” and when we equalised at 2-2 they also said they could only see one team going on  to win….just before they scored their third.  :facepalm: :facepalm: