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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: scawsby steve on January 22, 2026, 02:44:48 pm
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Sounds imminent, according to GM's comments in the DFP.
It will be a loanee, but one experienced enough to go straight into the first team.
Sounds promising. Let's hope for the best.
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Tom McIntyre?
Was on loan to Bradford first half of season but went back to Pompey last week.
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Ricardo Santos?
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No. I believe he’s going to Reading.
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Tom McIntyre is my guess.
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Tom McIntyre is my guess.
Loan cut short by Bradford at halfway point of season. "He managed just two minutes over their last seven matches, while started three league fixtures overall in a campaign which currently sees the team sitting in third place.”
Not glowing, but we’ll give him a chance if it is.
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Got turned inside out by our attack in the Vertu trophy game. Other than that their fans weren't sure why he didn't get more opportunities. Reasonable experience at our level.
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Ricardo Santos?
No. I believe he’s going to Reading.
Move to Reading fell through after he failed his medical. Bolton were going to take him, but said that they needed someone match fit...
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Tom McIntyre is my guess.
Loan cut short by Bradford at halfway point of season. "He managed just two minutes over their last seven matches, while started three league fixtures overall in a campaign which currently sees the team sitting in third place.”
Not glowing, but we’ll give him a chance if it is.
This article was written before today's events. Alexander quite positive about him. All speculation of course.
Promotion-hunting Bradford hopeful Portsmouth won't intervene over Tom McIntyre https://share.google/azt9hxjWGFZwZk2vM
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Fell out with Alexander apparently
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Fell out with Alexander apparently
Not according to the article above...
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Fell out with Alexander apparently
Not according to the article above...
According to some Bradford fans I know
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Well I've no idea who we might be signing, but if he's not precisely like the picture I've created in my head of what we need, I'm writing him off.
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Well I've no idea who we might be signing, but if he's not precisely like the picture I've created in my head of what we need, I'm writing him off.
Can you describe that picture.... :unsure:
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Well I've no idea who we might be signing, but if he's not precisely like the picture I've created in my head of what we need, I'm writing him off.
Can you describe that picture.... :unsure:
Brunette, 5'5", 32DD, size 10, must versatile in all positions
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Well I've no idea who we might be signing, but if he's not precisely like the picture I've created in my head of what we need, I'm writing him off.
Can you describe that picture.... :unsure:
Brunette, 5'5", 32DD, size 10, must versatile in all positions
Is she two footed...?
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Well I've no idea who we might be signing, but if he's not precisely like the picture I've created in my head of what we need, I'm writing him off.
Can you describe that picture.... :unsure:
Brunette, 5'5", 32DD, size 10, must versatile in all positions
Well I've no idea who we might be signing, but if he's not precisely like the picture I've created in my head of what we need, I'm writing him off.
Can you describe that picture.... :unsure:
Brunette, 5'5", 32DD, size 10, must versatile in all positions
Is she two footed...?
Rules Heather Mills out
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Well I've no idea who we might be signing, but if he's not precisely like the picture I've created in my head of what we need, I'm writing him off.
I do the same, but in my head it's a Youtube montage set to poorly mixed mid 00s landfill indie music. Bloody shite Bramhall.
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Well I've no idea who we might be signing, but if he's not precisely like the picture I've created in my head of what we need, I'm writing him off.
Can you describe that picture.... :unsure:
Brunette, 5'5", 32DD, size 10, must versatile in all positions
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Well I've no idea who we might be signing, but if he's not precisely like the picture I've created in my head of what we need, I'm writing him off.
Can you describe that picture.... :unsure:
Brunette, 5'5", 32DD, size 10, must versatile in all positions
Ann Widdicombe?
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Well I've no idea who we might be signing, but if he's not precisely like the picture I've created in my head of what we need, I'm writing him off.
Can you describe that picture.... :unsure:
Brunette, 5'5", 32DD, size 10, must versatile in all positions
Ann Widdicombe?
She is 4feet 2 inches.
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Well I've no idea who we might be signing, but if he's not precisely like the picture I've created in my head of what we need, I'm writing him off.
Can you describe that picture.... :unsure:
Brunette, 5'5", 32DD, size 10, must versatile in all positions
Versatile
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Well I've no idea who we might be signing, but if he's not precisely like the picture I've created in my head of what we need, I'm writing him off.
Can you describe that picture.... :unsure:
Brunette, 5'5", 32DD, size 10, must versatile in all positions
Ann Widdicombe?
She is 4feet 2 inches.
Better for a blow job position. Especially when she takes her teeth out.
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Signing in time for tomorrow?
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What’s the cut off time
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Tom McIntyre?
Was on loan to Bradford first half of season but went back to Pompey last week.
Just looked at his Wikipedia page, he currently has 160 victories on Warzone, whatever that is, so sounds like he’s up for a battle!
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Tom McIntyre is my guess.
Loan cut short by Bradford at halfway point of season. "He managed just two minutes over their last seven matches, while started three league fixtures overall in a campaign which currently sees the team sitting in third place.”
Not glowing, but we’ll give him a chance if it is.
Yes, our fans are renowned for giving players a chance lol.
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I don't care of their age or where they are from. Our priority for me should be someone who dominates in the air, we really miss that Tom Anderson type player. We don't need fancy football back there just good solid defenders.
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Whilst I'm inclined to agree with "we just need a presence type at the back" I'm not so sure its that simple.
I would like to see the stats on who has the ball at their feet the most, I think it will be the defenders. - someone will have these stats I'm sure.
Teams are now very good at pinpointing who is the worst with the ball in any given team, this results in them leaving said player to have the ball
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I don't care of their age or where they are from. Our priority for me should be someone who dominates in the air, we really miss that Tom Anderson type player. We don't need fancy football back there just good solid defenders.
Think Pearson is 93rd percentile for headers won %age.
Signing payers is more nuanced than that for sure.
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Lincoln are apparently signing a CH to allow Lewis Montsma 6’3” defender to leave on loan, given our liking of a Lincoln loan could this be the one, very experienced
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Lincoln are apparently signing a CH to allow Lewis Montsma 6’3” defender to leave on loan, given our liking of a Lincoln loan could this be the one, very experienced
But hasn't played since 1 November... has had a few injury issues I understand.
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I sincerely hope our new centre back is left footed. I don’t think I need to explain why.
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Hes had 2 ACL injuries since 2020. Do we gamble on a player with that record?
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Lincoln are apparently signing a CH to allow Lewis Montsma 6’3” defender to leave on loan, given our liking of a Lincoln loan could this be the one, very experienced
Never been a fan really. Maybe Lincoln are signing Elerewe from Bromley. He’s signing for a L1 club for cash.
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I’ve absolutely no idea who it is going to be, just seen that Lincoln are signing a new CH and are looking to loan him out for game time, nothing more than that
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I’d rather we signed the Bromley lad! At least he’s fit.
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I’d rather we signed the Bromley lad! At least he’s fit.
He will be moving for a pretty big fee.
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I sincerely hope our new centre back is left footed. I don’t think I need to explain why.
Is this to restore some sort of religious balance in the team????
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I’ve absolutely no idea who it is going to be, just seen that Lincoln are signing a new CH and are looking to loan him out for game time, nothing more than that
Byron Webster...?
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I’d rather we signed the Bromley lad! At least he’s fit.
He will be moving for a pretty big fee.
Yes, we don’t do big fees, do we?
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I’d rather we signed the Bromley lad! At least he’s fit.
He will be moving for a pretty big fee.
Yes, we don’t do big fees, do we?
TBF Lincoln don't generally either.... but there is some cash injection there...
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Lincoln are apparently signing a CH to allow Lewis Montsma 6’3” defender to leave on loan, given our liking of a Lincoln loan could this be the one, very experienced
Never been a fan really. Maybe Lincoln are signing Elerewe from Bromley. He’s signing for a L1 club for cash.
What’s Montsma like? Sounds like a ball playing defender but he’s not actually that experienced and that’s what Grant said this signing would be.
Only 129 appearances all comps at 27.
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I sincerely hope our new centre back is left footed. I don’t think I need to explain why.
Is this to restore some sort of religious balance in the team????
that’s gone way over my head flower. Absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
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Lincoln are apparently signing a CH to allow Lewis Montsma 6’3” defender to leave on loan, given our liking of a Lincoln loan could this be the one, very experienced
Never been a fan really. Maybe Lincoln are signing Elerewe from Bromley. He’s signing for a L1 club for cash.
What’s Montsma like? Sounds like a ball playing defender but he’s not actually that experienced and that’s what Grant said this signing would be.
Only 129 appearances all comps at 27.
But at the moment it will depend on the loan fee and wages we will get what we can afford. A lot league 1 clubs are passing us by. As before when we were in league 1 our spending power is way down the list.
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Lincoln are apparently signing a CH to allow Lewis Montsma 6’3” defender to leave on loan, given our liking of a Lincoln loan could this be the one, very experienced
Never been a fan really. Maybe Lincoln are signing Elerewe from Bromley. He’s signing for a L1 club for cash.
What’s Montsma like? Sounds like a ball playing defender but he’s not actually that experienced and that’s what Grant said this signing would be.
Only 129 appearances all comps at 27.
I was working on L1 the first season he joined Lincoln and he looked a bit of a find. Good on the ball and scored quite regularly. Over time it became quite apparent he’s a pretty ordinary defender and he’s played 33 league games since January 2022… that’s 4 years! From memory he’s done his cruciate twice (don’t fact check that…), I’m sure it’s true.
May not even be him, and if it is, does he have to even be that good to be better than what we have? Possibly not.
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I feel like Montsma has had a few red cards in his time at Lincoln.
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Lincoln are apparently signing a CH to allow Lewis Montsma 6’3” defender to leave on loan, given our liking of a Lincoln loan could this be the one, very experienced
Never been a fan really. Maybe Lincoln are signing Elerewe from Bromley. He’s signing for a L1 club for cash.
What’s Montsma like? Sounds like a ball playing defender but he’s not actually that experienced and that’s what Grant said this signing would be.
Only 129 appearances all comps at 27.
I was working on L1 the first season he joined Lincoln and he looked a bit of a find. Good on the ball and scored quite regularly. Over time it became quite apparent he’s a pretty ordinary defender and he’s played 33 league games since January 2022… that’s 4 years! From memory he’s done his cruciate twice (don’t fact check that…), I’m sure it’s true.
May not even be him, and if it is, does he have to even be that good to be better than what we have? Possibly not.
He has done both ACL's in the last 4 years... got over those and has since had shoulder problems. He is (was) a gifted player in his first year/s at Lincoln and was well thought of; however, his injuries have kept him back. I understand he is currently fit (injury free) but he may take some time to get up to pace...
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Lincoln are apparently signing a CH to allow Lewis Montsma 6’3” defender to leave on loan, given our liking of a Lincoln loan could this be the one, very experienced
Never been a fan really. Maybe Lincoln are signing Elerewe from Bromley. He’s signing for a L1 club for cash.
What’s Montsma like? Sounds like a ball playing defender but he’s not actually that experienced and that’s what Grant said this signing would be.
Only 129 appearances all comps at 27.
I was working on L1 the first season he joined Lincoln and he looked a bit of a find. Good on the ball and scored quite regularly. Over time it became quite apparent he’s a pretty ordinary defender and he’s played 33 league games since January 2022… that’s 4 years! From memory he’s done his cruciate twice (don’t fact check that…), I’m sure it’s true.
May not even be him, and if it is, does he have to even be that good to be better than what we have? Possibly not.
Ignoring your first paragraph (which essentially reminds all of your c.v. ‘yet again’ & its tenuous links to football in general) your second paragraph is abominably ambiguous to say the least!
I’m at a loss as to exactly what you’re attempting to say in your second paragraph.
I can’t be a**ed to quote you but in essence, we not only need ‘better’ than we have in the centre of defence, we have to have someone who brings a ‘difference’ to the balance of that pairing be it pace, height, confidence on the ball, organisation, physicality or just a downright presence in the way that Rob Jones ‘brought onto the pitch’ & in doing so ‘demanded’ by his own standards that they do so.
Forgive me for ‘dancing on the daisies in your lawn’.
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Lincoln are apparently signing a CH to allow Lewis Montsma 6’3” defender to leave on loan, given our liking of a Lincoln loan could this be the one, very experienced
Never been a fan really. Maybe Lincoln are signing Elerewe from Bromley. He’s signing for a L1 club for cash.
What’s Montsma like? Sounds like a ball playing defender but he’s not actually that experienced and that’s what Grant said this signing would be.
Only 129 appearances all comps at 27.
I was working on L1 the first season he joined Lincoln and he looked a bit of a find. Good on the ball and scored quite regularly. Over time it became quite apparent he’s a pretty ordinary defender and he’s played 33 league games since January 2022… that’s 4 years! From memory he’s done his cruciate twice (don’t fact check that…), I’m sure it’s true.
May not even be him, and if it is, does he have to even be that good to be better than what we have? Possibly not.
He has done both ACL's in the last 4 years... got over those and has since had shoulder problems. He is (was) a gifted player in his first year/s at Lincoln and was well thought of; however, his injuries have kept him back. I understand he is currently fit (injury free) but he may take some time to get up to pace...
Regarding that last sentence, Micky, GM said this guy, whoever he is, is ready to go straight into the first team, so it must be someone who's match fit.
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John Stones
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So, where’s this centre back, then?
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So, where’s this centre back, then?
People were saying don’t panic it’s only early January etc, well every game we play without a new CB we are losing points. It’s gonna end up costing us big time.
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If the new CB is wavering worried he won’t get game time, he won’t be worried any more.
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If the new CB is wavering worried he won’t get game time, he won’t be worried any more.
After today debacle he’s probably not wa t to be blamed for results like ..
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If the new CB is wavering worried he won’t get game time, he won’t be worried any more.
Grant said to be signed by Monday. Has promotions with two clubs.
O5.35
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0mwzjs2?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
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I think that was him in his agents helicopter leaving in the 88th minute
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If the new CB is wavering worried he won’t get game time, he won’t be worried any more.
Grant said to be signed by Monday. Has promotions with two clubs.
O5.35
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0mwzjs2?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
None of the names mentioned have 2 promotions under their belt so idea who it is. Tom McIntrye was part of the Charlton team last season but only played around 10 games
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Whoever it is must surely be an improvement on what we've got.
We really are terrible in defence.
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I think it was more a case of a game management issue from the management team rather than pointing fingers at the defence personally.
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I think it was more a case of a game management issue from the management team rather than pointing fingers at the defence personally.
Have another look at the highlights, NC. The 1st and 3rd goals were awful.
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When you end up with McGrath and Grehan trying to see a game out you are grasping at straws.
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I think it was more a case of a game management issue from the management team rather than pointing fingers at the defence personally.
Have another look at the highlights, NC. The 1st and 3rd goals were awful.
To me after a dominant first half where Wigan were dead and buried, the lads looked like they came out with no idea what to do when they got the ball. There was no control, which is what we needed.
He could have made the midfield more compact and hard to play through. Or looked to have kept the ball a bit and tired them out. It was just the usual harried approach.
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I just hope he hasn't got tattoos on his neck
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Dan Scarr
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Dan Scarr
His recent career experience suggests he’s not going to be coming to a team 22nd in League One. More so top end League One.
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Dan Scarr
I hope it is him and not a name I’ve heard mentioned.
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When you end up with McGrath and Grehan trying to see a game out you are grasping at straws.
I honestly don’t know what Pearson has done wrong to be out the side. Is he injuries? No way McGarth or Grehan should be ahead of him.
Under Grant we have a habit of sidelining new signings only to realise later they are decent (Gotts anyone)
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Dan Scarr
Started today for Wrexham.
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Dan Scarr
I hope it is him and not a name I’ve heard mentioned.
Care to share the name?
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We have one of the top defenders in the second division this season statistically and one of the top central defenders in the National League North last season played in and got MOM's in our first team at 17 yrs old and has not had a sniff here for two seasons and had three days pre season with us before being loaned out to Harrogate which was just enough time for him to grab his gear and make way for others we hadn't a clue how good they were, and if we did massively overestimated them as being division 1 standard.
There are some good agents about, and love clubs like us.
So now we have another go after McGrath, Grehan an Pearson who is the best defender of the three and bring a fourth in who like the others might be no better than the one, (but we mope he is) we played as a17 year old, and have never made the impression Anderson did who was also side lined for long periods, until we stumbled on a successful combination.
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Dan Scarr
Not a bloody chance in hell we will get dan scarr (unfortunatly)
He just played 84 mins for wrexham today.
Wouldnt of started if a move away was already in the pipeline
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Seen a rumour that it could be Tom McIntyre.
Which claiming he won 2 promotions is a bit of a false claim given he only played in 1 match for 1 of those and started 4 out of 10 matches for the other.
Pompey are also looking to part ways with him before the end of the window. Even started 2 academy players on the bench instead of him
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It's not McIntyre or Monstma apparently
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Is the CB to replace McGrath or get Bailey back in midfield is the question
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Is the CB to replace McGrath or get Bailey back in midfield is the question
He’s said it’s to get Bailey back in midfield.
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Is the CB to replace McGrath or get Bailey back in midfield is the question
Midfield looks good and we have options with Robinson looking like a good signing. Bailey wins all his headers cleanly and is just so solid back there it’s like having Andy Butler back. We weaken the team if Bailey moves forward and McGarth weeks playing. Almost pointless signing a new CB if we stick with our weak link
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Is the CB to replace McGrath or get Bailey back in midfield is the question
He’s said it’s to get Bailey back in midfield.
Jesus we really are going to have to score 10 a game to stay up then!! Ffs I’m losing confidence in Grants decision making it’s so obvious that’s a bad move
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Close back next month and gives us different midfield option to see games out.
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Is the CB to replace McGrath or get Bailey back in midfield is the question
He’s said it’s to get Bailey back in midfield.
If that's the case, and the new CB isn't a left footer we are truly in the shit.
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I know people want to find a single point of failure in the hope when this is addressed we will be fine. McGrath might have had some tough rides the last few months but he isn’t the problem. The unit isn’t as a whole very effective on a consistent basis. We are not set up to aid any defensive unit. That’s the overall approach, that just changing the personnel can only partially rectify.
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Is the CB to replace McGrath or get Bailey back in midfield is the question
He’s said it’s to get Bailey back in midfield.
If that's the case, and the new CB isn't a left footer we are truly in the shit.
If it's who I'm led to believe it is we really haven't improved this problem area.
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The flack McGrath is getting is shocking. He’s 22, still learning and being hung out to dry by McCanns recruitment. You’ve got full backs who allow wingers to cross at will and has had dead legs Pearson to his right since COR went back. What chance has the lad got? He’s looked ok to me in the last 2 games. We would have been 0-2 down early doors yesterday if it wasn’t for him. Speaking just on players who are regular starters how Sterry, Maxwell and Pearson get less stick is beyond me. The 3 of them are league 2 at best. I can’t believe how a lot don’t see it.
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Is the CB to replace McGrath or get Bailey back in midfield is the question
Midfield looks good and we have options with Robinson looking like a good signing. Bailey wins all his headers cleanly and is just so solid back there it’s like having Andy Butler back. We weaken the team if Bailey moves forward and McGarth weeks playing. Almost pointless signing a new CB if we stick with our weak link
agree with this wholeheartedly. I find GM’s comments really alarming. As one particular poster says, you’re only as good as your weakest player. And McGrath stands out like a sore thumb. He’s an absolute liability, being at fault for a ridiculous number of goals this season. He gets dragged out of position countless times, dives in too often and has no pace to cover. I just don’t think he’s very bright either. Highlighted by his embarrassing celebration of his goal.
As for Bailey, it would be a real act of self harm trying to shoehorn him back into midfield and therefore weakening an already weak back line. He made the game look so easy and effortless. He was outstanding on his side of the pitch. He’s a knack of being in the right place at the right time. And what I noticed yesterday he hardly ever had to jump to win any headers against their number 9. He just used his strength to muscle him out the way until it dropped on his head. It’s a real skill for a lad who isn’t massive in stature. I always think about Canavarro as the type of player he is. He’s easily our best defender. I can’t say that about in midfield though…
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I just hope he hasn't got tattoos on his neck
Well Lincoln have signed not the green monster but the Bromley Monster (see my commentary on the Chessie Bromley game) right lump of ........ Darren Moore Mark 2 ?
Lincoln have a tattoo man defender who they only signed at the start of the season he's 33 yo. He has been making one or two mistakes recently. He was caught for pace early on against Burton on Thursday when he pulled the blokes shirt at the neck and got away giving the penalty. I only saw the first 25 minutes of that game but Burton are no pushovers.
When Plymouth released him I thought we should sign him. I remember he has scored at least one header against us at our place. He had a good spell of scoring a few years ago.
They scrambled a 2-1 win against Burton. By the way they are losing 5 to 6 thousand pounds a week. Their potential new owner is having his due diligence done now.
Maybe I am wrong and it's not him just hope the loan means his tattoos can stay at Lincoln. Wouldn't for a moment say I hate tatoos.
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Is the CB to replace McGrath or get Bailey back in midfield is the question
Midfield looks good and we have options with Robinson looking like a good signing. Bailey wins all his headers cleanly and is just so solid back there it’s like having Andy Butler back. We weaken the team if Bailey moves forward and McGarth weeks playing. Almost pointless signing a new CB if we stick with our weak link
agree with this wholeheartedly. I find GM’s comments really alarming. As one particular poster says, you’re only as good as your weakest player. And McGrath stands out like a sore thumb. He’s an absolute liability, being at fault for a ridiculous number of goals this season. He gets dragged out of position countless times, dives in too often and has no pace to cover. I just don’t think he’s very bright either. Highlighted by his embarrassing celebration of his goal.
As for Bailey, it would be a real act of self harm trying to shoehorn him back into midfield and therefore weakening an already weak back line. He made the game look so easy and effortless. He was outstanding on his side of the pitch. He’s a knack of being in the right place at the right time. And what I noticed yesterday he hardly ever had to jump to win any headers against their number 9. He just used his strength to muscle him out the way until it dropped on his head. It’s a real skill for a lad who isn’t massive in stature. I always think about Canavarro as the type of player he is. He’s easily our best defender. I can’t say that about in midfield though…
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Didn’t the goal line block from McGrath stem from him getting out paced with a ball in behind him anyway?
What we miss in general is some recovery pace in that back line. We don’t need another Anderson, Wood, Jones type IMO because Bailey is fine at the head it, kick it stuff anyway whilst offering more.
What we missed yesterday from a centre back was someone looking to put their foot on the ball and calm it down maybe? The teams default state no matter what the game state is just to be frantic.
If McGrath can’t go for the Hollywood ball or act like a hard man he’s clueless. And he is much slower than was made out last season when he was hyped up.
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Didn’t the goal line block from McGrath stem from him getting out paced with a ball in behind him anyway?
What we miss in general is some recovery pace in that back line. We don’t need another Anderson, Wood, Jones type IMO because Bailey is fine at the head it, kick it stuff anyway whilst offering more.
What we missed yesterday from a centre back was someone looking to put their foot on the ball and calm it down maybe? The teams default state no matter what the game state is just to be frantic.
If McGrath can’t go for the Hollywood ball or act like a hard man he’s clueless. And he is much slower than was made out last season when he was hyped up.
Your defenders touch the ball the most. Imperative they can all pass forward. The absolute starting point for recruiting defenders.
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The flack McGrath is getting is shocking. He’s 22, still learning and being hung out to dry by McCanns recruitment. You’ve got full backs who allow wingers to cross at will and has had dead legs Pearson to his right since COR went back. What chance has the lad got? He’s looked ok to me in the last 2 games. We would have been 0-2 down early doors yesterday if it wasn’t for him. Speaking just on players who are regular starters how Sterry, Maxwell and Pearson get less stick is beyond me. The 3 of them are league 2 at best. I can’t believe how a lot don’t see it.
Tend to agree with that. Up to half time and maybe beyond, he was making a case for MOM.
He certainly benefits with someone alongside him who organises the back line and keeps him in check positionally.
So, with Bailey the captain deployed to that take that job on, we earn a clean sheet at Wimbledon and a further 60 mins v Wigan. McCann says we go quiet at the back. So isn't Bailey being vocal enough?
Clearly there was a lapse at 3-0 but it's so difficult to opportion blame on any one individually including the manager.
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We have one of the top defenders in the second division this season statistically and one of the top central defenders in the National League North last season played in and got MOM's in our first team at 17 yrs old and has not had a sniff here for two seasons and had three days pre season with us before being loaned out to Harrogate which was just enough time for him to grab his gear and make way for others we hadn't a clue how good they were, and if we did massively overestimated them as being division 1 standard.
There are some good agents about, and love clubs like us.
So now we have another go after McGrath, Grehan an Pearson who is the best defender of the three and bring a fourth in who like the others might be no better than the one, (but we mope he is) we played as a17 year old, and have never made the impression Anderson did who was also side lined for long periods, until we stumbled on a successful combination.
In your first sentence explains it all , “ in the second division and the National League North “ not in Division One against some very very good strikers.
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Draytonian, not giving him a chance to prove to the manager and people like you, and carry on with what we have got to the end of the season is likely to cost the club relegation and probably people to leave the club. We have been poor for a third of the season, how many repeats do you require before the penny drops,
He was better than some defenders playing now when he was 17 yrs old, and if we are not careful we will lose him to play higher than we are at for nothing.
With Bailey and Molyneux he is one of our few saleable assets at the moment.
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Currently Faulkner and Flint are probably ok at L2, but not yet upto L1 standard.
I think we have seen that it’s quite a high step between the two leagues, with the quality of players currently in L1.
We desperately need someone who is comfortable with L1 and may have the promise of playing within a championship squad within a couple of years.
McGrath & Grehan are struggling at this level, although thought Jay seemed to be ok in last could of matches, both need a real experienced guy with them, we are weak if they play together, so the same will apply if F&F come back into the club.
The way it’s going likely to be next season when we are in L2, although I suspect Flint is more respected by McCann.
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Draytonian, not giving him a chance to prove to the manager and people like you, and carry on with what we have got to the end of the season is likely to cost the club relegation and probably people to leave the club. We have been poor for a third of the season, how many repeats do you require before the penny drops,
He was better than some defenders playing now when he was 17 yrs old, and if we are not careful we will lose him to play higher than we are at for nothing.
With Bailey and Molyneux he is one of our few saleable assets at the moment.
Beats me why you’re not an active manager in the football league, i mean you obviously think you know better than the hierarchy at DRFC
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Yep , I have seen what we have got like you in our games and am not impressed, I have certainly seen more of him in action in the last three years than anyone at the club, in fact most have only watched him fleetingly and have seen more of him the last few weeks in the gym than on the playing field,
I have also talked to a number of professional players, scouts., agents and in two cases other clubs managers and know their opinion which I have taken on board.
I also know that he has been followed this season by an independent statistician employed to follow his progress which has been huge, for information for other clubs. and over the years I have watched the Rovers since 1951 have seen the professionals at this club sign players I would not have touched with a barge pole to be honest.
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Yep , I have seen what we have got like you in our games and am not impressed, I have certainly seen more of him in action in the last three years than anyone at the club, in fact most have only watched him fleetingly and have seen more of him the last few weeks in the gym than on the playing field,
I have also talked to a number of professional players, scouts., agents and in two cases other clubs managers and know their opinion which I have taken on board.
I also know that he has been followed this season by an independent statistician employed to follow his progress which has been huge, for information for other clubs. and over the years I have watched the Rovers since 1951 have seen the professionals at this club sign players I would not have touched with a barge pole to be honest.
Without trying to be condescending just curious why you feel in the summer Bobby wasn’t offered a better deal at a better club and seemed to have to just settle for what we offered in the end?
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Unfortunately for Bobby it is just too much of a risk, at a time we now know we cannot afford. Jay had a season in league 2 and that is what Bobby should do, then step up to the DRFC first team (hopefully in league 1)
Can you imagine the impact if it didn’t go well, and as we all know, a lot of the blame will be put on him - that’s unfair for a lad trying to grow a career.
If Bobby is doing as well as Selby says, he is doing exactly as he should be doing to get in Grants mind.
Either way Bobby is not the answer now, we need an on field coach, organiser and mouthpiece for Grant on the pitch - this would improve the defence no end, but ability with the ball and speed is also a must.
That ain’t gonna be easy or cheap to find.
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We could sign bobby Moore and some on here would criticise...
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We could sign bobby Moore and some on here would criticise...
Well yeah, why waste wages on a dead man…..
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Becoming increasingly likely it’s Neill Byrne. X is in meltdown over this one claiming he moves like a bus. Know nothing about him but also know we don’t need someone who is “just an organiser”
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Jeeze that’s hugely underwhelming if so
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Becoming increasingly likely it’s Neill Byrne. X is in meltdown over this one claiming he moves like a bus. Know nothing about him but also know we don’t need someone who is “just an organiser”
Just looked him up and I hope not. 32 years old, only started playing in the football league 5 years ago and has only ever made an handful of appearances in League One. Not sure if he’s had injury issues but in and out of both the Bradford & Stockport teams in that period. Does fit the promoted twice criteria, though, and isn’t even making the squad at Bradford.
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He's a League 2 Matty Pearson. Check his stats and you'd probably put Pearson ahead of him. Bradford say he's a liability in League 1.
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He's a League 2 Matty Pearson. Check his stats and you'd probably put Pearson ahead of him. Bradford say he's a liability in League 1.
What happens with Pearson now then? Didn't make the squad yesterday, another off out on loan?
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Didn’t make the squad as we had no full back on the bench so Grehan who can allegedly do both was on the bench. Won’t always be like that.
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Would a name change to O'Pearson help?
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We could sign bobby Moore and some on here would criticise...
Well yeah, why waste wages on a dead man…..
You must spend a lot of time on your own.... thinking up witty reposts...
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We could sign bobby Moore and some on here would criticise...
Well yeah, why waste wages on a dead man…..
You must spend a lot of time on your own.... thinking up witty reposts...
Why thank you MM
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Byrne is a poor man's Pearson, Pearson is a poor man's Richard Wood. We need a real dominant CB that can still move.
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We could sign bobby Moore and some on here would criticise...
Well yeah, why waste wages on a dead man…..
You must spend a lot of time on your own.... thinking up witty reposts...
Why thank you MM
That's fine fella - I like to support the special amongst us....
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We could sign bobby Moore and some on here would criticise...
Well yeah, why waste wages on a dead man…..
You must spend a lot of time on your own.... thinking up witty reposts...
Why thank you MM
That's fine fella - I like to support the special amongst us....
I think you come across as pretty normal, all things considered ;)
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Draytonian, not giving him a chance to prove to the manager and people like you, and carry on with what we have got to the end of the season is likely to cost the club relegation and probably people to leave the club. We have been poor for a third of the season, how many repeats do you require before the penny drops,
He was better than some defenders playing now when he was 17 yrs old, and if we are not careful we will lose him to play higher than we are at for nothing.
With Bailey and Molyneux he is one of our few saleable assets at the moment.
By my research Bobby has made 32 league appearances in 4 season either for Harrogate or ourselves, I say appearances not games played as some of matches he will either been subbed off or come on for the last few minutes. By all due respect to the lad he seems to spend a lot of the unluckily injured which of course will not be he own fault, but clubs seem to try and distance themselves form injury prone players these days. We can all think back over the last day 25 years or so how many players we’ve “ carried “ for a couple of seasons.
I genuinely hope I’m wrong but I just can’t see Bobby making the grade to a League One or above defender especially with his injuries, this is nothing personal against the lad but I just can’t see it happening
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Draytonian, not giving him a chance to prove to the manager and people like you, and carry on with what we have got to the end of the season is likely to cost the club relegation and probably people to leave the club. We have been poor for a third of the season, how many repeats do you require before the penny drops,
He was better than some defenders playing now when he was 17 yrs old, and if we are not careful we will lose him to play higher than we are at for nothing.
With Bailey and Molyneux he is one of our few saleable assets at the moment.
By my research Bobby has made 32 league appearances in 4 season either for Harrogate or ourselves, I say appearances not games played as some of matches he will either been subbed off or come on for the last few minutes. By all due respect to the lad he seems to spend a lot of the unluckily injured which of course will not be he own fault, but clubs seem to try and distance themselves form injury prone players these days. We can all think back over the last day 25 years or so how many players we’ve “ carried “ for a couple of seasons.
I genuinely hope I’m wrong but I just can’t see Bobby making the grade to a League One or above defender especially with his injuries, this is nothing personal against the lad but I just can’t see it happening
So 32 man of the match awards and 32 x scouts from the likes of Real Madrid fighting to tell a 79 year old how good he is?
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Talking about injury plagued players always remind me of Steve Brooker, injured for two years then scored a worldly just before his contract expired!
Id like to see BF brought back into the squad after his injury layoff, just the fact he has pace would improve our defence no end, needs some games exposure, as things stand he's not inferior to our current centre half's and probably better!
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Play Faulkner, we get relegated. I would bet my life on it.
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Play Faulkner, we get relegated. I would bet my life on it.
I’d rather play Faulkner than Byrne.
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I think playing Faulkner is a risk that Grant just can't take at the moment. I like him and think he could well play League football for quite a few years.
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Play McGrath, we get relegated. I would bet my life on it.
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With Faulkner.
Someone said something along the lines of..........
"when everything else has been eliminated, whatever's left, no matter how implausible, must be the solution!"
I think its fair to say all the other centerbacks have eliminated themselves?
He might not be the answer but I think he deserves a chance.
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With Faulkner.
Someone said something along the lines of..........
"when everything else has been eliminated, whatever's left, no matter how implausible, must be the solution!"
I think its fair to say all the other centerbacks have eliminated themselves?
He might not be the answer but I think he deserves a chance.
No “might” about it.
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I think it was more a case of a game management issue from the management team rather than pointing fingers at the defence personally.
Totally agree.
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Didn’t make the squad as we had no full back on the bench so Grehan who can allegedly do both was on the bench. Won’t always be like that.
That's just pointing out the bench was unbalanced, noticeable you couldn't explain circumstances where that happens, new cb could get injured, or banned, at the same time as McGrath or Grehan. THEN there might be a place on the bench for someone given a two year contract, brought in as an organiser of the defence, an early signing targeted with that ability and role in mind by the manager, but now disregarded in favour of someone else to be a vocal organiser of defence, well, new cb MAY shout alot himself but what are his own defensive abilities?
We'll find out today but if it's the fella from Bradford then I'm baffled.
Grant says he goes straight into his starting 11, same Grant who has always ended a season saying he likes to have early signings so that person can be well integrated and understand his requirements. Yet this new signing that very possibly hasn't played much first team football this season, goes immediatly into the side, after one half arsed training session this morning? :saywhat:
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Could be misinformation and Grant plans for Pearson to start next game and if it is Byrne signing he's brought in in case of a bizarre set of circumstances happen, such as losing McGrath, Grehan and or Bailey and he's needed in emergency to be in the starting line up.
That would make sense.
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We have and have had all season a problem in defence that leaks goals.
We have brought players in on the young side and the older end no better than what we have brought through ourselves and foisted them out at the earliest opportunity and have solved nothing and have not improved in fact are weaker than the finish to last season in the run in.
Its scatter gun management but in the defence of the management team is the market price we shop in and sadly depends on luck.
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If it is the player mentioned a very underwhelming signing he can't have been on the original list as a replacement for ORiordon. We appear not to have the funds to compete for good players in this league. Backup centre half with league 2 promotions and not played at all this season. I hope the rumours wrong and we get a good surprise.
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I have no idea nor am I that bothered who he is or where he has played its what he brings to the team when he gets here. I hope he is a instant and long success here.
The class and performances of those that are here and have played here give me as a supporter of the club concerns of their suitability for division1 standard football on a regular basis.
I am not confident they are good enough, its as simple as that, but I am not going to comment on any new player without seeing them play a number of games, and assume the management team sign players that can add to the side, and are a step up on who we have
been playing this season and have us at the wrong end of the table.
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
One other matter is that he is unlikely to come in match fit having not played since early January...
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.
What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
One other matter is that he is unlikely to come in match fit having not played since early January...
This after all the talk was of someone who could hit the ground running!
When you play as open as we do its vitally imperative that we have a centre half who can cover the ground and his playing partners, if we just bring in more of the same we haven't solved the long standing issue and we'll continue to see the same results.
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He's only been playing league 2 football since 2021 and only made 115 appearances in that time. Now I'm a big fan of Grant but who's he trying to kid here with this experience nonsense? Very underwhelming if this turns out to be true and won't make any difference to our defensive problems.
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
Most probably on his way before the window shuts judging by what McCann said.
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He's only been playing league 2 football since 2021 and only made 115 appearances in that time. Now I'm a big fan of Grant but who's he trying to kid here with this experience nonsense? Very underwhelming if this turns out to be true and won't make any difference to our defensive problems.
I don’t understand his dropping in of two promotions either. He didn’t get those sides promoted all on his own did he?!
Even still when they’re League Two promotions.
Not relevant in the slightest but are clubs swayed by such pointless CV filling facts like this?
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Lots of people getting very worked up about this lad. Let’s see what he brings first. Might even surprise people.
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Lots of people getting very worked up about this lad. Let’s see what he brings first. Might even surprise people.
Certainly didn't surprise at Bradford!
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Lots of people getting very worked up about this lad. Let’s see what he brings first. Might even surprise people.
If it's him then he's played 1 game this season in the EFL Cup in September against Newcastle. Hes not played in League. He played 16 games in their promotion from league 2. Sorry this will be an embarrassing signing
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Lots of people getting very worked up about this lad. Let’s see what he brings first. Might even surprise people.
If it's him then he's played 1 game this season in the EFL Cup in September against Newcastle. Hes not played in League. He played 16 games in their promotion from league 2. Sorry this will be an embarrassing signing
He has played in the league this season, although his last outing in the league was on New Years Day away at Mansfield where Bradford lost 3-0!!
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Lots of people getting very worked up about this lad. Let’s see what he brings first. Might even surprise people.
If it's him then he's played 1 game this season in the EFL Cup in September against Newcastle. Hes not played in League. He played 16 games in their promotion from league 2. Sorry this will be an embarrassing signing
He has played in the league this season, although his last outing in the league was on New Years Day away at Mansfield where Bradford lost 3-0!!
Leave his experience and organisation abilities at home that day?
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.
What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.
I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.
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Where's Pearson he's experienced he's a leader he's 32 yet he can't get in the squad so why sign another player that age who's not played regular at league 1 level. We went with younger centre halves in the summer and now we are looking for so called experienced ones. We have not got the funds to get better and Grant and his scouting team are scrambling around to get one that suits our meagre budget.
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Maybe just maybe that the only reason he hasn't played enough games for them is simply due to 2 other CBs at the club are more favoured by Alexander and he just can't get in the team? Just like McGrath is favoured a lot by McCann, last season for example Anderson and Wood weren't bad defenders at all, its just that Olowu and McGrath were in such good form and had a good partnership that he didn't want to change it until he was forced to due to injury.
Having just checked i notice they play 3 at the back with Tilt, Baldwin and Joe Wright mainly and sometimes not having a CB on the bench.
If it is him it is a bit strange saying that he is going to be straight into the squad for Leyton Orient tomorrow, to then not be able to play against his parent club on Saturday? Assuming its a loan of course.
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.
What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.
I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.
To perform well at our level requires an individual who actually performs well at our level now, not a player who is not a League 1 regular. It seems that we cannot afford to pay a transfer fee and that we can only afford a loan fee in which case, should it not be at Championship clubs that we should be looking? If a L1 player can't get a regular game with his present club you question whether he is really likely to be better than what we have already. Do L1 clubs really have players not good enough to get regular games yet comfortably better than what we already have? It really shows very little of the ambition with which we supposedly began this season.
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Crikey, Reading some of these posts, what chance has the new lad got? Knives are out before he's even kicked a ball.
We're doomed, we're all doomed !!!!!
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Lots of people getting very worked up about this lad. Let’s see what he brings first. Might even surprise people.
If it's him then he's played 1 game this season in the EFL Cup in September against Newcastle. Hes not played in League. He played 16 games in their promotion from league 2. Sorry this will be an embarrassing signing
He has played in the league this season, although his last outing in the league was on New Years Day away at Mansfield where Bradford lost 3-0!!
Leave his experience and organisation abilities at home that day?
Looks like he did!
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Lee Glover became a scout instead of a coach at the end of the season, he was replaced by Mad Baz.
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Who’s the experienced one gonna be do we think?
Byrne has only 699 minutes of L1 football in his career (Tom Nixon has 749) so he’s obviously not gonna be the experienced one.
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If the sounds about Byrne from this thread and fans from other clubs on X are true then McCann and his team really should be shown the door if they don’t keep us up. Sounds like it could be a horrific addition. Maybe this is all the budget leaves us to shop in? Hope everyone is wrong.
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Would piss myself if McCann rolls out someone else....
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Reading some of the old comments from Bradford fans about Byrne. He sounds absolutely terrible :mad:
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.
What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.
I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.
To perform well at our level requires an individual who actually performs well at our level now, not a player who is not a League 1 regular. It seems that we cannot afford to pay a transfer fee and that we can only afford a loan fee in which case, should it not be at Championship clubs that we should be looking? If a L1 player can't get a regular game with his present club you question whether he is really likely to be better than what we have already. Do L1 clubs really have players not good enough to get regular games yet comfortably better than what we already have? It really shows very little of the ambition with which we supposedly began this season.
Arguably Wigan's best player on Saturday is on loan there from another League One club
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Would piss myself if McCann rolls out someone else....
I would be so relieved
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It's 4.30 pm, MOnday, now. I've not seen, or heard of, any announcement yet....
BobG
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6.02 pm. It is Byrne.
BobG
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.
What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.
I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.
To perform well at our level requires an individual who actually performs well at our level now, not a player who is not a League 1 regular. It seems that we cannot afford to pay a transfer fee and that we can only afford a loan fee in which case, should it not be at Championship clubs that we should be looking? If a L1 player can't get a regular game with his present club you question whether he is really likely to be better than what we have already. Do L1 clubs really have players not good enough to get regular games yet comfortably better than what we already have? It really shows very little of the ambition with which we supposedly began this season.
Arguably Wigan's best player on Saturday is on loan there from another League One club
arguably Wigans best player on Saturday was Jay McGrath!! I think this new lad is the least of our worries.
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6.02 pm. It is Byrne.
BobG
Rumour is he was out yesterday celebrating Byrne's Night and they had to find him.
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.
What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.
I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.
To perform well at our level requires an individual who actually performs well at our level now, not a player who is not a League 1 regular. It seems that we cannot afford to pay a transfer fee and that we can only afford a loan fee in which case, should it not be at Championship clubs that we should be looking? If a L1 player can't get a regular game with his present club you question whether he is really likely to be better than what we have already. Do L1 clubs really have players not good enough to get regular games yet comfortably better than what we already have? It really shows very little of the ambition with which we supposedly began this season.
Arguably Wigan's best player on Saturday is on loan there from another League One club
arguably Wigans best player on Saturday was Jay McGrath!! I think this new lad is the least of our worries.
It was McGrath who scored our second goal, and cleared the line from an almost certain goal in the 5th minute.
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.
What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.
I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.
To perform well at our level requires an individual who actually performs well at our level now, not a player who is not a League 1 regular. It seems that we cannot afford to pay a transfer fee and that we can only afford a loan fee in which case, should it not be at Championship clubs that we should be looking? If a L1 player can't get a regular game with his present club you question whether he is really likely to be better than what we have already. Do L1 clubs really have players not good enough to get regular games yet comfortably better than what we already have? It really shows very little of the ambition with which we supposedly began this season.
Arguably Wigan's best player on Saturday is on loan there from another League One club
arguably Wigans best player on Saturday was Jay McGrath!! I think this new lad is the least of our worries.
It was McGrath who scored our second goal, and cleared the line from an almost certain goal in the 5th minute.
He only had to make the goal line clearance because he let his man saunter past him.
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.
What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.
I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.
To perform well at our level requires an individual who actually performs well at our level now, not a player who is not a League 1 regular. It seems that we cannot afford to pay a transfer fee and that we can only afford a loan fee in which case, should it not be at Championship clubs that we should be looking? If a L1 player can't get a regular game with his present club you question whether he is really likely to be better than what we have already. Do L1 clubs really have players not good enough to get regular games yet comfortably better than what we already have? It really shows very little of the ambition with which we supposedly began this season.
Arguably Wigan's best player on Saturday is on loan there from another League One club
arguably Wigans best player on Saturday was Jay McGrath!! I think this new lad is the least of our worries.
It was McGrath who scored our second goal, and cleared the line from an almost certain goal in the 5th minute.
the match lasts 90 mins. Talk me through the last half hours display then. He’s an absolute liability.
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McGrath had a very good first half and a very poor last half hour,but so did others.
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It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?
Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.
What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.
I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.
To perform well at our level requires an individual who actually performs well at our level now, not a player who is not a League 1 regular. It seems that we cannot afford to pay a transfer fee and that we can only afford a loan fee in which case, should it not be at Championship clubs that we should be looking? If a L1 player can't get a regular game with his present club you question whether he is really likely to be better than what we have already. Do L1 clubs really have players not good enough to get regular games yet comfortably better than what we already have? It really shows very little of the ambition with which we supposedly began this season.
Arguably Wigan's best player on Saturday is on loan there from another League One club
arguably Wigans best player on Saturday was Jay McGrath!! I think this new lad is the least of our worries.
It was McGrath who scored our second goal, and cleared the line from an almost certain goal in the 5th minute.
the match lasts 90 mins. Talk me through the last half hours display then. He’s an absolute liability.
For me yes he has made a few mistakes but at 60 mins we took off the one player that was holding up the ball in Wigans half who was allowing us to push up the pitch, and one of the creative players. Hanlan couldn't keep a hold of the ball and his control was poor which then meant we lost the ball and pressure was put back on the defence again and this happened repeatedly for those remaining 30 mins, and then another creative player is taken off.
Can't keep blaming the defence every time as a lot of the goals we have conceded have been from wayward passes in midfield or people losing the ball in midfield putting immediate pressure on the defence.
The plymouth and southampton goals were a prime example of this happening, Wigan too when Frankie hit a random ball back into our half and wigan nearly scored if it wasn't for McGrath.
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McGrath had a very good first half and a very poor last half hour,but so did most of the rest.
sadly these poor halves are happenings nearly every week from him. The lad can’t concentrate and loses his head. I dread to think the amount of goals he’s cost us this season. It may be temporary but his form is stinking the place out. If we persist with him it more than likely will cost us in the end.