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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: ChrisBx on January 26, 2026, 06:02:54 pm
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Confirmed on loan until the end of the season.
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Will give him a chance. But I'm not seeing what he brings that we don't already have in the squad?
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Will give him a chance. But I'm not seeing what he brings that we don't already have in the squad?
McCann- “He’s everything we want in a centre half - he’s experienced, he’s a leader, he can shift, he’s got decent pace on him for defending space in-behind and he’s calm on the ball.
“I think he’ll add to our team and what we have and add that bit of nous that’s probably been missing for a while.”
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Woopy f#c1n doo.
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Their fans are saying he's slow.
If mccann and team havent done their scouting right and it turns out he is slow after those comments, we'll know, and that would be unforgiveable.
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My mate is good friends with a Tranmere fan. Who’s told him this;
‘ couldn’t get in the team and we were near the bottom, plays like he’s towing a caravan’
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On paper it's a horrible signing. Let's hope he surprises
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Hardly expect McCann to come out and say he’s rubbish but…. We have lost a player who got MOTM for Blackburn on Saturday and brought in a player who’s not even been getting in Bradfords squad. Even if we didn’t lose COR, we needed to sign a centre half so for me this doesn’t feel very good at all.
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Absolutely honking signing, that makes no sense.
He's a non league journeyman who's career highlight is being a bench player for a league 2 club.
Mcann said hes experienced, but hes played next to no minutes at league 1 level.
No one can tell me we've got a decent budget when were rolling out signings like this.
Probably our most important position we needed to sign, and we roll out this competition winner near the end of the window.
TB, doesnt want a legacy, thats clear.
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Are we having Aldi sponsoring us next season?
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I think we just have to accept we are where we are now. The club won’t say it but we don’t have the money and we are a bottom half, fighting for survival league 1 side. We can all talk all we want about budgets but unless anyone else comes in the club has proven to me that they can’t afford to push any further. I just wish they would be honest with us instead of all the noise.
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If he's straight in tomorrow, Dom Ballard will rip him a new one.
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Don't be surprised when we are in a relegation battle to the end of the season. No way will we reach the dizzy heights of the top half of the table.
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I think we just have to accept wee are where we are now. The club won’t say it but we don’t have the money and we are a bottom half, fighting for survival league 1 side. We can all talk all we want about budgets but unless anyone else comes in the club has proven to me that they can’t afford to push any further. I just wish they would be honest with us instead of all the noise.
Time for TB to hand over the reigns then.
If were fighting relegation from league 1 by signing non league journeyman, then there is something seriously wrong
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I think we just have to accept we are where we are now. The club won’t say it but we don’t have the money and we are a bottom half, fighting for survival league 1 side. We can all talk all we want about budgets but unless anyone else comes in the club has proven to me that they can’t afford to push any further. I just wish they would be honest with us instead of all the noise.
Is the budget the problem or is the problem that we're spreading the budget across a massive squad of below average players at this level?
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Grant has to make the signing sound better what they are because he knows the board cannot afford the level of funds both in fees and wages to keep
Us competitive in this league. Embarrassing signing and CH who is 4th or 5th in line at Bradford who just got promoted we finished as champions yet they have progressed with good signings in the summer and hopefully in January and we have regressed. We have to hope our forward players can score goals to win games.
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I get that some feel let down and underwhelmed by this signing but come on the guys not kicked a ball yet, lets see how he performs in our team under our manager and with our players, nobody knows that outcome yet and should really wait until its a fact before diving in.
Need to support the team if we want them to achieve anything this season!
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Let’s see him play first.
I do imagine the budget was quite healthy this season, but it has maybe been stretched to get Haks, Zander and Frankie into the club.
After everything Grant has said in recent interviews about we just need to finish our chances, I feel he may have overlooked the opposite end, fully believing it.
If we manage to stay up, which I think we should, there has to be significant funds allocated for a defensive areas.
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Did the new gym affect the playing budget?
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L2 player at best, not what we want to stay up
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* 3 promotions
Grant forgot to include his Conference North one with Telford
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If he's straight in tomorrow, Dom Ballard will rip him a new one.
Crazy thought, throwing a 32yr old who is as slow as a boat, who hasnt played any minutes in the league this year against the league's top scorer after only being in the building for 1 day
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Some abject stuff on here. Give the lad a chance. He's not played a single minute yet and people are writing him off.
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Absolutely honking signing, that makes no sense.
He's a non league journeyman who's career highlight is being a bench player for a league 2 club.
Mcann said hes experienced, but hes played next to no minutes at league 1 level.
No one can tell me we've got a decent budget when were rolling out signings like this.
Probably our most important position we needed to sign, and we roll out this competition winner near the end of the window.
TB, doesnt want a legacy, thats clear.
And I bet if the player or
the manager does fail you’ll be all over like a rash, as per usual. Before you start I am not a “ happy clapper” more of a realist, give the player a chance , I doubt you will.
You seem to thrive on the club’s failings, never have anything positive to say about anyone , from Terry Bramhall downwards, do the ball boys a good job or the programme/ Red&White ticket sellers, who I found out on Saturday are volunteers.
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Will give him a chance. But I'm not seeing what he brings that we don't already have in the squad?
He’s cheap ?
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Also a concern for me is the fact this has been the worst kept secret for a few days, who connected to the club leaks this info?
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It’s not a signing that give us much confidence is it. McCann doesn’t value defence much by the looks of it.
If he plays along side McGarth for the remainder of the season we are down. We’ve hope if Bailey is back there.
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Nobody has seen him play yet. Not many players who sign have a great background or have been special previously, if they had, we wouldn't be able to get near them, most of those players are all your favourites or have been your favourites.
Sometimes, change of manager, tactics, players you are playing with all makes a difference.
Give him a chance here for gods sake.
Its so childish.
Lets see how he gets on and fingers crossed we are fine to kick on next year in league 1.
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Well he won't be playing on Saturday!
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Rob Jones. Signed aged 33 after being at another League One club. Slow as a boat. Never done anything. Over the hill. Can't believe we signed an old clogger like him.
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I know we’ve got a lot of things to be thankful for with the way the clubs ran compared to some others but do you ever think if we had a bit more ambition we’d be absolutely flying, if you look at the lad who Lincoln have signed from Bromley as an example they’ve probably signed him for 500k or less and no doubt he’ll potentially go for a couple million in a few years, similar to the Peterborough model, why do we seem to be bottom feeders instead of being proactive? I’m not saying we should be chucking money by any means but I think some signings we used to make, Matt mills, wellens, sharp etc… what happened to them kind of signings?
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Well he won't be playing on Saturday!
This is an interesting point. No idea what happens here.
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“Did the new gym affect the playing budget?”.
TB has built the Club Doncaster empire so revenues go into facilities, gym, training ground, Belles, rugby, etc and not just the first XI.
We have an owner who will right off the club’s debts but not invest in quality players. How many players have we ever paid for? Our real successful period was when we had three owners investing.
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Just don’t see how he’s any different to Pearson who McCann wing pick now.
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Absolutely honking signing, that makes no sense.
He's a non league journeyman who's career highlight is being a bench player for a league 2 club.
Mcann said hes experienced, but hes played next to no minutes at league 1 level.
No one can tell me we've got a decent budget when were rolling out signings like this.
Probably our most important position we needed to sign, and we roll out this competition winner near the end of the window.
TB, doesnt want a legacy, thats clear.
Meet the Owners event comes at a perfect time for you then.
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Why is nobody on here seems to be excited about this signing why is that ?
Our recent fall off I results was mainly down to not take our opportunities and dropping points from winning positions . Wigan exposed the teams lack of concentration by not closing down a game by restricting the play and holding onto the ball better and not get dragged into dogfight .
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I know we’ve got a lot of things to be thankful for with the way the clubs ran compared to some others but do you ever think if we had a bit more ambition we’d be absolutely flying, if you look at the lad who Lincoln have signed from Bromley as an example they’ve probably signed him for 500k or less and no doubt he’ll potentially go for a couple million in a few years, similar to the Peterborough model, why do we seem to be bottom feeders instead of being proactive? I’m not saying we should be chucking money by any means but I think some signings we used to make, Matt mills, wellens, sharp etc… what happened to them kind of signings?
We had JR then who absolutely loved the club.
Now we've got a chairman who does the bare minimum.
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Nobody has seen him play yet. Not many players who sign have a great background or have been special previously, if they had, we wouldn't be able to get near them, most of those players are all your favourites or have been your favourites.
Sometimes, change of manager, tactics, players you are playing with all makes a difference.
Give him a chance here for gods sake.
Its so childish.
Lets see how he gets on and fingers crossed we are fine to kick on next year in league 1.
I don’t appreciate you saying that those who are only stating facts, are being childish.
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For me the 3 priorities this January window were a goalkeeper, a centre forward and a centre half.
It would appear, in terms of budget, we've paid most out on signing Clark (a goalkeeper), Okoronkwo (a centre forward) and Adelakun (a winger).
After these 3 signings there doesn't appear to be much in the pot for signing any more quality on. From the clubs/owners perspective allowing the manager funds to sign 3 quality players seems fair given the size of the squad that was already in place.
Much as I like Adelakun spending the budget on him ahead of a higher quality centre half would appear at this point to potentially be a major error of judgement from the manager.
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I know we’ve got a lot of things to be thankful for with the way the clubs ran compared to some others but do you ever think if we had a bit more ambition we’d be absolutely flying, if you look at the lad who Lincoln have signed from Bromley as an example they’ve probably signed him for 500k or less and no doubt he’ll potentially go for a couple million in a few years, similar to the Peterborough model, why do we seem to be bottom feeders instead of being proactive? I’m not saying we should be chucking money by any means but I think some signings we used to make, Matt mills, wellens, sharp etc… what happened to them kind of signings?
Errrrr Owen Bailey??? For gods sake this forum is dreadful.
Wonder if the players look at what is written on here, and ask themselves, when are we going to sign up some better supporters?
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What an outrageously poor signing.
We have one of the worst defensive records in the league. We desperately needed a quality defensive addition even before our best defender O'Riordan was recalled.
What do we do? Sign some bloke who is, at best, a League 2 backup player.
We're clearly going to be back in League 2 next season if this is the best we've got.
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TBF RIS, I think fans have a lot to be concerned about. Just look at the table and see where we are and our atrocious goal difference. If we were mid table I would agree with you.
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Strange one to point the finger at the budget and the board.
It’s clear they invested this window. It’s the manager who’s chosen how to allocate the budget.
We wouldn’t be so desperate for a striker and a CB if the summer recruitment wasn’t so horrendous. It’s the price of getting Pearson and Hanlan wrong.
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Rob Jones. Signed aged 33 after being at another League One club. Slow as a boat. Never done anything. Over the hill. Can't believe we signed an old clogger like him.
Jones had played in League One, the Championship and SPL in the 6 years prior to us signing him and had just won promotion from L1 with Wednesday. The two signings are miles apart.
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I know we’ve got a lot of things to be thankful for with the way the clubs ran compared to some others but do you ever think if we had a bit more ambition we’d be absolutely flying, if you look at the lad who Lincoln have signed from Bromley as an example they’ve probably signed him for 500k or less and no doubt he’ll potentially go for a couple million in a few years, similar to the Peterborough model, why do we seem to be bottom feeders instead of being proactive? I’m not saying we should be chucking money by any means but I think some signings we used to make, Matt mills, wellens, sharp etc… what happened to them kind of signings?
Errrrr Owen Bailey??? For gods sake this forum is dreadful.
Wonder if the players look at what is written on here, and ask themselves, when are we going to sign up some better supporters?
Owen Bailey the free agent?
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Got to say after listening to the reasoning behind the signing it makes logical sense. He’s a relatively local lad who has played with a fair few players in particular Sterry Senior and Pearson, so is that the new back 4?
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I see the FIFA and Football Manager experts are out in force again...
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You think some of you would’ve learnt by now. Slagging off a new signing before he’s even kicked a ball for us is embarrassing.
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TB, doesnt want a legacy, thats clear.
Time for TB to hand over the reigns then.
You know, Tony, there are times when I think you might just talk garbage, and then you post this and remove even the smallest scintilla of doubt in my mind. To say these things about TB shows a lack of knowledge and a lack of respect for everything this chap has done for this club. I would also like to know who is in this mythical queue you have imagined of people forming a line to buy our club.
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I would also say, I’m unsure this will be a cheap signing, he’s been at relatively high payers in Stockport and Bradford.
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I know we’ve got a lot of things to be thankful for with the way the clubs ran compared to some others but do you ever think if we had a bit more ambition we’d be absolutely flying, if you look at the lad who Lincoln have signed from Bromley as an example they’ve probably signed him for 500k or less and no doubt he’ll potentially go for a couple million in a few years, similar to the Peterborough model, why do we seem to be bottom feeders instead of being proactive? I’m not saying we should be chucking money by any means but I think some signings we used to make, Matt mills, wellens, sharp etc… what happened to them kind of signings?
Errrrr Owen Bailey??? For gods sake this forum is dreadful.
Wonder if the players look at what is written on here, and ask themselves, when are we going to sign up some better supporters?
Yes we were privileged to be able to watch some of the great players around that time, we did did throw quite a reasonable amount of monies into the pot, but I think we may have been also be lucky to get some of the players at a reasonable cost, stocky and jimmy o’conner and the like.
However dropping into L2 will have hit the club hard financially, and means we had to build up again from a low base point. We have however brought in some good young players and I agree will be hard for them if they view many of the harsh comments that are made, when potentially we have the basis of a good squad.
Unfortunately we needed a good recruitment of some quality in the summer and I don’t think anyone can say this recruitment was successful, the minimum requirement was we needed 2 good centre backs and a striker to lead the attack, has we stand now, I still believe this is what we need.
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Rob Jones. Signed aged 33 after being at another League One club. Slow as a boat. Never done anything. Over the hill. Can't believe we signed an old clogger like him.
To be fair Jones came to us off a very successful spell at Wednesday where he captained them and (i think?) left after they got promoted to the championship. He was a cult hero with their fans also. The definition of a 'proven winner' that people all bang on about.
Means little, maybe Byrnes profile is just what we need back there and everyone is missing it, but you can see why Rob Jones got people excited and this one doesn't. We'll see in the coming weeks I suppose.
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TB, doesnt want a legacy, thats clear.
Time for TB to hand over the reigns then.
You know, Tony, there are times when I think you might just talk garbage, and then you post this and remove even the smallest scintilla of doubt in my mind. To say these things about TB shows a lack of knowledge and a lack of respect for everything this chap has done for this club. I would also like to know who is in this mythical queue you have imagined of people forming a line to buy our club.
I knew someone would say that, and I think it was either Baldwin or brammall himself who said they could think of 3 interested parties.
Well, give them a ring I say !
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TB, doesnt want a legacy, thats clear.
Time for TB to hand over the reigns then.
You know, Tony, there are times when I think you might just talk garbage, and then you post this and remove even the smallest scintilla of doubt in my mind. To say these things about TB shows a lack of knowledge and a lack of respect for everything this chap has done for this club. I would also like to know who is in this mythical queue you have imagined of people forming a line to buy our club.
I knew someone would say that, and I think it was either Baldwin or brammall himself who said they could think of 3 interested parties.
Well, give them I say !
Perhaps you could have said that at the last Meet The Owners event when they were sat on front of you.
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Strange one to point the finger at the budget and the board.
It’s clear they invested this window. It’s the manager who’s chosen how to allocate the budget.
We wouldn’t be so desperate for a striker and a CB if the summer recruitment wasn’t so horrendous. It’s the price of getting Pearson and Hanlan wrong.
TLT and Ajayi loans and Sharp contract renewal in the summer too.
Turning down half a mill for McGrath.
These mistakes can’t be undone and they cause a ripple effect.
*edit - Middleton too
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Lots of comments around he’s League 2 standard. Wonder what level that makes are current CBs. If he gets us organised whilst out on the pitch, that’s good enough for me. We definitely need some experience in there Good luck to him, looking forward to see how he settles in.
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.
Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?
The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.
We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.
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I get that people think he should be given a chance but reflecting on signings so far this season it’s easy to understand why people aren’t exactly on the edge of their seats frothing at the mouth to see the new guy perform.
For me we’re either out of money or we can no longer attract the quality of players we really need. Or both. Let’s face it who would choose to join Rovers as things stand unless there was no better option.
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Agreed metal mickey,
Called facts apparently. I believe Mccann more Im afraid, as he is the football manager not the 'experts and waanabes' in the stands. Its crazy, Ive never known anything like it. I know a tranmere fan and he said it is crazy this type of abuse. They have had terrible seasons for years and arent like this.
They signed the god ironside according to many all the answers to all our problems and should have kept him
........ done nothing in league 2.
Players play differently everywhere especially at this level.
Give the guy a chance.
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
Thats the thing, he DOESNT know what's required at this level because hes never played at this level
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I think McCann and his team had a highly dubious window in the summer but the pressure is really on now and he won't have made this signing lightly. Likewise, Terry isn't going to have denied him funding given the shit we are in.
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I get that people think he should be given a chance but reflecting on signings so far this season it’s easy to understand why people aren’t exactly on the edge of their seats frothing at the mouth to see the new guy perform.
For me we’re either out of money or we can no longer attract the quality of players we really need. Or both. Let’s face it who would choose to join Rovers as things stand unless there was no better option.
You cant base an individual signing on others and the thought process of bad signings are just over exaggerations just to fit the narrative.
2 seasons ago we was in the same position and every player was rubbish we started to win and every player was a hero. They cant be both. We are actually playing well. Im more than confident we will get out of it.
Onwards and upwards Rovers!
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Look back at posts last month. Gotts a wasted signing. Molyneux out of form, accept bid in window please. People are entitled to their views but there is some crackers stuff on here at times.
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Welcome to the Relegation scrap!
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Look back at posts last month. Gotts a wasted signing. Molyneux out of form, accept bid in window please. People are entitled to their views but there is some crackers stuff on here at times.
They choose a different scapegoat every month
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
Thats the thing, he DOESNT know what's required at this level because hes never played at this level
You've never played at this level either, but you do know what's required, eh?
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
Thats the thing, he DOESNT know what's required at this level because hes never played at this level
Yes he has!
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I get that people think he should be given a chance but reflecting on signings so far this season it’s easy to understand why people aren’t exactly on the edge of their seats frothing at the mouth to see the new guy perform.
For me we’re either out of money or we can no longer attract the quality of players we really need. Or both. Let’s face it who would choose to join Rovers as things stand unless there was no better option.
You cant base an individual signing on others and the thought process of bad signings are just over exaggerations just to fit the narrative.
2 seasons ago we was in the same position and every player was rubbish we started to win and every player was a hero. They cant be both. We are actually playing well. Im more than confident we will get out of it.
Onwards and upwards Rovers!
Two seasons ago we weren't in the same position. We were in League 2.
We're in League 1 now. Massive difference.
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Did the new gym affect the playing budget?
No, totally separate pot.
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Why do people on here think that players cease to exist up until the moment they sign for us?
Players' career stats are there to be seen, especially for older players. And if they don't correspond fairly accurately to a player's actual ability then what does? If it didn't then Man Utd would just pluck journeymen out of the lower leagues and give them a chance.
In Byrne's case; A non-league player up until 2021. Then played a full season for Hartlepool in League 2, they finished 17th. Then in-and-out of the Tranmere, Stockport, and Bradford teams at League 2.
And we're expected to believe that he's going to make a difference for us at League 1? That Grant McCann's Doncaster Rovers are so unique in the football world, that we are going to get something out of him that none of his previous clubs have?
It's arrogant nonsense. Same as when we signed Hanlan. That our manager, unlike any of the other managers he's played for, could somehow turn him into a goalscorer. How's that going?
Nothing against the Neill Byrne personally. He's probably a decent pro. But this is an objectively bad signing given what we need and what he's likely to offer.
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.
Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?
The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.
We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.
The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
Thats the thing, he DOESNT know what's required at this level because hes never played at this level
Yes he has!
699 minutes accross his ENTIRE career
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.
Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?
The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.
We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.
The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples
Its not just one person that doesnt fancy him, no club above league 2 has ever fancied him
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Look back at posts last month. Gotts a wasted signing. Molyneux out of form, accept bid in window please. People are entitled to their views but there is some crackers stuff on here at times.
Gotts was looking a bad signing because McCann didn’t know how to play him till he fell on it by accident.
This is the issue. Sign players don’t know what to do with them or how to play them. They fail or start poorly. They get binned. We sign a new player to replace the one we signed last window. And repeat.
Is Byrne any different to Pearson. By all conventional logic he’s worse but does the same job.
I like McCann but Terry must be fuming his cash is getting thrown around in circles. It feels like Grant is getting everything his own way re signings and players and maybe needs some challenge. Like your signing Gotts to play as a 8? Why when all logic says he’s always been best as a 6. Maybe that would actually help Grant if done in the right way because the one man club thing isn’t working
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.
Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?
The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.
We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.
The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples
Its not just one person that doesnt fancy him, no club above league 2 has ever fancied him
Nobody above conference level fancied Bailey.
You slag off every signing we make, so you’re diluting any point you may think you have
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.
Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?
The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.
We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.
The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples
We’ve seen him play against us three times in the last 15 months.
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Wasn’t worried to lose big characters like Wood and Anderson. Weirdly with one retiring and the other playing in a struggling League Two team if either of them was lining up for us tomorrow I would feel a whole lot better about our situation now and that says a lot about the players that have replaced them. I never missed Olowu until COR was recalled so he can be added into that now. We are deeply in the sh!t in my opinion. I’m sat here now hoping a couple of fringe players decide they want a move in order to free up some more funds and then pray we get a bit of recruitment right.
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.
Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?
The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.
We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.
The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples
We’ve seen him play against us three times in the last 15 months.
Everyone been saying he’s been back up for league 2 teams for the last 2 years! Yet he played in every game he could have against us?
And pretty sure nobody remembers what a random centre half played like against us a year ago
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.
Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?
The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.
We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.
The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples
We’ve seen him play against us three times in the last 15 months.
Everyone been saying he’s been back up for league 2 teams for the last 2 years! Yet he played in every game he could have against us?
And pretty sure nobody remembers what a random centre half played like against us a year ago
Do you think Byrne will be a better centre back than Owen Bailey? Because that’s the position he will be filling.
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.
Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?
The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.
We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.
The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples
We’ve seen him play against us three times in the last 15 months.
Everyone been saying he’s been back up for league 2 teams for the last 2 years! Yet he played in every game he could have against us?
And pretty sure nobody remembers what a random centre half played like against us a year ago
He played at the same level as us last season. Really easy to run the numbers and compare him to Olowu, Jay, Wood, Anderson, and Bobby who have had plenty of minutes playing centre half at L2 level of late. I have done just that.
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Welcome Neill! I hope you absolutely smash it! RTID
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.
Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?
The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.
We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.
The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples
We’ve seen him play against us three times in the last 15 months.
Everyone been saying he’s been back up for league 2 teams for the last 2 years! Yet he played in every game he could have against us?
And pretty sure nobody remembers what a random centre half played like against us a year ago
He played at the same level as us last season. Really easy to run the numbers and compare him to Olowu, Jay, Wood, Anderson, and Bobby who have had plenty of minutes playing centre half at L2 level of late. I have done just that.
Go on then spill the beans ...not so sure it paints a good picture...
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I know we’ve got a lot of things to be thankful for with the way the clubs ran compared to some others but do you ever think if we had a bit more ambition we’d be absolutely flying, if you look at the lad who Lincoln have signed from Bromley as an example they’ve probably signed him for 500k or less and no doubt he’ll potentially go for a couple million in a few years, similar to the Peterborough model, why do we seem to be bottom feeders instead of being proactive? I’m not saying we should be chucking money by any means but I think some signings we used to make, Matt mills, wellens, sharp etc… what happened to them kind of signings?
We had JR then who absolutely loved the club.
Now we've got a chairman who does the bare minimum.
Except...err ..pay the bills for 20 years after Ryan's ambitions turned out to be bigger than his pockets
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.
Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?
The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.
We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.
The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples
Its not just one person that doesnt fancy him, no club above league 2 has ever fancied him
Nobody above conference level fancied Bailey.
You slag off every signing we make, so you’re diluting any point you may think you have
Baileys injury was the reason for that, and he was far far younger
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I don’t often agree with Billy Stubbs Tears but I do on this , well said that man. I think certain people should think and perhaps research a few things before they start spouting off. Also be big enough to admit they’re wrong
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I know we’ve got a lot of things to be thankful for with the way the clubs ran compared to some others but do you ever think if we had a bit more ambition we’d be absolutely flying, if you look at the lad who Lincoln have signed from Bromley as an example they’ve probably signed him for 500k or less and no doubt he’ll potentially go for a couple million in a few years, similar to the Peterborough model, why do we seem to be bottom feeders instead of being proactive? I’m not saying we should be chucking money by any means but I think some signings we used to make, Matt mills, wellens, sharp etc… what happened to them kind of signings?
We had JR then who absolutely loved the club.
Now we've got a chairman who does the bare minimum.
Except...err ..pay the bills for 20 years after Ryan's ambitions turned out to be bigger than his pockets
Begs the question why he actually owns the club if he refuses to make a go of it.
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He's only been trusted enough to play 427 matches? Christ he must be shit!
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He's only been trusted enough to play 427 matches? Christ he must be shit!
Mostly in non league
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I know we’ve got a lot of things to be thankful for with the way the clubs ran compared to some others but do you ever think if we had a bit more ambition we’d be absolutely flying, if you look at the lad who Lincoln have signed from Bromley as an example they’ve probably signed him for 500k or less and no doubt he’ll potentially go for a couple million in a few years, similar to the Peterborough model, why do we seem to be bottom feeders instead of being proactive? I’m not saying we should be chucking money by any means but I think some signings we used to make, Matt mills, wellens, sharp etc… what happened to them kind of signings?
We had JR then who absolutely loved the club.
Now we've got a chairman who does the bare minimum.
Except...err ..pay the bills for 20 years after Ryan's ambitions turned out to be bigger than his pockets
Begs the question why he actually owns the club if he refuses to make a go of it.
I'd rather have someone with some sense than someone who would gamble with the entire future of the club.
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He's only been trusted enough to play 427 matches? Christ he must be shit!
Mostly in non league
So what? By your own logic, as you've never played at that level you know sod all about what it takes!
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I know we’ve got a lot of things to be thankful for with the way the clubs ran compared to some others but do you ever think if we had a bit more ambition we’d be absolutely flying, if you look at the lad who Lincoln have signed from Bromley as an example they’ve probably signed him for 500k or less and no doubt he’ll potentially go for a couple million in a few years, similar to the Peterborough model, why do we seem to be bottom feeders instead of being proactive? I’m not saying we should be chucking money by any means but I think some signings we used to make, Matt mills, wellens, sharp etc… what happened to them kind of signings?
We had JR then who absolutely loved the club.
Now we've got a chairman who does the bare minimum.
Except...err ..pay the bills for 20 years after Ryan's ambitions turned out to be bigger than his pockets
Begs the question why he actually owns the club if he refuses to make a go of it.
You never cease to amaze me!
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I've no idea where the idea that the budget is shit has come from. We've made 16 signings this season!
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I'd have loved to see what the doomsayers would have said if they'd been Leicester fans when they signed Jamie Vardy!
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“ Come on Terry, throw money hand over fist at Rovers without thinking, what sort of businessman do you call yourself, I don’t care if you’ve got reputably £500million, you don’t know what you’re doing. I could do better than you, I do when I’m playing on my computer “
There you go Ive saved you typing it
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I'd have loved to see what the doomsayers would have said if they'd been Leicester fans when they signed Jamie Vardy!
Probably similar to what most rovers fans said when we signed Alfie may
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I'd have loved to see what the doomsayers would have said if they'd been Leicester fans when they signed Jamie Vardy!
Probably similar to what most rovers fans said when we signed Alfie may
I know you're a WUM, but you are the reason we need an 'ignore' button on here....
The drivel and claptrap you come out with wears away at folk who want to support and discuss the team..
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
People do give players a chance but are entitled to an opinion on them before they play surely.
Byrne has been promoted to league 1 twice and not been trusted to play in league 1 twice, by two different managers. What makes us think differently?
The other big thing is that he’s not coming in to make up the numbers in a side that’s comfortable, he’s coming in to hopefully help drag us out of the horrible mess we are in. When signing players it’s all about assessing the level of risk and likelihood of success. These things are never binary but on any scale this looks a pretty high risk of not succeeding to the level it needs to.
We are chronically under achieving, recruitment has been awful it’s, fairly easy for people not to trust the process at the minute.
The thing is, if you form an opinion before ever seeing him play, you’re starting off negatively, then whatever he does will be twisted negatively, just to prove yourself right.
Football is all about opinions, and just because one person doesn’t fancy you doesn’t mean you’re no good, football is littered with examples
We’ve seen him play against us three times in the last 15 months.
Everyone been saying he’s been back up for league 2 teams for the last 2 years! Yet he played in every game he could have against us?
And pretty sure nobody remembers what a random centre half played like against us a year ago
He played at the same level as us last season. Really easy to run the numbers and compare him to Olowu, Jay, Wood, Anderson, and Bobby who have had plenty of minutes playing centre half at L2 level of late. I have done just that.
Any chance we could get a summary mate?
I'm of the opinion that Olowu is streets ahead of the lot. Would be interesting to also see how Bobby and Jay are comparing.
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Give Byrne a chance , disgraceful that abuse he’s receiving before kicking a ball for us - he’s here to play and hopefully help us worse case scenario is he’s worse than what we have and someone comes back in who’s under performed this season we’ve got nothing to lose !!!
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There is some bollox written on here... we have signed a player who has played nearly 500 senior games, is therefore experienced enough and will know what is required of him at this level.
Some of the comments are shocking - especially as most will never have even heard of him before his name was rumoured recently. Give the lad a bloody chance...!!
Thats the thing, he DOESNT know what's required at this level because hes never played at this level
Yes he has!
699 minutes accross his ENTIRE career
So he has played at this level, glad you agree!
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Problem being he's probably as he was in his previous clubs for a short time--a perfectly adequate 4th choice defender-- can't argue he isn't.
But other day Grant said he goes straight into the starting 11, maybe the post match frustration got the better of him, his private thoughts could be different now from his public utterance then and now he's reflected.
If he hasn't and Byrne starts then we're seeing screeching handbrake turns that mirror Kowtow Keir Starmer's way.
Both keepers ditched, dumping of Mr Rapido pace and the original first choice forwards for Frankie to start, Middleton doesn't seem to have a defined role, even when he does eventually get on the pitch, moving Bailey back after telling him all season to get into the opposition box and now dumping someone brought in on a two year contract as organiser and senior figure in defence for a short term loanee.
Perhaps Grant should've gone on an end of season break after all?
Maybe it's bluffing and Pearson starts tonight as he was always planned to?
Doesn't feel that way but that's my hope.
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There’s a fair bit of false equivalence in this thread with the comparisons to us signing Owen Bailey & Leicester signing Jamie Vardy.
Our defence is a shambles at the minute and we desperately need one, if not two new centre halves of real quality to fix it. Byrne will get my unwavering support when he plays but it’s not unreasonable to be concerned if this is it. It’s extremely unlikely that a player who is 32 and hasn’t been able to hold down a place in the league below for the last few years after a career in non-league is going to be the solution. He might be, but the odds aren’t in our favour. Based on player profiles, what’s the difference between him and Pearson? Same age, same size, seemingly same profile (except, contrary to fan opinion, McCann says Byrne is quick…). Is he really going to be an upgrade on someone that McCann has so quickly discarded?
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Let’s give the lad a chance. He might not have got in other teams but just maybe he will do good for us. He will want to prove a point.
People say we need a centre half. We get one and people slate him, the manager, even TB. Get a grip people. We are where we are in the league. It’s not a lost cause yet. Look where Peterborough were and are now. Some positive results and it changes.
People were saying Gotts wasn’t up to league 1 standard. Different views now.
Give people a chance
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Let’s give the lad a chance. He might not have got in other teams but just maybe he will do good for us. He will want to prove a point.
People say we need a centre half. We get one and people slate him, the manager, even TB. Get a grip people. We are where we are in the league. It’s not a lost cause yet. Look where Peterborough were and are now. Some positive results and it changes.
Mentioning Peterborough isn't the win you think it is for the points you've made.
They being in a worse position that we currently are when Fergie was removed.
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Lots of moaning before hes kicked a ball, give the bloke a chance.
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I think it’s worth considering that the teams he has found it difficult to break into have been teams on the up with the resources to sign high quality players thus lots of competition. Also the fact that both Stockport and Bradford signed him shows they saw something in him!
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I think it’s worth considering that the teams he has found it difficult to break into have been teams on the up with the resources to sign high quality players thus lots of competition. Also the fact that both Stockport and Bradford signed him shows they saw something in him!
Those points have already been made, he did find it difficult securing a regular place in League 2 for both Bradford and Stockport. He did find a more regular place for Hartlepool and FC Halifax.
Is that what you were getting at?
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Smyth- I mentioned Peterborough to just prove a change in results can alter things. Irrelevant who is there manager. Just an observation
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I think it’s worth considering that the teams he has found it difficult to break into have been teams on the up with the resources to sign high quality players thus lots of competition. Also the fact that both Stockport and Bradford signed him shows they saw something in him!
We finished above Bradford last season. Doing the double over them in the process. Now we’re signing their deadwood to save us.
Players above him in the pecking order signed this season are Joe Wright and Curtis Tilt. Nothing that would have been out of our reach, especially Tilt who I don’t rate.
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Will give him a chance. But I'm not seeing what he brings that we don't already have in the squad?
He’s cheap ?
He has an Irish name?
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Reminds me of the Swansea Supporters board, they have a space for UNRESERVED BLEATING !
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I've no idea where the idea that the budget is shit has come from. We've made 16 signings this season!
I don't think the budget is the problem it's how it's used. We've got far too many players.
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Come on lads, everyone knows I think we have missed used what we have already in the house, but give the club, management, and the lad a break.
People were sceptical about Anderson the first half of last season and fornicated over McGrath and Anderson just being the no nonsense steady Eddy was the main reason we did so well.
Any two from Baily, Pearson, and Byrne could be the way forward and against Huddersfield play Flint and Faulkner if available and see what they can bring to the party next season. You might just get a shock.
I think we could well have more to look forward to than many realise if we have the b****cks to take a chance.
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Give Byrne a chance , disgraceful that abuse he’s receiving before kicking a ball for us -
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Come on lads, everyone knows I think we have missed used what we have already in the house, but give the club, management, and the lad a break.
People were sceptical about Anderson the first half of last season and fornicated over McGrath and Anderson just being the no nonsense steady Eddy was the main reason we did so well.
Any two from Baily, Pearson, and Byrne could be the way forward and against Huddersfield play Flint and Faulkner if available and see what they can bring to the party next season. You might just get a shock.
I think we could well have more to look forward to than many realise if we have the b****cks to take a chance.
Beginning to think you're getting paid heavily from Flint and Faulkner to promote them Selby haha!
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Reply to #104 above
Agree and I remember Etheridge I think it was , a young Keeper from Accrington getting panned before he'd caught a ball because the first interview he gave to the Club was judged as a pathetic , nervous ramble and which he never recovered from
He made some errors early on , got the crowd ( some of them ) on his back and the sad thing I remember he was dropped to Sub , but had to come on in a home game and was jeered as he came on and walked towards the South Stand
Poor bugger
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Only on Viking Chat could we have 115 comments about a guy who has not even kicked a ball yet.
Welcome to the squad, Neill, and not all our fans are miserable so-and-so's.
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Come on lads, everyone knows I think we have missed used what we have already in the house, but give the club, management, and the lad a break.
People were sceptical about Anderson the first half of last season and fornicated over McGrath and Anderson just being the no nonsense steady Eddy was the main reason we did so well.
Any two from Baily, Pearson, and Byrne could be the way forward and against Huddersfield play Flint and Faulkner if available and see what they can bring to the party next season. You might just get a shock.
I think we could well have more to look forward to than many realise if we have the b****cks to take a chance.
Beginning to think you're getting paid heavily from Flint and Faulkner to promote them Selby haha!
Bobby's basic defending stats for this season at Harrogate compare favourably with Olowu, Anderson & McGrath's data from L2 2024/25.
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I think it’s worth considering that the teams he has found it difficult to break into have been teams on the up with the resources to sign high quality players thus lots of competition. Also the fact that both Stockport and Bradford signed him shows they saw something in him!
We finished above Bradford last season. Doing the double over them in the process. Now we’re signing their deadwood to save us.
Players above him in the pecking order signed this season are Joe Wright and Curtis Tilt. Nothing that would have been out of our reach, especially Tilt who I don’t rate.
We’ve signed plenty of players over the years that weren’t playing regularly for their club , they then turned out to be very good signings for us.
It’s pretty irrelevent.
Football is all about opinions.
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Fal, actually trying to use a bit of sense , we have two older end defenders and we have Bailey who has hardly missed a minute this season and can be ready to come on if needed, and others who are in poor form and I have no confidence in are even good enough for this level.
Flint has already had two very good games in this competition, and Bobby has played well in division 2 and is very close to fitness probably will be back at Harrogate but both can play in this competition I think, can give a low risk indication of where they are at, and face it can't do much worse than what has been dished up by some defenders this season who want taking out of the firing line for themselves and to give us a chance of getting out of danger.
Out of the four players we have two, McGrath and Grehan who must be shot of confidence and two who would be full of it, and deserve a chance.
And I will not hide behind the fact I think are better players.
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Not really excited by this signing but I'll still get behind him .
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Spoke to two county fans who both said the same.... A good player and don't know why we released him.
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I for one will base my judgment on how he performs for us, particularly games where I can see him live.
I hope he does well and makes us more difficult for the opposition to get soft goals.
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I'm hoping for a solid game at the back and a last minute winner from Neill....
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Spoke to two county fans who both said the same.... A good player and don't know why we released him.
Think Bradford bought him didn’t they for undisclosed fee
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Byrne starts tonight alongside McGrath. Bailey back in midfield. No Pearson or Grehan on bench.
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Nobody here slating thee fella yet.... must be having a good game eh....
Time to deflate yourselves and eat a bit of humble...
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Can I just say that McGrath has had a good game tonight... fully on it and fully at it... No showboating just conventional defending.. and my MotM
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Well well well, he has played very well hasnt he and seems quite quick.
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Byrne was constantly talking to McGrath, Senior and Sterry all game.
Looked like he’d been with us all. Season
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Crap player by all means. Like I said give these players a chance
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A good first game for Byrne. Did nothing wrong.
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He gets my vote.
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Filo could have played in the back four tonight with his pipe and slippers on. They were abysmal. One missed header in the first half but apart from that he didn’t put a foot wrong. They didn’t have a shot in anger.
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Fair play well done. Just need to do it every game now
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Many wanted him replacing McGrath and keeping Bails at the back. Well I'm glad to say Grant knows best!
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Didn't put a foot wrong. Granted against a poor team, but we've played a lot of poor teams this season and still managed to ship goals. Clean sheet on your debut, can't ask any more.
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I think it’s worth considering that the teams he has found it difficult to break into have been teams on the up with the resources to sign high quality players thus lots of competition. Also the fact that both Stockport and Bradford signed him shows they saw something in him!
We finished above Bradford last season. Doing the double over them in the process. Now we’re signing their deadwood to save us.
Players above him in the pecking order signed this season are Joe Wright and Curtis Tilt. Nothing that would have been out of our reach, especially Tilt who I don’t rate.
Well, he was quality tonight, and not only that he made everyone around him look more solid too.
Maybe next time folk will wait until they’ve seen the chap play before they write paragraphs and paragraphs of negative drivel
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He looked good but it was only orient let's see how he carries on in the coming games
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He was absolutely fine tonight and fair play to him. Wasn't tested at all tho. Bigger tests to come but a nice start for him.
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I didn't get to watch the game online tonight, but happy to hear he did well.
Let's not be too critical if us fans that were disappointed with the loan signing, afterall we are only wanting our club to do well.
Hope he has an Indian summer with us.
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He was playing against probably the best striker in the division tonight, he didn’t get a kick
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I think it’s worth considering that the teams he has found it difficult to break into have been teams on the up with the resources to sign high quality players thus lots of competition. Also the fact that both Stockport and Bradford signed him shows they saw something in him!
We finished above Bradford last season. Doing the double over them in the process. Now we’re signing their deadwood to save us.
Players above him in the pecking order signed this season are Joe Wright and Curtis Tilt. Nothing that would have been out of our reach, especially Tilt who I don’t rate.
Well, he was quality tonight, and not only that he made everyone around him look more solid too.
Maybe next time folk will wait until they’ve seen the chap play before they write paragraphs and paragraphs of negative drivel
I’m glad it went well tonight like yourself dickos.
I’m still sceptical though as it’s only one game and I have every right to have that opinion.
I hope he proves me wrong so you can continue to act high and mighty. That would be great!
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Rubbish Mccann :)
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We didn’t chase more goals after the third went in and were organised at the back, nothing flashy just proper solid defending. McCann also didn’t make mass subs which kept our shape better. Yes, Orient were woeful but we were far better organised and if we’d done that on Saturday we would have won that too.
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Did what he had to tonight, good start
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Filo could have played in the back four tonight with his pipe and slippers on. They were abysmal. One missed header in the first half but apart from that he didn’t put a foot wrong. They didn’t have a shot in anger.
Its nice you’ve recognised my defensive prowess lol!
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I think it’s worth considering that the teams he has found it difficult to break into have been teams on the up with the resources to sign high quality players thus lots of competition. Also the fact that both Stockport and Bradford signed him shows they saw something in him!
We finished above Bradford last season. Doing the double over them in the process. Now we’re signing their deadwood to save us.
Players above him in the pecking order signed this season are Joe Wright and Curtis Tilt. Nothing that would have been out of our reach, especially Tilt who I don’t rate.
Well, he was quality tonight, and not only that he made everyone around him look more solid too.
Maybe next time folk will wait until they’ve seen the chap play before they write paragraphs and paragraphs of negative drivel
I’m glad it went well tonight like yourself dickos.
I’m still sceptical though as it’s only one game and I have every right to have that opinion.
I hope he proves me wrong so you can continue to act high and mighty. That would be great!
Fine to have the opinion, but the reaction not just by you was massively over the top, we’ve got 7 points from 9, should be 9 from 9,
I think every performance since the Blackpool game has been very good
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Dream debut for the lad, not to testing and nicely settled in with an upturn in his partner to boot.
If you could ask for the perfect game to get you off and running this was it, nice to see we did today what we should have done on sat and settle the game down to suit us, like a training match for the last 30 mins but it demonstrated that we can dig in and protect out lead.
Good to see some lessons learnt and acted upon from all the squad, we are now looking good offensively and the clean sheet will give the defence some confidence.
Thought Francis kept at it right up to his departure, on another day he could have had a couple, coming on nicely.
The move for OB's second goal was a work of art.
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Lot of people totally lost the plot yesterday. Absolutely lost it. The lad may have better games and may have poorer games, but read back this thread with a clear head. People need to get real.
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MM, they have been made to look poor by a team where everyone has played well and we have played most of the game in their half and the defence and keeper very little Pressure on them, so a well done credit where it's due.
Bailey and the mid field have won us the game., and after the build up to the game and the crap aimed at him Byrne deserves some praise as he never put a foot wrong but will have have bigger tests than they provided, Richie's antics on the side line was also great entertainment.
Bailey MOM.
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I thought he had a solid game. Could hear him organising the others around him which was needed. He has a little bit of the dark arts about him aswell, some antics off the ball and making the most of a late challenge at the end. We have been lacking anyone with that. Did slice one on edge of box early on and think he missed a header early on too but didnt shake him.
I'd say a solid 6/10 in a quietish game.
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MM, they have been made to look poor by a team where everyone has played well and we have played most of the game in their half and the defence and keeper very little Pressure on them, so a well done credit where it's due.
Bailey and the mid field have won us the game., and after the build up to the game and the crap aimed at him Byrne deserves some praise as he never put a foot wrong but will have have bigger tests than they provided, Richie's antics on the side line was also great entertainment.
Bailey MOM.
Yep, Wellens's apoplexy on the sidelines was a joy to behold.
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I think it probably is we needed a gobby git in defence, which he appears to be so maybe Grant does know what we needed. :)
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Lot of people totally lost the plot yesterday. Absolutely lost it. The lad may have better games and may have poorer games, but read back this thread with a clear head. People need to get real.
Not arf. McCanns description of him was alot nearer than those on this thread.
Just in the way he looked and handled himself, it was if Conor O'Riordon had never left. Plus, had a bit more experience to call upon. Some might say it was a weakened Orient team, but they still had Dom Ballard who was kept very quiet.
Our back 4 tonight we're excellent throughout. Very encouraging.
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A really good debut.
He looked calm, assured, alert.
Basically, just what we needed.
There is a comment above that it was a good opportunity for him to make his debut, against a poor side.
But you could equally argue that if we’d had his sort of composure on Saturday we’d have won that game too, against an equally poor side.
Anyway, well done Neill on an excellent debut.
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Easiest night he will have had in his career to date. But very switched on, decent contacts on clearances and McGrath also looked comfortable at the side of him.
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Filo could have played in the back four tonight with his pipe and slippers on. They were abysmal. One missed header in the first half but apart from that he didn’t put a foot wrong. They didn’t have a shot in anger.
Bit unfair that, Gaz. They were up against the best striker in League 1. The fact that he did nothing might be due to the fact that he wasn't allowed to.
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Filo could have played in the back four tonight with his pipe and slippers on. They were abysmal. One missed header in the first half but apart from that he didn’t put a foot wrong. They didn’t have a shot in anger.
Bit unfair that, Gaz. They were up against the best striker in League 1. The fact that he did nothing might be due to the fact that he wasn't allowed to.
He didn’t have an ounce of service. Extremely comfortably night for all of the back for. Hopefully they have another 19 comfortable ones before the end of the season.
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Way too early to call, but it was a satisfying start for him which is pleasing. Far bigger tests lay ahead that’s for sure, so reserving judgement for now. Orient were rank bad and could definitely be in the relegation mix at the end of the season if they carry on this type of form, especially away.
Would very much doubt he can play on Saturday, so it will again be a case of who plays there alongside McGrath.
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He did nothing wrong, but he didnt have anything to do.
Really surprised just how bad orient were
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Filo could have played in the back four tonight with his pipe and slippers on. They were abysmal. One missed header in the first half but apart from that he didn’t put a foot wrong. They didn’t have a shot in anger.
Except the one that hit the post :)
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You can only play what's in front of you, as they say. Did nothing wrong the lad, looks like he'll get the basics right for us - competing, winning duals, headers etc, and he was giving their forwards a tough time which is what you want.
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Did his job, no messing onto next one
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Filo could have played in the back four tonight with his pipe and slippers on. They were abysmal. One missed header in the first half but apart from that he didn’t put a foot wrong. They didn’t have a shot in anger.
Bit unfair that, Gaz. They were up against the best striker in League 1. The fact that he did nothing might be due to the fact that he wasn't allowed to.
Certainly didn’t get ‘ripped a new one’ scawsby.
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I think it’s worth considering that the teams he has found it difficult to break into have been teams on the up with the resources to sign high quality players thus lots of competition. Also the fact that both Stockport and Bradford signed him shows they saw something in him!
We finished above Bradford last season. Doing the double over them in the process. Now we’re signing their deadwood to save us.
Players above him in the pecking order signed this season are Joe Wright and Curtis Tilt. Nothing that would have been out of our reach, especially Tilt who I don’t rate.
Well, he was quality tonight, and not only that he made everyone around him look more solid too.
Maybe next time folk will wait until they’ve seen the chap play before they write paragraphs and paragraphs of negative drivel
They won't
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I think it’s worth considering that the teams he has found it difficult to break into have been teams on the up with the resources to sign high quality players thus lots of competition. Also the fact that both Stockport and Bradford signed him shows they saw something in him!
We finished above Bradford last season. Doing the double over them in the process. Now we’re signing their deadwood to save us.
Players above him in the pecking order signed this season are Joe Wright and Curtis Tilt. Nothing that would have been out of our reach, especially Tilt who I don’t rate.
Well, he was quality tonight, and not only that he made everyone around him look more solid too.
Maybe next time folk will wait until they’ve seen the chap play before they write paragraphs and paragraphs of negative drivel
I’m glad it went well tonight like yourself dickos.
I’m still sceptical though as it’s only one game and I have every right to have that opinion.
I hope he proves me wrong so you can continue to act high and mighty. That would be great!
Fine to have the opinion, but the reaction not just by you was massively over the top, we’ve got 7 points from 9, should be 9 from 9,
I think every performance since the Blackpool game has been very good
Do I have your permission to say I think a new singing is a good signing before I’ve seen them play as well? Or is that different? I’ve done that plenty.
Think I’m a balanced poster to be fair. Always positive in the stands and cheer the boys on. There’s a small number of whingers and people who bring them down there. That’s not me.
Thought the Wigan fans on Saturday were poor in doing that.
I probs was OTT on Byrne a bit but Saturday just got to me I think.
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He was playing against probably the best striker in the division tonight, he didn’t get a kick
Dickos thinking we've signed a prime john terry after seeing him play in 1 match where he had nothing to do :lol: :lol: :lol:
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He never shut up the whole game, pointing and directing. Very solid debut
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He was integral in the move that got us the pen, albeit from a marginal offside position. Up there in the box fighting for the ball.
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He never shut up the whole game, pointing and directing. Very solid debut
That’s what we’ve missed from Pearson
COYR
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If he can fill the void left by big tom, thats fine by me..
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Filo could have played in the back four tonight with his pipe and slippers on. They were abysmal. One missed header in the first half but apart from that he didn’t put a foot wrong. They didn’t have a shot in anger.
Bit unfair that, Gaz. They were up against the best striker in League 1. The fact that he did nothing might be due to the fact that he wasn't allowed to.
Certainly didn’t get ‘ripped a new one’ scawsby.
Yeah, I'll hold my hands up on that one. I'd still got bad memories of being sat in the stands at Orient, when he ripped us a new one 3 times.
Thank God we turned up against them this time.
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Be interesting to see what happens saturday now. Heard Pearson is in discussions with 2 clubs. Could be bull sh*t but would explain his absences from match day squads of recent if him and GM have had words.
He was at the game last night and came out afterwards in kit for some drills with Grehan and Hanlan.
So IF Pearson leaves then Byrne to replace him makes sense, they are similar players.....which ultimately means we haven't or possibly aren't replacing CO'R?
Personally I thought we needed 2 x CBs without Pearson leaving.
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He was playing against probably the best striker in the division tonight, he didn’t get a kick
Dickos thinking we've signed a prime john terry after seeing him play in 1 match where he had nothing to do :lol: :lol: :lol:
You’re an odd chap aren’t you?
You should be embarrassed with the nonsense you posted about him before you’d seen him play. It’s pretty evident you have no idea about football, so be a good idea to stop embarrassing yourself on here every day
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All we need back there is a solid player who does the basics well. Also a player with some experience to help our young centre backs develop, I think he is a decent signing, yes he will have more challenging games but he was nice and steady, which is what we need.
It allows the forwards to have more confidence in doing their jobs, and as we saw Bailey released into a midfield role that gives our team more goal threat.
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All we need back there is a solid player who does the basics well. Also a player with some experience to help our young centre backs develop, I think he is a decent signing, yes he will have more challenging games but he was nice and steady, which is what we need.
It allows the forwards to have more confidence in doing their jobs, and as we saw Bailey released into a midfield role that gives our team more goal threat.
Especially so now that we have wingers on both sides who are capable of running through defenders and need constant marking to inhibit them getting posession.
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He was playing against probably the best striker in the division tonight, he didn’t get a kick
Dickos thinking we've signed a prime john terry after seeing him play in 1 match where he had nothing to do :lol: :lol: :lol:
You’re an odd chap aren’t you?
You should be embarrassed with the nonsense you posted about him before you’d seen him play. It’s pretty evident you have no idea about football, so be a good idea to stop embarrassing yourself on here every day
You lost all credibility and respect years ago.
If it was up to you, we'd still have schofield as manager and be playing in the conference north
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You lost all credibility and respect years ago.
If it was up to you, we'd still have schofield as manager and be playing in the conference north
And if we we were you'd be delighted at having something with actual substance to whinge about.
If only you'd had any credibility and respect to lose in the first place...
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He never shut up the whole game, pointing and directing. Very solid debut
Great stuff. I’m delighted to be eating a large slice of humble pie about him.
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You lost all credibility and respect years ago.
If it was up to you, we'd still have schofield as manager and be playing in the conference north
Dickos has voiced his opinions, whatever people thought about them, & kept the same user name since he registered with this forum - have you?
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He was playing against probably the best striker in the division tonight, he didn’t get a kick
Dickos thinking we've signed a prime john terry after seeing him play in 1 match where he had nothing to do :lol: :lol: :lol:
You’re an odd chap aren’t you?
You should be embarrassed with the nonsense you posted about him before you’d seen him play. It’s pretty evident you have no idea about football, so be a good idea to stop embarrassing yourself on here every day
You lost all credibility and respect years ago.
If it was up to you, we'd still have schofield as manager and be playing in the conference north
In Schofield's defence, we would probably be in the Conference North now, regardless of who was in charge, with the budget he had.