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Title: Sheff Weds
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 22, 2026, 12:05:03 pm
If they lose today they are down. With a week to go in February. Never heard of a side being relegated so early.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on February 22, 2026, 12:08:44 pm
It’s a new record apparently. They might also beat our 97/98 points ‘record’ which is still the lowest in a 46 game season.

Looks like they’re struggling in the derby!
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 22, 2026, 12:10:03 pm
Will they get a points deduction for next season also? What a mess.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Fal on February 22, 2026, 12:13:32 pm
They are also on course to beat our outstanding records of most defeats in a season and least amount of points if im right...
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: goalkick on February 22, 2026, 12:19:22 pm
What an easy goal they have just given away.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Rupee92ONLY on February 22, 2026, 12:20:10 pm
Beautiful isn’t it.

A more deluded fanbase I am yet to experience. And I have some family who are Wednesday.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: MachoMadness on February 22, 2026, 12:26:12 pm
Dieng picking the ball out the net inside 2 minutes. I actually thought Wednesday would offer a bit more fight than this, they need a big turnaround next season.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Fal on February 22, 2026, 12:29:35 pm
Stats

Looking to avoid the history books
With 14 games to go, Wednesday are also in danger of setting several more unwanted EFL records, including:

No team has ever ended a season on minus points. The Owls, who have won 11 points from 32 games so far, need seven from 14 matches to avoid this.

Allowing for three points a game, the fewest points a team has ever picked up in a Football League season is Loughborough with nine in 1899-1900. In more recent times, Derby County went down from the Premier League with 11 points in the 2007-08 season. The all-time low for a 46-game season is Doncaster Rovers' 20 points in 1997-98.

The record for the most defeats in a 46-game league season also belongs to Doncaster with 34 in the 1997-98 campaign. Wednesday have lost 23 of their first 32 games, meaning 12 defeats in their remaining 14 matches would see them break that record.

The most consecutive defeats suffered by a team in one season was by Darwen way back in the 1898-99 season with 18. Since the second tier was rebranded as the Championship, the record for the most successive defeats is Rotherham's 10 in the 2016-17 season. Pedersen's side have lost their past nine games.

In a 46-game season, the fewest wins a team has ever managed is Rochdale's two as they were relegated from the third tier in 1973-74.

Wednesday's only win this season came away from home, meaning the Owls are now just six games from becoming the first Football League team to go an entire season without a home win.

The farthest adrift a team has finished is Stoke City in the 1984-85 season. They finished 33 points from safety in the top tier. At present, the Owls are 41 points behind 21st-placed West Brom.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 22, 2026, 12:29:59 pm
I know that they will be a psychological basket case but that squad isn't the very worst you have ever seen. Quite a lot of established Championship players.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: LincsRover on February 22, 2026, 12:40:41 pm
Relegated in record time, with a record low points total, at Brammal Lane. How bad can it get? Maybe a double figure number of goals? It’s not looking impossible? :facepalm:
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 22, 2026, 12:42:49 pm
I know that they will be a psychologically basket case but that squad isn't the very worst you have ever seen. Quite a lot of established Championship players.

You wouldn't know it, watching them. They are shocking.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: MachoMadness on February 22, 2026, 01:16:00 pm
I know that they will be a psychologically basket case but that squad isn't the very worst you have ever seen. Quite a lot of established Championship players.

You wouldn't know it, watching them. They are shocking.
They don't look well coached. Constantly offside. Look like competition winners.

Handed a massive lifeline now though.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: DonnyNoel on February 22, 2026, 01:21:19 pm
I know that they will be a psychological basket case but that squad isn't the very worst you have ever seen. Quite a lot of established Championship players.

Bloke I work with gets to most home games. Says they satrted the seasn quite well with a bit of fire but the second deduction killed all that and everyone seemed to down tools a bit then.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 22, 2026, 01:35:12 pm
I know that they will be a psychologically basket case but that squad isn't the very worst you have ever seen. Quite a lot of established Championship players.

You wouldn't know it, watching them. They are shocking.
They don't look well coached. Constantly offside. Look like competition winners.

Handed a massive lifeline now though.

They are just clueless. First rule of playing against 10 men. Keep the ball. Move it from flank to flank quickly. Make the opponents work hard and stretch them. Openings will emerge.

What are they doing? Couple of slow passes at the back then a 60 yard lump down the line. You honestly wouldn't guess they were a man up
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: GazLaz on February 22, 2026, 01:38:26 pm
They have had 18 points deducted. Not normal circumstances is it.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 22, 2026, 01:51:15 pm
They have had 18 points deducted. Not normal circumstances is it.

Doesn't change the basics of how you play football.

That performance I've just watched, with pride a stake, was utterly dreadful. They'll go straight down again if they don't get a big injection of funds.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: GazLaz on February 22, 2026, 01:54:16 pm
They have had 18 points deducted. Not normal circumstances is it.

Doesn't change the basics of how you play football.

That performance I've just watched, with pride a stake, was utterly dreadful. They'll go straight down again if they don't get a big injection of funds.

I agree about the relegation next year. I have pretty close links to their new “preferred bidder”. God help them is all I’ll say.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Northants Nomad on February 22, 2026, 01:56:12 pm
Assuming we are in League One next season, I'm sure we will enjoy helping them on their way to a spell in League Two. Big time charlies, about to get a dose of reality.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: glosterred on February 22, 2026, 02:14:28 pm
1 win and 8 draws all season so far, not picked up a point in the last 10 games. It might be early but they were going down anyway


Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: MachoMadness on February 22, 2026, 02:36:48 pm
They have had 18 points deducted. Not normal circumstances is it.
No, but they'd still be 20 odd points adrift without the deduction.

I think they'll be alright once they're sold, big club with a comparatively big fanbase for league one, so you'd think they could attract decent enough players. Although if the rumours are true and its a crypto guy, they might soon wish they had Chansiri back.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Barmby Rover on February 22, 2026, 03:41:43 pm
Oh dear, what a shame, never mind! I am not sure if we will play them next season, they have a distinct chance of being closed down I would have thought.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 22, 2026, 03:48:49 pm
They have had 18 points deducted. Not normal circumstances is it.
No, but they'd still be 20 odd points adrift without the deduction.

I think they'll be alright once they're sold, big club with a comparatively big fanbase for league one, so you'd think they could attract decent enough players. Although if the rumours are true and its a crypto guy, they might soon wish they had Chansiri back.
Is that right? CryptoMan?

Jesus, that's fishier than their previous owner...
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Drover on February 22, 2026, 04:48:07 pm
They have had 18 points deducted. Not normal circumstances is it.
No, but they'd still be 20 odd points adrift without the deduction.

I think they'll be alright once they're sold, big club with a comparatively big fanbase for league one, so you'd think they could attract decent enough players. Although if the rumours are true and its a crypto guy, they might soon wish they had Chansiri back.
Is that right? CryptoMan?

Jesus, that's fishier than their previous owner...
Cryptosporidium? That would mean the club going down the pan fast!
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Stocksbridge Owl on February 24, 2026, 01:46:51 pm
There are all sorts of rumours doing the rounds at the moment, from a local multi millionaire to owners of NFL clubs in the States looking to buy the club. That’s all they are right now though, rumours.

The club itself is in disarray. Yes we have a large fan base but that only gets you so far because everything else is frankly terrible.

I know that it doesn’t always seem this way but I have to say that some of you guys at Donny really don’t realise how fortunate you are to have what you do.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: GazLaz on February 24, 2026, 01:48:32 pm
There are all sorts of rumours doing the rounds at the moment, from a local multi millionaire to owners of NFL clubs in the States looking to buy the club. That’s all they are right now though, rumours.

The club itself is in disarray. Yes we have a large fan base but that only gets you so far because everything else is frankly terrible.

James Bord is the preferred bidder.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Barmby Rover on February 24, 2026, 01:50:54 pm
There are all sorts of rumours doing the rounds at the moment, from a local multi millionaire to owners of NFL clubs in the States looking to buy the club. That’s all they are right now though, rumours.

The club itself is in disarray. Yes we have a large fan base but that only gets you so far because everything else is frankly terrible.

I know that it doesn’t always seem this way but I have to say that some of you guys at Donny really don’t realise how fortunate you are to have what you do.

I hope the new owners have LOTS of money, I would imagine that 50-60 million needs to be spent on just getting the stadium into a fit state before any players get bought.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: One_Matty_Lucas on February 24, 2026, 01:59:09 pm
There are all sorts of rumours doing the rounds at the moment, from a local multi millionaire to owners of NFL clubs in the States looking to buy the club. That’s all they are right now though, rumours.

The club itself is in disarray. Yes we have a large fan base but that only gets you so far because everything else is frankly terrible.

James Bord is the preferred bidder.

I can see the protests already, Sack the Bord!
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: GazLaz on February 24, 2026, 02:01:07 pm
There are all sorts of rumours doing the rounds at the moment, from a local multi millionaire to owners of NFL clubs in the States looking to buy the club. That’s all they are right now though, rumours.

The club itself is in disarray. Yes we have a large fan base but that only gets you so far because everything else is frankly terrible.

I know that it doesn’t always seem this way but I have to say that some of you guys at Donny really don’t realise how fortunate you are to have what you do.

I hope the new owners have LOTS of money, I would imagine that 50-60 million needs to be spent on just getting the stadium into a fit state before any players get bought.

The Sheffield Wednesday project is a £200m+ project  to even think about attacking the Premier league. That's why nobody serious is interested in buying them. There's just very little upside vs the risk. I know two of the parties that have been mentioned over the last 6 months or so and anyone that has any credibility has run a mile when they looked at the numbers.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on February 24, 2026, 03:36:41 pm
I don't take any satisfaction in their demise either as their relegation is due to their points deductions and transfer embargoes. If it was just down to being crap due to poor on the pitch, choice of players and managers, then fair enough.
 
They need to exist for them to be a rival so I hope they get taken over by genuine owners but, it's not looking great at the moment.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: ForsolongaRover on February 24, 2026, 03:41:27 pm
There are all sorts of rumours doing the rounds at the moment, from a local multi millionaire to owners of NFL clubs in the States looking to buy the club. That’s all they are right now though, rumours.

The club itself is in disarray. Yes we have a large fan base but that only gets you so far because everything else is frankly terrible.

I know that it doesn’t always seem this way but I have to say that some of you guys at Donny really don’t realise how fortunate you are to have what you do.

I hope the new owners have LOTS of money, I would imagine that 50-60 million needs to be spent on just getting the stadium into a fit state before any players get bought.

The Sheffield Wednesday project is a £200m+ project  to even think about attacking the Premier league. That's why nobody serious is interested in buying them. There's just very little upside vs the risk. I know two of the parties that have been mentioned over the last 6 months or so and anyone that has any credibility has run a mile when they looked at the numbers.

I apologise if these questions have been answered already, but how long will the club’s position in the EFL be guaranteed? In its insolvent state there is surely a time limit on how long they can continue to trade.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: selby on February 24, 2026, 04:01:02 pm
It used to be they had to show proof of the funds to being able to fulfil the next seasons fixtures by a certain date which I think was June the first prior to the seasons start but am not 100% sure of the date.
 Bolton might have put a spanner in the works  with that idea, and certainly Leeds, Leicester City and Southampton have dodged the bullet as well in the past, however Bradford Park Avenue, Chester, Hereford , Macclesfield and one or two others seem to have been disposable 
 if it suited.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on February 24, 2026, 06:47:46 pm
There are all sorts of rumours doing the rounds at the moment, from a local multi millionaire to owners of NFL clubs in the States looking to buy the club. That’s all they are right now though, rumours.

The club itself is in disarray. Yes we have a large fan base but that only gets you so far because everything else is frankly terrible.

I know that it doesn’t always seem this way but I have to say that some of you guys at Donny really don’t realise how fortunate you are to have what you do.

I hope the new owners have LOTS of money, I would imagine that 50-60 million needs to be spent on just getting the stadium into a fit state before any players get bought.

The Sheffield Wednesday project is a £200m+ project  to even think about attacking the Premier league. That's why nobody serious is interested in buying them. There's just very little upside vs the risk. I know two of the parties that have been mentioned over the last 6 months or so and anyone that has any credibility has run a mile when they looked at the numbers.

I apologise if these questions have been answered already, but how long will the club’s position in the EFL be guaranteed? In its insolvent state there is surely a time limit on how long they can continue to trade.

That can depend on many factors which will be overseen by the administrator, who will report to the EFL periodically and if they're assured a deal is likely and the club can generate sufficient funds to operate, the EFL will want to give the benefit of doubt.

In Boltons case, when it dragged on and on, The EFL did issue a notice to quit (can't recall the official name) but in effect if the administrator couldn't conclude the sale within 30 days, then they were toast.

From what I hear about Wednesdays case, the EfL have issues with all of the potential new owners within the consortium satisfying  the  owners and directors tests plus potential issues with funding coming from the proceeds of gambling.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: ForsolongaRover on February 24, 2026, 07:33:13 pm
Thanks Selby. I expect Stocksbridge may have something to add.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: MachoMadness on February 25, 2026, 02:40:46 pm
Takeover collapsed after the preferred bidder pulled out. Essentially seems like the club isnt worth what they had bid for it.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Smyth on February 25, 2026, 02:42:20 pm
Highly likely to start next session on -15 points.
Nobody wants to pay to prevent that happening.

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-takeover-5611470
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Rupee92ONLY on February 25, 2026, 02:54:16 pm
When’s Mike Ashley coming back to the table?

I’ve said for ages he is easily the best option they could hope for.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: GazLaz on February 25, 2026, 03:10:12 pm
There are all sorts of rumours doing the rounds at the moment, from a local multi millionaire to owners of NFL clubs in the States looking to buy the club. That’s all they are right now though, rumours.

The club itself is in disarray. Yes we have a large fan base but that only gets you so far because everything else is frankly terrible.

I know that it doesn’t always seem this way but I have to say that some of you guys at Donny really don’t realise how fortunate you are to have what you do.

I hope the new owners have LOTS of money, I would imagine that 50-60 million needs to be spent on just getting the stadium into a fit state before any players get bought.

The Sheffield Wednesday project is a £200m+ project  to even think about attacking the Premier league. That's why nobody serious is interested in buying them. There's just very little upside vs the risk. I know two of the parties that have been mentioned over the last 6 months or so and anyone that has any credibility has run a mile when they looked at the numbers.

Bord has finally realised it won’t stack up financially. Don’t know why it took him so long, well I do, he’s clueless. Wednesday have dodged a bullet with him.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: MachoMadness on February 25, 2026, 04:02:56 pm
There are all sorts of rumours doing the rounds at the moment, from a local multi millionaire to owners of NFL clubs in the States looking to buy the club. That’s all they are right now though, rumours.

The club itself is in disarray. Yes we have a large fan base but that only gets you so far because everything else is frankly terrible.

I know that it doesn’t always seem this way but I have to say that some of you guys at Donny really don’t realise how fortunate you are to have what you do.

I hope the new owners have LOTS of money, I would imagine that 50-60 million needs to be spent on just getting the stadium into a fit state before any players get bought.

The Sheffield Wednesday project is a £200m+ project  to even think about attacking the Premier league. That's why nobody serious is interested in buying them. There's just very little upside vs the risk. I know two of the parties that have been mentioned over the last 6 months or so and anyone that has any credibility has run a mile when they looked at the numbers.

Bord has finally realised it won’t stack up financially. Don’t know why it took him so long, well I do, he’s clueless. Wednesday have dodged a bullet with him.
"We only just realised Hillsborough would cost a bomb to fix" seems to be the argument. Surely it doesnt take months of due diligence to discover that, a Google search would probably do it.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Rupee92ONLY on February 25, 2026, 04:20:03 pm
Or is it that Bord and co realise they won’t get accepted by the Government/EFL so have pulled out rather than fail it?
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Barmby Rover on February 25, 2026, 04:20:24 pm
It looks like they stagger on with the connivance of the EFL, if there is no credible buyer in place by the end of the season it should be closed down.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on February 25, 2026, 04:46:07 pm
Ashley and others don't want to pay Chansiri as a creditor (receiving x in the £) period and will probably now play Russian Roulette hoping Chansiri accepts walking away with virtually nothing rather than see the club be wound up.  Of course in that scenario there's scope for a Phoenix club to be formed but where that would start in the Pyramid I have no idea.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: rich1471 on February 25, 2026, 04:51:34 pm
When’s Mike Ashley coming back to the table?

I’ve said for ages he is easily the best option they could hope for.
said it all along he will get the club the administrators should be ashamed of themselves they are getting paid good money, Ashley was always going to get it but I feel they will get a points deducted next season as he will not pay the 30 million to avoid it
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: MachoMadness on February 25, 2026, 05:28:53 pm
https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2026/february/25/update-on-sale-process/

Nearly 50 million quid! Surely obvious from day one that was an insane valuation.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: drfchound on February 25, 2026, 06:48:12 pm
Ashley and others don't want to pay Chansiri as a creditor (receiving x in the £) period and will probably now play Russian Roulette hoping Chansiri accepts walking away with virtually nothing rather than see the club be wound up.  Of course in that scenario there's scope for a Phoenix club to be formed but where that would start in the Pyramid I have no idea.

Why not start them off again the same way that Bury and Macclesfield had to.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: ChrisBx on February 25, 2026, 06:54:34 pm
https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2026/february/25/update-on-sale-process/

Nearly 50 million quid! Surely obvious from day one that was an insane valuation.

Those involved in that bid have lost £4m by withdrawing!
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: keith79 on February 25, 2026, 07:41:27 pm
30 million for 15 points? Id take the money.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: DearneValleyRover on February 25, 2026, 10:18:45 pm
There will be more clubs that will go the same way as Wednesday, Sky viewing figures are falling off and it’s only a matter of time before they pull the plug
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: idler on February 26, 2026, 09:25:03 am
As always it is the genuine fans that have spent a fortune watching and supporting their club that will be picking up the pieces.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: GazLaz on February 26, 2026, 09:27:06 am
As always it is the genuine fans that have spent a fortune watching and supporting their club that will be picking up the pieces.


A good friend of mine has had a season ticket since he was 7. He’s 45 now. Still got the season ticket but isn’t going to games. He never missed home and most aways till this year, even when they were terrible. Just shows how bad it is for them.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: idler on February 26, 2026, 09:28:41 am
Having been so close to losing my club I wouldn’t wish it on anyone else that follows a club.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: turnbull for england on February 26, 2026, 12:02:42 pm
https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2026/february/25/update-on-sale-process/

Nearly 50 million quid! Surely obvious from day one that was an insane valuation.

Those involved in that bid have lost £4m by withdrawing!



Many have learnt the full cost of not withdrawing at the right time.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: Dutch Uncle on February 26, 2026, 12:40:15 pm
Stats

Looking to avoid the history books
With 14 games to go, Wednesday are also in danger of setting several more unwanted EFL records, including:

No team has ever ended a season on minus points. The Owls, who have won 11 points from 32 games so far, need seven from 14 matches to avoid this.

Allowing for three points a game, the fewest points a team has ever picked up in a Football League season is Loughborough with nine in 1899-1900. In more recent times, Derby County went down from the Premier League with 11 points in the 2007-08 season. The all-time low for a 46-game season is Doncaster Rovers' 20 points in 1997-98.

The record for the most defeats in a 46-game league season also belongs to Doncaster with 34 in the 1997-98 campaign. Wednesday have lost 23 of their first 32 games, meaning 12 defeats in their remaining 14 matches would see them break that record.

The most consecutive defeats suffered by a team in one season was by Darwen way back in the 1898-99 season with 18. Since the second tier was rebranded as the Championship, the record for the most successive defeats is Rotherham's 10 in the 2016-17 season. Pedersen's side have lost their past nine games.

In a 46-game season, the fewest wins a team has ever managed is Rochdale's two as they were relegated from the third tier in 1973-74.

Wednesday's only win this season came away from home, meaning the Owls are now just six games from becoming the first Football League team to go an entire season without a home win.

The farthest adrift a team has finished is Stoke City in the 1984-85 season. They finished 33 points from safety in the top tier. At present, the Owls are 41 points behind 21st-placed West Brom.

Some good stuff there Fal. As a footnote Loughboro's 11 points came from 1 win and 6 draws for a total of 8 points at two per win. Five years later that record low of 8 points at two per win was equalled by none other than ourselves. However we had 3 wins and 2 draws for 11 points at three per win. Both of those seasons consisted of 34 league games per club.
Title: Re: Sheff Weds
Post by: les@donr on March 02, 2026, 02:28:59 am
What would a phoenix club be called? Some are saying revert to calling them The  Wednesday, but they were only had that name whilst Owlerton wasn’t part of Sheffield. They could do what Halifax did and call themselves FC Sheffield Wednesday.