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Title: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: selby on March 21, 2026, 10:46:11 pm
  After responding to our plight near the bottom four of the table we have continued our upturn in form and gone four unbeaten taking 8 out of 12 points since the game at Plymouth, and at the same time have looked lot's more solid in defence  and at the same time have stepped up noticeably the ground we have covered in the games by the team.
  Our determination and in your face attitude has been a pleasure to see, and we have managed to upset the rhythm of the teams we have been playing and are consequently becoming a much harder side to play through with players backing each other up when both in and out of possession of the ball.
  Port Vale themselves have picked up of late gaining confidence from being the surprise packet and this seasons cup giant killers and being aware they can play at a high level and look now a team that can't be taken for granted despite being the bottom of the division.
  The big question is will both sides be intimidated by the prize of three points and play a cagy game? or try to be expansive and go for it ? hopefully for us the supporters the latter with the prize for both sides important.
  Both have played a lot of football in the last few weeks and injury and tiredness could be a factor in the game, and the use of substitutes could well have a big bearing on the game as  well as the choice of the starting elevens, and with an altered evening mid week game might not have the attendance the fixture deserves.
  What do you think, do we go with the same players fitness allowing? Can we take a very large stride towards points safety?  will Port Vale players think they really have a chance to stay up after disappointing results up to press this season? Are we showing signs we are going to finish the season on a high like last season? to me if we do steer clear of the bottom four, with the cup runs we will have had a very good season, What do you think?
    Two teams then that came up last season, Vale at the time probably the best side we played down at the Eco Stadium last season when they went away with the points on the day, and after a good win today against Bolton they may have given themselves a slight chance of saving themselves so  will come here with determination to keep a run going where only wins will help their cause and will  be dangerous opponents.
 Lots to discuss and a game where the points at risk could well be some of the most important of the season to both sets of fans and the clubs, with both not wanting to lose the game.
  Please have your say.
 
 
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: selby on March 22, 2026, 11:18:40 am
  Yesterdays game showed we can stop other sides controlling games in mid field with Gott's and Bailey's work rate and tackle count making us hard to dominate, and Gibson and Clifton not far behind those two in spoiling a lot of Barnsley's build up in midfield.
  Keeping Cleary quiet and spoiling Kelly's contribution to play in mid field was no mean feat and showed a side to our game we have not always shown earlier in the season but bodes well for the future, with a lot of responsibility of players getting behind our back four taken off their shoulders at the back, and having the game in front of them allowing them to defend our own area with their back to our goal. A big reason Barnsley were restricted to few clear cut chances.
  A massive step up we need to replicate in matches to the end of the season.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: GazLaz on March 22, 2026, 11:29:26 am
  Yesterdays game showed we can stop other sides controlling games in mid field with Gott's and Bailey's work rate and tackle count making us hard to dominate, and Gibson and Clifton not far behind those two in spoiling a lot of Barnsley's build up in midfield.
  Keeping Cleary quiet and spoiling Kelly's contribution to play in mid field was no mean feat and showed a side to our game we have not always shown earlier in the season but bodes well for the future, with a lot of responsibility of players getting behind our back four taken off their shoulders at the back, and having the game in front of them allowing them to defend our own area with their back to our goal. A big reason Barnsley were restricted to few clear cut chances.
  A massive step up we need to replicate in matches to the end of the season.


I think that’s pretty much our main strength. We block the centre of the pitch with three hard working central midfielders and the wide men tuck in to help as well (especially when in front).

The only times they looked like formulating a coherent attack at 1-0 down were when we tried to press full pitch as opposed to conceding possession to the half way line, that we did most of the time.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: selby on March 22, 2026, 11:34:41 am
  Bang on Gaz.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Alan Southstand on March 22, 2026, 12:24:38 pm
After reading the Yorkshire Post report and, to a lesser degree, the Free Press, I was left wondering if I’d been to the same game! Yes, it didn’t have much by way of goalmouth action, but what it did have was an away side (mostly) controlling things throughout.
Barnsley might have been disappointing (YP), but that was largely due to how we nullified them. That said, it’s becoming increasingly obvious what we’re missing and what we have to invest in for next season - a goalscorer/striker. No lack of effort from Hanlon, but finishing is not one of his better attributes.
Another tricky game on Tuesday, as PV have found a way of picking up points themselves. However, 3 points for us on Tuesday and we can start to breathe a bit easier and maybe start planning for another season in L1. Players-wise, if Mols is fit, I would think he’ll be back in, at the expense of either Gibson or Middleton, both of them having worked their socks off covering back, for a change. Mols still gives us that extra ‘something’ up the top end.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Fal on March 22, 2026, 04:56:40 pm
Worth it to note we haven't beaten Port Vale at home since 2008, and they are currently on an unbeaten streak of 5 games at the Keepmoat/Eco with 4 wins and 1 draw.

All runs come to an end and hopefully it will be this Tuesday.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Rupee92ONLY on March 22, 2026, 05:21:20 pm
Bit of a chance to correct the Stockport semi here and treat it like a one of knock-out game. Win it and we are safe with 7 games to spare.

Fans should treat it as such too and give it that sort of atmosphere.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: drfchound on March 22, 2026, 06:08:22 pm
I remember not too long ago beating Leeds at Elland  Road and thinking we were safe with seven games to go.
We ended up going down from The Championship on goal difference.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: idler on March 22, 2026, 06:28:41 pm
I remember not too long ago beating Leeds at Elland  Road and thinking we were safe with seven games to go.
We ended up going down from The Championship on goal difference.
I’ve tried to erase that from my memory. We went back to Bradford and had a couple of celebratory pints in the local. It was a car crash from then on.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Rupee92ONLY on March 22, 2026, 06:38:58 pm
We had a proper first class numpty in charge then though.Bless him he’s never managed again the prick.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: drfchound on March 22, 2026, 06:46:03 pm
We had a proper first class numpty in charge then though.Bless him he’s never managed again the prick.

Whatever you think about Dickov, he got us into a position from which we should have stayed up.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: les@donr on March 22, 2026, 08:52:41 pm
PV beat Bolton on the w/e, they still have some fight in them, mustn’t think they are easy to beat. Must show them respect as another L1 team. Play at our strengths and we should get another win. The gap will be 8 points with Blackpool, we must be close to being safe, level on points with Barnsley.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Draytonian III on March 22, 2026, 10:10:01 pm
Port Vale beat Bolton , so I missed out on £80 on my coupon
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: wing commander on March 23, 2026, 08:28:52 am
 Port vale beating Bolton is a reminder this wont be a easy game. They have no option but to go for it as they have to win every game. We have had a fantastic week and put ourselves in a great position to get this job done without have the nerve tingling stress of the last couple of fixtures of the season knowing we need to win.

 We need to be on it Tuesday, put these to bed and move 8 points clear (7 if you put our goal difference into play) and not waste the platform last week has given us.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on March 23, 2026, 09:48:47 am
Port vale beating Bolton is a reminder this wont be a easy game. They have no option but to go for it as they have to win every game. We have had a fantastic week and put ourselves in a great position to get this job done without have the nerve tingling stress of the last couple of fixtures of the season knowing we need to win.

 We need to be on it Tuesday, put these to bed and move 8 points clear (7 if you put our goal difference into play) and not waste the platform last week has given us.


It is clearly a tough one as they're playing for places in a big cup match, but also just their second win in 10 league games.  By contrast we've won 5 of the last 10.  My concern for us is scoring enough goals, we've been defensively bar the Cardiff and Wycombe games pretty good since christmas.  As Bolton have found out recently, it's very fine margins against any team in this league.  A lot of our recent wins and defeats could have gone either way.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Ian Nimmo on March 23, 2026, 09:58:08 am
  Yesterdays game showed we can stop other sides controlling games in mid field with Gott's and Bailey's work rate and tackle count making us hard to dominate, and Gibson and Clifton not far behind those two in spoiling a lot of Barnsley's build up in midfield.
  Keeping Cleary quiet and spoiling Kelly's contribution to play in mid field was no mean feat and showed a side to our game we have not always shown earlier in the season but bodes well for the future, with a lot of responsibility of players getting behind our back four taken off their shoulders at the back, and having the game in front of them allowing them to defend our own area with their back to our goal. A big reason Barnsley were restricted to few clear cut chances.
  A massive step up we need to replicate in matches to the end of the season.

Yes I agree, it’s going to be really important to press hard from the start tomorrow and restrict them from any play in our defensive third. If we start with Bails, Clifton and Gotts they should be able to provide the energy that will be required. Our current back 4 seem to have been steady over the last couple of games, so no real reason why we cannot play higher up the field, and stop the nonsense of sitting back and giving the opposition so much time and space to knock the ball around which we have seen in a number of games.
Hopefully if all goes well and we get into a commanding position, we will be able to give gotts and bails some respite later in the game.


I think that’s pretty much our main strength. We block the centre of the pitch with three hard working central midfielders and the wide men tuck in to help as well (especially when in front).

The only times they looked like formulating a coherent attack at 1-0 down were when we tried to press full pitch as opposed to conceding possession to the half way line, that we did most of the time.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Barmby Rover on March 23, 2026, 12:02:47 pm
Rovers will put a massive effort in to win this one. The players have a rest for a week and a half. Middleton will do the business on the wing, and I can see Adelakun playing the striker role again, it should be enough to beat PV. I reckon a 3-1 victory here.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Alan Southstand on March 23, 2026, 05:16:40 pm
Good preview with Grant. Mols to be assessed in the morning, but he’s improving. Everyone seems to have come through the Barnsley game. Hanlan missing his shirt of course - it’s still in one of the Barnsley defender’s locker!

Grehan back training again and Robinson and BM will be packing their kitbags for a trip into Europe.

GM stressing that it’s not going to be an easy game, as none are at this level. There is an awareness of what we’re up against but there is a determination to finish this sequence of games positively.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Ldr on March 23, 2026, 06:11:20 pm
Rovers will put a massive effort in to win this one. The players have a rest for a week and a half. Middleton will do the business on the wing, and I can see Adelakun playing the striker role again, it should be enough to beat PV. I reckon a 3-1 victory here.

This has to be one of the most bizarre opinions I’ve read in a long time, Adelakun looked so out of place up top v Bolton and Hanlan was immense v Barnsley, hats off to you though if you’ve called it
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: i_ateallthepies on March 23, 2026, 06:30:34 pm
Rovers will put a massive effort in to win this one. The players have a rest for a week and a half. Middleton will do the business on the wing, and I can see Adelakun playing the striker role again, it should be enough to beat PV. I reckon a 3-1 victory here.

This has to be one of the most bizarre opinions I’ve read in a long time, Adelakun looked so out of place up top v Bolton and Hanlan was immense v Barnsley, hats off to you though if you’ve called it

Agreed, Ldr.  Think Barmy has been on the jungle juice again.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: les@donr on March 23, 2026, 08:18:07 pm
or too much Grappa
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: tommy toes on March 23, 2026, 11:16:25 pm
It’s going to be wet and very windy tomorrow night so could be a difficult night for us and the teams.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: monkeytennis on March 24, 2026, 05:10:11 pm
Yep there’s a right blow on already. Layers called for I think!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: jmt23 on March 24, 2026, 09:48:04 pm
Not one for the purists!but another win and we climb up again. They were seriously average to poor, and I can imagine Grant being really frustrated we didn’t score 3 or more in the first half.
 I don’t know what to make of the second half at all, it wasn’t a great watch though. I will put it down to tired legs after a tough section of the season.
With 21 points to play for, are we safe yet?


Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on March 24, 2026, 09:55:45 pm
Not one for the purists!but another win and we climb up again. They were seriously average to poor, and I can imagine Grant being really frustrated we didn’t score 3 or more in the first half.
 I don’t know what to make of the second half at all, it wasn’t a great watch though. I will put it down to tired legs after a tough section of the season.
With 21 points to play for, are we safe yet?




I reckon we are safe by a couple of points.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: graingrover on March 24, 2026, 09:57:29 pm
Outstanding performances from Sterry and Senior again .However the most important feature tonight was the teamwork ; every man put in a shift .
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Filo on March 24, 2026, 10:07:03 pm
Job done, second half was disappointing like
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: richtherover on March 24, 2026, 10:08:12 pm
Very scrappy game but 3 points and I'll take that. Not convinced we're 100% safe yet but we can breathe a bit easier now. Great battling spirit. Well done lads.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: karldew on March 24, 2026, 10:29:18 pm
Not sure what formation we ended up playing. No one in front of Sterry and Haks and Hanlan up top together.

Shit weather, poor game to watch, 3 points! (again!).

Time to count down the days to the league 1 26/27 fixtures me thinks!…
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: GazLaz on March 25, 2026, 07:39:01 am
Great three points. They should just about jr enough points to stay up. May need one more.

Up to now we can mitigate the recent terrible performances with the ball by saying we are “grinding out results”. I’d like to see a bit of freedom now and a sign of the style of play for next season. We have been worse in possession of late than we were during the bad run. 
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: selby on March 25, 2026, 09:01:16 am
  I thought the first twenty minutes we played as well as we have played all season attacking wise.
  That got lost with what followed which was a war of attrition as they got to grips with the game, the result of the game more important than the performance for both sides.
  In the end a game to tough it out in bad conditions and we did just that. It's a big well done from me.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Pancho Regan on March 25, 2026, 09:19:21 am
A very scrappy game, not helped by the conditions and an over-fussy ref.
But another important win and a 3rd clean sheet in a row, albeit against poor opposition.

Some positives from last night included another excellent performance by Jack Senior. He was brilliant, both defending and going forward. Some of his interplay with Haks, particularly in the first half, was real quality - despite the conditions.
He must have been instrumental in building 3 or 4 good attacks in that first half.

A good shift by Brandon again; held the ball up and laid it off well on several occasions.

Good performances by Jamie Sterry, Robbie Gotts and Elliot Lee (although I still don’t feel we’ve seen the best of him yet).

So an important win and a good run of results over the last 5 games, just when we needed it.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: i_ateallthepies on March 25, 2026, 09:30:07 am
A very scrappy game, not helped by the conditions and an over-fussy ref.
But another important win and a 3rd clean sheet in a row, albeit against poor opposition.

Some positives from last night included another excellent performance by Jack Senior. He was brilliant, both defending and going forward. Some of his interplay with Haks, particularly in the first half, was real quality - despite the conditions.
He must have been instrumental in building 3 or 4 good attacks in that first half.

A good shift by Brandon again; held the ball up and laid it off well on several occasions.


Good performances by Jamie Sterry, Robbie Gotts and Elliot Lee (although I still don’t feel we’ve seen the best of him yet).

So an important win and a good run of results over the last 5 games, just when we needed it.

Agree wholeheartedly with this.  The clean sheets are particularly satisfying given our earlier susceptibility all season and although I'm pretty comfortable with where we now are we have ridden our luck for the last two wins with the penalty decision and own goal being our only scoring success, so there is still improvement needed IMO if we are to have a sustained presence in L1.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Fal on March 25, 2026, 10:08:36 am
A very scrappy game, not helped by the conditions and an over-fussy ref.
But another important win and a 3rd clean sheet in a row, albeit against poor opposition.

Some positives from last night included another excellent performance by Jack Senior. He was brilliant, both defending and going forward. Some of his interplay with Haks, particularly in the first half, was real quality - despite the conditions.
He must have been instrumental in building 3 or 4 good attacks in that first half.

A good shift by Brandon again; held the ball up and laid it off well on several occasions.


Good performances by Jamie Sterry, Robbie Gotts and Elliot Lee (although I still don’t feel we’ve seen the best of him yet).

So an important win and a good run of results over the last 5 games, just when we needed it.

Agree wholeheartedly with this.  The clean sheets are particularly satisfying given our earlier susceptibility all season and although I'm pretty comfortable with where we now are we have ridden our luck for the last two wins with the penalty decision and own goal being our only scoring success, so there is still improvement needed IMO if we are to have a sustained presence in L1.

Ridden our luck? TLT had one save to make against Barnsley right at the end, Port Vale last night i can only recall the header early on, can think of only 1 against Bolton too from Apter. Agree always room for improvement but we were the better team in both games and deserved to win no matter how the goals went in.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: i_ateallthepies on March 25, 2026, 10:12:13 am
Ridden out luck in that the penalty decision that some thought was soft was given and ridden out luck that an own goal was scored.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: GazLaz on March 25, 2026, 10:26:09 am
Ridden out luck in that the penalty decision that some thought was soft was given and ridden out luck that an own goal was scored.

Kind of agree. We are keeping clean sheets but at what feels like the expense of any attacking fluidity. The last few games have been very low event fodder. That in itself creates higher potential for variance and huge errors like giving away penalties and OGs become huge.

Theres a huge amount of luck involved in winning football matches. Its not just a case of "play well you win"- "play badly you lose". During our bad run/ first half of the season we weren't as bad as results suggested, during this spell we are not as good as results suggest. Just relying on outcomes to judge narrative and as a predictive tool for future events, is not really the best approach to take with football. Sean O'Driscoll preached that 20 years ago and he was right.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Rupee92ONLY on March 25, 2026, 10:46:06 am
Worst team I have seen us come up against, including Orient in that home game a few weeks back.

We should’ve been putting the game to bed in that first half but even in the 2nd half when we dropped off for whatever reason, we were never in any danger of not winning.

TLT - Not a lot to do but did well when needed. Must be easy to switch off against Sunday league teams like them.

Sterry - Could’ve ended the game with a brace.

Gotts - Worst I’ve seen him play for us. Luckily it came against them.

Adelakun - Feel like he could’ve turned it on last night and scored a couple but he ambles around at times. Had Molyneux played I think the pair would’ve ran rings.

Hanlan - Great performance. You never get anything less than maximum effort from him so it’s difficult to not like him. Put himself about and ran the channels well. Won’t score you many but just like Clifton, he’s a very hard working back up player. Agreed with him getting MOTM.

Safe now. Look to next season. Clifton has an option on his contract so that’s an easy one. Get Senior tied down and that’s the back up left back sorted early.   
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: IDM on March 25, 2026, 11:14:34 am
Not safe yet, I’d like another 3-4 points before claiming that.

After our shocking run of results in autumn it’s not an issue to be grinding out results now, ahead of entertainment value.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Usher wide. on March 25, 2026, 02:04:39 pm
Worst team I have seen us come up against, including Orient in that home game a few weeks back.

We should’ve been putting the game to bed in that first half but even in the 2nd half when we dropped off for whatever reason, we were never in any danger of not winning.

TLT - Not a lot to do but did well when needed. Must be easy to switch off against Sunday league teams like them.

Sterry - Could’ve ended the game with a brace.

Gotts - Worst I’ve seen him play for us. Luckily it came against them.

Adelakun - Feel like he could’ve turned it on last night and scored a couple but he ambles around at times. Had Molyneux played I think the pair would’ve ran rings.

Hanlan - Great performance. You never get anything less than maximum effort from him so it’s difficult to not like him. Put himself about and ran the channels well. Won’t score you many but just like Clifton, he’s a very hard working back up player. Agreed with him getting MOTM.

Safe now. Look to next season. Clifton has an option on his contract so that’s an easy one. Get Senior tied down and that’s the back up left back sorted early.

Senior isn’t the ‘back up’ left back.

He’s way ahead of Maxwell now (always was anyway in my opinion).

His interplay with Haks, Gotts, Lee & Bailey going forward first half was superb.

His defensive duties have come on leaps & bounds since his run in the side.


Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: Rupee92ONLY on March 25, 2026, 02:10:41 pm
No you’re right he’s the number 1 left back as things stand. I’m talking next season… I’d bin Maxwell off and have Senior + 1 newbie who you would hope would be an improvement.

I’m a member of the Jack Senior fan club.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Port Vale game
Post by: roversdude on March 25, 2026, 02:23:53 pm
We need to get Senior signed up hopefully this is happening in the background