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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: ncRover on April 29, 2026, 10:39:25 am
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https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2026/april/29/2026-27---retain-list/
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Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF :thumbdown:
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Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF :thumbdown:
Wouldn't surprise me if this is a mutual decision with Middleton. Perhaps he wants a move back to Scotland.
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Selby is going to be happy.
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Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF :thumbdown:
Wouldn't surprise me if this is a mutual decision with Middleton. Perhaps he wants a move back to Scotland.
Pretty much my thinking too. Good player IMO but something just hasn’t worked out for him/us.
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If Adelakun went a full season with Middleton’s output people would be spitting feathers
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Big summer ahead with a fair bit of space being created now.
Suspect the plan will be a smaller squad but with (hopefully) more quality individuals who fit the system and pattern of play.
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He’s always going to score more though, even if he doesn’t need to wash his shirt between games.
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As a result we need the following:
2 senior keepers
1 or maybe 2 left backs
1 left winger
2 strikers
1 central midfielder
Potentially 1 centre back depending on whether Grehan and Faulkner are going to be in the squad
Lots more we could look at but the retained list makes the above the baseline.
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Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF :thumbdown:
Hanlan has done foar more than Middleton. Sonetimes people can get obsessed with wingers, as thwy are all exciting and shiney, where really Middletons and Gibsons outputs are pretty low.
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Think the list is fair, really liked Maxwell but he seems prone to injuries and never did enough this season to make the shirt his.
Middleton was a bit of an enigma looked good as a sub at times but looked lost when starting
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Would personally loan Nixon out and get someone to seriously compete with Sterry for the starting RB spot. Especially given JS normally picks up a few injuries.
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Everytime he was given a chance (Middleton) he's failed to impress. Right decision for me.
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Would never have guessed Senior would end up making the spot his own over Maxwell. Fitness always Maxwell's issue, but hopefully Senior signs his new deal now.
Not another total rebuild thankfully but definitely a lot of work to do.
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Assume we get a good second half of the season from Hakeeb at least.
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Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF :thumbdown:
Hanlan has done foar more than Middleton. Sonetimes people can get obsessed with wingers, as thwy are all exciting and shiney, where really Middletons and Gibsons outputs are pretty low.
Completely disagree, hanlan has only played more because we had no one else.
He is conference standard at best.
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Middleton 1 goal in 46 games this season. He's been a terrible signing. A good cameo at Rotherham and maybe 10 or so decent crosses all season is not enough. Right decision.
Hanlan 7 goals obviously not enough but he contributed much more and should be a fine back up next season.
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As a result we need the following:
2 senior keepers
1 or maybe 2 left backs
1 left winger
2 strikers
1 central midfielder
Potentially 1 centre back depending on whether Grehan and Faulkner are going to be in the squad
Lots more we could look at but the retained list makes the above the baseline.
we need to use the loan market a lot better than we have done over the past few seasons, as well as getting some permanent quality L1 standard players in.
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Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF :thumbdown:
Wouldn't surprise me if this is a mutual decision with Middleton. Perhaps he wants a move back to Scotland.
I heard in January that Middleton wasn't happy/not settled.
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If Adelakun went a full season with Middleton’s output people would be spitting feathers
I'll stand by what I said at Christmas. With the consistent quality of crosses that Middleton puts in, Kyle Wooton would have been scoring a goal a game for us.
But since we don't have Kyle Wooton, Middleton was a very strange signing.
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So we have the option on Bobby ( Maldini ) Faulkner, nothing against the lad personally but he does seem to spend a lot of time on the sidelines, either injured or not picked for “ political reasons “ whatever than means, he might be a keen follower of the Green Party.
As his mentor as mentioned in the past he’s had issues at both Harrogate and Dundalk ,once maybe but twice you have think.
Hopefully he does become good but honestly I can’t see it happening, but I’m quite willing to put my hands up and admit if I am wrong
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I agree with all decisions barring Clifton. I just don’t get the love in on here for him. Ye sure, he runs around a lot, but Christ, his ability on the ball for a league 1 player is f**king appalling. Verging on non existent. Running around a lot for a professional footballer should be a given. So we’ve set a pretty low bar with his extension. Especially if we aim to push on next season. Sincerely hope he’s just there to make up the numbers.
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I agree with all decisions barring Clifton. I just don’t get the love in on here for him. Ye sure, he runs around a lot, but Christ, his ability on the ball for a league 1 player is f**king appalling. Verging on non existent. Running around a lot for a professional footballer should be a given. So we’ve set a pretty low bar with his extension. Especially if we aim to push on next season. Sincerely hope he’s just there to make up the numbers.
its the energy he brings. Like Matty Blair. You always need midfielders like that
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If you combine the assists of Clifton and Lee this season you still have 3 less than the Lincoln goalkeeper.
Need someone with threat in that position.
I imagine Clifton will be a squad player.
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Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF :thumbdown:
Hanlan has done foar more than Middleton. Sonetimes people can get obsessed with wingers, as thwy are all exciting and shiney, where really Middletons and Gibsons outputs are pretty low.
Hanlan was instrumental to the upturn in form after new year. Ran his blood to water and had the shirt pulled off his back most weeks, was a constant nuisance for defenders. Struggling to think of anything Middleton actually contributed while here.
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I agree with all decisions barring Clifton. I just don’t get the love in on here for him. Ye sure, he runs around a lot, but Christ, his ability on the ball for a league 1 player is f**king appalling. Verging on non existent. Running around a lot for a professional footballer should be a given. So we’ve set a pretty low bar with his extension. Especially if we aim to push on next season. Sincerely hope he’s just there to make up the numbers.
I disagree, there's a difference between running around alot like a headless chicken, and working hard,winning the ball,pressuring the opposition and getting in dangerous positions, if Clifton could finish,he be a championship player.
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Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF :thumbdown:
Wouldn't surprise me if this is a mutual decision with Middleton. Perhaps he wants a move back to Scotland.
Maybe he is wanting more first team action
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It’s a bit strange releasing the list before the season is over
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Yeah,a bit early,but players usually already know themselves and with safety guaranteed,nothing to risk,youngsters and fringe players probably get more time again Saturday,looks like we looking to sign 5 or 6 new players and a couple of loanees with 3 or 4 more loanees later in season for positional improvements and injuries,with Grant usually eagre to get plenty of the business done early,looking forward to see who we bring in.
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I can't disagree with that list, Middleton doesn't fit our way of playing so makes sense, Gibson has sparkled very occasionally. I personally would have also put McGrath and Broadbent on the available for transfer list - Grant doesn't seem to see them as first team players and I would guess they're on middle / upper wages in the squad.
I'd keep Hanlan and Clifton, both are good cover and will always give their all - both also pretty blunt tools, so we need quality in front of them.
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No surprises for me there, and looks like Grant means business.
Maxwell has done nowhere near enough given his early promise.
Middleton I like but not enough impact.
Clifton will be a good squad player, if him, Robinson and Broadbent become our back up/cup game squad fillers (ie next years Close and Westbrook) then we will have strengthened the midfield significantly.
This leaves plenty of scope to kick on.
Still cannot believe the stick Hanlan is getting, he's been excellent at times.
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Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF :thumbdown:
Hanlan has done foar more than Middleton. Sonetimes people can get obsessed with wingers, as thwy are all exciting and shiney, where really Middletons and Gibsons outputs are pretty low.
Hanlan, how can you justify him at all, it is like we play with ten men when he is on the pitch, vaguely running towards the ball but never getting there, missing headers, badly controlling the ball, incapable of passing further than 5 yards. I just hope we get enough decent strikers in so he will be irrelevant next season
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I agree with all decisions barring Clifton. I just don’t get the love in on here for him. Ye sure, he runs around a lot, but Christ, his ability on the ball for a league 1 player is f**king appalling. Verging on non existent. Running around a lot for a professional footballer should be a given. So we’ve set a pretty low bar with his extension. Especially if we aim to push on next season. Sincerely hope he’s just there to make up the numbers.
I disagree, there's a difference between running around alot like a chicken, and working hard,winning the ball,pressuring the opposition and getting in dangerous positions, if Clifton could finish,he be a championship player.
but he can’t and he isn’t. Low end League 2 at very best for me.
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I’m sure Hanlan must have had it away with some posters wives on here, I just don’t get it…
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Both Maxwell and Middleton will go back to Scotland and next season will be playing in the Scottish Premier League !!
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Who does Jordan Gibson think he is with that Instagram story?
I think you’re meant to say thanks for my time at the club, great memories etc
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Who does Jordan Gibson think he is with that Instagram story?
I think you’re meant to say thanks for my time at the club, great memories etc
Don’t do instagram can you elaborate?
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Both Maxwell and Middleton will go back to Scotland and next season will be playing in the Scottish Premier League !!
Maybe they will but what's your point? It's the same level as League 2 isn't it?
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I can't disagree with that list, Middleton doesn't fit our way of playing so makes sense, Gibson has sparkled very occasionally. I personally would have also put McGrath and Broadbent on the available for transfer list - Grant doesn't seem to see them as first team players and I would guess they're on middle / upper wages in the squad.
I'd keep Hanlan and Clifton, both are good cover and will always give their all - both also pretty blunt tools, so we need quality in front of them.
I’ve been told McGrath has asked to leave and i’m pretty certain they’re right as I know where it’s from and who I trust.
Problem you have is once you put them on a list as available for transfer, you’re not really getting anything for them. In most cases you’re getting £0 just their wages off the books as will be the case with Middleton.
I agree with you, especially on Broadbent. Got to go.
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I can't disagree with that list, Middleton doesn't fit our way of playing so makes sense, Gibson has sparkled very occasionally. I personally would have also put McGrath and Broadbent on the available for transfer list - Grant doesn't seem to see them as first team players and I would guess they're on middle / upper wages in the squad.
I'd keep Hanlan and Clifton, both are good cover and will always give their all - both also pretty blunt tools, so we need quality in front of them.
I’ve been told McGrath has asked to leave and i’m pretty certain they’re right as I know where it’s from and who I trust.
Problem you have is once you put them on a list as available for transfer, you’re not really getting anything for them. In most cases you’re getting £0 just their wages off the books as will be the case with Middleton.
I agree with you, especially on Broadbent. Got to go.
You have to build a squad over time. If you get rid of too many, unless we land all our first choice targets we could end up with someone at Broadbent level or below.
I think he’s a fine squad player.
If we strengthen the team enough then he will be adequate back up for now and may go out in January.
It can’t all be done in one window.
I think these decisions give us a great opportunity to build something. It’s a massive step forward getting those released out the squad.
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Never known rovers put a list out this soon as well as the season still going , are we the first to announce this season ??
Also it wouldn’t surprise me if a few players come in the next month
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In a nutshell, it's evident that Grant is content with the core of the current squad. Having a solid understanding of his players gives him a clear advantage heading into next season. With the right loan signings (unlike this season), we should be in a strong position to perform well. This approach is far more beneficial than a complete overhaul and starting from scratch. Good prospects for next year.
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Never known rovers put a list out this soon as well as the season still going , are we the first to announce this season ??
Also it wouldn’t surprise me if a few players come in the next month
I thought he would have waited until next Monday, but he clearly knows what he wants and wants to get on with it early. Nothing wrong with that. It's all positive.
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I get we like to make signings early but what becomes of this new recruitment department/philosophy change we’re implementing?
Surely we will be a little later with our first signings this year to give time for the new hire(s) to take a look at things themselves?
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I get we like to make signings early but what becomes of this new recruitment department/philosophy change we’re implementing?
Surely we will be a little later with our first signings this year to give time for the new hire(s) to take a look at things themselves?
Pros and cons, we've had success and failure from some early signings.
Overall the list is about right for me, Grant has to be ruthless with those whose output has been sub optimal. Bar Molyneux, Hanlan and Adelakun not many of our attacking players can have much complaint.
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Who does Jordan Gibson think he is with that Instagram story?
I think you’re meant to say thanks for my time at the club, great memories etc
Don’t do instagram can you elaborate?
Just a clip of Akinfenwa saying “I’m technically unemployed so if any managers want to hit me up on WhatsApp”
Maybe I’m overreacting just feels disrespectful to me for him to put that and nothing else.
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The daft thing is that I can see us signing a striker that would get on the end on Middletons crosses, then let Middleton go.
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Not sure what kind of team we'll be putting out at Peterborough if they have already been released and all loan players gone back. Looks like Oram will probably be in goal.
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Who does Jordan Gibson think he is with that Instagram story?
I think you’re meant to say thanks for my time at the club, great memories etc
Don’t do instagram can you elaborate?
Just a clip of Akinfenwa saying “I’m technically unemployed so if any managers want to hit me up on WhatsApp”
Maybe I’m overreacting just feels disrespectful to me for him to put that and nothing else.
We all know his character, I thought it was funny!
Whatever happens, you can guarantee a 10/10 performance and a goal against us if he ends up in league one next year.
At least we wont give him dogs abuse like a certain west yorkshire team (I would hope)
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Think the list is spot on personally, Gibson a good league two player but isn't effective enough at this level, maxwell too injury prone. Think Grant will look to try Hanlan back in his natural position out wide next year rather than up front. Middleton is a good player but just doesn't suit our system at all.
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They won't have already been released. The club will just have put the statement out early, imagine it's actually a good thing if you're released to have your name out there early. Doubt the ones that will be on their way will feature this weekend though, other than Sharp and the loan rangers.
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They’ve updated the statement to say the loans have returned to their parent clubs.
In that case we have no senior keeper or Elliott Lee or Moly on Saturday.
Peterborough are 29/20 on bet365
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Who does Jordan Gibson think he is with that Instagram story?
I think you’re meant to say thanks for my time at the club, great memories etc
Don’t do instagram can you elaborate?
Just a clip of Akinfenwa saying “I’m technically unemployed so if any managers want to hit me up on WhatsApp”
Maybe I’m overreacting just feels disrespectful to me for him to put that and nothing else.
Can’t see a problem with that, he’s only stating facts
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They’ve updated the statement to say the loans have returned to their parent clubs.
In that case we have no senior keeper or Elliott Lee or Moly on Saturday.
Peterborough are 29/20 on bet365
Surely loans are til the end of the season
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No surprises. I’d imagine the Middleton decision is a mutual one. I think contractually clubs don’t like transfer listing players because if they move on what they owe the player is different to what they pay them if they want to leave on their own accord (may be wrong).
No surprise Clifton and Senior want to be kept on.
Bobby getting another year makes sense.
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I see they haven’t released the Cookie Monster.!!
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I see they haven’t released the Cookie Monster.!!
Shocking decision to keep CM he would be the first on my list to be released
COYR
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I see they haven’t released the Cookie Monster.!!
Shocking decision to keep CM he would be the first on my list to be released
COYR
Not a team player at all
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That is correct, players get a set percentage of any transfer fee involving them unless they submit an official, written transfer request. It’s why players publicly stink the place out and yet very rarely follow it in with any official request.
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Who does Jordan Gibson think he is with that Instagram story?
I think you’re meant to say thanks for my time at the club, great memories etc
Don’t do instagram can you elaborate?
Just a clip of Akinfenwa saying “I’m technically unemployed so if any managers want to hit me up on WhatsApp”
Maybe I’m overreacting just feels disrespectful to me for him to put that and nothing else.
We all know his character, I thought it was funny!
Whatever happens, you can guarantee a 10/10 performance and a goal against us if he ends up in league one next year.
At least we wont give him dogs abuse like a certain west yorkshire team (I would hope)
Have you not seen our fan base. Its pretty certain he will get stick.
Olowu got it this season.
Even mols got it and he still plays for us
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I can't disagree with that list, Middleton doesn't fit our way of playing so makes sense, Gibson has sparkled very occasionally. I personally would have also put McGrath and Broadbent on the available for transfer list - Grant doesn't seem to see them as first team players and I would guess they're on middle / upper wages in the squad.
I'd keep Hanlan and Clifton, both are good cover and will always give their all - both also pretty blunt tools, so we need quality in front of them.
I’ve been told McGrath has asked to leave and i’m pretty certain they’re right as I know where it’s from and who I trust.
Problem you have is once you put them on a list as available for transfer, you’re not really getting anything for them. In most cases you’re getting £0 just their wages off the books as will be the case with Middleton.
I agree with you, especially on Broadbent. Got to go.
If he doesnt play at the weekend then i will say this will probably be 100% correct.
Though i would think Jay would be the last to want to leave. He may have not been as good as we hoped this season but you can see he has the passion for this club
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He will play surely? We don’t have many options and perhaps the club would ideally like to keep him so as far as they’re concerned it’s business as usual?
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He will play surely? We don’t have many options and perhaps the club would ideally like to keep him so as far as they’re concerned it’s business as usual?
But if he has said to grant he wants to move on, then i cant see how
grant will play someone who doesnt want to be here.
Options of dropping grehan, pearsom or williams there. And bailey can also cover if needs be.
And if it came to light that he wanted to mpve on, will the fans be so kind to him next season when he is having a howler.
I like jay and hope he hasnt or wants to go but, if your heart and head isnt here then go.
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I can't disagree with that list, Middleton doesn't fit our way of playing so makes sense, Gibson has sparkled very occasionally. I personally would have also put McGrath and Broadbent on the available for transfer list - Grant doesn't seem to see them as first team players and I would guess they're on middle / upper wages in the squad.
I'd keep Hanlan and Clifton, both are good cover and will always give their all - both also pretty blunt tools, so we need quality in front of them.
I’ve been told McGrath has asked to leave and i’m pretty certain they’re right as I know where it’s from and who I trust.
Problem you have is once you put them on a list as available for transfer, you’re not really getting anything for them. In most cases you’re getting £0 just their wages off the books as will be the case with Middleton.
I agree with you, especially on Broadbent. Got to go.
You have to build a squad over time. If you get rid of too many, unless we land all our first choice targets we could end up with someone at Broadbent level or below.
I think he’s a fine squad player.
If we strengthen the team enough then he will be adequate back up for now and may go out in January.
It can’t all be done in one window.
I think these decisions give us a great opportunity to build something. It’s a massive step forward getting those released out the squad.
I’d alter the sentence “I think he’s a fine squad player” to ‘I think he’ll be fine as a squad player’.
The same goes for Clifton & Hanlan.
Those two words ‘Hanlan’ & ‘excellent’ in the same sentence are like having ‘Trump’ & ‘intelligent’ in the same. Someone said ‘he’d be better out wide in his natural position’…….really? And no, he’s not sh***ed my wife.
We need far, far better & I expect him & Clifton to be gone in 12 months from now.
I think Broadbent is a lucky boy. But he’ll be ok as a squad player & giving ‘first team’ players some respite in the dafter cup games.
Wouldn’t be surprised if TLT ended up back here as a permanent signing.
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Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF :thumbdown:
Wouldn't surprise me if this is a mutual decision with Middleton. Perhaps he wants a move back to Scotland.
as we all know our manager has the same agent as Middleton :chair:
Bobby Gilfillan was the one who never needed his shirt washing
and finally just before the first match some of you kept on about how many goals we were going to score from Middleton's quality crosses. If we are going to mention a Stockport centre forward released on a free by Notts County getting "his end away" on crosses - I might as well say how many Brendan O'Callaghan would have scored
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Who does Jordan Gibson think he is with that Instagram story?
I think you’re meant to say thanks for my time at the club, great memories etc
Don’t do instagram can you elaborate?
Just a clip of Akinfenwa saying “I’m technically unemployed so if any managers want to hit me up on WhatsApp”
Maybe I’m overreacting just feels disrespectful to me for him to put that and nothing else.
Can’t see a problem with that, he’s only stating facts
Fair enough, I’ll move on!
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I see they haven’t released the Cookie Monster.!!
Shocking decision to keep CM he would be the first on my list to be released
COYR
Not a team player at all
He's made a huge number of appearances this season, and got some big blocks in. H'es not been popular with the fans, but his stats speak for themselves.
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Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF :thumbdown:
Hanlan has done foar more than Middleton. Sonetimes people can get obsessed with wingers, as thwy are all exciting and shiney, where really Middletons and Gibsons outputs are pretty low.
Hanlan, how can you justify him at all, it is like we play with ten men when he is on the pitch, vaguely running towards the ball but never getting there, missing headers, badly controlling the ball, incapable of passing further than 5 yards. I just hope we get enough decent strikers in so he will be irrelevant next season
Hanlan 7 goals 1 assist
Middleton 1 goal 2 assists
Probably why.
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Middleton 1 goal in 46 games this season. He's been a terrible signing. A good cameo at Rotherham and maybe 10 or so decent crosses all season is not enough. Right decision.
Hanlan 7 goals obviously not enough but he contributed much more and should be a fine back up next season.
He was very good at Huddersfield!
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Who does Jordan Gibson think he is with that Instagram story?
I think you’re meant to say thanks for my time at the club, great memories etc
Do we expect every person to forget the worry of how they are putting bread on the table and instead tell the world how they have loved working for the company that's just told them they aren't worth a job?
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If we want to progress we've got to let Broadbent go he's absolutely terrible and less mobile than McCombe. I'd also be letting Nixon leave he offers no competition at right back with him:
A) never being fit
B) not good enough
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Who does Jordan Gibson think he is with that Instagram story?
I think you’re meant to say thanks for my time at the club, great memories etc
Don’t do instagram can you elaborate?
Just a clip of Akinfenwa saying “I’m technically unemployed so if any managers want to hit me up on WhatsApp”
Maybe I’m overreacting just feels disrespectful to me for him to put that and nothing else.
Can’t see a problem with that, he’s only stating facts
He's been slated on here times many , has been officially released by the club and gets stick for a message on his own page that doesn't bad mouth the club at all saying I'm available, what's he supposed to do differently
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I’ve literally said “fair enough I’ll move on”
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Always sorry to see players leave that have helped the club, but I do think it’s the right decisions. I think we could have gone further, but we obviously need some squad members, we just do not have the budget to be so ruthless.
So thanks for service in helping us retain league 1 status, and gain promotion - all the best for the future.
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The transfer leaks and gossip will die down a bit now Maxwell is leaving.
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As a result we need the following:
2 senior keepers
1 or maybe 2 left backs
1 left winger
2 strikers
1 central midfielder
Potentially 1 centre back depending on whether Grehan and Faulkner are going to be in the squad
Lots more we could look at but the retained list makes the above the baseline.
McCann has been here before Very much the same as last season , rebuilding from a standing start and it’s why we only just got over line this time around . Is our budget so tight that we are going to be dependent on loans ?
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I agree with all decisions barring Clifton. I just don’t get the love in on here for him. Ye sure, he runs around a lot, but Christ, his ability on the ball for a league 1 player is f**king appalling. Verging on non existent. Running around a lot for a professional footballer should be a given. So we’ve set a pretty low bar with his extension. Especially if we aim to push on next season. Sincerely hope he’s just there to make up the numbers.
I disagree, there's a difference between running around alot like a chicken, and working hard,winning the ball,pressuring the opposition and getting in dangerous positions, if Clifton could finish,he be a championship player.
That is exactly how I see Clifton too.
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Who’s mentioned budget you’re obsessed with
Unless McGrath has been tapped up can’t see him leaving he’s a bit of a home bird
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Its exciting though
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I agree with all decisions barring Clifton. I just don’t get the love in on here for him. Ye sure, he runs around a lot, but Christ, his ability on the ball for a league 1 player is f**king appalling. Verging on non existent. Running around a lot for a professional footballer should be a given. So we’ve set a pretty low bar with his extension. Especially if we aim to push on next season. Sincerely hope he’s just there to make up the numbers.
I disagree, there's a difference between running around alot like a chicken, and working hard,winning the ball,pressuring the opposition and getting in dangerous positions, if Clifton could finish,he be a championship player.
That is exactly how I see Clifton too.
Thirded, I believe he’s a very clever player, the positions he finds himself in are often brilliant. It’s just that last ‘bit’ which leaves you with your head in your hands.
Glad he’s staying, if he can find that end ‘bit’ we’ve got a player on our hands. Gets stuck in as well!
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Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF :thumbdown:
Hanlan has done foar more than Middleton. Sonetimes people can get obsessed with wingers, as thwy are all exciting and shiney, where really Middletons and Gibsons outputs are pretty low.
Completely disagree, hanlan has only played more because we had no one else.
He is conference standard at best.
He has played nearly 300 league games yet Mr Soprano knows best!
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James Maxwell on X
Amazing 4 years! The right time for a change, wish nothing but the best for everyone involved at the football club! ❤️
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James Maxwell on X
Amazing 4 years! The right time for a change, wish nothing but the best for everyone involved at the football club! ❤️
Gone from hero to zero .
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Let’s face it the squad was never L1 prepared . If McCann isn’t to repeat the same , will he have the full backing to bring in the type of players that can compete at hire level as other teams are investing and we have little over all squad quality left if Bailey and Mols move on . Other confusing thing is why announce before the last game who’s leaving etc .
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James Maxwell on X
Amazing 4 years! The right time for a change, wish nothing but the best for everyone involved at the football club! ❤️
Sad to see james go.
Thought he would go on to better things but injuries havnt helped.
Wouldnt of minded seeing him get another contract. Could of loaned him out till Jan to try and find some form.
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Faulkner and Flint are a big improvement in quality with Pearson to our central defence, and are more adaptable covering other positions along the back four. a big improvement in pace and when not in possession defending space in the area.
Two good players who effect games positively and encourage players around them.
It's been a long time coming players in central defence coming through our youth system probably since the youth cup final side when one went to West Brom.
If they start the season like both of them are finishing this season they will do very well.
And if McGrath does move and is not up for a fight here, a player like Byrne would suit me and we would have a good group.
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Let’s face it the squad was never L1 prepared . If McCann isn’t to repeat the same , will he have the full backing to bring in the type of players that can compete at hire level as other teams are investing and we have little over all squad quality left if Bailey and Mols move on . Other confusing thing is why announce before the last game who’s leaving etc .
I think GM's interview give us a clue why, he is wanting to have a break with his family, something he didn't get last season, so things have to be organised before he goes straight after the last game, and before he brings in the targets and has the pre season training camp.
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We may have already identified our targets, to be fair its been a long time we have realised there has got to be changes if we are to be competitive at the top end of the division and our group despite being large didn't have the quality.
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If we have already identified players is the data to have the final say, it seems strange heralding the new system and then proceeding with old ways. Sure the data is already out there just needs someone to make sense of it
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Of the (permanent) players released, how many are likely to remain in L1 next season?
Zain Westbrooke - highly unlikely
Ben Close - probably not
Joseph Sbarra - no chance
Jordan Gibson - doubtful
Kyle Hurst - highly unlikely
Billy Sharp - doubtful
James Maxwell - unsure
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I wonder if Gibbo was confident he would be staying,despite falling short too many times for most of our fans,he surprisingly made 51 appearnces this season,he was watching kids football Wednesday evening at Harworth colliery,apparently he moved into a house in the village recently too.
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Let’s face it the squad was never L1 prepared . If McCann isn’t to repeat the same , will he have the full backing to bring in the type of players that can compete at hire level as other teams are investing and we have little over all squad quality left if Bailey and Mols move on . Other confusing thing is why announce before the last game who’s leaving etc .
I think GM's interview give us a clue why, he is wanting to have a break with his family, something he didn't get last season, so things have to be organised before he goes straight after the last game, and before he brings in the targets and has the pre season training camp.
Not having a break last year was bonkers, anyway hopefully he won't be rushing to sign 18 year olds this summer.
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I wonder if Gibbo was confident he would be staying,despite falling short too many times for most of our fans,he surprisingly made 51 appearnces this season,he was watching kids football Wednesday evening at Harworth colliery,apparently he moved into a house in the village recently too.
On his day he IS a league 1 player, but his day isn’t regular enough. I may have kept him though.
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Of the (permanent) players released, how many are likely to remain in L1 next season?
Zain Westbrooke - highly unlikely
Ben Close - probably not
Joseph Sbarra - no chance
Jordan Gibson - doubtful
Kyle Hurst - highly unlikely
Billy Sharp - doubtful
James Maxwell - unsure
Ben Close - could still do a job in L1, however guessing his plans for the future will be prioritised when considering any offers which are made to him.
Billy Sharp - would still be a useful asset for a L1 team who tend to play with two central forwards as opposed to Grants system of one central and two wide forwards. Whilst Bill will always want to play as much as possible just having him within a squad will be a tremendous asset, particularly any which lacks experience.
James Maxwell - good enough to remain in L1.
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The amount of comments I've read, some on here but mainly on social media about "Gibbo can still do a job", "I would'nt have got rid of Close", "Can't believe Maxwell is going" etc....
These players are not good or strong enough for League 1, it's been proved this season. The right decisions have been made thankfully.
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I agree Close and Maxwell might find themselves at a league one club but none of the others.
Sharp no doubt still has the ability to finish at this level but it would be a weird signing for a league one club to make given you know he won’t be able to play 90 minutes every week and he needs to play in a specific system to suit him.
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I'd be surprised if Close stays in L1. Screams something like Crawley, Shrewsbury or Cheltenham to me.
Westbrooke is a funny one. Always thought he looked pretty good for us when he played, and early last season he looked like the clever midfield passer that we needed. Something must have gone on to see him basically frozen out. I'll be interested to see where he ends up - surely ability wise he's above National League level.
I think Maxwell is a really good player ability wise, but just been looking at his stats, in his 4 seasons here he's never made it to 30 league appearances in a season, and I'd say for most of that time (until the second half of this season) he's been first choice when fit...
2022/23 - 29 league appearances
2023/24 - 24 league appearances (including play-offs)
2024/25 - 24 league appearances
2025/26 - 19 league appearances
Maybe that's in McCann's thinking with Maxwell. There's no doubting his ability I don't think, and I'm sure bad luck is a factor in the injuries he has picked up, but you really want your first choice players to be available 35+ times per season.
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It’s amusing to read some of the comments on here. Talk about diverse opinions! You would think we’d all been watching a different team!
For what it’s worth, I wasn’t surprised by any of Grant’s decisions.
I always lean towards the positive and probably judge some of our players with red and white tinted specs, so I’m disappointed particularly to see Maxwell go, but I can’t really argue too strongly.
Similarly with Middleton, but I guess he just hasn’t produced the output required of an attacking player. I do believe, however, that in a different set-up with a ‘traditional’ centre forward in the team who could get on the end of Middleton’s crosses, he would look a much better player.
Gibson is a bit of an enigma. He’s provided some memorable moments (particularly against Bradford!) but he has been much too inconsistent to warrant another contract. It’s a shame, because he does have talent. But if I had to choose between Jordan and Haks, it would be Haks for me.
I’m also sorry to see Close go, because on his day he is a fine footballer. He can do a good job for somebody.
Not really any debate about the other decisions for me. Hanlan gets too much stick in my opinion, but we do need better if we are to challenge at the top end of the League next season. He can contribute, but not as Number 1 choice.
So I think Grant has made the right decisions, although I feel he is simply putting right some questionable previous decisions regarding players like Sbarra, Westbrooke and Hurst.
I do think Grant has given himself enough space and scope to really improve the quality of the squad and give us a real chance of competing next season, assuming Terry is able to give him what he needs.
So that’s Part One done. Now the next decisions are the crucial ones.
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The overwhelming thing we should remember is largely that doing a job does not get you promoted and that is the aim of the manager. He has to be ruthless to kick on, especially with those who are at the stage they need to kick on themselves and have not. That is not a reflection on them as people or their efforts in some ways (although some may be) but the manager has to improve the squad to get where he wants to be. I like that he won't just make do.
Those released largely on the face of it have worked hard and done well, good luck to them all.
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Don't think any of them leaving can have too many complaints personally.
Been through all the players listed 'under contract, 'contract activated' and 'offered' and I only count 8 that if I saw them on the starting 11 first game of next season I'd have no real issues with: Sterry, Bailey, Pearson, Molyneux, Gotts, Adelakun, Clifton & Senior.
The rest for me all fall into the not convinced/back up at best/not seen enough category: McGrath, Broadbent, Hanlan, Nixon, Robinson, McCann, Grehan, Straughan-Brown, Williams, Pawlak, Bryant, Flint, Faulkner, Oram, Pavan.
Hopefully any that come in aren't for potential and can go straight in the starting 11 and are improvements on the 7 released.
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The daft thing is that I can see us signing a striker that would get on the end on Middletons crosses, then let Middleton go.
Ironside was that man
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I can’t believe there’s people rating Pearson for us. Apart from 3 or 4 solid games he’s been utterly atrocious and he’s absolutely shit scared when it looks like he might have to make a pass under even the slightest of pressure.
Centre back looks just as big an issue as any in our squad.
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Me and @adam3oxley have been told that the retained list won't be discussed at today's press conference. #DRFC
Unclear if the four loanees are still at Rovers. Grant McCann refused to clarify when asked about that. #drfc
From Ricky C on X
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Hopefully we will soon stop slagging off the retained players and start supporting them- with a bit of confidence that might even change a few opinions.
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Joe Sbarra on X
Massive thank you to everyone associated with the club! Moments I’ll never forget on and off the pitch, getting a few nibbles on the way! Wish everyone involved with @drfc_official all the best for the future ❤️
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I can’t believe there’s people rating Pearson for us. Apart from 3 or 4 solid games he’s been utterly atrocious and he’s absolutely shit scared when it looks like he might have to make a pass under even the slightest of pressure.
Centre back looks just as big an issue as any in our squad.
Pearson is the best centre back we have, a bit unfair to say he’s been atrocious except for 3 or 4 games.
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It’s amusing to read some of the comments on here. Talk about diverse opinions! You would think we’d all been watching a different team!
For what it’s worth, I wasn’t surprised by any of Grant’s decisions.
I always lean towards the positive and probably judge some of our players with red and white tinted specs, so I’m disappointed particularly to see Maxwell go, but I can’t really argue too strongly.
Similarly with Middleton, but I guess he just hasn’t produced the output required of an attacking player. I do believe, however, that in a different set-up with a ‘traditional’ centre forward in the team who could get on the end of Middleton’s crosses, he would look a much better player.
Gibson is a bit of an enigma. He’s provided some memorable moments (particularly against Bradford!) but he has been much too inconsistent to warrant another contract. It’s a shame, because he does have talent. But if I had to choose between Jordan and Haks, it would be Haks for me.
I’m also sorry to see Close go, because on his day he is a fine footballer. He can do a good job for somebody.
Not really any debate about the other decisions for me. Hanlan gets too much stick in my opinion, but we do need better if we are to challenge at the top end of the League next season. He can contribute, but not as Number 1 choice.
So I think Grant has made the right decisions, although I feel he is simply putting right some questionable previous decisions regarding players like Sbarra, Westbrooke and Hurst.
I do think Grant has given himself enough space and scope to really improve the quality of the squad and give us a real chance of competing next season, assuming Terry is able to give him what he needs.
So that’s Part One done. Now the next decisions are the crucial ones.
So Hanlan isn't good enough and we need somebody else, so we carry him as a passenger for another season? Yet Maxwell, Middleton Close etc go because of the same reason. Not logical to me.
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That will be because the people who matter do think Hanlan is good enough.
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It’s not that difficult to figure out. Hanlan is still contracted, the others (excluding Middleton who desperately wants out) aren’t.
Hanlan is a fine 3rd choice striker who will occasionally come on out wide too and act as a bit of a nuisance/spoiler towards the end of some games.
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It’s about time the physical stature ie hight / weight as well being good on the ball forms part of the calibre when signing players . We have in the past too many average slightly build midfielder types . No physical presence in the challenge where it should count ie in the box . Tall defenders are one thing at corner , but when your players are only 8st wet threw and under 6’ and gets out muscled or out jumped every game it starts to be an up hill battle every game ..
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It’s about time the physical stature ie hight / weight as well being good on the ball forms part of the calibre when signing players . We have in the past too many average slightly build midfielder types . No physical presence in the challenge where it should count ie in the box . Tall defenders are one thing at corner , but when your players are only 8st wet threw and under 6’ and gets out muscled or out jumped every game it starts to be an up hill battle every game ..
Our smallest player has been the best player since January.
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It’s about time the physical stature ie hight / weight as well being good on the ball forms part of the calibre when signing players . We have in the past too many average slightly build midfielder types . No physical presence in the challenge where it should count ie in the box . Tall defenders are one thing at corner , but when your players are only 8st wet threw and under 6’ and gets out muscled or out jumped every game it starts to be an up hill battle every game ..
Our smallest player has been the best player since January.
Correct & I reckon Man City's smallest player (Silva) has been their best player all season
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Size means nothing, ask Messi, Puyol, Iniesta etc. Copps was great in the air too and he was hardly a giant. I'm.not sure why there's a clamber to be so physical all of a sudden. I'd rather we were quick and exciting to watch than a big physical side.
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I think Hanlon will start on the right wing next season with 3 new strikers being signed for next season ,the last 2 home games when he played on the right he has been outstanding and I said all season he is not a number 9 but a winger and a good one when played in his true position
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Think the absence of pace is a bigger issue than physicality.
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You have to be able to cover ground and have a good level of pace.
Height is something you pay a real premium for in football. If you are looking for undervalued players they are generally not tall.
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McCann will be looking for pace AND physicality.
He said in his Posh pre-match we have been overpowered in games we have struggled in.
We need more direct options, it suits his teams.
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McCann will be looking for pace AND physicality.
He said in his Posh pre-match we have been overpowered in games we have struggled in.
We need more direct options, it suits his teams.
We need more athleticism undoubtedly. Everyone doesn’t have to be 6’3 though. Why didn’t we need more pace and physicality when we were signing players 12 months ago? Is it a new thing?
It’s easy to pivot towards a new set of requirements and actually start overlooking other stuff that’s important.
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McCann will be looking for pace AND physicality.
He said in his Posh pre-match we have been overpowered in games we have struggled in.
We need more direct options, it suits his teams.
We need more athleticism undoubtedly. Everyone doesn’t have to be 6’3 though. Why didn’t we need more pace and physicality when we were signing players 12 months ago? Is it a new thing?
It’s easy to pivot towards a new set of requirements and actually start overlooking other stuff that’s important.
I think he expected L1 to be more total football than it actually is (see his previous Ben Close better suited to L1 than L2 comments).
Lincoln 100 pts says it all. Yes, Cardiff a possession team but can do it because they have a high baseline of athleticism in their squad from them being Championship players.
You have a point about height. Bailey is below 6 foot and is one of the best players in the air in the entire league. Just think we need someone with that ability at centre forward too. Other positions height matters less, we have it at centre half.
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TBH, I would like us to bring in a 1 or 2 Ben Whiteman types (physically) - I do think we have been out-muscled a bit by teams this year. It might also help if we are to persist with the long throw options.
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TBH, I would like us to bring in a 1 or 2 Ben Whiteman types (physically) - I do think we have been out-muscled a bit by teams this year. It might also help if we are to persist with the long throw options.
I fully agree Micky. Size isn't everything as other have said - I'd much rather head in to a scrap next to Gotts rather than Broadbent, but generally speaking strength and size are a more direct way to be effective, Lincoln as case in point as others have said - they weren't prime Barca knocking the ball around, but they were an average of 6ft and all strong and physical. We need a bit more of that!
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It’s no good starting with attributes blindly. You start surely primarily from what is the set up you want to play. Then select players who can both work and prosper in that set up. Only after that do you then look at attributes. No good for instance signing a load of giants if your game is possession football.
This is why the absence of pace in our side is mystifying. Whole McCann game is low possession, getting ball up field quickly and out wide. That’s the attribute of a player for his system.
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I think McCann has probably realised having one of every type of player is counter productive to playing one particular style of football. Frankie, Sharp and Hanlan all different. Gibson, Middleton, Haks all different yet expected to play the same role. Hopefully he is looking st recruiting specific players with attributes specific to their role in our team. Also hope he stops with this "Can play anywhere across the top three" nonsense. Don't think one signing he's said that about actually can.
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McCann will be looking for pace AND physicality.
He said in his Posh pre-match we have been overpowered in games we have struggled in.
We need more direct options, it suits his teams.
We need more athleticism undoubtedly. Everyone doesn’t have to be 6’3 though. Why didn’t we need more pace and physicality when we were signing players 12 months ago? Is it a new thing?
It’s easy to pivot towards a new set of requirements and actually start overlooking other stuff that’s important.
No gaz not a new thing.
However it’s been clear to most people that we have not been strong enough against a number of teams this season.
So this needs to be serious consideration when recruiting this summer.
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It’s not that difficult to figure out. Hanlan is still contracted, the others (excluding Middleton who desperately wants out) aren’t.
Hanlan is a fine 3rd choice striker who will occasionally come on out wide too and act as a bit of a nuisance/spoiler towards the end of some games.
This says it all about Hanlan. Signed has lead striker but not considered good enough by many, or fine for 3rd choice.
I have said before, expensive on budget to have someone on wages when expected to be no1, but now only low squad player.
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I’ve no doubt Hanlan would be allowed to leave if an offer came in, but it seems highly unlikely that will happen. He’s not going to drop down to a level his ability matches while he’s still under contract with us. I’d be surprised if GM has him in his plans for next season. I appreciate that he puts the effort in, but I find it baffling when people suggest he’s actually been any good. Shown spells but that’s about it.
It’s a shame things haven’t worked out with Middleton, for both sides. There’s clearly a player in there, but it feels as though GM may have been persuaded into signing him, as he doesn’t really fit the McCann style. That said, he could be a real asset to a team that plays alongside a striker who dominates aerially.
As for the rest, I think the decisions are spot on. It was the right time for Maxwell and Close to move on, and Gibbo perhaps shows why some players never quite reach the level they’re capable of mainly due to inconsistency. Best of luck to all of them, and thanks for their efforts and the memories from last season.
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The daft thing is that I can see us signing a striker that would get on the end on Middletons crosses, then let Middleton go.
Ironside was that man
You mean that player who has struggled to score and keep his place in a team 20th in League 2 and does more bench warming than playing? When we shipped him out he was irrelevant, as Hanlan is.
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I think Hanlon will start on the right wing next season with 3 new strikers being signed for next season ,the last 2 home games when he played on the right he has been outstanding and I said all season he is not a number 9 but a winger and a good one when played in his true position
I think outstanding is a bit overboard, he has been decent, He gave Stevenage's LB some issues, quick yellow helped as the lad couldn't jump in etc, but then when they took him off and sub came on, it levelled out.
My issue is that Hanlan playing on the right, he can't cross etc, he knows this because when he got the ball, he knocked it back to Sterry to whip it in.
Still have worries about his touch etc, again can play a depth position and come on last 20 minutes but if he is Starting right of a front 3 we haven't learnt from this season.
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I think Hanlon will start on the right wing next season with 3 new strikers being signed for next season ,the last 2 home games when he played on the right he has been outstanding and I said all season he is not a number 9 but a winger and a good one when played in his true position
I think outstanding is a bit overboard, he has been decent, He gave Stevenage's LB some issues, quick yellow helped as the lad couldn't jump in etc, but then when they took him off and sub came on, it levelled out.
My issue is that Hanlan playing on the right, he can't cross etc, he knows this because when he got the ball, he knocked it back to Sterry to whip it in.
Still have worries about his touch etc, again can play a depth position and come on last 20 minutes but if he is Starting right of a front 3 we haven't learnt vfrom this season.
You state he can’t cross and still have worries about his touch etc.
Add this that he very rarely takes on a player and get past him. He wins a small percentage of headers. He has a very low score ratio.
Thus the question is what his he good at?
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Getting paid to play football.
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Sometimes its not about the person being the finished article, but someone as a coach and a style of play you could possibly mould, how quick that happens, if it happens, who knows, along with fitting the budget.
So with Hanlan, I think that is the case. At some point we had no choice to have him as first choice upfront because of injuries.
So next year with a full season just played and learnt by do the coaches and the player understand more.
Can they all use a full pre season now to get where they need to be,that could be lone upfront or out wide or back up.
With where we are club size, fan base, budget. This has to be sometimes our process as to get a player upfront with instant success is going to cost a hell of a lot of money upfront and wages, the rest of the team / squad will have to deteriate in some way to allow it.
Lets see where they get with him and others, I personally think there is something there, if we play to those attributes and if we can get him where we need to play him and succeed, we will soon find out.
Today what it doesn't make him is a bad player.
Looking forward to seeing next season and if the potential players can make it or the new ones that come in, will they take time, or take the league by storm from day one.
Most of the fans favourites today have taken time or been through stages of hero to zero at some point.
I think it just needs a realism perspective of which is for league one you dont need a striker upfront to score loads of goals to be successful, take a look at the top goals scorers for the league thus season all if them are for teams that are lowly placed in the league.
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My predictions:
Kyle Hurst: Solihull
James Maxwell: Dundee Utd
Glenn Middleton: Falkirk
Ben Close: Crawley
Zain Westbrooke: Scunthorpe
Joe Sbarra: Shrewsbury
Billy Sharp and Jordan Gibson: York
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I think Hanlon will start on the right wing next season with 3 new strikers being signed for next season ,the last 2 home games when he played on the right he has been outstanding and I said all season he is not a number 9 but a winger and a good one when played in his true position
I think outstanding is a bit overboard, he has been decent, He gave Stevenage's LB some issues, quick yellow helped as the lad couldn't jump in etc, but then when they took him off and sub came on, it levelled out.
My issue is that Hanlan playing on the right, he can't cross etc, he knows this because when he got the ball, he knocked it back to Sterry to whip it in.
Still have worries about his touch etc, again can play a depth position and come on last 20 minutes but if he is Starting right of a front 3 we haven't learnt vfrom this season.
You state he can’t cross and still have worries about his touch etc.
Add this that he very rarely takes on a player and get past him. He wins a small percentage of headers. He has a very low score ratio.
Thus the question is what his he good at?
A couple of those points could equally apply to everyones favourite player :chair: :chair:
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As a result we need the following:
2 senior keepers
1 or maybe 2 left backs
1 left winger
2 strikers
1 central midfielder
Potentially 1 centre back depending on whether Grehan and Faulkner are going to be in the squad
Lots more we could look at but the retained list makes the above the baseline.
Turns out this was pretty much entirely on the money. McCann confirmed today he is looking to sign:
2 keepers to fight for the spot
Left back
Centre back
Central midfielder
Wide right player
Wide left player
2 strikers
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McCann saying Middleton asked to leave in January and nearly did, but we blocked the move late on.
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As a result we need the following:
2 senior keepers
1 or maybe 2 left backs
1 left winger
2 strikers
1 central midfielder
Potentially 1 centre back depending on whether Grehan and Faulkner are going to be in the squad
Lots more we could look at but the retained list makes the above the baseline.
Turns out this was pretty much entirely on the money. McCann confirmed today he is looking to sign:
2 keepers to fight for the spot
Left back
Centre back
Central midfielder
Wide right player
Wide left player
2 strikers
Where did you see this CB?
It’s exactly the positions & numbers we need.
We just need to ensure they’re better quality than we started last season with of course.
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Just seen the link on ‘New Striker’ topic.
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Challenge laid for Bobby Faulkner...
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/grant-mccann-lays-down-challenge-to-player-who-doncaster-rovers-fans-havent-seen-for-31-months-8550916
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Doesn’t sound too great for him. I read that as an admittance he’s been kept on so we don’t lose him for no fee. McCann isn’t having him I don’t think.
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Doesn’t sound too great for him. I read that as an admittance he’s been kept on so we don’t lose him for no fee. McCann isn’t having him I don’t think.
McCann is just not having him is he.
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Best thing McCann could do is play him… even if it’s just in the cups initially.
There’s no point in saying he needs to prove himself and then giving him zero opportunities.
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Doesn’t sound too great for him. I read that as an admittance he’s been kept on so we don’t lose him for no fee. McCann isn’t having him I don’t think.
McCann is just not having him is he.
Could barely be less enthusiastic short of not giving him the contract extension.
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Best thing McCann could do is play him… even if it’s just in the cups initially.
There’s no point in saying he needs to prove himself and then giving him zero opportunities.
He was ok when he played 3 years ago by the way. Politics are involved in these decisions and Grant may not like the character of the lad, who knows.
We are talking about club assets, not Grant McCann assets here as well. Grant was adamant that Jay was a million pound plus player last summer. We rejected a strong bid which is ultimately looking like the wrong decision (this may change again btw, players do develop). I'd like to see a quantifiable case for the perceived gap in value between the two players.
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Best thing McCann could do is play him… even if it’s just in the cups initially.
There’s no point in saying he needs to prove himself and then giving him zero opportunities.
Its difficult to carry 5 centre halves in a squad though. With Grehan, Jay and Pearson we have an unbalanced group that contains two unproven or with question marks and one past his best. That's forcing us to recruit another. Giving Pearson two years was another horror decision. Its another example of them not having a clue what they were signing. I honestly don't see how the % of budget wasted due to poor signings decreases significantly next season. Another thing to add into the mix is that we are odds on to have a worse player availability % than this season, that will be through no fault of anyone just natural variance.
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Doesn’t sound too great for him. I read that as an admittance he’s been kept on so we don’t lose him for no fee. McCann isn’t having him I don’t think.
I don’t read it like that at all, it’s McCann saying go out there and prove me wrong. Personally I hope young Mr Faulkner does just that, we need to be unearthing gems from either the academy or non league as we certainly can’t compete financially with some of the teams in this division
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The quote bit in the conversation is about the only real part of the conversation Grant has had with Bobby.
He knows what he has to do here and happy to face up to the challenge, and is well thought of elsewhere in the game, his best option is to be here for the next season.
Gaz has the info on record and knows more than he is letting on I think.
If he starts the season like he ended last season in the first team he will be hard to hold onto, and will be good value to other clubs with his contract running out if the club just sit back like Olowu, and can use the fact he has been ignored for the period by the club to any tribunal. Its wake up time.
As for his character you wouldn't meet a nicer kid anywhere, completely different off the field to on it, very humble and respectful, just wants to play football and has just been away for a paddle holiday with past and present team mates at the Rovers to Portugal.
But he isn't daft, and playing on loan has given him confidence in himself and what he is capable of. Non of the managers he has played for on loan has a bad word to say about his quality or his attitude to the team he plays for always giving one hundred per cent on and off the field.
He has built friendships for life at all the clubs he has played for and keeps an interest in their results and watches lads play when he is able to at a lot of clubs Scunthorpe and Buxton especially with friends playing, a good all round lad.
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He just needs a good pre season, if he can do that and not get injured he can play himself in to favour.
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I know one thing. if I was Grehan, McGrath, or Williams I wouldn't want McCann to leave.
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Doesn’t sound too great for him. I read that as an admittance he’s been kept on so we don’t lose him for no fee. McCann isn’t having him I don’t think.
I don’t read it like that at all, it’s McCann saying go out there and prove me wrong. Personally I hope young Mr Faulkner does just that, we need to be unearthing gems from either the academy or non league as we certainly can’t compete financially with some of the teams in this division
Likewise. Just a common sense approach as it is down to Bobby to show he's benefitted from the loan at Harrogate and he's ready to grab the shirt and keep hold of it.
He needed that full season loan to show he was robust enough to cope for a full season and although he suffered yet another injury, he got back in reasonable time to perform until the end of the season. Surely we can see that was better for him, than being on the periphery here where his game time was likely to be alot less.
Every reason to believe Bobby will be starting with a clean slate with an equal chance of earning a place in the starting XI.
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Herbie Kane has been released by Plymouth, maybe too old or too expensive though.
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Herbie Kane has been released by Plymouth, maybe too old or too expensive though.
Is he not under contract at Huddersfield?
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Herbie Kane has been released by Plymouth, maybe too old or too expensive though.
He's 27!
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He is contracted to Huddersfield Town until summer 2027 and was not made available for transfer in their retained list.
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Now Herbie Kane was a player for us.... not sure if he has lost his mojo, but was an accomplished footballer in his time with us.
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Why are some of us obsessed with former players or in this case never was our player!? It gets boring after a while. These players moved on and so should we.
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I know it’s certainly not the way to run recruitment but the reason fans harp back to former players is as they get older and have lives they can’t keep up with all the players especially at lower levels. So the ones we’ve seen enough of to make reasoned comments on are ones that have played for us.
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An absolutely superb player for us.
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An absolutely superb player for us.
Until he got injured. Wasn’t quite the same player after he recovered, IMHO.