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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: intake rover on March 23, 2010, 11:43:55 pm
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how come so many left the stadium at that time and after that, i agree that some were trying to beat the traffic, but that many ??
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Having parked in the official car parks tonight due to myother halfs health reasons I can safely say I will never blame anyone who parks in there leaving early. It took me 15 minutes longer to get home from Peterborough last week (that includes a 15 minute walk to the station!!) The road layout around the km is a joke.
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The access road should have been a dual carriage way. Brilliant planning.
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We didn't get home till 11pm and only had 8 miles to travel. It was worse last night than on a Saturday, when there's shopping traffic as well to contend with. I don't what the answer is to the traffic problem, but it's time the experts got down to sorting it, after all, they've known how bad it is for 3 years now. When we were at Belle Vue, we parked across the road and were well on the way home after just 5 minutes.
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Perfectly simple what happened last night. The Plod held up the traffic to get the Newcastle coaches away. In doing so, the traffic backed up onto both roundabouts on White Rose Way and gridlocked. I was stuck right outside the stadium for 50 minutes while two coppers on horses and one on a bike sat there staring catatonically into space. Would have taken 5 minutes and the tiniest bit of initiative for them to have had a quick word with the waiting motorists or to try to prevent the gridlock from worsening by stopping drivers inching into positions where they blocked up other entrances. But no. It was easier for them to sit there mentally totting up the overtime that we were all paying them.
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Luckily I got away before the supporters coaches left last night (didn't leave before final whistle though). Maybe it's due to my secret parking location that I can get onto and off the yorkshire outlet roundabout in record time, but I'm not telling y'all where I park! ;)
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I never left my seat until the final whistle, yet I was back home in Stainy at 10-15, i must have a good parking spot as well, but i`m not telling anyone either :)
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i park near the park inn hotel then go up white rose towards carr house road, home at 10 past 10
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BillyStubbsTears wrote:
Perfectly simple what happened last night. The Plod held up the traffic to get the Newcastle coaches away. In doing so, the traffic backed up onto both roundabouts on White Rose Way and gridlocked. I was stuck right outside the stadium for 50 minutes while two coppers on horses and one on a bike sat there staring catatonically into space. Would have taken 5 minutes and the tiniest bit of initiative for them to have had a quick word with the waiting motorists or to try to prevent the gridlock from worsening by stopping drivers inching into positions where they blocked up other entrances. But no. It was easier for them to sit there mentally totting up the overtime that we were all paying them.
I hope they did that just to piss you off.
It's always gridlocked outside the ground, simply because half of the f**king knuckle-draggers that drive have no idea which lane to position themselves in for the roundabout leading off down towards b&q. That's the one that caused tha problems. Coppers or not.
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Sif wrote:
I hope they did that just to piss you off.
It's always gridlocked outside the ground, simply because half of the fcuking knuckle-draggers that drive have no idea which lane to position themselves in for the roundabout leading off down towards b&q. That's the one that caused tha problems. Coppers or not.
Cheers cocker. I hope you had a good night too.
I know what you mean about the B&Q roundabout. Having said that, I never leave before the final whistle, and always park in the same place. I've never seen the traffic as badly gridlocked as last night. And the B&Q argument doesn't explain why the traffic was stationary for a hour going the other way, up towards Carr House Road. The fact that the coppers blocked off Stadium Way for 20 minutes to get the Newcastle coaches out and away does explain why the traffic backed up round past the Tesco depot and onto the roundabout at the top end of White Rose Way.
As I said, a bit of initiave from the Plod could have eased the gridlock. Unfortunately, they see their role as being purely to avert some hypothetical apocalyptic riot. Football fans, as ever, are treated as a sociopathic problem to be dealt with, rather than half-decent members of society who deserve a service and a bit of respect. Who gives a f**k if 5,000 local Council Tax payers were unnecessarily inconvenienced, as long as we got 5 Newcastle coaches away according to schedule before their fans ripped up Donny's babbies with their bare teeth, eh?
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I left bang on 85 minutes and got home to Manchester at quarter to eleven. Leaving five minutes early in a game that we never looked like getting anything from saved me nearly an hour if I'd have stayed till after the final whistle.
You can bleat all you want about people leaving early, but for exiles it's the only way to make night games even half accessible especially if you're up for work at 5.30 the next morning!
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we got home roughly the same time Rios. I live at Bentley!!
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I live across from the dome on bawtry road and it was gone 11pm wheni got home
road planning certainly is a joke
they should make it all one way on match evenings after the match and open both sides of the road to oneway traffic
making every route accessible it being a circular route :unsure: :blink:
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You could bloody walk from there!
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Some traffic control at the lights on Bawtry Road would help. Once past them its easy peasy! Up until you get there it takes forever.
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Rigoglioso wrote:
It's ironic that Barnsley is our next away game and we're all talking about parking problems at the stadium and how slow it is to get away from the Keepmoat.
If anyone on here has been to Oakwell before and parked in the official car park at Oakwell, you'll know that its a pain in the backside to get away from.
Roll on Saturday!
Indeed rigo, i'm thinking of booking Sunday lunch at Marr Lodge to call in at the way home from the match :D
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my mate was working last night in grantham he got there just after 11,me i got back to rosso on the supporters club bus at the same time, n the bloody pub was shut lol
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I left at full time and was back in Bradford for 11 o'clock. I park a 5 minute walk away and never go before the final whistle. The only time that I parked near the stadium I was 30 odd minutes getting out of the car park, I said never again.
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I noticed on Saturday that the police were holding the traffic up at Yorkshire Outlet roundabout to let the coaches out - and the chaos this caused. So I left my seat at the back of the south stand immediately the added time board went up, stood and watched the end of the game from in the gangway exit and was away the minute the ref blew, rather than clap the players off as I usually do. Back to the car in 5 minutes, away and off to the M18 and by 10.30 was probably heading south on M1 towards Nottingham. Got through roadworks on M1, M42 and M5 and was home at 1.45am.
sorry I didn't clear it with you Intake - will check next time
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Me and my Dad park on St Wilfreds road and make the 20 minute walk to the KMS, we were back at the car for 22.10 back in Tickhill at 22.30 and then I was back in Newark by 22.55. All that and we left a good 5 minutues after the final whistle.
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Much of the traffic problems, on matchdays on for those like me who work around White Rose Way, would be eased if a roundabout was put in at the Junation of Carriage Drive and White Rose Way (Porcelanosa).
This would give traffic the option of taking a right toward the town centre rather than all piling left to the link roard roundabout.
Traffic is always light on the way in to town by comparison.
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i would truely love to be able to walk from my house but with only one leg and back trouble too
it would take at least four hours includung rests
i would glady swap positions with your short commings if i could
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I leave my seat when the board goes up,wait at the exit till the final whistle goes then leggit to my car.
Usually get straight away with this tactic and was home in Wigan by 11.15pm last night without missing any action.
Waiting another 5mins in my seat will put an hour on an already long journey so I totally understand why some people leave early.
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Why not relieve the good old days and park at Old Belle Vue.
It`s a 10 minute round trip and straight onto Bawtry Road.......obviously only any good if you want to be onto Bawtry Road.
By the way, it`s nice to walk past the old girl every week and imagine what it would be like to be playing the fixture there.
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I've just got home.
The roads around Doncaster are not built for around 10,000 vehicles to be there at once. They are built for everyday purpose/use, and that does not mean 10,000 odd vehicles at every minute of the day.
If they did and to please most, they would have a 10 lane either side...Bawtry Rd, York Rd, Thorne Rd and all through/round town centre. Anybody fancy that?
I feel for the shift workers around the Keemoat, esp Tesco's warehouse. It must be a nightmare for them after a days work and then coming out to that.
Why not:
leave early.
go to one of the many convenient refreshment/eating outlets nearby until clear.
be realistic, tolerate it and except it ie it's a large public event, where there will be lot's people and vehicles. What the chuff do you expect?
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I have to drop my brother off in Balby and the druive back to Bradford and drop my grand daughter and her mate off before I get home. This takes about an hour and a quarter. I wouldn't fancy being gridlocked for an hour. On a mid-week game I've been up since 5.30 and get home for 11.15, then up 5.30 next morning. It's a bit of a ball ache for exiles even if you get away on time.
Funny the drive always seems longer when you lose. :(
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A drop off in Arksey and then up to York before heading home, managed to get there for 12.35am. Thanks S Yorks police! Why the whole of Donny has to be gridlocked to move half a dozen buses I will never know, they are in no more danger than the hundreds of cars from Newcastle/Sheffield or wherever. Morons.
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CusworthRovers wrote:
What the chuff do you expect?
It'd be nice if we could expect the Plod to do a bit of traffic management instead of just seeing their role as planning a covert operation to get the Away fans out before Worls War 3 breaks out.
A bit of sensible temporary road closure would solve the problem. Stop anyone travelling up White Rose Way from the Outlet so that traffic leavingvthe stadium to go towards Carr House Road gas priority at the roundabout. Block off the entrance onto White Rose way at Porcelanosa so that traffic going towards the M18 has to go down Stadium Way but has 100% priority at the roundabout by the Outlet.
If the Plod saw part of their role as being to provide a service to the people who pay for them instead of being obsessed with none existent public order issues, this could be sorted.
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BillyStubbsTears wrote:
CusworthRovers wrote:
What the chuff do you expect?
It'd be nice if we could expect the Plod to do a bit of traffic management instead of just seeing their role as planning a covert operation to get the Away fans out before Worls War 3 breaks out.
A bit of sensible temporary road closure would solve the problem. Stop anyone travelling up White Rose Way from the Outlet so that traffic leavingvthe stadium to go towards Carr House Road gas priority at the roundabout. Block off the entrance onto White Rose way at Porcelanosa so that traffic going towards the M18 has to go down Stadium Way but has 100% priority at the roundabout by the Outlet.
If the Plod saw part of their role as being to provide a service to the people who pay for them instead of being obsessed with none existent public order issues, this could be sorted.
Unfortunately BST you have used two words/phrases which are totally alien to SY Police's way of thinking.
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If the away coaches were parked somewhere near the Harley Davidson place, they would be able to go around one roundabout and straight onto the motorway, it`s not a far walk for the way fans, no futhur than the walk you have at Hillsborough when they park the coaches down that road behind Mcdonalds/KFC, or whatever it is at the bottom of Leppings lane
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BillyStubbsTears wrote:
A bit of sensible temporary road closure would solve the problem. Stop anyone travelling up White Rose Way from the Outlet so that traffic leavingvthe stadium to go towards Carr House Road gas priority at the roundabout. Block off the entrance onto White Rose way at Porcelanosa so that traffic going towards the M18 has to go down Stadium Way but has 100% priority at the roundabout by the Outlet.
You might need to explain your routes again as it's confusing, before I start arguing against it. You might also want to consider writing a letter of approval to the council and ask for temp road closure orders (not easy to get neither and that's just for minor roads) before we consider closing arterial routes in/out of Doncaster. I'll give you any odds now, that you'll not get them. Finally, I never thought my taxes would be for the Cops to be glorified traffic lights. Might want to consider DMBC traffic marshals or SMC staff doing something, as they can, obviously once you get your road closure order in place. As I've said, we have upteen car parks, side roads all filtering into one temp gridlocked road. For a short period, you are going to be stuck in traffic. Think lot's of people, think many brum brums, think what it's like in rush hour....think walking, think alternative easier parking and then a walk, think push-bikes, think once, think twice, think bike!
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Temporary road closures are in place for every single home match at Bramall Lane (for example) and I'm sure many other places. It's a matter of will. The police clearly don't see it as a major problem if 5,000 people sit twiddling their thumbs for an hour outside the KMS. They have more pressing priorities. Like pretending to be Carabinieri getting Mafia bosses to and from the jailhouse.
Of course, coppers frequently WERE glorified traffic lights back in the day, before they managed to persuade us all that that was beneath them and they should be doing sexier work.
On nights like Tuesday, by the way, it wasn't people sat in traffic \"for a short period\". The entire system was gridlocked for the thick end of an hour, entirely due to the actions of the Plod in prioritising the evacuation of the Toon fans and then doing fcuk all to aleviate the problem that they had caused.
And of course, as a result, the major arterial road that you speak of IS effectively closed to non-match traffic coming into Donny on nights like Tuesday. I bet anybody coming home after a hard day on the road was chuffed to fcuking bits that the Plod and Council had kept White Rose Way open for them, as they ran into the gridlock and sat there till 11pm. Now, if a bit of common sense was applied and for an hour or so White Rose Way was partially closed, with traffic off the M18 diverted off up Balby Carr, job done. Even better - why not use them new electronic signs on the motorway that never ever give any relevant information whatsoever to advise traffic for Donny between 21:45 and 23:00 to take the A1(M) and come in through Balby?
It requires a bit of thought and a bit of planning, I grant you, but we're hardly talking Operation fcuking Overlord here are we? What it requires is for someone in authority to give a shit.
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Why don't you park at Hyde Park or Belle Vue area. Why not B & Q side. No or limited queuing at these locations. It's only a short walk
On all my visits to The Lane, or any other grounds I've not seen road closures in operation. The only closures I see are side streets for residential parking.
And of course we don't sit for 1 hour all the time neither, do we. Let's put a bit of realism in here. This was the big game when traffic would be at it's highest. Are we saying for every Rovers game we are having to sit for 1 hour, cos on average it's taking me 20-30 mins to get home.....and I park as close to the ground as I can.
Again, traffic coming off the motorway into Doncaster at around 10pm is hardly going to number count past 1 hand is it. It's hardly making a massive impact on congestion. Once again, it's the sheer volume of traffic leaving one place at one particular time.
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Not sure what you're arguing here Cussy. Firstly it was a no-no to even think about closing White Rose Way because it is a major arterial road. Then, there's nobody using it. So presumably now you're agreeing that if White Rose Way was entirely closed off from the Outlet to the roundabout before Carr House Road (thus allowing traffic leaving the KMS either North or South to have priority) it wouldn't seriously inconvenience the rest of civilization?
And yes, it could be implemented just for the bigger matches. Of which there are half a dozen or so each season, all pretty easy to identify.
By the way, Bramall Lane itself is entirely closed to traffic on match days. This is a major arterial road. It's the A621 and connects the Inner Ring Road to the major roads running south/south east out of Sheffield. As I say, a matter of will and priority.
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My point is clear. We have large amounts of traffic at a given time for a short period. We will get queues of traffic, unfortunately for some. We cannot close the roads round the ground as we have industrial/work units, shopping centres, eating establishments etc etc (are they going to be happy with this). We have extensive parking around the stadia. Our ground is next to the main arterial routes in/out of Doncaster. We have a new fangled out of town ground built next to out of town commercial, business units. There's a few at it mate. I take your point re the Lane, but that's built around a few houses and easy to do, easy to divert etc etc not like what we have.
Now get used to the queues for the odd big game and you will be OK. Alternatively, like I said, if you are still unhappy try those alternative parking haunts......after that I can't help you my friend.
Shall we move onto the argument of why haven't we got road-sweepers permanently outside a chippy?
Right I'm off to watch MotD......tbc
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It looks like the road to the motorway is being made into a dual carriageway, more congestion when the start it
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