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Title: If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Poshrover on April 07, 2010, 05:22:21 pm
If/when Billy goes who would you like to bring in to Rovers to replace him within our budget?

I have seen Craig Mackail-Smith quite a few times and I think he is a SOD type player. He is energetic,a great team player with loads of movement and  gives 100% week after week. He may fancy another crack in the Championship and he should be within budget. He is not a tall striker but leads the line well.

If we wanted a tall striker Liam Dickinson is a player that I rate but I am not sure of his personality. He has had more clubs than Arnold Player but he is still quite young and could be improved with coaching by SOD and ROK.  

Any other suggestions?
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on April 07, 2010, 05:24:11 pm
Would you say Le Fondre of Rovrum is a similar type of player to Sharp, and would fit in in his place and perhaps be worth looking at?
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: vikingwill on April 07, 2010, 05:48:15 pm
Not sure of a specific person yet, but if we did get someone new I would like him to be a similar player to sharpy, i.e strong, feared by defenders, keeps the ball well etc
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Snods Shinpad 2 on April 07, 2010, 06:00:41 pm
Ched Evans (season loan)?

Why waste cash on ridiculous transfer fees when the season ticket holders at Bramall Lane can do it for us. :laugh:
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: donnypaul on April 07, 2010, 06:08:17 pm
plymouths brad wright phillips or the other lad who played up front with him ,thought there both had good movement which would  fit into  our style of play
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 07, 2010, 06:12:02 pm
Mackie is a good shout as is Fallon, not convinced on Wright-Phillips though.

One that there has been a hint of is Brett Pitman.  Rumoured we've looked at him and Hayter was singing his praises the other week aswell.  Wouldn't surprise me.  That Le Fondre will probably go to Barnsley.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Wellred on April 07, 2010, 06:29:33 pm
Poshrover wrote:
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If/when Billy goes who would you like to bring in to Rovers to replace him within our budget?

I have seen Craig Mackail-Smith quite a few times and I think he is a SOD type player. He is energetic,a great team player with loads of movement and  gives 100% week after week. He may fancy another crack in the Championship and he should be within budget. He is not a tall striker but leads the line well.

If we wanted a tall striker Liam Dickinson is a player that I rate but I am not sure of his personality. He has had more clubs than Arnold Player but he is still quite young and could be improved with coaching by SOD and ROK.  

Any other suggestions?


Is that Arnold Player or Gary Palmer?
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: DMnumber4 on April 07, 2010, 06:50:43 pm
Definitely:

Adam Le Fondre
Billy Paynter
Gary Hooper
Jordan Rhodes
Lee Novak
Jermaine Easter (rated him when at Wycombe!)

Maybe:

Brett Pitman
Bobby Grant
Chris Dagnall
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Adam on April 07, 2010, 06:54:43 pm
I take it the Jason Walker \"sign him up\" parade has stopped now?

Ridiculous.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: DMnumber4 on April 07, 2010, 07:01:59 pm
Poshrover wrote:
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I have seen Craig Mackail-Smith quite a few times and I think he is a SOD type player. He is energetic,a great team player with loads of movement and  gives 100% week after week. He may fancy another crack in the Championship and he should be within budget. He is not a tall striker but leads the line well.


Is he not too similar to Hayter? We need a Grant Holt, Danny Graham, Rickie Lambert type then someone to play off him I think.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Snods Shinpad 2 on April 07, 2010, 07:03:04 pm
Rigoglioso wrote:
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I hope SO'D is on the blower right now to Kevin Blackwell. Imagine the conversation...

 :laugh:

Kevin Blackwell. Football's ultimate anti-scout.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Akinfenwa on April 07, 2010, 07:20:56 pm
Simon Cox on a season loan from West Brom maybe? He's in a similar situation to what BS was last year. Scored for fun at League One but not had much of a run in the team after a big transfer to a CCC club. He probably won't get much of a look-in in the Premier next season.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: stockyboy on April 07, 2010, 07:48:19 pm
Simon Cox, Adam Le Fondre, Jordan Rhodes or Charlie Austin would do nicely for me.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: SkellowRover on April 07, 2010, 08:05:43 pm
I know ii's just a \"rumour\" but apparently Stock is on his way to the Blades in the summer with Billy & Montgomery coming to us. I've no idea how strong this runour is but a few people have heared the same thing.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: PDX_Rover on April 07, 2010, 08:14:24 pm
I'd take that deal.  Stock going to the Blades and BS and Montgomery coming the other way, frankly...  We've done OK without Stocky and great though, he is, Sharp alone would be worth the swapsie.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Chris on April 07, 2010, 08:45:03 pm
Parkin anyone?
Would be good to see him and Fairhurst together!
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Barmby Rover on April 07, 2010, 08:51:30 pm
One name to replace billy next year......a fit Steve Brooker! Cost, nothing, height, scores and strength. He would fit the bill, who says that SOD's gamble couldn't pay of yet? I wouldn't bet against his judgement.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Chris on April 07, 2010, 09:14:40 pm
SkellowRover wrote:
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I know ii's just a \"rumour\" but apparently Stock is on his way to the Blades in the summer with Billy & Montgomery coming to us. I've no idea how strong this runour is but a few people have heared the same thing.


Nick Montgomery is out of contract after this season so they can't offer him out.

Rumour dismissed  B)
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: mutleyrover on April 07, 2010, 09:21:25 pm
Jordan Rhodes would top my list.  Have seen him a few times and always impressed.  Scored a lot of goals and a constant threat in both the air and on the ground. Also a link to the club as his dad used to play for us in goals.  Not sure what type of fee he would command though.

Failing that, maybe a return to Yorkshire for Will Hoskins, particularly if Watford are relegated. Not really settled at Watford but was very impressive for the Millers!
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: DonnyEl on April 07, 2010, 09:24:32 pm
ambitious but...

tamas priskin
john stead

both seem unwanted at ipswich although stead looks like he's going to coventry
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: ptaylor-red on April 07, 2010, 09:50:30 pm
tamas priskin - ipswich
adam le fondre - rotherham
steve morison - millwall

any of the 3 would be fine ;)
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on April 07, 2010, 10:17:05 pm
I believe Bogdanovic at Barnsley is out of contract. Has scored some really good goals although there are questions about his work rate.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: BobG on April 07, 2010, 10:20:20 pm
If the unthinkable happened and that Stock/Blades deal was really on the cards, I'd bite their bloody hands off. But it won't be will it? What football club would give any other club a couple of million qwuids worth of talent in return for a very good player who's spent the last 2 years struggling with a bad back? That's why I'd bite their hands off. Stocky might make it back, and he'd be worth his weight in gold if he did, but that's one helluva'n ask.

Cheers

BobG
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: wilts rover on April 07, 2010, 10:30:32 pm
Caleb Folan or Craig Fagan from Hull, they will be trimming their budget this summer and neither seem to have cut it in the PL but we do a job in the Championship
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: JonWallsend on April 07, 2010, 10:44:25 pm
General consensus among Plymouth fans is that Fallon is one of the worst players they have ever had. They all rate Mackie very highly and on Saturday's showing I can see why.

 It's going to have to be a loanee again for me- any proven goalscorer from this league or the one below will be out of our price range. You then start gambling on a player from League 2 making the step up and again, financially, we are not in a position to start gambling.

 Unfortunately at this moment I can't offer any potential realistic suggestions but I believe Gary Hooper is on his way from Scunthorpe so I'd see who they have earmarked as his replacement and try to nip in first.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: BobG on April 07, 2010, 10:48:11 pm
Ooh sneaky! Sneaky - but a very, very good idea Jon. :)

BobG
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Gold Coast Viking on April 08, 2010, 12:17:03 am
A pretty useful player called Robbie Fowler may be available. Short term fix I agree, but North Queensland Fury are in danger of going under at the moment and the manager, ex Rangers Ian Ferguson has already quit and Robbie doesn't know what to do with himself.
Nth Qld pay him $900k a year which is about 1/2 a million pounds, so not sure how that fits within our budget. I can tell you one thing though. He still knows how to find the back of the net and has scored some screamers this past season.

Cheers to all,

Phil
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: VikingJames on April 08, 2010, 02:05:13 pm
How about Reuben Reid?

I know he hasn't had the best time at Peterborough on loan and hasn't had much of a look in at WBA, but I doubt he'll be getting a game at Baggies next season, and I reckon he would be more affordable than most of the names mentioned in this thread. I was quite impressed with him when we played Peterborough last month - he had alot of pace, and played ok despite being out of position. I know he hasn't scored goals at this level, but he scored plenty for Rotherham, and maybe with a bit of O'Driscoll magic, he could be turned into a good player.

Another player who could be a realistic target is David McGoldrick. He is another one who has seen his chances limited this season with Forest, but has proved himself to be a capable striker in the past with Bournemouth and Southampton, and if Forest get into the Premier League, he could see himself looking to move elswhere to play more first team football. He has a bit of pace and caused us a few problems when we lost to Saints at home last season. I know he is another one who perhaps hasn't filled his potential at this level yet, but as we've seen with Billy Sharp, SOD has a good record of helping out of favour players to maximise their potential in the Championship.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: PACMAN on April 08, 2010, 03:36:33 pm
Jon Stead for me, probably available at a reasonable price although wages could be a problem. An intelligent footballer who would buy into the SOD system, IMHO. ;)
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: VikingJames on April 08, 2010, 03:38:14 pm
PACMAN wrote:
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Jon Stead for me, probably available at a reasonable price although wages could be a problem. An intelligent footballer who would buy into the SOD system, IMHO. ;)


Very likely that he'll sign for Coventry this summer unfortunately.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Thinwhiteduke on April 09, 2010, 01:47:54 pm
Gary Hooper from just down the road at Scunny. Its common knowledge at their Club that he'll be on his way in the summer, shouldnt be too high a transfer fee, and his currentswages, I would expect, must be lower than what we could potentially offer.

At the very least, Id hope someone at DRFC is considering him as a viable option, because personally, I think he's a cracking player.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Lytham Rover on April 09, 2010, 02:01:43 pm
i think we will have to be looking at those players whose clubs are going up or going down

so i would like nathan tyson being played out of position at forest but quick has been prolific in the past
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Mike_F on April 09, 2010, 02:28:28 pm
That's not a bad shout, Bedale. He wuold certainly add another dimension to our attack.

I tell you who else I would like. If Wolves stay up I can see them letting Ebanks-Blake go. He hasn't done anything in the Prem but scores for fun at this level.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: WSBBA_Ben on April 09, 2010, 02:39:01 pm
Reuben Reid is a good shout; SO'D was keen on him last summer, prompting all my Rotherham United supporting buddies (all 1 of him) to suggest he was nailed on to be Rovers' newest hitman. He's out of favour at WBA and his lack of minutes in the Championship don't bode well for a Premier League squad player.


Failing that; we'll settle for a superstar French kid from Arsenal.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Wello on April 09, 2010, 03:05:54 pm
Dont Worry billy will be here perminant next season
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Akinfenwa on April 09, 2010, 03:54:46 pm
I've always rated Nathan Tyson, he causes loads of problems for defenders with his lightning pace. Not the best finisher but I think we need some pace up front to give us more variation. We're sometimes a bit one dimentional up front and easy to defend against when we're behind as proven by our terrible record when we concede first. I reckon someone like Tyson gives defenders a bit more to think about and allow us to try something other than playing through a packed defence.

Another player who I've always thought to be alright is Pawel Abbott, scored a few this season for Penney's struggling Oldham. He's 6ft2 and I can remember him scoring for fun at Huddersfield. Might be worth a shot if theres a chance we can get him to rediscover his goalscoring form from a few years back. He might be past it though, I'm not sure.

An option I've mentioned above would be to get someone in on a season long loan like we did with Billy Sharp. Someone who's a proven goalscorer but hasn't done much after a big money move. I've already mentioned Simon Cox from West Brom, he hasn't had much game time this season and will probably play even less next year in the Premier League. He scored a lot in League One and I'm pretty sure he can do it at this level. Another player in a similar situation is Joe Garner at Forest who was good for Carlisle in League One the year we went up.

Another option could be to take a chance on someone from the Conference or below. There are some good strikers down there that have the potential to do well at this level eg. Aaron McLean, Mackail-Smith, Beckford, Austin, DJ Campbell. Currently there's a striker for York who's scored quite a lot this season called Richard Brodie. I think he's quite highly rated, youngish (early 20's) and he's 6ft3 which could be an option for us. He probably wouldn't cost too much however would be a big ask for someone from this category to step up to Championship level and score goals immediately.

Then there's the already mentioned:
- Reuben Reid, Adam Le Fondre, Chris Dagnall, all done well in League Two and are still young with potential to improve.
- Jamie Mackie, not prolific but quite highly rated, he was Plymouth's best player against us.
- Craig Mackail-Smith, really quick and works hard but he hasn't scored that many at this level, a good player though who could do better at a stronger team.

I reckon all of them could be affordable and are probably the types we will realistically be looking at in the summer. Players like Hooper, Rhodes and Austin would probably cost closer to £1m. Bigger clubs will be in for them.
Title: Re:If Sharp goes who would you like?
Post by: Chris on April 09, 2010, 05:47:10 pm
Simon Cox would be a brilliant signing. I'm sure West Brom would be keen to loan him to us for a season given our style of play and the situation with Sharp at Sheffield must also raise our reputation amongst other clubs looking to loan out a player.