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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: yapper1901 on May 04, 2010, 03:43:58 pm
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on sky sports news
sky sports understands all parties involved believe this is the best for all parties
me I think they are probably right, I do think Heffernan is still a championship player but unfortunately over last two seasons he has fell out with odriscall even last season when we were scoring no goals he was sat on bench
till the songs started
\"we want Paul Heffernan\"
and then even though he only played part of the season he still ended top scorer and then this season not a look in, now I understand this is because of sharp but they could have formed a partnership together but I believe due to the fans calling the manager out
he fell out with Heffernan
good luck paul for the future
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Paul is a good footballer but not champioship quality. Even after being recalled from Bristol he has had his chance but has been unable to rise to the challenge. Best of luck to him for the future.
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he missed 3 chances against scunny
and 1 almost sitter against swansea where it would have been easier to score than miss
the way to prove the manager wrong is to score goals and he didnt
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I'm not going to say he isn't good enough, as it will start another dubious 'he did it last season' debate. I will simply say 'we need better to move on'
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Im going to thank the best Rovers goalscorer we have had in recent years.
Some great and important goals along the way.
Good luck Heffs, you have been brilliant for us.
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Heffs has been part of the journey, an important part at that! whether he can cut it at this level is a matter of opinions, Heffs moves on and hopefully gets his goal scoring talents going again, we as a club move on and try to improve the squad hopefully with a better striker, preferably Billy. Heffs goes with my best wishes and maybe the Team from S6 might take a look at him, he`ll get them goals in League 1
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mushRTID wrote:
Im going to thank the best Rovers goalscorer we have had in recent years.
Some great and important goals along the way.
Good luck Heffs, you have been brilliant for us.
in the pantheon of recent rovers goal scorers in my book he is behind paul barnes and gregg blundell but that is damned good company to be in
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I've backed him and backed him and backed him. But Sunday's miss with 5 minutes to go proves why he won't be here next year. Dare I say Lewis wouldn't have missed?
That chance was the easiest of the game and don't come along too often in the Championship.
Thanks Heffs, yet another player which couldn't cope with the pace at which this club is developing / evolving / improving.
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Depends how you view it, Heffs has scored at a higher level which to me adds to the argument of him been the best.
I understand other arguments backing the others though.
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No great surprise really. Expect him to go back to Bristol Rovers where he will continue to do a good job. Good luck to him,but the right decision I feel.
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Well it was hardly going to help him when he was scoring us to safety, after being dropped for the first half of the season last year. Then not be in favour again and have a 'better striker' come in on loan on more wages and play every game when you are on the bench watching.
If you ask me I think Heffernan hated the fact we called him back, so in return maynot have finished to his ability in recent weeks. I said it before Heffernans biggest mistake was being sent off in the play offs two years back!
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danrover82 wrote:
If you ask me I think Heffernan hated the fact we called him back, so in return maynot have finished to his ability in recent weeks.
Utter b*llocks!
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mushRTID wrote:
Depends how you view it, Heffs has scored at a higher level which to me adds to the argument of him been the best.
I understand other arguments backing the others though.
Higher level than who though?
Looking at the striker situation we've got:
Brooker - crock
Guy - not good enough, on his way to Oldham
Hayter - model pro, tireless runner, scores now and then.
Sharp - goal getter. tough little work horse.
Heffernan - eye for goal but has to be right time, the goals find him, rather than the other way.
JET - young, versatile, creates a bit of something from nothing when the time suits.
Fairhurst - one 'for the future'. hope he gets the chance he deserves to shine.
So theres 2 on their way (Guy and Brooker), two loans (JET and Sharp), two out of contract (Fairhurst and Heffs) leaving us with Hayter! :unsure:
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Filo wrote:
danrover82 wrote:
If you ask me I think Heffernan hated the fact we called him back, so in return maynot have finished to his ability in recent weeks.
Utter b*llocks!
He's made no secret of the fact he loved it down there. He is a confidence player like anyone. I dont think he ejoyed his time this season under SOD as he probably thought he did enough last year to secure more faith from the gaffer. Probably hated the wrong word, but I honestly think its afftected him like it would any player!
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DMnumber4 wrote:
mushRTID wrote:
Depends how you view it, Heffs has scored at a higher level which to me adds to the argument of him been the best.
I understand other arguments backing the others though.
Higher level than who though?
Looking at the striker situation we've got:
Brooker - crock
Guy - not good enough, on his way to Oldham
Hayter - model pro, tireless runner, scores now and then.
Sharp - goal getter. tough little work horse.
Heffernan - eye for goal but has to be right time, the goals find him, rather than the other way.
JET - young, versatile, creates a bit of something from nothing when the time suits.
Fairhurst - one 'for the future'. hope he gets the chance he deserves to shine.
So theres 2 on their way (Guy and Brooker), two loans (JET and Sharp), two out of contract (Fairhurst and Heffs) leaving us with Hayter! :unsure:
I forgot to quote bedales response, my fault. Higher level than Blundell and Barnes.
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There's no real debate to be had. Heffernan has scored 53 goals for us in 109 starts.
That's a higher rate than Blundell, Barnes or any other striker we have had since King Alick (ignoring players who only scored a handful of goals).
An all-time Rovers great, without a shadow of a doubt. Up there with Kitchen, Warboys, Cramb, Barnes, Blundell and any of the other Rovers striker heroes I've been lucky enough to watch. in fact, above all of them. And even more remarkable when you take into account that he was rarely a first choice player over the last 4 seasons.
It also reflects well on the rest if the squad that they managed to lay so many goals on a plate for him. They must have really liked him, because they didn't put them on a plate for any other player.
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Bretby Rover wrote:
Paul is a good footballer but not champioship quality.
Even excusing the spelling - that statement is absolute and utter rubbish.
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BillyStubbsTears wrote:
There's no real debate to be had. Heffernan has scored 53 goals for us in 109 starts.
That's a higher rate than Blundell, Barnes or any other striker we have had since King Alick (ignoring players who only scored a handful of goals).
An all-time Rovers great, without a shadow of a doubt. Up there with Kitchen, Warboys, Cramb, Barnes, Blundell and any of the other Rovers striker heroes I've been lucky enough to watch. in fact, above all of them. And even more remarkable when you take into account that he was rarely a first choice player over the last 4 seasons.
It also reflects well on the rest if the squad that they managed to lay so many goals on a plate for him. They must have really liked him, because they didn't put them on a plate for any other player.
Amen to that BST.
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Can't believe we haven't had any cash offers for him if he was that good! vastly over-rated in my book and certainly not good enough to lace Peter Kitchens boots!
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Savvy wrote:
Can't believe we haven't had any cash offers for him if he was that good! vastly over-rated in my book and certainly not good enough to lace Peter Kitchens boots!
Heffs has been injury prone during his career. However, he is proven good enough. How can you even argue when the stats are there straight infront of you?
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I forgot to add that there will, no doubt be a succession of miserable t**ts coming on here to regale us with their opinion that Heffernan is hugely over-rated and strikers with a 50% hit rate grow on trees.
As for Kitchen, I get as dewey-eyed as anyone when I remembervhim, but let's have a bit of hard-headed realism here.
Heffernan has scored at very nearly a goal every other start in Tier 2 and 3 in an era when the top level of English football has it's pick of the world's talent. Peter Kitchen scored at a worse rate for us in Tier 4 in an era when the best strikers in the top tier were the likes of Mick Channon, Paul Mariner and Alan Sunderland.
The issue being that the quality of English football today is incomparable to what it was in the 1970s. Go watch an old Match of the Day and see for yourself. So a player who has been a success for us at this level in this era is head and shoulders above someone who was a success in Division 4 in the mid 70s, whatever our rose tinted specs would have us believe.
Go back 30 years and players like Heffernan (and Sharp before anybody starts babbying) would have been top-flight players. No question whatsoever.
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BillyStubbsTears wrote:
I forgot to add that there will, no doubt be a succession of miserable t**ts coming on here to regale us with their opinion that Heffernan is hugely over-rated and strikers with a 50% hit rate grow on trees.
As for Kitchen, I get as dewey-eyed as anyone when I remembervhim, but let's have a bit of hard-headed realism here.
Heffernan has scored at very nearly a goal every other start in Tier 2 and 3 in an era when the top level of English football has it's pick of the world's talent. Peter Kitchen scored at a worse rate for us in Tier 4 in an era when the best strikers in the top tier were the likes of Mick Channon, Paul Mariner and Alan Sunderland.
The issue being that the quality of English football today is incomparable to what it was in the 1970s. Go watch an old Match of the Day and see for yourself. So a player who has been a success for us at this level in this era is head and shoulders above someone who was a success in Division 4 in the mid 70s, whatever our rose tinted specs would have us believe.
Go back 30 years and players like Heffernan (and Sharp before anybody starts babbying) would have been top-flight players. No question whatsoever.
I totally agree.
When you look at footage from 20-40 even 10 years back, you can tell on the eye that it is a different ball game now.
Some people still argue that the game was better back in the day tho, maybe it takes a trained eye to see the difference? :)
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topnotch_Donny wrote:
Some people still argue that the game was better back in the day tho, maybe it takes a trained eye to see the difference? :)
It's called Old-Gitism. It's the sort of complaint that causes folk of a certain age to insist against all evidence and logic that things were better when I were a lad.
In terms of football, it takes a special kind of stubborness to even begin to think that the quality was better years back. That classic England-Brazil match in Mexico for example. You see more intense warm downs these days. It's hard for the old folk to accept, but the stars of their youth would simply not get a touch in the modern game. Players today are that good and that fit.
So, Zidane was better than Maradona who was better than Pele who was better than Puskas and so on. Over the next decade there'll be a player who makes Zidane look like a Donkey. George Best would get a game in L2 these days if he worked on his fitness and discipline. Kevin Keegan would be a willing Championship trier.
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Sad to see him go, and I'll have to change my picture at some point! He's been a great player for us in his time here and I agree that he stands up there with the likes of Colin Cramb, Paul Barnes and Gregg Blundell. Given the fact that he hasn't been top of the pecking order here this season (and unfortunately hasn't shown the form of last season when he's had the chances) it's probably the right time for him to move on. I'm absolutely certain that he will go on to do well at his next club, but he has nothing to prove to us and should always be guaranteed a top reception if he returns to play against us at any point in the future.
We will obviously need to replace him, which I don't think will be as easy or as impossible as some would have you believe.
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Jonathan wrote:
Sad to see him go, and I'll have to change my picture at some point! He's been a great player for us in his time here and I agree that he stands up there with the likes of Colin Cramb, Paul Barnes and Gregg Blundell. Given the fact that he hasn't been top of the pecking order here this season (and unfortunately hasn't shown the form of last season when he's had the chances) it's probably the right time for him to move on. I'm absolutely certain that he will go on to do well at his next club, but he has nothing to prove to us and should always be guaranteed a top reception if he returns to play against us at any point in the future.
We will obviously need to replace him, which I don't think will be as easy or as impossible as some would have you believe.
I think it will be hard to replace him. Goalscorers cost the earth. It's going be bad if the club fail to bring in an adequate replacement.
Ah well, we have the world cup to relax us as it is going to be an intense summer, what with the majority of the players nearly out of contract :(
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Today is the day I've been dreading for months, even though I knew it was coming. The realisation we've most probably seen the last of Heffs in the red and white hoops makes me very sad indeed, sentimental old fool that I am.
Good luck, Paul, wherever you play next.
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BillyStubbsTears wrote:
I forgot to add that there will, no doubt be a succession of miserable t**ts coming on here.....
No, surely not BST!
I find it difficult to believe that Rovers have not let Heffs go without having more than an eye to an adequate replacement(s), whether they will prove to be so, we shall find out next season. But you must admit that Billy Sharp has shown us to be the club to be at for somebody who wants to make their name.
Good luck Heffs at your next club, always one of my favourite players but sometimes a change is needed for all parties involved.
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I will always sit and wonder if he didnt have so many injuries, how many goals this lad could have got. When fully fit, and in form, he is a goalscoring machine, the most gifted finisher ive seen at the club. BUT, unfortunately, we havent seen enough of him fully fit. Really gutted to see him go, although fully understand and agree with the decision. I wish him well, and will look forward to keeping a eye on his new club, and hope to see him on the scoresheet often. Good look Paul, all the best! WEVE LOST PAUL HEFFERNAN!!!
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Thinwhiteduke wrote:
Bretby Rover wrote:
Paul is a good footballer but not champioship quality.
Even excusing the spelling - that statement is absolute and utter rubbish.
Let's see where he ends up. What Championship club do you think wouldn't like a free striker?
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Glyn_Wigley wrote:
Thinwhiteduke wrote:
Bretby Rover wrote:
Paul is a good footballer but not champioship quality.
Even excusing the spelling - that statement is absolute and utter rubbish.
Let's see where he ends up. What Championship club do you think wouldn't like a free striker?
Sheffield Wednesday? in League 1?
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I'm going to keep an eye on this thread :laugh:
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=463&fid=221&sty=2&act=1&mid=2121719756
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http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=463&fid=221&sty=2&act=1&mid=2121719756
i think Sheffield united are interested
'Forget Bogdanovic, Heffernan offers more qualities, is quite quick and can finish. He'd be happy to play a bit part role, and not much in wages.
Would any of you take him?'
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bessacarrover wrote:
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=463&fid=221&sty=2&act=1&mid=2121719756
i think Sheffield united are interested
'Forget Bogdanovic, Heffernan offers more qualities, is quite quick and can finish. He'd be happy to play a bit part role, and not much in wages.
Would any of you take him?'
Thanks. I went to the correct page and copied the URL, but it kept directing me to the main page?
Thanks for correcting it.
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its Alright :)
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[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISveHuxHfFs[/video]
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RoversDave wrote:
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISveHuxHfFs[/video]
I bet it took him ages getting over that when he knew he was going to be out the door.
Hayters missed a few sitters too.
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the stats have been good for heffs in previous years i agree, has anyone got the stats for this year thou?
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bpoolrover wrote:
the stats have been good for heffs in previous years i agree, has anyone got the stats for this year thou?
It has been different this season though.
If Heffs had a chance and given a good run, he would reach the heights of last season.
The problem is injuries and having been knocked down too often. He must be gutted having done what he did last season only to be last choice striker again this season.
He's going now so no point arguing the matter. Fingers crossed SOD brings in another natural goalscorer as we have none at the club at the minute.
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topnotch_Donny wrote:
Savvy wrote:
Can't believe we haven't had any cash offers for him if he was that good! vastly over-rated in my book and certainly not good enough to lace Peter Kitchens boots!
Heffs has been injury prone during his career. However, he is proven good enough. How can you even argue when the stats are there straight infront of you?
Take a look behind the stats and see just how compelling the evidence actually is. Just how many of these goals were scored against lower level opposition at the time and in meaningless JPT games and the like. I knew the Heff can do no wrong brigade would be out with the rose tinted glasses waxing lyrical with meaningless comparisons designed to cloud the issue. Its called head in the sandism and fails to answer the fundamental question of why we havent got a fee for him or had clubs queuing up to sign him if he was that good!!
The one thing I do agree on is that he should be given a warm reception if he ever returns to the moat!
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Heffs is one of my all time favourite Rovers players. The goal against Villa was a peach and apart form scoring against Derby, laying on that goal with that deft touch was the only other thing of note Lewis Guy contributed IMO.
Fare thee well Heffs. You've been great for us.
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Savvy wrote:
Take a look behind the stats and see just how compelling the evidence actually is. Just how many of these goals were scored against lower level opposition at the time and in meaningless JPT games and the like.
'kin 'ell lad, there's a whole Internet of information out there. If you wanted, you could find your answers in a couple of minutes.
The answer is that Heffernan's scoring record for us is like this:
35 goals in 88 League starts (presumably those were aginst sides who were in the same division as us at the time?)
4 goals in 5 FA Cup starts (3 against sides in the same division as us at the time, one against a team a division below us - that goal, in a replay, confirmed a victory against a side that we had struggled badly against in the first match and gave us a 14,000 home tie against a Premiership club as a reward)
4 goals in 6 starts in the League Cup (1 against a side a division below us. 1 superb finish against a Premiership side when we were in L1).
10 goals in 10 JPT starts (3 against sides from a division below us. The majority were crucial goals in our run to Cardiff.)
You reckon that was pointless? Ryan doesn't think so. He has commented often enough abotu that being our first ever national cup final. The 18,000 fans who went to Cardiff didn't think it was pointless. The Crewe opposition didn't think t was pointless in the semi-final. Presumably they were trying just a little bit when Heffernan scored four against them. O'Driscoll didn't think so - he knew how vital that Cup run was: were were utter gash in the league for the thick end of 12 months and that cup run was the one indication that we might be heading in the right direction. O'Driscoll himself said that the cup win bought him some time. Would he have survived a run of 45 points from 38 matches between Feb-Dec 2007 without that cup win? (Despite this, and very pointedly, O'Driscoll uttered not one word of praise for the player who scored 9 goals in that run, just like he didn't utter a single word of praise for him last season when he scored the 10 goals in 19 matches and utterly transformed our season.)
As a by the way, Heffernan's record of league goals (35 in 88 starts) is a fair bit worse than Billy Sharp's no question (85 in 166 starts). Since you have an obsession about the quality of the opposition, consider the two players' records in the Championship. Heffernan has 10 goals in 25 starts, Sharp has 23 in 70 starts. Heffernan's rate is significantly better.
I knew the Heff can do no wrong brigade would be out with the rose tinted glasses waxing lyrical with meaningless comparisons designed to cloud the issue. Its called head in the sandism and fails to answer the fundamental question of why we havent got a fee for him or had clubs queuing up to sign him if he was that good!!
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Actually, what clouds any issue is meaningless opinions with little fact to back them up. And as I've commented many times before, the fact that no-one has signed Heffernan means absolutely nothing. It is an argument predicated on the assumption that managers are perfectly rational decision-making machines. Experience shows that this is not correct.
Managers get it wrong all the time. Our own manager thought that Mark Wilson was a better player than Paul Green and admitted that he was \"surprised\" by how well Green played when he finally selected him.
The simple and easy rebuttal of course is to turn it round and ask why no-one is beating a path to Bramall Lane to sign Billy Sharp.
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BST: I would of thought the easy answer as to why no-one is as desperate to sign Billy as you might think is due to him having a year left on his contract, a much bigger signing fee and bigger wages?
Heffs is available on a free and much smaller wages, and you would of thought with his comparable stats and skills to Sharp, people would be desperate for such a striker :S
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Im amazed how short peoples memories are. Heffernan deserves massive amounts of credit for his goals and professionism whilst being at DRFC. When not selected, he wasnt moaning and stipping his dummy out, he just got on with it. A credit to football, and more players with his attitude would make football a much more respected sport. Id like to see him go back to notts. Ive heard once Kasper leaves there wage bill is back to a manageable level. Graeme Lee at the back, Ravenhill in the middle and heffernan up top. Hooters round the corner. My 2nd team!!!!
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Bobjimwilly people are interesed in Heffs and if you can think about it for a minute,,,,,
Why would they pay ( and you to sawwy) a fee for a player that whose contract is allowed to run down by the club he is signed to.Donny or should i say SOD does not want to re sign Heffs ( fair enough) thats
His decision but he does not have to go on and publically announce that his agent is at fault, ie wages and demands etc, Paul was waiting for the club to begin initiating a contract extention in august of last year but it never happened. His agent asked a question and was told that the club were leaving all contracts talks until the end of the season.Well excuse me for being naieve, if i went to my gaffer and asked him what about re newing my contract as it is near ending and was told to wait and see, I would see it as a concern,and thats putting it mildly.So SOD comes out and says we looked at Heffs and we could not agree with his demands,THERE WERE NO DEMANDS FROM A GREEDY AGENT all that was asked was are you interested in re signing Heffs. For there to be a negociation it takes two sides,Donny did not say at any time , this is what we will sign Heffs up for and Heffs agent never got to say on what Donny what to offer BECAUSE THERS WAS NO OFFER. Simple as SOD does not want Heffs and That is the truth off the matter.AND SO BE IT. I just wish people could be honest and up front in their dealings with each other but in an media exploited industry its rarely going to happen.I will finish on this. Heffs has enjoyed every moment (bar the sending of at Southend) and will cherrish the times and the friends he has encountered with DONCASTER ROVERS, it has coincided with the rebirth and the gaining of the championship level in the league.He was instrumentel in bringing Donny`s first league trophy to the club. He has been happy to have been a part of your history and all of you should be happy that he was here doing his part for you . Good night
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newtownjoe1 wrote:
Heffs has enjoyed every moment (bar the sending of at Southend) and will cherrish the times and the friends he has encountered with DONCASTER ROVERS, it has coincided with the rebirth and the gaining of the championship level in the league.He was instrumentel in bringing Donny`s first league trophy to the club. He has been happy to have been a part of your history and all of you should be happy that he was here doing his part for you . Good night
Joe, Only the most stubborn of the Anti-Heffs Brigade will disagree with that. Please pass on our thanks to Paul for all his efforts over the past 5 years, as his contribution cannot be overstated.
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Hear hear Rob. Joe, please give Heffs our best. One of THE best strickers (!) I've seen in 37 years following Rovers. He deserves to play week in, week out and I hope he gets this.
Don't be a stranger Joe - hopefully we'll see you in the Lucky Pint next season?!
Cheers,
Mark B
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I agree wholeheartedly, good luck Heffs, you were a pleasure to watch. Best of luck in the future.
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I suppose I ought to repeat myself on a thread like this. It is the managers decision not to resign Heffs, fair enough he is the manager and his decisions have been pretty good to get us where we are. I do think he has made a mistake with Heffs, a lack of honesty with the player has resulted in Rovers missing out on money. He should have told him at the end of last season to go, and got a fee for him, which with his scoring record at that time would have been easily possible. If you then bench your best striker for the whole season is it surprising that when he returns at the end he is less than sharp( pun not intended), and worth nothing? That is the waste in the Heffernan story at Rovers, to have some people then trying to denegrate what he has done for this club is ridiculous. If he is so bad Bobjimwilly why weren't you screaming for him to be dropped after the Villa win, or after the final in Cardiff? He brought some great wins to this club over his career and those of us with a memory longer than a goldfish will be forever grateful to Paul Heffernan, one of the greatest strikers that have ever played for the club. My best wishes go with him.
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BillyStubbsTears wrote:
There's no real debate to be had. Heffernan has scored 53 goals for us in 109 starts.
I appreciate you take the time out to research mate, but that above does not tally with what DROS is saying now ie
\"Striker Heffernan joined Doncaster Rovers back in 2005 from Bristol City, going on to amass 126 appearances for the Rovers whilst netting 35 goals during his time at the Rovers.\"
I can't be arsed to research it mate, as I have my views on Heffs and where we are now.....but you show him a goal ratio of 1 in 2 and they show him at 1 in 3.5 ish. That's a big difference. Just thought I'd point that out. However, I'm sure you are right.
Finally, Good Luck Heffs I am sure you can continue scoring (agreed, hope Joe stays on here). If we are to get a better striker, then the club comes first. We move on, the club moves on, the club has to adapt, has to improve...........the club has to conform to how the manager wants us to play and what type of player he wants. All the aces lay with Sean. One simply cannot argue with that, at this moment in time.
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CusworthRovers wrote:
BillyStubbsTears wrote:
There's no real debate to be had. Heffernan has scored 53 goals for us in 109 starts.
I appreciate you take the time out to research mate, but that above does not tally with what DROS is saying now ie
\"Striker Heffernan joined Doncaster Rovers back in 2005 from Bristol City, going on to amass 126 appearances for the Rovers whilst netting 35 goals during his time at the Rovers.\"
I can't be arsed to research it mate, as I have my views on Heffs and where we are now.....but you show him a goal ratio of 1 in 2 and they show him at 1 in 3.5 ish. That's a big difference. Just thought I'd point that out. However, I'm sure you are right.
Finally, Good Luck Heffs I am sure you can continue scoring (agreed, hope Joe stays on here). If we are to get a better striker, then the club comes first. We move on, the club moves on, the club has to adapt, has to improve...........the club has to conform to how the manager wants us to play and what type of player he wants. All the aces lay with Sean. One simply cannot argue with that, at this moment in time.
53 and 35 could just be a transposition typo.
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awsworth_rover wrote:
Im amazed how short peoples memories are. Heffernan deserves massive amounts of credit for his goals and professionism whilst being at DRFC. When not selected, he wasnt moaning and stipping his dummy out, he just got on with it. A credit to football, and more players with his attitude would make football a much more respected sport. Id like to see him go back to notts. Ive heard once Kasper leaves there wage bill is back to a manageable level. Graeme Lee at the back, Ravenhill in the middle and heffernan up top. Hooters round the corner. My 2nd team!!!!
See you in there Aggis lad!
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CusworthRovers wrote:
BillyStubbsTears wrote:
There's no real debate to be had. Heffernan has scored 53 goals for us in 109 starts.
I appreciate you take the time out to research mate, but that above does not tally with what DROS is saying now ie
\"Striker Heffernan joined Doncaster Rovers back in 2005 from Bristol City, going on to amass 126 appearances for the Rovers whilst netting 35 goals during his time at the Rovers.\"
I can't be arsed to research it mate, as I have my views on Heffs and where we are now.....but you show him a goal ratio of 1 in 2 and they show him at 1 in 3.5 ish. That's a big difference. Just thought I'd point that out. However, I'm sure you are right.
Finally, Good Luck Heffs I am sure you can continue scoring (agreed, hope Joe stays on here). If we are to get a better striker, then the club comes first. We move on, the club moves on, the club has to adapt, has to improve...........the club has to conform to how the manager wants us to play and what type of player he wants. All the aces lay with Sean. One simply cannot argue with that, at this moment in time.
Simple spadger.
DROS quotes Heffernan's League goals and ALL his League appearances (many, many of which were 5 minute sub appearances, chasing lost causes).
My numbers are his League + Cup goals and his League + Cup Starts.
For the record, Heffernan has 35 league goals in (I think) 88 league starts.
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Tbh heffernan is a great player but hes not good enuff and hasent proved him self to be an out and out goal scorer in this league
all the best to the lad but we need some one that is a proven goal scorer in this league e.g Billy Sharp or Gary Hooper