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Title: list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: not on facebook on May 24, 2010, 04:26:30 pm
if owt it will kill time at least

obviously no need to list doncaster rovers as a like
unless you dislike drfc

like
chelsea.....supporeted blues since primary school,must have been the white strpe they had down the home shorts in 1970's,or
the northstand which i only saw pictures of or via tv,it was bit like cowshed but just stuck out there all on its own,peter osgord/micky droy.

motherwell.....close connections with doncaster and motherwell lads

rangers.....political

cska moscow....moscow left a lasting impression on us when i was out there for a CL group game against cska moscow

russian national team....see above

italy national team.....must have been channel four on
sundays,fall out of paddock after closing time sunday session
back home fall asleep in front of tv watching channel four italian football with me dinner in me lap,wake up 19.00 then out on lash again sunday nite.

valrengå....local oslo team

dislikes
rotherham united....need i say more

celtic/hibs/rep of ireland....political

liverpool....cant stand their fans worldwide as they do me head in

australia....cant stand auzzies...if you hada bar and was selling yer beer at 5p a pint it would be full of auzzie back packers and at same time they would be looking for a bar that sells beer cheaper,then move on

usa....cant stand yanks

all other teams can take with pinch of salt
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: DMnumber4 on May 24, 2010, 04:46:48 pm
Why so many countries? Haha. I don't like the Australian cricket team, but I've got nothing against their footballers.

As has been recited to me a few times over the years:

\"the song \"we hate Sheffield Wednesday, we hate Rotherham too\" is incorrect, we hate bloody EVERYBODY!\"

One town, one team, one love, one passion, one Rovers  ;)
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on May 24, 2010, 05:41:56 pm
Likes

Queen of the South/Rangers (family)

Dislikes
Stranraer/Celtic (family)
Barnsley/Leeds (unpleasant experiences at both)
Clydebank when they existed because at an away game there with QOTS I had a can of Irn Bru confiscated from me.  I was 11 at the time but was deamt a threat.  Understandable in a way but the steward who took it not only threatened to have me arrested he then proceeded to drink the said drink in front of us.  What a t**t.  Only time I've ever really seen my Dad get angry with anyone.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: en aitch on May 24, 2010, 05:56:38 pm
DMNumber4 - One Fulham?

No hates - loads of not bothereds - lots of places where fans have behaved like knobheads, but then we have some of those too.

So - I really don't care about those teams.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: German Rover on May 24, 2010, 06:14:30 pm
Like Hibs, glentoran and borussia monchengladbach as all were substitutes for the rovers while i've been away. Like hamburg was on a ferry with loads going to the away leg at fulham and they were great fun to be around. bet they weren't like it on the way back.

Dislike Rotherham and Chesterfield for obvious reasons, despise bayern munich as they are the bas**rds who were fighting like f**k with us a couple of weeks ago whether we liked it or not. Dislike new Chelsea fans who think it is their god given right to win everything. Dislike Rangers because the heartless bitch who left me without a pot to piss in was a Rangers fan.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: not on facebook on May 24, 2010, 06:19:41 pm
spell check here germanrover but i will type it how it sounds

'dan-ker-shan'

you say you like hamburg

well for sure hamburg fans love kevin keegan after time he spent over there,just tell the hamburg fans that keegen is from doncaster and you will go down well with them i guess

think i will have to put bham city onto me dislikes
for pure fact whenever i used to bet on brum they would do the opposite and my bet would fall apart
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: DubaiRover on May 24, 2010, 06:26:19 pm
Likes

Newcastle, reason, one of the first footy shirts One of my older brothers mate wore in the 70's and thought it was a foreign glamerous side, doh. Met KK's family a few times while he was at Newcastle which reignited my liking.

Leeds, reason, well we are a town full of Leeds fans and me old man been from Skellow.

Dislikes

Rotherham, reason, Angel/county borough need I say more.

Scunny,reason, got 1 year ban from Glumford Park 1st season it opened after a steward knocked a rovers fan over the seats with a kid in his hands.

Millwall, reason, scum of the earth.

Regarding Premiership clubs (Newcastle here now included) I hate the greed that is ruining football, real fans are now getting priced out to make way for a special day out/birthday treat/hospitality plastic fans, I prefered listening to football and the roar of the crowd on the radio to watching the shite now served up on Sky, listening to 80+k fans at old Trafford and the amount of silence is deafening.
Something needs to be done to bring the passion back into football before it is too late, so many fans now believe the shite preached on SKY about how good football is and how it has evolved and it is total bullshit, they are making more money and taking the game backwards, investing in youth academies that produce f**k all, I am not against academies but to me it seems to smack of 'we invest millions in youth policies' when its maybe 1 players wages they spend.
Its the fans they should be investing in as they are the future but they are increasingly isolating the fans.
I would say of all Premiership clubs Manure are the ones I least like but actually admire what their fans are trying to do right now in buying the club bag from the yanks.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: DMnumber4 on May 24, 2010, 07:29:21 pm
en aitch wrote:
Quote
DMNumber4 - One Fulham?


Please explain...
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: Snods Shinpad 2 on May 24, 2010, 07:54:29 pm
Like:

'Udders: Local and harmless
Bradford: Same as above.
Wigan: Sticking it to the big boys.
Wimbledon: Had a rough deal.
FC United: Sticking it to Murdoch/ Glazer.
Hamilton Academicals: daft name
Accrington Stanley: if it wasn't for that milk advert, we'd be known nationally as the crappest team.
Bristol Rovers: they are called Rovers
Blackburn Rovers: same
Bournemouth: SoD, RoK, Stock, Jimmy etc etc

Dislike:

L**ds: a poor mans Man Utd.
Chelsea: boring club.
Chesterfield: 'orrible lot.
Man City post takeover: sold out.
Liverpool from 2000 onwards: constantly whining about everything.
Reading: for a defeat many moons ago that I have never forgotten and they are dull as dishwater.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: Boomstick on May 24, 2010, 08:03:50 pm
Likes

Rangers (political)
PAO (like their anthem)
Red Star (great fans)
Bayern Munich (just do)
Arsenal (great football, the undefeated side)


Dislikes

Celtic (political)
Leeds (scum donny whites)
Sheffield (dee dah Kitsons with huge chips on their sholders)
cnuthorpe (pointless club)
Rotherham (see above)
Liverpool (robbing Kitsons who always play the victim, with annoying accents)
Man u (glory hunting plactic nobody fans)
USA (USA! USA! USA! USA! Have no business playing football)
Chester (conferance days)
Yeovil (conferance days)
Tranmere (see liverpool)
Newcastle (ooh look at me i'm a proper geordie like, were a big club, Alan Shearer Sir Bobby, bla bla bla)
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: Chrisd_123 on May 24, 2010, 08:15:19 pm
Likes:
FC Lausanne (Long Story)
Arsenal (Used to go with my uncle when i was younger)
Fulham (Went to Hillsbrough in FA cup with them and loved it)

Dislikes:
Rotherham
Preston (Boring club, crap manager...and they always beat me on football manager)
Derby (Player snatchers  :P )
Liverpool (moaning t**ts)
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: DonnyNoel on May 24, 2010, 08:16:28 pm
Likes:
Hibs (dad used to live in Leith)
Netherlands (met some Dutch lads on a holiday once and they were sound lads and I think both nations have a respect for the way each other play the game)
AC Milan (not so much these days but moreso for the dominance of the late 80's/early 90's)
FC Zwolle (pure Football Manager!)

Dislikes
All the other S Yorks teams except Sheff Utd who for some reason I am ambivelent towards
Leeds
Any team I am watching as a neutral who are dull and defensive!
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: Nudga on May 24, 2010, 09:33:46 pm
Likes;

Liverpool, I loved the era of Beardsley, Barnes, Aldridge and then Fowler.

York City;Love the city so have a soft spot for the team.

Sheff UTD: Our club seems to have a good relationship with them and the fans of theirs that I know never took the piss.

Blackpool; as of saturday, a shining light for teams like us.

Dis likes/hates

Rotherham; disgusting shit box of a town, they were always better than us when i was a young un. Scum fans.

Scunny; see above

Chesterfield; set o Kitsons for fans, remember them tearing up the Frenchgate in the early nineties.

Grimsby; see RUFC and Scunny

Sheff Wed; arrogant, deluded, idiot fans who are stuck in the nineties.

Man UTD; not sure why, I just do.

Barnsley; had a bit of a doo coming out of away end a couple of years back, chav fans.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: Thinwhiteduke on May 24, 2010, 11:31:31 pm
LIKES

West Ham - God knows why...just seem to have a bit of a soft spot for them.

Liverpool - I started noticing football late 70' s / early 80's...go figure.

AC Milan - my Italian grandfathers Club of choice.

Ajax - my Dutch grandfathers Club of choice.

Rangers - because I despise Celtic.

Brighton - because they were in the proverbial shit the same time we were.

DISLIKES

Man Utd - whinging Scot Manager, wield far too much power in the game.

Tottenham - God knows why, might be because they have a cock as a logo.

MK Dons - needs no explanation really does it??

Celtic - because I like Rangers.

Scunthorpe - the most boring, depressing uk based football club.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: DonnyEl on May 24, 2010, 11:43:32 pm
Like
Liverpool-fantastic suporters, passionate, the clubs essentially one big family, i only wish we could emulate a kop like atmosphere
Barcelona-i'm just in owr of them. great players, stadium, fans and football

Dislike
Man Utd/Chelsea-win most things, always them going for the title, and don't play attractive football
Leeds-just because really, knuckle dragging scumbags
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: Al4475 on May 24, 2010, 11:43:53 pm
LIKES: Man City - best mate.
           Hibs - bloke I mate in Australia was a huge fan.
           Hamilton Academicals - Panini 85 sticker book, red and white hoops, looked a good
           illustration - bizarre!
           Holland - whole host of class players over the years.

DISLIKES: Leeds (nuff said)
               Liverpool (no apparent reason)
               SKitsony, Rotherham - true local rivals! Simples!
               Chester (see Liverpool)
               Chelsea (proper glory fans)
               Argies/Krauts - no real reason, purely following the crowd I suppose.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 24, 2010, 11:46:42 pm
oslorovers wrote:
Quote
cska moscow....moscow left a lasting impression on us when i was out there for a CL group game against cska moscow



f**king hell. Nobdi telled me we were playing in the Champions League.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: sham69 on May 25, 2010, 06:51:28 am
Likes - Barcelona, Rangers, Motherwell, Berwick Rangers, Atalanta, Wednesday.

Dislikes - Real Madrid, Celtic, Sheff Utd, Man Utd
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: RobTheRover on May 25, 2010, 07:50:00 am
Likes - West Ham, Sunderland, Sampdoria, St Etienne (Sarah Cracknell was lovely!)

Dislikes - Any club that steals Doncasterian children from the Rovers
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: Wellington Vaults on May 25, 2010, 08:15:02 am
RobTheRover wrote:
Quote
Likes - West Ham, Sunderland, Sampdoria, St Etienne (Sarah Cracknell was lovely!)
Dislikes - Any club that steals Doncasterian children from the Rovers


Only Love Can Break Your Heart RTR!!....a man after my own heart.  Once went to see St Etienne (the band) and was mesmorised by the lovely Sarah.  In fact the rest of the line-up could have had bags over their heads and I don't think I would have noticed.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: philsky on May 25, 2010, 08:21:42 am
Likes - none especially, St Albans City now - location, cheap entry, up and at them style, cheap bovril

Dislikes - Leeds. Significant number of fans intimidated my family after the Play Off Final - wasnt able to enjoy victory until off the tube. I will never forgive them.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: bellevuebhoy on May 25, 2010, 09:31:36 am
mine likes celtic always have, gone to a few away european games with em
           st pats athletic lived in dublin for a year and they we re my local club and eddie gormley was playing for em
          napoli lived in naples around 90/91 what a great side including maradonna who was bigger than god over there, fans were crazy
           barcalona love everything about the club,great football,owned by the people,no shirt sponsorship (well unicef) and a great stadium
         west ham spent  a great night down a boozer in bethanel green,where some of the locals who d asked who i supported (and no doubt if i d said leeds i would have got battered) but cos i was donny i did nt have to pay for a drink/smoke all night.
          qpr used to go and see them a lot when i lived in london in late eighties but always stood in the away end,good team though seaman,paul parker,les ferdinand and probably the best trevor francis
         burnley always had a soft spot as they used to bring loads to belle vue in the old days,also worked around lancashire for a while and virtually everyone i met around burnley was a burnley fan,despite manure playing up the road, the same can be said in bolton

dislikes/hates rangers as a celtic fan this is a must
               chelsea see above
               real madrid franco s club
               man u cos lots of reasons one being visiting a temple in the middle of no where in indonesia miles from civilization and being blown away by it all,and i walk out and little lad struts by me with a beckham man u shirt on
               sheff wendies ,like all yorkshire clubs bar them,don t know why
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: PACMAN on May 25, 2010, 11:00:21 am
LIKES:

Gillingham - Spent a few years down there in the forces, got a bit of a soft spot for them.

Hannover 96 - As above.

Brighton - I was lucky enough to be at the last game at the Goldstone Ground, terrific memories, great fans!!

Dagenham - Their fans acted with great dignity after the Conference Play Off Final defeat, nice to see them prospering now.

Bristol Rovers - For a great day in Cardiff with no trouble.

Arsenal - Love watching Wengers teams play it the way it should be!!

Any Yorkshire team - until they play us, then the gloves are off!!

DISLIKES:

Leyton Orient - Got a shoeing on the way back from a Rovers match as a kid down in London, still bitter nearly 25 years on.

Chelsea & Man City - Ruining football for the little clubs.

Millwall - For the minority of Idiots!!
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: Hounslowrover on May 25, 2010, 11:42:09 am
Likes:
Brentford - local taem, used to watch when at college
Cowdenbeath and Dunfirmline - mum's relations lived in Fife and used to visit, so always a soft spot
Swindon - mate at college, remember the Anglo-Italian cup, used to watch them
Nantes - have a house in the Vendee and get to watch when here (usually August, so they have to substitute for Rovers)
Hannover 96 - have a German mate who supports them, he even sent me a tape of their cup win many years ago against Werder Bremen (I think) - I watched it through in German - it was 0-0 and settled on penalties!!
Soft spot for ..... Scunthorpe, had an uncle who took me a few times to the Old Show Ground when they were in old second division.

Dislikes - none really, though didn't like Chester for a long time, and reading this forum I suppose I should dilike some Yorkshire clubs, but only when we play them.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: edwingray on May 25, 2010, 11:54:15 am
Likes

Donny (home-town club)

Harrogate T (started playing them on FM and it stuck)

Eintracht Frankfurt (first team I followed when I moved to Germany)

Quite like

York C, Oldham A, West Ham, Crewe, Blackpool, Arsenal

Dislike

Chelsea, Man City (nouveau rich clubs)

Hertha BSC and Bayern Munich (the fans)

The German and Turkish national teams (the teams)

Sheff W, Millwall, Cardiff (just dislike everything they stand for).
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: Pintolager on May 25, 2010, 11:57:31 am
Likes

Sheff United - my mum originates from Sheffield and I used to go to Bramall Lane when Rovers wren't playing and developed a soft spot for them.

Portsmouth - friendly fans who know how to create an atmosphere.

Bristol Rovers - great day down in Cardiff and those fans were no trouble at all.

Carlisle - decent fans who wished us all the best in our promotion bid from L1.

Dislikes

Scunny, Mansfield, Hartlepool and Port Vale - all have a minority of fans who made my visits there an uncomfortable experience - oh and the Notts Police were a bunch of arseholes too when in Mansfield.

Man U - Alex Ferguson basically, possibly the biggest arse in football.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: Highland Rover on May 25, 2010, 01:18:55 pm
Likes : Aldershot , first team I watched and for their comeback into the Football League

        Hertha BSC.....first date with the missus ( just shows romance isn't dead !! )

        AS Roma .......great atmosphere at their games


Dislikes : Lincoln City  , for no real reason

           MK Dons..........franchise
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: irishcontingent on May 25, 2010, 01:31:10 pm
Dont dislike any team, they all have their pro's and cons. Obviously favour DRFC, but to me it matters not who a team are, if they entertain in any way, i like em.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: donnybez on May 25, 2010, 05:47:03 pm
Like
York City - Local side, shame they did'nt return to Football League this season
Crewe Alexandra - 2nd team i ever saw, first was DRFC obv. Reletives also support them so theres always been a interesting feel to matches against them....Unless its a LDV 8-0 defeat.
FC Barcelona - Seen them play to celebrate my 18th. No better team in the world other then Rovers
FC Oulu - Family in that area, plus the lesser known but much better Oulu side B)


Dislike
Leeds United - Is there really any point in listing the millions of reasons? The over-the-top-ignorant and arrogant masses would be a start....
Manchester United - Read above
Sheffield Wednesday/Barnsley/Sheffield United - Local rivals
Scunthorpe United - My first derby game i saw in the FA Cup...their fans, team, club in general have lead me to hate them
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: Dutch Uncle on May 25, 2010, 08:08:12 pm
Came to this traditional (but welcome) out of season thread late so some duplicates but here goes:

Like:

Swansea (born there, my second team)

Brighton - the heart of football day

Dagenham & Redbridge (gallant fans at Stoke - there but for the grace of Sir Francis....)

Carlisle (great fans on last day of 2003-4 when they were relegated to the conference but only wanted to congratulate us on our championship)

Southend (how about that for support in the play-off semi)

Forest Green Rovers (also had a soft spot for them - if they do get a reprieve they will be amazingly the longest serving club in the conference prem - amazing for such a small community)

MVV Maastricht (great town)

Bournemouth for the same reasons as everyone else


Dislikes

MK Dons - identity thieves

Coventry (for their disgraceful handling of the Robert Betts affair when we were at our lowest ebb)

Boston (cheats never prosper)

Leeds (8p in the pound to St John's ambulance)

Derby (for pinching Greeny and Gareth R)
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: jonrover on May 25, 2010, 10:39:36 pm
Likes

Portsmouth - Lived down there for a while and got into them through the lads at work.
Dundee United - All the lads at school had a Scottish team, and they were mine. Why I have no idea!


Dislikes

Southampton - Due to the Pompey connection
Leeds - Because they are cretins, on more specifically their fans are.
Sheff Weds - Because they think they are a massive club who have an automatic right to be in the Premier League. And their fans are cretins too!
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: BobG on May 25, 2010, 11:05:04 pm
I've resisted this thread for ages now. But I can't any longer.... So,

Likes:

Blades - I love Bramall Lane (well, I did just after they built that stand across the old cricket pitch. The most beautiful stand in football I still think. And I used to go see 'em when Tony Currie and Woodward were playing. They were just shit hot those two.

Brighton: great supporters, great club, great inspiration. Still got loads of Seagull friends even after all these years.

Stranraer - a bizarre holiday connection from my youth

MVV Maastricht - like Dutch Uncle says....

Coventry City - odd one now, but up until the Betts affair I would have put them as my second favourite club. Watched 'em for 3 full seasons when I was a student. Willie Carr, Tommy Hutchison, Denis Mortimer, Brian Alderson... A good side who were never ever going to win anything at all. Fun to watch. But Betts almost ruined that.

Queens Park Rangers: watched them, again as a student, the season after they so damn nearly won the first division title. Best midfield I ever saw: Stan Bowles, Gerry Francis and Don Masson. Just sublimely good. And they had Frank McLintock, David Webb, Davie Clement and Ian Gillard as well as Phil Parkes in goal too! Helluva side. (I must add, by the way, that my old Dad always used to say that the best midfield he ever saw was the Everton one of Harvey, Kendall and Alan Ball. Can't see it myself :)).

And finally, again like Dutch Uncle, Forest Green Rovers. Lovely little club and the closest side to where I live so I go watch 'em from time to time.

Dislikes

I don't actively dislike anyone to be honest. But I'm not a fan of:

Millwall - the most terrifying experience of my young life when I turned up there in 1978 for an FA Cup quarter final against League leading Ipswich Town. I have never seen anything like what I saw that day. Truly awful. Never been back and I never will.

Grimsby Town - for similar reasons to Millwall only this time it was their behaviour at BV that year they won Div 4 under Laurie McMenemy with old Matt Tees banging 'em in like there was no tomorrow.

Chelsea: thugs as supporters in the 70's, thugs on the pitch despite the likes of Peter Osgood and now thugs in the way they are contributing to the death of the sport as I know it.

Lincoln City - an unfair choice really but that was the place where I saw Kim Book barged over the goal line having caught the ball cleanly and the ref award Lincoln a goal, and, worse, that was the place where some execrable referee sent off two of our lads in the first half for no reason at all. As I've said on here before, my Dad, a large and usually placid bloke, was so incensed by that particular referee that at half time he started to clamber over the pitch side wall to 'excahnge some words' with the fool. As he was a JP at the time, that simply would not have done! So, despite my ire, he had to be held down. Not an easy task as those of you who knew him will testify. He ended up marching off to see the Lincoln club secretary to dmeand his money back on the basis that he'd paid to watch 11 players take on another 11. Not 12 play 9. As the secretary refused to hand over the cash, I've disliked them ever since. :)

Cheers

BobG
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: Ryan B on May 26, 2010, 02:47:19 pm
LIKE:

celtic - family
waterford utd - family
southend - playoff semi's (a soft spot at least)
barcelona - couple of visits / great players
liverpool - fascinated with fowler's finishing skills

DISLIKE:

rangers - family
yorkshire teams (minus DRFC) - rivalry (inc hull & Grimsby)
man utd - so many friends who never have or will see them play
n. forest - scabs
mk dons - no right to be in the football league
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: DMnumber4 on May 26, 2010, 03:02:07 pm
Likes:
DRFC
Fulham
Huddersfield
Accrington Stanley
Bayern Munich


Dislikes:
Every other yorkshire team including York
Scunny
Grimsby
Lincoln
Mansfield
Swansea
MK franchise

About it really. Don't have any particular like/dislike for any of the top 4, they're on a different planet and so are their fans.
Title: Re:list teams u like/dislike and reasons
Post by: WSBBA_Ben on May 26, 2010, 04:11:45 pm
Likes:
Doncaster Rovers - hometown club, supported as a boy

East Stirlingshire FC - Loved the book ('Pointless'), ordered shirt, saw them at Retford in the pre-season, my second team

Accrington Stanley - awesome support, bouncebackability

York City - our lasses parents have a caravan out there, good club

Forest Green Rovers - always welcome down there, lovely people, great little social club at 'The Lawn'


Dislikes:

Leeds - scum, fans show us no respect, think they have a right to be in the top division because of their gates

Wednesday & United - see Leeds

Scunthorpe - horrible fans, terrible ground, (though I would take Adkins on if SO'D gets the Madrid job)

Rotherham - as the song goes....\"we hate Rotherham\"

Manchester United - saturated football in the 90's, everyone at school suddenly supported them for success, horrible 90th minutes goals, Ronaldo, the Neville brothers, \"Glory Man United\" song...they are a franchise, not a football club

Falkirk - Because the Shire hate them