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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on June 28, 2010, 07:07:43 pm
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Sharp snubs Clarets (http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/LATEST-Sharps-snubs-Clarets.6388325.jp)
I might be clutching at straws but the key words in that piece are he has informed Blackwell he wants to stay in South Yorkshire
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HMmmmmmmm!Maybe,Just maybe it's true he wants to sign for us and if Blunts don't want to accept our bid he will tell them then that he will see his last year of his contract out with them,hence putting some strong pressure on them accepting our Bid.If there was a smilie for crossed fingers then I would have posted it here. :)
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Is now the time for JR to make his move?
(Fingers crossed emoticon)
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Sounds to me like he wants to stay at United unfortunately!
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SOD wrote:
Sounds to me like he wants to stay at United unfortunately!
But the Blades want the money to sign Nosworthy for £500k apparently
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If he could be there after Blackwell leaves then I think that would be Billy's first choice but If not then I think we will be his second choice.One option that has been forgotten so far that is not totally out of the question is another season long loan?Although It would be better for us to sign him permanently,it would be a better option for Billy giving him the chance to go back if Blackwell gets the sack during this coming season.Only problem there is Sheff Utd would not like that has they would get nothing for him at the end of the season.
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This is step one of Sharp coming back.
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He may want to stay at Bramall Lane but it is clear that Sheff Utd don't want him. JR needs to get on the blower ASAP to Kevin McCabe with an improved bid. There is a good chance we could sign him.
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Filo wrote:
Sharp snubs Clarets (http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/LATEST-Sharps-snubs-Clarets.6388325.jp)
I might be clutching at straws but the key words in that piece are he has inform
ed Blackwell he wants to stay in South Yorkshire
billy wants to stay in south Yorkshire that's the key words, billy's coming home hes coming home :P after watching rooney over 4 games who would rather have sharp in our team rather than rooney.....
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redbrez wrote:
Filo wrote:
Sharp snubs Clarets (http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/LATEST-Sharps-snubs-Clarets.6388325.jp)
I might be clutching at straws but the key words in that piece are he has inform
ed Blackwell he wants to stay in South Yorkshire
billy wants to stay in south Yorkshire that's the key words, billy's coming home hes coming home :P after watching rooney over 4 games who would rather have sharp in our team rather than rooney.....
Me for one fella, hopefully this saga is coming to it's end one way or another. :)
I hope there won't be tears at bedtime on here if we fail to bring our lad home.
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hoolahoop wrote:
redbrez wrote:
Filo wrote:
Sharp snubs Clarets (http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/LATEST-Sharps-snubs-Clarets.6388325.jp)
I might be clutching at straws but the key words in that piece are he has inform
ed Blackwell he wants to stay in South Yorkshire
billy wants to stay in south Yorkshire that's the key words, billy's coming home hes coming home :P after watching rooney over 4 games who would rather have sharp in our team rather than rooney.....
Me for one fella, hopefully this saga is coming to it's end one way or another. :)
I hope there won't be tears at bedtime on here if we fail to bring our lad home.
Me too,Billy's attitude is always exellent.Same cannot be said of several England players.
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RoversAlias wrote:
He may want to stay at Bramall Lane but it is clear that Sheff Utd don't want him. JR needs to get on the blower ASAP to Kevin McCabe with an improved bid. There is a good chance we could sign him.
Beep Beep
Operator: Hello how can I help you?
JR: I`d like to make a reverse charge call to Mr Kevin Mcabe please
Mcabe: Hello Kevin Mcabe speaking
JR: Kev mi old muker, John Ryan here
Mcabe:f**king hell John, what ya playing at reversing charges, we`re skint as well ya know!
JR: well Kevin baby thats where we can help you out, you see, remember when you screwed us over and made a mint on Brian Deane, well it`s payback time, you see Billy does n`t want to ply for that ex Wednesday t**t Laws does he
Mcabe: Erm.... no i don`t think he does
JR: ...and you are desperate to get that nosworthy fella in ...yeah....
Mcabe: Go on then John I`ll let you have him cut price on one condition.......you pay for this call right, we`re askint ya know!
JR: £500k! and i`ll go halfs on the phone call!
Mcabe Done! but if anyone asks you paid £1M ok!
JR: Okey Dokey Kev, tell Billy we`ll see him in the morning, see ya!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Filo wrote:
RoversAlias wrote:
He may want to stay at Bramall Lane but it is clear that Sheff Utd don't want him. JR needs to get on the blower ASAP to Kevin McCabe with an improved bid. There is a good chance we could sign him.
Beep Beep
Operator: Hello how can I help you?
JR: I`d like to make a reverse charge call to Mr Kevin Mcabe please
Mcabe: Hello Kevin Mcabe speaking
JR: Kev mi old muker, John Ryan here
Mcabe:fcuking hell John, what ya playing at reversing charges, we`re skint as well ya know!
JR: well Kevin baby thats where we can help you out, you see, remember when you screwed us over and made a mint on Brian Deane, well it`s payback time, you see Billy does n`t want to ply for that ex Wednesday t**t Laws does he
Mcabe: Erm.... no i don`t think he does
JR: ...and you are desperate to get that nosworthy fella in ...yeah....
Mcabe: Go on then John I`ll let you have him cut price on one condition.......you pay for this call right, we`re askint ya know!
JR: £500k! and i`ll go halfs on the phone call!
Mcabe Done! but if anyone asks you paid £1M ok!
JR: Okey Dokey Kev, tell Billy we`ll see him in the morning, see ya!
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as i have been saying for sometime 'sharp does not want to play for burnley'
if true what the star is reporting about sharp wanting to stay
in south yorks that leaves a possible 5 clubs on that list
sheff weds....two hopes bob hope and no hope
rotherham.....as above
barnsley......outsiders dark horses in betting
that leaves donny rovers and sheff utd
so if you was billy and you could hand pick your terms
knowing how much he loves sheff utd how would you play your cards.
a season long loan would fit that bill for billy,then if blackwell is sacked the door opens a tad back at sheff utd.
but i cant see sheff utd having any of that as they need cash on hip to better their squad it seems
which comes back to drfc who have put a offical bid on the table
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Yes Filo, I heard this too, a couple of days ago. I think Billy will return in a triangle of fait that needed other players to commit to the club. I suspect another loan, to enable Billy to become a free agent in the Summer of 2011. If so then Sean may potentially have funds to bolster other departments.
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Why would Sheff Utd turn down a bid of £600,000 - £1m only to allow him out on loan for a season with a FREE transfer following at the end of this season?
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b372/BuffyTheFundieSlayer/Pics/TGA/facepalm.jpg)
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RoversAlias wrote:
He may want to stay at Bramall Lane but it is clear that Sheff Utd don't want him. JR needs to get on the blower ASAP to Kevin McCabe with an improved bid. There is a good chance we could sign him.
The offer we've made for Billy is more than fair. Its Utd playing at silly buggers. They know how devastating Billy can be in our side, and they know that had SOD been any less of a gentleman that they would have lost home and away against us.
JR, keep your phone turned off, mate.
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I may be being optimistic, but this may as well be a huge come and get me statement from Billy Sharp!
In 2 and a half years Billy has hardly played under Blackwell and there is no sign of this changing. Unless Blackwell seriously thinks he can fit Billy into his system, he has two options…sell to Donny for (lets say) £600-800k now, or let Billy go for free in the summer.
Billy knows that we can't afford what Sheff Utd are asking, by saying he wants to stay in south yorks, he is forcing Sheff Utd to look at the only bid that fits the 'South Yorks' criteria, that is ours. If he truly was only interested in staying local he could have said he wants to stay in Yorkshire (hence leaving the possibility open for Leeds - an easy commute up the M1 from Sheffield). Instead it has to be 'South Yorkshire'. hmmm.
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I love how when The Star / The Sun write an article about Rovers/Rovers players and it is good... people take it as fact but when it's bad it's shrugged off as lazy journalism and terrible sourcing.
Just wonderful.
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Adam wrote:
I love how when The Star / The Sun write an article about Rovers/Rovers players and it is good... people take it as fact but when it's bad it's shrugged off as lazy journalism and terrible sourcing.
Just wonderful.
Sorry, but as a lifelong football fan, I will not have my right to be fickle questioned! ;)
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After thinking about this a bit more, we may be getting carried away with this south yorkshire comment. It says he wants to stay in south yorkshire and fight for his place. Different meanings i think.
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He can fight for his place with us if he likes. Steve Brooker is nearly fit again.
;-)
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RobTheRover wrote:
He can fight for his place with us if he likes. Steve Brooker is nearly fit again.
;-)
I heard that Brooker had snapped his bootlace and he`ll be out for another season :) :)
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RobTheRover wrote:
The offer we've made for Billy is more than fair. Its Utd playing at silly buggers. They know how devastating Billy can be in our side, and they know that had SOD been any less of a gentleman that they would have lost home and away against us.
JR, keep your phone turned off, mate.
I can't agree with that, Rob.
I'm not privvy to the negotiations but there is only so much posturing and waiting we can do. We desperately need a striker, we desperately need Billy Sharp, but if it's not going to happen we cannot be caught napping and left with nothing.
Last summer we were well into the season, had already dropped points from missing opportunities in the box, and were literally minutes away from missing out altogether before Sharp joined on loan. It is highly unlikely that Sheffield United will loan him out in such circumstances again, and we cannot be left with nothing.
We need to force the issue to try and get Billy back here, and if it absolutely cannot happen we need to know that soon.
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Filo wrote:
RobTheRover wrote:
He can fight for his place with us if he likes. Steve Brooker is nearly fit again.
;-)
I heard that Brooker had snapped his bootlace and he`ll be out for another season :) :)
I saw the interview with the bootlace on SkySports News. The reporter asked if the lace was at liberty to tell whether now Brooker was out was it certain that Billy Sharp was coming to the club, but the lace just said, \"No, I'm a frayed knot\".
Filo! Get me the engine running, kid!
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Not trying to put a dampener on here, but aren't Barnsley (newly refurbished at the back with Mr. Shackell) also in South Yorkshire? Allegedly interested? And able to pay better wages? I hope he signs for the good of our club as he would be an undoubtedly huge asset - but let's all wait till whichever way it goes is confirmed eh? Am positive we have a good contingency plan should we miss out on him!
Sorry - glass half-full/half-empty and all that!
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Jonathan wrote:
RobTheRover wrote:
The offer we've made for Billy is more than fair. Its Utd playing at silly buggers. They know how devastating Billy can be in our side, and they know that had SOD been any less of a gentleman that they would have lost home and away against us.
JR, keep your phone turned off, mate.
I can't agree with that, Rob.
I'm not privvy to the negotiations but there is only so much posturing and waiting we can do. We desperately need a striker, we desperately need Billy Sharp, but if it's not going to happen we cannot be caught napping and left with nothing.
Last summer we were well into the season, had already dropped points from missing opportunities in the box, and were literally minutes away from missing out altogether before Sharp joined on loan. It is highly unlikely that Sheffield United will loan him out in such circumstances again, and we cannot be left with nothing.
We need to force the issue to try and get Billy back here, and if it absolutely cannot happen we need to know that soon.
The reason I said that, Jon, is that (as stated) we have made a very good offer for Sharp, possibly more than those of us on here of a reasonably sensible disposition would regard as an upper limit. As we know, Billy is a player who clearly is not going to get his chance at United. Blackwell doesnt rate him or he would have played him last season rather than loan him out to a Yorkshire rival, and Blackwell is going nowhere until McCabe sells the club. Billy staying at the blades is a huge gamble, both for Billy in that the new manager after Blackwell might not fancy him either, or for SUFC in that they will be forced to either offer him a new contract or lose him for nothing.
JR shouldnt be held over a barrel if that means commiting more funds to get Billy at the detriment of being able to afford the other pieces of the jigsaw we need to secure. Losing out on Kennedy and getting Friend on a free is now looking like a cracking bit of business if it means it freed up the funds so we can bring Sharp in.
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RobTheRover wrote:
Losing out on Kennedy and getting Friend on a free is now looking like a cracking bit of business if it means it freed up the funds so we can bring Sharp in.
Kennedy would have been a free singing.
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True.
Would he have commanded a higher wage?
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RobTheRover wrote:
The reason I said that, Jon, is that (as stated) we have made a very good offer for Sharp, possibly more than those of us on here of a reasonably sensible disposition would regard as an upper limit. As we know, Billy is a player who clearly is not going to get his chance at United. Blackwell doesnt rate him or he would have played him last season rather than loan him out to a Yorkshire rival, and Blackwell is going nowhere until McCabe sells the club. Billy staying at the blades is a huge gamble, both for Billy in that the new manager after Blackwell might not fancy him either, or for SUFC in that they will be forced to either offer him a new contract or lose him for nothing.
JR shouldnt be held over a barrel if that means commiting more funds to get Billy at the detriment of being able to afford the other pieces of the jigsaw we need to secure. Losing out on Kennedy and getting Friend on a free is now looking like a cracking bit of business if it means it freed up the funds so we can bring Sharp in.
I agree with that, my overriding point is that we can only wait for so long. JR knows our upper limits and if it ends up out of reach then we have know sooner rather than later so that we don't risk being caught short.
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RobTheRover wrote:
True.
Would he have commanded a higher wage?
An unproven league 2 player can command a higher wage than a premier league player,not convinced on that one(Leicester must be made of money,not).
I know George Friend never made a big impact at Wolves but he would still have been on a decent wage,and could still be on a fair whack at the Rovers.
P.S. Now that it looks like Pearson will be unveiled as the new Hull boss on Wednesday,i wonder if Tom Kennedy is having second thoughts.
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eastender wrote:
An unproven league 2 player can command a higher wage than a premier league player,not convinced on that one(Leicester must be made of money,not).
I got told exactly how much Kennedy was offered by Leicester and believe me, it's eye watering. I doubt Leicester have learnt anything from their brush with disaster.
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RobTheRover wrote:
eastender wrote:
An unproven league 2 player can command a higher wage than a premier league player,not convinced on that one(Leicester must be made of money,not).
I got told exactly how much Kennedy was offered by Leicester and believe me, it's eye watering. I doubt Leicester have learnt anything from their brush with disaster.
Sorry but how would anyone involved with Rovers know Kennedy's wages? The most anyone at the club will know is his wage demands which are not certain to be what he's actually on now. I also doubt Kennedy would make his earnings public knowledge.
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Who said it came from the Rovers?
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Kennedy might share the same agent with other Rovers Players!
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1. I agree we need to know yes or no and move on, or find other fish to fry. We need players here for pre-season etc etc, although in Billy's case this is less apparent.
2. JR does right holding firm. It's clear he is/has done something re Sharp, and then done further things to obtain his services. We should not be held to ransom by club, player, agents. We have a good chance of getting Billy and many positive factors are pointing towards DRFC and the fact that he may even cost less to us than what other clubs may pay. The longer this go's on, the more likely our rivals for his signature will look elsewhere and thus no demand = less cost. It would be nice if the demand vanished.
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mushRTID wrote:
After thinking about this a bit more, we may be getting carried away with this south yorkshire comment. It says he wants to stay in south yorkshire and fight for his place. Different meanings i think.
Not only that \"But Sharp is understood to have informed United manager Kevin Blackwell that he wants to stay in South Yorkshire and force his way into the club's starting eleven\".
Irrespective of BS motive in allegedly saying that ( forcing hand or not ), it doesnt bode well for DRFC.
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If it was true, Irish. I think you're reading between the lines a little too much. Its all a game, as we should really know by now. Billy may be saying that to appease Burnley, who have to be just a tad peaved that they've missed out on one of their targets. It certainly (to them, anyway) beats the hell out of beeing told he prefers to go to little ol' Donny! ;)
I think there's more to it than meets the eye, but, at the end of the day, its paper talk and that's about the end of it. I used to be told let's wait and see, so........
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Billy said that he wants to stay in s yorks why didn t he say he wants to stay at sheff utd,he also said he wants to fight for his place in the team well he s got to say something like that as he cant really say im not going to burnley to mess kb,s plans up to sign nosworthy.
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Alan, there may be a lot of truth in what you say, i suppose time will tell.
Am i alone in the thought that \"All eggs in one basket\" with Billy, may be folly.
Lets face it, at a transfer fee of something around 600,000 to 1,000,000 and wages of around 12,000 a week, its an awful lot of money to plough into a player who may suffer a major injury very early season ( of course he may not miss a game at all ).
To me, i prefer spreading the cost / risk on two players or even 3, ok, they may not have the \"Record\" of BS as goal scorers, but it makes more sense to me to do it that way.
However i concede that JR and his men know better than i, and must have weighed it all up.
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wabtec wrote:
Billy said that he wants to stay in s yorks why didn t he say he wants to stay at sheff utd,he also said he wants to fight for his place in the team well he s got to say something like that as he cant really say im not going to burnley to mess kb,s plans up to sign nosworthy.
He never actually said anything though did he? Pure speculation on the behalf of the paper (who act as a mouthtalk for Sheffield clubs anyway). All part of a game this, I'm sure.
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Personally, I feel we should pull out all the stops for Billy. I feel he is that important to the way we play. For me, throwing somebodies goal scoring prowess into the mix is all well and good, but that does not necessarily make the team perform consistently to a system that is in place or to a required team standard.
You can liken it to the England set up and our current national plight. It's all very well our players being very good at X, but found wanting with Y and Z, yet when they come against players who are all merely just good at X,Y and Z, then they are out of their depth.
Billy is fortunately a good striker/finisher, but he also has A, B, C, D and so on and so forth. I also feel it's the system that suits his game, christ only knows what we would be like if we unleashed Billy and a fit Brooker on this league.
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Billy and Brooker may not work the same, though, Cussie. Billy works because SOD plays him up there on his jack, with everyone else playing off him. It gaurantees Billy a starting place every week - and that could prove to be the biggest card we have to play!
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Time to move on now.
Sheffield United
BILLY Sharp is staying at Sheffield United after rejecting the opportunity to join Burnley.
The striker, who scored 15 goals during a prolific spell on loan at Doncaster Rovers earlier this year, seemed destined to leave Bramall Lane when it emerged the Lancashire club were prepared to pay more than £1m to secure his services.
But, having spent the weekend mulling over his future, The Star can reveal that Sharp informed United last night that he wants to have \"one more shot\" at forcing himself into manager Kevin Blackwell's starting eleven.
Despite receiving what was described as a \"very lucrative offer\" from Brian Laws' side, sources close to the player have revealed he still harbours ambitions to steer the club he supports into the Premier League.
\"Everyone knows what Sheffield United means to Billy,\" one said. \"He wants to give it one more go, have one more shot at staying there.
\"Burnley's proposal was worth a lot of money but Billy, after thinking things through, just had a gut feeling that he wanted to try and see things through here. He didn't want to go and then regret it later because he's not only a United player. He's a fan too.\"
As well as dealing a major blow to Burnley's plans in the transfer market, Sharp's decision will come as a major disappointment to both Rovers and Leeds who had also been monitoring his situation closely.
Indeed, this newspaper understands that Laws, Blackwell's counterpart at Turf Moor, expected to confirm his capture later this week after having an undisclosed bid accepted by United's board of directors.
Sharp, who returned to South Yorkshire from Scunthorpe in 2007, has 12 months remaining on his present contract.
Meanwhile, United have ruled out the possibility of signing Aberdeen defender Charlie Mulgrew. The former Celtic full-back is now expected to head back to Parkhead after turning down a new deal at Pittodrie.
\"We couldn't agree terms, so we move on,\" said Blackwell
http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/Bill-Sharp-Sheffield-United-is.6388750.jp
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Reading that, it sounds like we never even appraoched Sheff Utd. All it said is that we were monitoring the situation.
I hope we act fast now and we really do have a backup plan.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/8771687.stm
Nothing we don't know already, and nothing from Blackwell that suggests Sharp will get any more pitch time than he did prior to the loan spell.
I think we all conceed that we cannot compete with Sheffield United, and first team action there will always be Billy's number one choice. Looks like he might be back there, then on the move as a free agent when he doesn't get any joy.
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We need to seek permission to talk to him, it sounds like Burnley got to talk to him, Sheffield United want rid or they would n`t have granted Burnley permission to speak to him, so really the ball is in our court and I would hope we are trying to gain permission as I type this
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Filo wrote:
We need to seek permission to talk to him, it sounds like Burnley got to talk to him, Sheffield United want rid or they would n`t have granted Burnley permission to speak to him, so really the ball is in our court and I would hope we are trying to gain permission as I type this
Hope you're right but i think it's game over and we should now move on.
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Just want to ask have any of the clubs involved said it is game over? Have SUFC came out and said we will not accept any more bids for Sharp, he is not for sale? Have DRFC said we are no longer pursuing Sharp as he is no longer for sale?
:huh:
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bobjimwilly wrote:
Just want to ask have any of the clubs involved said it is game over? Have SUFC came out and said we will not accept any more bids for Sharp, he is not for sale? Have DRFC said we are no longer pursuing Sharp as he is no longer for sale?
:huh:
A player under contract can only be for sale if he wants to be sold, think there's more to this than meets the eye.
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DonnyRTID wrote:
bobjimwilly wrote:
Just want to ask have any of the clubs involved said it is game over? Have SUFC came out and said we will not accept any more bids for Sharp, he is not for sale? Have DRFC said we are no longer pursuing Sharp as he is no longer for sale?
:huh:
A player under contract can only be for sale if he wants to be sold, think there's more to this than meets the eye.
He was placed on the transfer list over a year ago
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So, BBC Reckon :- \"Sharp is currently under contract at Bramall Lane for another year, but would be allowed to sign for a new club for free from January\".
He is free to TALK in january, not to sign for A.N.Other club. Jeez !!! ( although i suppose technically SU could release him at that point).
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Rumour is he's waitng to see where SO'D is before signing for DRFC, ie at Rovers or maybe elsewhere.... Leicester perhaps!!!!!!! :( :huh:
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One possible option is that he gives it another go and finds that Blackwell still doesn't want (or know how) to use him. The problem is, can we wait for that to happen?
To gamble on that would run a serious risk of us ending up with nothing, and at the very minimum it would see us start the season weaker than last season.
We need to determine how accurate this latest news is and make a big decision on how we are to proceed from here.
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Following on from the post about the rovers not even making contact with Billy.
I can confirm we have spoke personally with Billy, and JR is talking to him on a regular bases.
I personally don't think Billy will be at the blunts at the start of this session.
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Do remember folks that there are no quotes in The Star there...actually there is one from Blackwell, but it is related to Charlie Mulgrew, not Billy.
If we can persuade Billy to come, I think he will. Sheff U are willing to sell him, we are in a good position now. Especially if the way has cleared and the competition for him has dwindled.
Have faith in John Ryan and SOD, they must feel it is still possible to sign him.
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RoversAlias wrote:
Do remember folks that there are no quotes in The Star there...actually there is one from Blackwell, but it is related to Charlie Mulgrew, not Billy.
If we can persuade Billy to come, I think he will. Sheff U are willing to sell him, we are in a good position now. Especially if the way has cleared and the competition for him has dwindled.
Have faith in John Ryan and SOD, they must feel it is still possible to sign him.
KB seems happy with the decision, i still think there's more to this though.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_6237767,00.html
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DonnyRTID wrote:
RoversAlias wrote:
Do remember folks that there are no quotes in The Star there...actually there is one from Blackwell, but it is related to Charlie Mulgrew, not Billy.
If we can persuade Billy to come, I think he will. Sheff U are willing to sell him, we are in a good position now. Especially if the way has cleared and the competition for him has dwindled.
Have faith in John Ryan and SOD, they must feel it is still possible to sign him.
KB seems happy with the decision, i still think there's more to this though.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_6237767,00.html
To be fair, KB would say that regardless of his true feelings… from a business point of view, if he said anything suggesting he didn't want Billy at the lane, he would basically be telling JR to name his price - especially after BS said he wants to stay in south yorkshire.
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Let's hope Dingles don't start sniffing around
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Just as honourable as SOD has been with Billy, and JR doing his bit, I can't for 1 minute believe that Billy would not speak directly to us once he's made up his mind.
For all we know Plan B and C may already be in operation.
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Blades have been desperate to make the most possible out of the BS situation and have now been found out. It puts Rovers in the driving seat and makes sure that he is almost certain to be playing for Rovers I reckon. By the end of this week? I hope so.
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Don't believe all you read in the Sheffield Stir. How many times has the likes of Hosscack come out with some absolute b*llocks, just to fill column inches?
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RobTheRover wrote:
Don't believe all you read in the Sheffield Stir. How many times has the likes of Hosscack come out with some absolute b*llocks, just to fill column inches?
More times than I care to remember, Jeez it is a shite and highly unreliable rag, that frankly isn't fit to wipe your arse on.