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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: jucyberry on July 19, 2010, 12:03:52 pm
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I can remember many years ago when I was about eight or so, it was a wednesday evening, around midwinter time my dad coming in it must have been around the 7.30 mark because we were watching Star trek ( I'm very anal, most of my young memories are based around what was on the tv at the time..lol)
Anyway, he had been talking to one of the neighbours, when they saw a massively bright light hover over the field across the road from us, he said it was bright enough that you would have been able to find a sixpence in the field, it hovered over them for what seemed like a few minuets then shot off out over the Wash. U.F.O or some kind of flight training, we were even then surrounded by usaf and raf bases.......
My nan always said that when as a small child she was set to work in the workhouse sitting with the dying, she would know when their time of passing was near as she would see a black crow outside the window. she firmly believed in all things unworldly, tarrot cards, palmistry ect...
We have several 'haunted' spots in the village, my brother has seen a Roman centurian on the outskirts of the village, and my ex husband swears he saw the headless woman who is supposed to haunt the field where our middle school was built.
So, how about you? Have you or yours had any experience of the paranormal? what are your thoughts on the subject? is it something that can always be dismissed with rational scientific thought, or are there more things in heaven and earth than we might care to think of?
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I've witnessed a bright light from above on several occasions around Bentley. The South Yorks police helicopter uses that particular flight path regularly.
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Helicopters you can hear tho, Dad always swore that the light was silent. It was what struck him most of all...Just a light, no noise....wierd.
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I had a really strange dream, when I woke up the sheets were covered in ectoplasm.
Is that a paranormal activity?
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I once saw Neil Campbell score.
f**king well freaked me out big stylee, ah'll tell thi.
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No, because 'the paranormal' is bullshit.
And I include belief in God in the definition of paranormal, too.
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Glyn_Wigley wrote:
No, because 'the paranormal' is bullshit.
And I include belief in God in the definition of paranormal, too.
How do you explain the unexplained?
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MrFrost wrote:
Glyn_Wigley wrote:
No, because 'the paranormal' is bullshit.
And I include belief in God in the definition of paranormal, too.
How do you explain the unexplained?
The ancients believed that the sun was a fiery chariot driven across the sky by a God. That's how THEY explained the unexplained.
Just because you cannot explain something, it does not automatically become inexplicable.
We, as a society, as a species, are wonderfully adept at finding things out, and thereby pushing back the boundaries of ignorance and stupidity. THAT's how you go about explaining the unexplained. By getting more intelligent.
As Isaac Newton said, when asked how he came up with such breathtaking answers to such apparently impossible problems, \"I do it by pondering upon the problems for a great deal of time.\"
If only we all took a leaf out of his book.
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Bentley Bullet wrote:
I've witnessed a bright light from above on several occasions around Bentley. The South Yorks police helicopter uses that particular flight path regularly.
Yep...and waking both my kids up each and every time they fly over (usually about 6 or 8 passed with a bloody search light and low, and late - for maximum noise and disruption effect). :angry:
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BillyStubbsTears wrote:
As Isaac Newton said, when asked how he came up with such breathtaking answers to such apparently impossible problems, \"I do it by pondering upon the problems for a great deal of time.\"
If only we all took a leaf out of his book.
How long would I have to ponder the mechanics of time travel before I come up with a solution?
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MrFrost wrote:
Glyn_Wigley wrote:
No, because 'the paranormal' is bullshit.
And I include belief in God in the definition of paranormal, too.
How do you explain the unexplained?
I don't. I put it down as a gap in my knowledge. I just don't make up a bullshit explanation for it.
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jucyberry wrote:
We have several 'haunted' spots in the village, my brother has seen a Roman centurian on the outskirts of the village
Jucy. Given that you live a long way from civillization, mebbe the centurion just hadn't got the message that the Romans have left yet. Like them Japanese soldiers holed up on desert islands into the 1970s.
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BLIR wrote:
How long would I have to ponder the mechanics of time travel before I come up with a solution?
Dosen't matter, once you figure it out you could get the time back. B)
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BLIR wrote:
BillyStubbsTears wrote:
As Isaac Newton said, when asked how he came up with such breathtaking answers to such apparently impossible problems, \"I do it by pondering upon the problems for a great deal of time.\"
If only we all took a leaf out of his book.
How long would I have to ponder the mechanics of time travel before I come up with a solution?
Ah well, NOW you need to read \"The Pleasure of Finding Things Out\" by Richard Feynmann, in which he explains that the thing that separates great thinkers from ordinary ones is having a knack for guessing which problems will prove soluble within the current state of human knowledge. Can't help you there chuckie egg...
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nightporter wrote:
BLIR wrote:
How long would I have to ponder the mechanics of time travel before I come up with a solution?
Dosen't matter, once you figure it out you could get the time back. B)
And the award for Post of the Week...
Me, I reckon Matty Caldwell had figured out time travel or teleporting or summat like that. Every time somebody passed a ball down the left wing to the perfect spot for a winger to be, he was never there.
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An expert on \"Paranormal Phenomena\" held a seminar in a small village in rural Wales. After giving his talk, he decided to ask his audience about their experiences.
First of all he asked, \"Everyone who has ever seen a ghost, please stand up.\" Well, nearly the entire audience stood up.
Then asked, \"Everyone who has ever had a close encounter with a ghost, please remain standing.\" About 2 dozen people were still standing.
He then asked how many people had been in the same room as a ghost and 6 people stood up.
Finally he asked, \"Anyone who has ever had SEX with a ghost, please remain standing.\" Everyone sat down except an old farmer.
The expert asked the old farmer to come up to the stage which he did. \"Now,\" he said \"this is a real first for me. Would you like to tell me when you experienced sex with a ghost. The farmer went red faced and exclaimed- \"Oh, I'm very sorry. I'm rather hard of hearing and when you said GHOST I thought you said GOAT!\"
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Is a closed mind one that cannot see, or can that mind not see because it is closed?......a paradox wouldnt you say?
I personally think just because we cannot see something, it doesn't mean it doesn't exsist...
there are so many theories as to the nature of the paranormal, some believe a haunting in an imprint of a memory that attatches itself to the place it happened. People have heard war cries on ancient battle fields, is this a wisp of a memory, or mass hysteria by those who want to see....
The feeling of having been in a place you have never visited before, how many have experienced that?
Sometimes as a species we forget that hidden sense, evolution has told us to trust in the scientific answer, but there is so much more to us as an entity than just the rationale we can explain away in formulae.
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jucyberry wrote:
I'm very anal
Really? ;) :P :laugh:
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I once witnessed a flying saucer hurtling towards me from the air. It came that close that I began to turn and run. Next thing I knew a cup bounced off the back of my head......
Our lass tends to go off like that about every four weeks.
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Filo wrote:
jucyberry wrote:
I'm very anal
Really? ;) :P :laugh:
Cheeky..Filo my love you need the w**k thread for that sort of talk...pmsl... ;)
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jucyberry wrote:
I personally think just because we cannot see something, it doesn't mean it doesn't exsist...
I've got some magic beans for sale if you're interested.
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Cool, save me from a trip to the shops... i do need something for tea...:)
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And, think of it like this.... I have never seen you, or you I, does that mean neither of us exist? :)
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That's not belief in the paranormal, that's existentialism.
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People have an endless capacity to believe in things they want to believe in because they like the idea, no matter how bizarre it may seem. Conspiracies are very popular, men not landing on the moon, grassy knolls and all that stuff. Ghosts, big foot, Loch Ness Monsters, space aliens and religious belief seem to be similar phenomena to me.
People are also pretty good at denying things they don't like the idea of too. I'm constantly surprised at how many in the fishing industry refuse, point blank to believe the evidence that fish stocks worldwide are collapsing despite the clear mounting evidence. I hardly dare mention the global, socialist conspiracy of climate change...
Anyway to answer the question. I've never seen anything that could be described as paranormal. I don't think I ever saw Neil Campbell score even.
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I have spent most of my life experiencing things I cannot explain. I have at times forseen events that would happen to me and they have come true on many occasions. Never saw the rise of the Rovers though :ohmy:
One of the strangest events was whilst I was sleeping at my then girlfriends in Liverpool. In those days we were obliged to sleep in seperate rooms in respect of her parents. I awoke in the middle of the night after a nightmare and decided to get up and go downstairs. As I attempted to get out of bed I fell to the floor with an almighty thud, it was like my legs wouldn't work. I crawled over to the door and as I went to open it I awoke back in the bed. Phew! I must have been dreaming. I then decided to get up and go downstairs, yep you guessed it! THUD! Crawled over to the door, went to open it and awoke back in the bed. 3 times this happened to me and on the third attempt finally managed to open the door and walk downstairs. But the downstairs was at home in Donny and my brother was sat at the kitchen table. I explained to him that I was in Liverpool and not really in Donny. We both agreed that we were in the same dream and we would call each other the next day to confirm that we were both experiencing the same dream.
Sure enough the next morning the phone went and it was our kid.................................to be continued B)
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Rovers Return wrote:
I have spent most of my life experiencing things I cannot explain. I have at times forseen events that would happen to me and they have come true on many occasions. Never saw the rise of the Rovers though :ohmy:
One of the strangest events was whilst I was sleeping at my then girlfriends in Liverpool. In those days we were obliged to sleep in seperate rooms in respect of her parents. I awoke in the middle of the night after a nightmare and decided to get up and go downstairs. As I attempted to get out of bed I fell to the floor with an almighty thud, it was like my legs wouldn't work. I crawled over to the door and as I went to open it I awoke back in the bed. Phew! I must have been dreaming. I then decided to get up and go downstairs, yep you guessed it! THUD! Crawled over to the door, went to open it and awoke back in the bed. 3 times this happened to me and on the third attempt finally managed to open the door and walk downstairs. But the downstairs was at home in Donny and my brother was sat at the kitchen table. I explained to him that I was in Liverpool and not really in Donny. We both agreed that we were in the same dream and we would call each other the next day to confirm that we were both experiencing the same dream.
Sure enough the next morning the phone went and it was our kid.................................to be continued B)
Easily explained this one - some thieving scouse scally has robbed your common sense :laugh:
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BLIR wrote:
Rovers Return wrote:
I have spent most of my life experiencing things I cannot explain. I have at times forseen events that would happen to me and they have come true on many occasions. Never saw the rise of the Rovers though :ohmy:
One of the strangest events was whilst I was sleeping at my then girlfriends in Liverpool. In those days we were obliged to sleep in seperate rooms in respect of her parents. I awoke in the middle of the night after a nightmare and decided to get up and go downstairs. As I attempted to get out of bed I fell to the floor with an almighty thud, it was like my legs wouldn't work. I crawled over to the door and as I went to open it I awoke back in the bed. Phew! I must have been dreaming. I then decided to get up and go downstairs, yep you guessed it! THUD! Crawled over to the door, went to open it and awoke back in the bed. 3 times this happened to me and on the third attempt finally managed to open the door and walk downstairs. But the downstairs was at home in Donny and my brother was sat at the kitchen table. I explained to him that I was in Liverpool and not really in Donny. We both agreed that we were in the same dream and we would call each other the next day to confirm that we were both experiencing the same dream.
Sure enough the next morning the phone went and it was our kid.................................to be continued B)
Easily explained this one - some thieving scouse scally has robbed your common sense :laugh:
Or, he had his drink spiked by his brother, who then told him in his delerious state that he was in Liverpool at his birds house, when actually his bird was in Donny and his brother shagged her whilst he was unconcious and he was just enjoying a post shag fag in the kitchen :laugh:
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I've had two ghostly experiences in the last six weeks, both at work. The first happened when I was on nights, we'd got our work done early so I went for a kip in one of our portacabins. I made sure that i put a small metal bar between the door handle and the wall so if anyone tried to get in, they wouldn't be able to open it from the outside. I slept solid until my alarm went off, when I got up and went to the door, the metal bar wasn't in place but on top of the coat peg rack. There was only me inside that thing and no one could have got inside other than the door that I had locked.
Then last week I saw through a window in a door a black hooded figure walk past, only thing is, it went past to my right and all that is there is a solid wall.
Strange how these have happened when there is hardly anyone on the depot.
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The wife and me were in bed one night when the burglar alarm went off. We went downstairs and discovered that the alarm keypad was hanging off the wall. Strangely all the house was still locked and there had been no entry.
To this day it is still a puzzle as to what happened.
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Many years ago as a recruit into the RAF, each section of recruits took it in turn to do night guard at the training camp. Based in the guardroom we had to walk around the various buildings that were used during the daytime & make sure all the doors and windows were secure.
One place we had to go to was the old Airman's Mess which included the NAAFI bar. The building was the usual two storey type and was built in the 1920's. The training camp we were on was a former Bomber Command base in Lincolnshire. Somehow the place didn't feel 'right' when you went in there when it was deserted. Anyway, one night me and my oppo patrolled in there securing all doors and windows as we went and turning off the lights. We got upstairs and thought we could hear someone playing snooker in a room at the end of the corridor. We went in there and nobody was around, balls were left on the table along with a cue and a chalk block. After a little knock around between us, me and my mate put everything away, turned the light out and secured the room.
When we got outside we looked back at the building and saw two lights on upstairs. We were positive that we'd turned them all out but went back in anyway to turn them off. As we got into the upstairs corridor we were sure we heard the toilet in the Ladies being flushed. We were a bit more than wary but went in there anyway to see who was in there. Nobody was there. By this time my arse was giving it half-crown/sixpence time!! Anyway, as we came back into the corridor again we heard the snooker balls clicking together. We crept up to the room doors and took a sneaky peek through the crack in the door but could not see anyone in there. So we unlockd the doors and went in and saw that the snooker balls were again out on the table with a cue and the chalk block. Bloody weird or what!!
We again put the lights out, secured the room and left. Again, as we got outside we looked back and saw the light on again. Needless to say neither was keen to go back in. We legged it back to the guardroom and told the Orderly Sergeant what had happened.
He said that this often happened and it was known that the building in question was the old Officer's Mess during WW2. Many bomber crew didn't make it back to base and there was one particular navigator who was an very good amateur player in local snooker leagues before the War. He was always up practising when not out on a mission. His bomber never made it back from the big raid on Dresden. It was thought to be his spirit that was back to keep on the snooker practicing. On the point of the toilet, it turned out that the Ladies used to be the Gents before some rebuilding took place to repair some bomb damage on the base. There never was a Ladies but two Gents toilets.
Make of it what you may folks, but from that night onwards, I managed not to be the person to do the nightly check on that block!!
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was in me early teens so 20+ years ago and was with me mate
walking out of his house up the drive way.
did not hear anything but what seemed a load of windows with light lost of light beeming through them just appeared above and behind us in the night sky.
the shape of the windows gave us the impression it was like
the star ship enterprise off star trek.
these window of light just seem to hang there for a very short time then disappear as quick as they appeared.
once lights had gone i turned to my mate and asked 'did you see that' he said 'see what'
so to this day i cant make up if i did see something or not,back then i was sure i saw what i saw but since my mate did not see owt it type of puts me in the middle of yes/no.
suppose i will be taking this one to my grave
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I once saw SOD make a rash and unconsidered decision.
Madness!
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I'm now being laughed at by my horrible daughter... Made the mistake of reading this again just before I remembered my work shirt is on the line, Now, I'm scared of the dark.. I don't mind admiting it, so asked her to go outside with me, my back garden is scary..... :(
Half way down the garden I hear a noise and she stands there pissing herself as I look ready to bolt back into the house.. Needless to say you will NEVER catch me watching a horror film...
I have a headache now.. :(:(
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When my Grandad was a young kid 90 or so years ago in the East End of London, the family lived in a big old house. Each interior door had a lock, and my Great Grandfather would lock all the doors as everyone went to bed. In the morning, the doors would all be unlocked and wide open.
After a few weeks of this, my great nana insisted that the house was exorcised. A local priest came and did it, and the doors stayed locked at night.
Some years later, during refurbishment works, the skeleton of a child was found buried under ground floor floorboards, wrapped in a blanket. My grandad tried to find out who the child was or the circumstances which led to the body being hidden, but could uncover no more info.
My Grandad told me this story when I was about 10 years old, after I scoffed at something paranormal on TV. He looked me square in the eyes and said, as seriously as anything, \"Dont make fun of what you dont understand.\". That scared the living shit out of me, before he told me about the house in London.
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At the point of orgasm I always straighten my feet/point them/stiffen them.
In adult male Public House discussions I have realised there are others that do this. I suspect there others on here too.
I've watched and tried to resist, but to no avail. I cannot explain this activity and often suspect it's paranormal.
Whilst having intercourse with the opposite sex, I'm often told by the female that they get an out of body experience. I suspect this might just happen to me though.
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CusworthRovers wrote:
At the point of orgasm I always straighten my feet/point them/stiffen them.
In adult male Public House discussions I have realised there are others that do this. I suspect there others on here too.
I've watched and tried to resist, but to no avail. I cannot explain this activity and often suspect it's paranormal.
Whilst having intercourse with the opposite sex, I'm often told by the female that they get an out of body experience. I suspect this might just happen to me though.
Thats not paranormal, it`s you just being uncomfortable having intercourse with the opposite sex. Stick to what you`re used to, the same sex ;) :laugh:
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Bentley Bullet wrote:
The wife and me were in bed one night when the burglar alarm went off. We went downstairs and discovered that the alarm keypad was hanging off the wall. Strangely all the house was still locked and there had been no entry.
To this day it is still a puzzle as to what happened.
You live in Bentley. Problem solved. :P
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We once had a ghost who frequented our house so we got the local priest in to exorcise it. After that everything was great for a couple of months, but then it returned.
Having my house re-possessed was the last straw, so we left, never to return.
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Love how this has divided opinion. I guess that it cannot truly be proven or deined.
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I think everyone's had what people are describing as a paranormal experience.
Be it unexplained noises/doors open/lights on etc. All could be explained by your gas board or water board. Things like when you're looking for something and you find it in a place you've already looked etc, that sort of thing is paranormal.
I've had paranormal feelings before, but nothing big. Most were at night when I'm tired so it might've just been my brain. I've seen nothing so far to convince me that there are ghosts. I'd love to though, I really would.
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Adam wrote:
I think everyone's had what people are describing as a paranormal experience.
Be it unexplained noises/doors open/lights on etc. All could be explained by your gas board or water board. Things like when you're looking for something and you find it in a place you've already looked etc, that sort of thing is paranormal.
I've had paranormal feelings before, but nothing big. Most were at night when I'm tired so it might've just been my brain. I've seen nothing so far to convince me that there are ghosts. I'd love to though, I really would.
Before I joined the RAF, I thought the same as you. See my earlier post.
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Hilarious, there's a ghost sat next to me right now.
Is there a ghost in the room with you?
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Yep,
There's a ghost in my house, the ghost of your memory, the ghost of the love that was took from me