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Title: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Dagenham Rover on September 01, 2014, 08:38:31 pm
£22,000  (yes twenty two Thousand)

http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/doncaster-pub-landed-with-record-22-000-fine-for-illegally-showing-sky-sports-1-6816608
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: DRFC17 on September 01, 2014, 08:41:27 pm
I liked to go and watch the late kick off after rovers. Guess I won't be doing that anymore.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Hag on September 02, 2014, 12:13:18 am
Why aren't they looking round such as Blackpool, lots of the pubs have signs outside on a Saturday afternoon saying which match they will be showing, supposedly totally illegal but nothing seems to ever be done.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: not on facebook on September 02, 2014, 12:18:58 am
stupid pillocks they should have got a Nordic satalite  system installed
at much much less the cost of sky sports

they could have shown  premieship games on a saturday at 15.00
along With a championship game at same time,along With any other
games sky or BT screen

in local pub on saturday we had Sheff weds v forest ,Burnley v man utd
then man city v stoke 15.00 KO followed by Everton v chelsea
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: rtid88 on September 02, 2014, 07:53:15 am
Skanky horrible chavy pub anyway!!!!
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Filo on September 02, 2014, 08:50:40 am
Sky's commercial subscription is a blatant rip off, it wouldn't come to this if they didn't charge so much, I wonder how many Spanish bars have been prosecuted under the same laws?
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Dare to dream! on September 02, 2014, 09:24:48 am
Sky's commercial subscription is a blatant rip off, it wouldn't come to this if they didn't charge so much, I wonder how many Spanish bars have been prosecuted under the same laws?

£23 DRFC vs Oldham or £25 a month for Everton v Chelsea + at least 15 more games + All the other sports Golf, Tennis, F1 Boxing etc. Hardly a rip off.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Filo on September 02, 2014, 09:29:58 am
Sky's commercial subscription is a blatant rip off, it wouldn't come to this if they didn't charge so much, I wonder how many Spanish bars have been prosecuted under the same laws?

£23 DRFC vs Oldham or £25 a month for Everton v Chelsea + at least 15 more games + All the other sports Golf, Tennis, F1 Boxing etc. Hardly a rip off.


Can you show me and the licensed vitulars association where they can obtain the commercial subscription to Sky for £25 a month?
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: bobjimwilly on September 02, 2014, 10:10:59 am
a quickly google and it seems for a small pub you can pay over £600 p/m  :blink:
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: LincsRover on September 02, 2014, 10:25:11 am
Sky's commercial subscription is a blatant rip off, it wouldn't come to this if they didn't charge so much, I wonder how many Spanish bars have been prosecuted under the same laws?

£23 DRFC vs Oldham or £25 a month for Everton v Chelsea + at least 15 more games + All the other sports Golf, Tennis, F1 Boxing etc. Hardly a rip off.

But I don't give a monkeys chuff about Everton v Chelsea or any of the other games - I'd rather pay to watch rovers live, yes even the sh*te that was served up to us on Saturday, and watch MOTD for nothing whilst waiting for the FLS to show 15 seconds of TLO Donny!

I hate that sky has made football totally about money and impossible for most teams to compete. We may never reach the so-called promise land of big money but I'll still be watching rovers so long as we have a team to support.

 :rtid:


Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: niteowler on September 02, 2014, 10:36:22 am
Well said Lincs Rover, I take it then that you are also no fan of the Murdoch Mafia !
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: mattco on September 02, 2014, 10:53:24 am
Sky have ruined football in this country.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: LincsRover on September 02, 2014, 10:55:43 am
I would sooner have my cream crackers crushed in a vice than support those crooks, the Sun is a comic and the the NOTW got what it deserved - and don't get me started on Sky!

 :boxing:
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: not on facebook on September 02, 2014, 11:55:21 am
The reason why sky Charge pubs so Much to screen live football is so
Obvious

The pubs dont show sky football as Its far too Much money.

So then more People will have to sit at home to watch football
And buy the sky package to do so
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: bobjimwilly on September 02, 2014, 04:11:29 pm
I think the opposite is true oslo actually. A lot of pubs will pay Sky whatever they want as it gets the punters in on match-day. The fact they can scale their charges according to how much the pub (potentially) brings in is what is ludicrous; their service is exactly the same yet they get away with charging more per month!
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Crowle Rover on September 02, 2014, 04:21:57 pm

And look at the name of the prosecutor!
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Hag on September 02, 2014, 04:58:34 pm
a quickly google and it seems for a small pub you can pay over £600 p/m  :blink:
Skellow Grange used to pay just over £1,000 a month, about 6 years ago. (it was bizarrely based on rate-able value).
When football on sky first started it paid for itself, through people coming out to watch it and spending behind the bar.
For the last 7/8 years not many at all go to a club to watch football.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: not on facebook on September 02, 2014, 05:59:32 pm
a quickly google and it seems for a small pub you can pay over £600 p/m  :blink:
Skellow Grange used to pay just over £1,000 a month, about 6 years ago. (it was bizarrely based on rate-able value).
When football on sky first started it paid for itself, through people coming out to watch it and spending behind the bar.
For the last 7/8 years not many at all go to a club to watch football.


way to og for any pub or Club is to get a Nordic sat system up and running
as its much cheaper than sky.

also they screen live prem and a championship game on saturday at 15.00,as
sky or bbc or itv cant

also whatever sky show the Nordic system will show just in a different lanuage at times
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: GazLaz on September 02, 2014, 06:11:47 pm
Sky Sports is essential. How people manage to live without it I'll never know.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: bobjimwilly on September 02, 2014, 06:45:38 pm
Sky Sports is essential. How people manage to live without it I'll never know.

Is that tongue in cheek or are you being serious Gaz?  :blink:
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: GazLaz on September 03, 2014, 06:50:18 am
Sky Sports is essential. How people manage to live without it I'll never know.

Is that tongue in cheek or are you being serious Gaz?  :blink:

Serious. Football, Darts, Cricket, Horse Racing all on tap.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: RobTheRover on September 03, 2014, 12:37:25 pm
I've just got rid of it, just got BT Sports/ESPN now.

I'm missing it, I have to say, although I'm not missing the £100+ a month it was costing me for Sky.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: GazLaz on September 03, 2014, 01:11:50 pm
It is expensive really. I've got Sky fibre broardband so have to pay for BT.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: bfdoncaster west on September 03, 2014, 10:10:28 pm
who the Murdoch Mafia
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on September 03, 2014, 10:24:15 pm
Defendants couldn't even be bothered to turn up! Serves them right. No sympathy whatsoever. They deserved everything they got. Hope the customers don't suffer, though: I have a feeling that these crooks might be tempted to put the prices up to pay for the fines.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: bfdoncaster west on September 03, 2014, 10:27:27 pm
wot  crooks
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on September 03, 2014, 10:33:12 pm
wot  crooks

Simon Barnett and Anthony Ball of Hogan’s Bar, for committing a criminal offence.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Sheepskin Stu on September 03, 2014, 10:36:26 pm
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7210/6934602855_caed00ef53_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on September 03, 2014, 10:39:51 pm
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7210/6934602855_caed00ef53_z.jpg)

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: BobG on September 03, 2014, 10:47:35 pm
Lol Gaz!

I must bt the exact antithesis of you then. I wouldn't have Sky in this house no matter what you gave me. A million quid? Pshaw! I'd rather burn the money. That man and his brood are dangerous. Dangerous, immoral - or even amoral, criminal, destructive and grasping. And Australian.

Sky? You can keep it where the sun don't shine mate. :) If ever I have the misfortune to possess a copy of the Sun or the Times I do keep them though. In case I ever run out of bog paper.

BobG
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: River Don on September 03, 2014, 11:11:53 pm
If Premier league football is your thing, then a jailbroken android smart TV box is probably the thing to research.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: LincsRover on September 04, 2014, 12:12:17 am
Lol Gaz!

I must bt the exact antithesis of you then. I wouldn't have Sky in this house no matter what you gave me. A million quid? Pshaw! I'd rather burn the money. That man and his brood are dangerous. Dangerous, immoral - or even amoral, criminal, destructive and grasping. And Australian.

Sky? You can keep it where the sun don't shine mate. :) If ever I have the misfortune to possess a copy of the Sun or the Times I do keep them though. In case I ever run out of bog paper.

BobG

 :that:

Thanks BobG you've saved me a rant! Couldn't agree more!

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: RobTheRover on September 04, 2014, 12:15:59 am
If Premier league football is your thing, then a jailbroken android smart TV box is probably the thing to research.

Or a device known as a dreambox I've heard mentioned.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: River Don on September 04, 2014, 08:46:34 am
If Premier league football is your thing, then a jailbroken android smart TV box is probably the thing to research.

Or a device known as a dreambox I've heard mentioned.

Is it legal to use these sorts of things,i have heard the F1 Box mentioned do any of them actually work?

I doubt they are strictly legal it simply collects links to live streaming services on the web but if you're not using it to show games in your pub, then who is to know? ...

The device I heard about was streaming all the sky services, all the BT services and had access to every game played at 3pm through services like CBSN. Well that's what I heard. I imagine you would have a decent chance of finding coverage of any big game in the world. I heard you could watch all the latest blockbuster movies and box sets too.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: GazLaz on September 04, 2014, 08:51:38 am
Lol Gaz!

I must bt the exact antithesis of you then. I wouldn't have Sky in this house no matter what you gave me. A million quid? Pshaw! I'd rather burn the money. That man and his brood are dangerous. Dangerous, immoral - or even amoral, criminal, destructive and grasping. And Australian.

Sky? You can keep it where the sun don't shine mate. :) If ever I have the misfortune to possess a copy of the Sun or the Times I do keep them though. In case I ever run out of bog paper.

BobG

If you used that theory for everything you wouldn't spend much money. You definitely wouldn't live in England either. Just happens to be RM is a high profile crook.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: idler on September 04, 2014, 09:03:11 am
If Premier league football is your thing, then a jailbroken android smart TV box is probably the thing to research.

Or a device known as a dreambox I've heard mentioned.

Is it legal to use these sorts of things,i have heard the F1 Box mentioned do any of them actually work?

I doubt they are strictly legal it simply collects links to live streaming services on the web but if you're not using it to show games in your pub, then who is to know? ...

The device I heard about was streaming all the sky services, all the BT services and had access to every game played at 3pm through services like CBSN. Well that's what I heard. I imagine you would have a decent chance of finding coverage of any big game in the world. I heard you could watch all the latest blockbuster movies and box sets too.
These boxes are about £100 in Bradford and last about a year before they need re-chipping or whatever.
I haven't had one but know people that have.
You do get all sky channels a damn site cheaper than paying their monthly rate.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: River Don on September 04, 2014, 09:09:40 am
Idler

The potential of services like Sly Sports to bring the cost of televised football down is immense. It's like pirate music, if enough people are using it then the only thing the broadcasters can do is make their services cheaper so it isn't worth the trouble of going to find it.

That would mean less money going into football, more realistic player wages and everything. It's like the t'interweb has the power to bring some sanity back into the game.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: idler on September 04, 2014, 10:01:31 am
I've no problem with anybody short changing Sky.
As you say if Sky started dropping prices then maybe it wouldn't be worth the difference to break the law.
I choose not to have Sky because of how they abuse their position.
I don't bother with the cheap boxes as I don't want to be tempted to watch even more TV than I do now.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: River Don on September 04, 2014, 10:50:01 am
I tend to agree there. I did go with Sky for a couple of years but I found I was watching so much football in the evenings I was starting to get bored with the game.

The other thing with the cheap boxes is you need a decentish broadband connection but ours is really poor.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Jenny on September 04, 2014, 11:44:38 am
The cheap boxes are great if you have fibre - personally I would never pay for Sky, even if a box only last 6 months the upfront cost is far less than the cost of Sky for a couple of months subscription.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: River Don on September 04, 2014, 12:20:16 pm
You don't quite need fibre. If you have a connection that gives you a fairly stable connection of 5mbps then you're in business... I have heard.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: bfdoncaster west on November 08, 2014, 12:12:45 am
who the Murdoch Mafia
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: bobjimwilly on November 08, 2014, 12:20:29 am
who the Murdoch Mafia

The Murdoch Family who own Sky, The Sun and other news and tv companies around the world.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: hoolahoop on November 08, 2014, 12:51:46 am
 :whistle:?
who the Murdoch Mafia

Horse's head in my bed if I tell you the answer to that young Brendan.
Good to see you're following the thread.....I know nothing  :whistle:
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: Muttley on November 08, 2014, 08:20:53 am
It's a joke foreigners can watch our game abroad,our people have to pay a fortune to watch it,it is helping our game to lose interest from the kids.

Football is not a TV show.

If "our people" and their kids want to watch football they could always get off their arses and down to the local park, non-league team or even the Keepmoat and watch a game the way it was meant to be.
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: bobjimwilly on November 08, 2014, 10:12:44 am
It's a joke foreigners can watch our game abroad,our people have to pay a fortune to watch it,it is helping our game to lose interest from the kids.

The reason 3pm kickoffs aren't allowed to be show on uk tv is to encourage people to go to matches and actually get kids interested in watching football!
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: BobG on November 08, 2014, 04:44:58 pm
Works real well that don't it?!

Neither my lad nor any of his mates show any interest whatsoeover in being taken along to a game on a Saturday - or any other day. And before you say, Alex is quite a sporty lad. He's even lost interest in Arsenal - who I 'allowed' him to support when I could see he wasn't turned on by DRFC. From what I can see football is likely to be in the middle of losing a generation.

BobG
Title: Re: Doncaster Pub Fined for illegally showing Sky Sports
Post by: bfdoncaster west on November 09, 2014, 01:23:50 pm
why not get  Doncaster Balls Limited to invest in rover