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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: 1872TRUEBLUE on December 31, 2015, 04:01:24 pm
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Is this fella any good?
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Yes but rarely shows it
P.S. He will look like Ronaldo at your level 😀
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Yes, quality. He will smash that league to bits.
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He's a fanny.
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He should take that league and the premier league by storm.
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Quality wise, he will be much better than most players at that level. However, if he gets a lot of physical attention he may go missing in action.
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He's got all the potential in the world but can he consistently unlock it?
For me he's the sort of player that has the promise to go on to much higher things but may equally just slide back down the leagues.
Good luck Harry......in the end I am happy that both Harry and Rovers get a fresh start.
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Good player on his day. Just that his day is once every 3 weeks.
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Good player on his day. Just that his day is once every 3 weeks.
Don't exaggerate. It's not that often.
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He'd very talented, especially for Scotland. But he has the mindset of a child. And defenders up there will knock f**k out of him.
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Quality wise, he will be much better than most players at that level. However, if he gets a lot of physical attention he may go missing in action.
Unfortunately its very physical up north..
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He's a very good player, although perhaps a bit of an extravagant luxury in a struggling team.
I reckon he'll go down a storm north of the border.
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Class player, we should have built a team around him instead of sticking him on the wing every now and again.
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Sorry Mush. I think I will go with Darren Ferguson's opinion thanks.
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nobody was asking you to agree with me. Thanks.
By the way I love and trust fergie, doesn't mean I can't rate Forrester or have my own opinions.
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Quality wise, he will be much better than most players at that level. However, if he gets a lot of physical attention he may go missing in action.
Unfortunately its very physical up north..
If thats the case he'll go missing in action.
The boy has the talent in spades, the application is suspect, maybe he'll lose the Billy Big b*llocks attitude at Rangers
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Warburton may just be the manager to get the best out of him.
I think he is the type of player that needs constantly to be told how good he is. A luxury player like Taabat at QPR was, but a match winner on his day.
Such a shame he we haven't seen the best of him consistently, but I fear someone else will. :crying:
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Just so were all on the same page as far as quality is concerned heres the highlights to our last game {only 90seconds} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJSCtbN6R34
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The boy has the talent in spades, the application is suspect, maybe he'll lose the Billy Big b*llocks attitude at Rangers
Yep, the title of this thread suggests there won't entertain such an attitude at Rangers
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Just so were all on the same page as far as quality is concerned heres the highlights to our last game {only 90seconds} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJSCtbN6R34
Sunday league standard defending and school boy level goalkeeping. f**king hell, he'll be in three figures up there....
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Just so were all on the same page as far as quality is concerned heres the highlights to our last game {only 90seconds} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJSCtbN6R34
Some of that defending is comical. Especially Hib's two goals.
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Is this fella any good?
Will be watching with interest. Perhaps you will let us know how it pans out !
The bloke looks to have the talent and ability to be a great Player and has changed games for us but could not / did not manage it again and again as the average fan like me would want to see
So for me the Jury is still out .... this move may be the making of him and good luck to him as he has everything (still) to play for. As for us I can see nothing but positives and as we have been without him for a fair while for reasons we can only guess at - imo we will not miss him and have already "moved on" as a Team / Club
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Good luck to the lad. He undoubtedly has the talent. Whether he can consistently have the right attitude remains to be seen.
Andy Watson mark2?
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Is this fella any good?
Will be watching with interest. Perhaps you will let us know how it pans out !
The bloke looks to have the talent and ability to be a great Player and has changed games for us but could not / did not manage it again and again as the average fan like me would want to see
So for me the Jury is still out .... this move may be the making of him and good luck to him as he has everything (still) to play for. As for us I can see nothing but positives and as we have been without him for a fair while for reasons we can only guess at - imo we will not miss him and have already "moved on" as a Team / Club
Ill let you's know, seem like a good set of lads on here (wasn't expecting nice replies to being a Rangers fan to be honest haha)
Were on track to move back to where we belong playing in the top tier again so hopefully he can add some more spark to the team!
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The move could be the making of him, of course. If he does well I'm sure he'll get a lengthy contact up there. Rangers are pretty well nailed on for promotion and with a bit of strengthening they will be pushing Celtic and Aberdeen next season.
Put it this way, I doubt Harry would have got a top end Championship club down here.
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Well, I've heard some bizarrely hyped-up claims from football fans over the years, but I think that hearing a second tier side from a tiny, consistently under-achieving province claim to be the world's most successful club might just take the biscuit.
Unless they mean most successful at tax-dodging...
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If you take as the measure of success trophies won, then Rangers do have a claim to be the world's most successful club. However it isn't really a very good measure. It puts the Scottish League Cup on the same level as the European Cup!
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Yes it is ironic that 10 years or so back (perhaps a bit more) there was talk of Rangers and Celtic playing in the English game and the talk was - where would they enter the Pyramid
Right at the top due to their support base ? Tier 2 so that the Top tier Clubs would not have their feathers ruffled too much or be forced into Relegation to make way for the Big 2 from North of the Border - or the Third tier was also considered so they would have to legitimately work their way up and earn their places in the Premier League
I don't think there is any doubt now where the start in point would have to be *
* I realise of course that this would probably never happen under the current UEFA rules
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Yes it is ironic that 10 years or so back (perhaps a bit more) there was talk of Rangers and Celtic playing in the English game and the talk was - where would they enter the Pyramid
Right at the top due to their support base ? Tier 2 so that the Top tier Clubs would not have their feathers ruffled too much or be forced into Relegation to make way for the Big 2 from North of the Border - or the Third tier was also considered so they would have to legitimately work their way up and earn their places in the Premier League
I don't think there is any doubt now where the start in point would have to be *
* I realise of course that this would probably never happen under the current UEFA rules
Won't happen we tried this a few years back http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2261922/Rangers-moving-Premier-League-according-boss.html
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The highest they should ever be allowed in is league 2 and even that wouldn't be right,
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The lad has great potential. We saw some glimpses of it here at Donny, but sadly some inconsistencies in his performance and an injury got him little game time. I'm sure he will do well wherever he goes and plays. He will no doubt get a bag full of goals and 'rub our noses in it' ?
I'm sure we all wish the lad well at his new club 👍
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The move could be the making of him, of course. If he does well I'm sure he'll get a lengthy contact up there. Rangers are pretty well nailed on for promotion and with a bit of strengthening they will be pushing Celtic and Aberdeen next season.
Put it this way, I doubt Harry would have got a top end Championship club down here.
.... Kyle Bennett - Gary Woods - and the McKays should do it !
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They were liquidated after running up such massive debts they couldn't even pay the local paper shop £20 that they owed. Have a read of downfall by phill Mac giolla bhain, and see how the club consistently tried to rob the tax man to sign players they couldn't afford to. People should have gone to prison for such a long term fraud of the public purse, starting with David Murray, the man at the top.
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Start firing up your tanning machines.... Boy needs UV and some TLC.
He can play on his day, but a luxury item not required at Rovers...
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Do they have a Matalan store in Glasgow?
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They were liquidated after running up such massive debts they couldn't even pay the local paper shop £20 that they owed. Have a read of downfall by phill Mac giolla bhain, and see how the club consistently tried to rob the tax man to sign players they couldn't afford to. People should have gone to prison for such a long term fraud of the public purse, starting with David Murray, the man at the top.
I come in peace.. but that is a lot of misinformation right there. You should definitely check your sources before you type out such rubbish. Ill Phill is a complete bigot that has fled to Ireland after...well, you can look into that.
What were the massive debts? You talking about the potential debts? We were proven, in court, to not owe that. The debts that were ran up, were PAYE which was done by a fraudster byt the name of Craig Whyte, who is up in court for "serious fraud" by the way.. we were victims of a criminal act.
You mention us "robbing the tax man" for signing players "we couldnt afford", which we clearly did.. we paid them. They were utilising a tax relief system that is completely legal. Is it in bad taste? Probably, yes, but legal none the less. Most teams use these schemes by the way.. yourselves probably as well!
Bit of a rant, Im sorry, but I just cannot allow someone to pass such lies as fact.
I would encourage everyone to look into his source. Thats not his real name either... gotta wonder why, eh?
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I think the lower down the leagues he goes the more he's going to struggle because where skill lacks physical attention compensates.
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Start firing up your tanning machines.... Boy needs UV and some TLC.
He can play on his day, but a luxury item not required at Rovers...
He is mixed race you plonker. Doesn't need a sun bed!
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He's also a fish mitten, and that's putting it politely .
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It's a lottery. You might have got a real match winner. But you might have got a waste of space too. He's got tyhe talent. Loads of it. He could look a million dollars if that clip is a typical example. But a couple of clogs up the rear and he could disappear for ever. Don't play him on the wing - complete waste of his talent and it lets him drift out of the game. And he probably does need a good cuddle pretty often. I guesS Warburton must be good at that though since he's managed Forrester before when he did well. He must be confident he can bring something good out of him or he wouldn't have bothered.
BobG
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Start firing up your tanning machines.... Boy needs UV and some TLC.
He can play on his day, but a luxury item not required at Rovers...
He is mixed race you plonker. Doesn't need a sun bed!
Is he really? - what's the mix? - genuinely didn't know.....
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Start firing up your tanning machines.... Boy needs UV and some TLC.
He can play on his day, but a luxury item not required at Rovers...
He is mixed race you plonker. Doesn't need a sun bed!
Is he really? - what's the mix? - genuinely didn't know.....
17% Bulgarian
23% Kenyan
10% Indian
15% Cherokee
15% Ginger
20% Ego
Hope that helps.
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Start firing up your tanning machines.... Boy needs UV and some TLC.
He can play on his day, but a luxury item not required at Rovers...
He is mixed race you plonker. Doesn't need a sun bed!
Is he really? - what's the mix? - genuinely didn't know.....
17% Bulgarian
23% Kenyan
10% Indian
15% Cherokee
15% Ginger
20% Ego
Hope that helps.
Not really - that adds up to 100% and I can't remember HF being 100%
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100% inconsistent.
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Start firing up your tanning machines.... Boy needs UV and some TLC.
He can play on his day, but a luxury item not required at Rovers...
He is mixed race you plonker. Doesn't need a sun bed!
Is he really? - what's the mix? - genuinely didn't know.....
17% Bulgarian
23% Kenyan
10% Indian
15% Cherokee
15% Ginger
20% Ego
Hope that helps.
15% ginger..........I'm out
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In the words of Brian Clough " he hasn't got the heart to fill a thimble" ! You might be lucky enough to get the odd performance out of him at Ibrox but that's about it. Can't see him turning it on away at the likes of Dumbarton or whoever should imagine a lot of the away pitches will be quite heavy this time of year which wont suit him either.
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Can be a good player. But never ever wanted to be at DR glad he's gone
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Can be a good player. But never ever wanted to be at DR glad he's gone
If he never wanted to be at Donny why did he sign in the first place?
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Start firing up your tanning machines.... Boy needs UV and some TLC.
He can play on his day, but a luxury item not required at Rovers...
He is mixed race you plonker. Doesn't need a sun bed!
Is he really? - what's the mix? - genuinely didn't know.....
17% Bulgarian
23% Kenyan
10% Indian
15% Cherokee
15% Ginger
20% Ego
Hope that helps.
15% ginger..........I'm out
His grandparents are full on Afro Caribbean.
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We seem to have gone from 'what's he play like?' To who his bloody grandparents were!
These forums do make me chuckle sometimes 😁
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Good luck to him - certainly has the talent and really hope it works out for him and Rangers
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dont get your hopes up that he is going to be great. i have been watching him for nearly 3 years and you could count on one hand the amount of good games he had
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Link up between him and Wellens against Wigan was brilliant and left me anticipating more
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Here's the starting line up and the 3 used Subs from Scotlands last competitive game.
Only 1 is plying his trade North of the Border , and he's from Celtic.
Non from the Worlds most success football team.
Most are from the Championship or lower half prem teams.
McGregor- Hull
Hutton - Aston Villa
Greer - Brighton
Berra - Ipswich
Robertson - Hull
Brown - Celtic
Dorrans - Norwich
Ritchie - Bournemouth
Martin - Derby
Maloney - Hull
Fletcher - Sunderland
Fletcher - WBA
Russell - Derby
Naismith - Everton
May be Forrester can make the Scottish national team if learns to play the Bag pipes. :silly:
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Bit of a conundrum why we saw too little of his undoubted talent.
Injuries aside, at times he seemed to try too hard and desperately wanted to be the star of the show and be the crowd pleased.
When things weren't going well his disappointment came out in acts of petulance.
As said above, I think it will take the right man to get the best out of him. On the pitch, I think he needs to slow himself down a bit and show more composure. Dean Sheils had more guile and craft to his game.
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That goal he scored at the begining of the season when we let the opposition walk one in summed him up for me, he claimed the kick back to them was a miskick, in reality he meant it without a doubt.
Talent in abundance, petulance in abundance, and missing in action in abundance, good luck to him, especially if they've got cloggers up there that will rough him up!
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That goal he scored at the begining of the season when we let the opposition walk one in summed him up for me, he claimed the kick back to them was a miskick, in reality he meant it without a doubt.
Talent in abundance, petulance in abundance, and missing in action in abundance, good luck to him, especially if they've got cloggers up there that will rough him up!
NOTHING anyone can say will convince me he did not go for goal so I totally agree with you
I said at the time that imo the ONLY alternative explanation was he saw where the keeper was (at the edge of the 18 yard box) and he thought watch me make this f****r scramble. He then let fly thinking the Keeper would have to belt back and catch it and of course if I am right he overcooked it and the Keeper did not get back !
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Can be a good player. But never ever wanted to be at DR glad he's gone
If he never wanted to be at Donny why did he sign in the first place?
er £££££ s showed little interest in our club. Always thought he should be playing for a better club.
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I thik the average of all the above comments pretty much sums him up.
When he arrived from Brentford I was excited, but he has rarely delivered his potential for whatever reason. I'd have thought having Paul Dickov managing and guiding him was perfect, but proved not to be. The lad needs a kick up the arse, needs to grow up and grow some, needs putting in the right position which is undoubtedly as an old style inside forward, and needs to claim that position and work hard.
He has flair but not as much as he thinks. His game will come good with consitent MATURE hard graft in training and on the pitch, and realistically, in proving his worth from the bench.
I'd love it if you can knock him into shape and send the finished article of a man back to us - but I won't bet on that.
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Like others have said, he certainly looks to have the potential and can change a game however, he always frustrated me with his often greediness to keep the ball to 'do it himself' and have seen him many times fail to make a simple pass for a better goal scoring opportunity than he may be in. It seems like when his head drops he will become too frustrated and either try something stupid (and lose possession) or reckless (and get sent off). The latter happened several times early on and I only call it reckless as he is quite a lightweight player and I have no doubt will get seven bells kicked out of him up there, which may knock him back with potential injuries. At times like this he may also look uninterested and pissed off cos things aren't happening for him.
Forresters' lack of game time under not only our new regime of Fergie, but also under Rob Jones (and to a lesser extent, Paul Dickov) can only lead to the obvious that either his efforts in training is poor or, more likely, his general attitude.
I reckon you'll see positives from him in the first weeks/months but will see games where he does not do anything. If the manager and team can sort his attitude out, then you'll have a good young player, that may take hard work.
I think my opinions are shared by the consensus of Rovers fans, I personally think he tried to step in to Cotterrils boots after he went to Birmingham but the different class on player was obvious from day 1.
I wish him well, and hope you get back to where you should be. Please feedback in the future though cos through all the negatives of HF, if he can sort his attitude and game out, this could end up being a transfer that we regret... But I'll remain sceptical.
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Can be a good player. But never ever wanted to be at DR glad he's gone
If he never wanted to be at Donny why did he sign in the first place?
er £££££ s showed little interest in our club. Always thought he should be playing for a better club.
But he could probably have got more ££££££s elsewhere, or was no one else interested in him.
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That goal he scored at the begining of the season when we let the opposition walk one in summed him up for me, he claimed the kick back to them was a miskick, in reality he meant it without a doubt.
Talent in abundance, petulance in abundance, and missing in action in abundance, good luck to him, especially if they've got cloggers up there that will rough him up!
For a player who is considered to be awful some people on here, IF he did mean to score that goal against Bury, and i don't believe he did, then it was a fantastic bit of skill.
If ten different players tried just once each to do the same they would probably not score.
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Doncaster Rovers world's most successful club. Well we would be if we were put in the Donny Sunday league. Very similar to the Scottish league
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Hound.
No-one's questioning the lad's basic ability. He has that in spades. But you see American college kids doing astonishing things with a football when they have time and space. Doing it with a hairy arsed professional trying to dismember you is a different matter altogether.
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Doncaster Rovers world's most successful club. Well we would be if we were put in the Donny Sunday league. Very similar to the Scottish league
You say that, but I've seen some performances over the years...
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Doncaster Rovers world's most successful club. Well we would be if we were put in the Donny Sunday league. Very similar to the Scottish league
Firmly believe we would beat Doncaster. Maybe a friendlys on the cards at Ibrox
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Firmly believe we would beat Doncaster.
Aye, plenty of "big" clubs have thought very much the same down the years. :)
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Maybe so Red, and I hope it happens again, but if Rangers didn't put a cricket score past us then something is badly wrong with footer these days. As, of course, we all know there is.
BobG
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Doncaster Rovers world's most successful club. Well we would be if we were put in the Donny Sunday league. Very similar to the Scottish league
Firmly believe we would beat Doncaster. Maybe a friendlys on the cards at Ibrox
We've bloodied many a top teams noses suspecting we were easy meat, just ask 1-2-3 O'Leary(David), he knows what i'm talking about!.
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That goal he scored at the begining of the season when we let the opposition walk one in summed him up for me, he claimed the kick back to them was a miskick, in reality he meant it without a doubt.
Talent in abundance, petulance in abundance, and missing in action in abundance, good luck to him, especially if they've got cloggers up there that will rough him up!
For a player who is considered to be awful some people on here, IF he did mean to score that goal against Bury, and i don't believe he did, then it was a fantastic bit of skill.
If ten different players tried just once each to do the same they would probably not score.
Of all the criticism I've read on here in all the threads about Forrester (and there have been plenty of both), I can't recall a single one questioning his ability. All criticisms have been about his attitude/application.
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drfchound
For a player who is considered to be awful some people on here, IF he did mean to score that goal against Bury, and i don't believe he did, then it was a fantastic bit of skill.
If ten different players tried just once each to do the same they would probably not score.
Of course he mean't it , he takes a look and knows exactly where the keeper is before he strikes the ball long hard and high .
Other wise he would have hit it along the floor and a lot softer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-n5lQuw5zU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-n5lQuw5zU)
It was a fantastic bit of skill like you say , especially the bit where he tries to make it look like an accident. :)
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Good luck to the lad I hope he does well, Warburton's style is to take on players that couldn't fufill they're potential and develop them.
But I'm more interested in posting about the typical replies about Rangers.
Whatever anyone wants to say about the club there were 38000 Rangers season ticket holders (with a seasonal average of 45,000 ish) in the 4th tier of Scottish football against part-time opposition every week, that was more than the champions of England that season.
Everyone knew what the quality was going to be like but the loyalty from the support is incredible.
There was also just shy of 50,000 at the hibs game on Monday, 3, maybe 4 English clubs could command that.
For a club to go through what it did and rise from the ashes like it has shows what a huge club Rangers really is, ''the journey'' has been filled with pain and disappointment, but we're not as far away now as some would like you to believe.
And when we get there we may even one day add to the 117 major trophies and 4 European finals we've played in.
P.S everyone slagging off the Scottish league has a short memory, Rangers won titles in an era when they could sign the England captain, and titles were won in era's where Scottish clubs were making and winning European finals.
Anyone who watched the 4-2 Rangers-Hibs title race game on BT then the Man utd- Chelsea megabucks dirge would understand there's more to football than sums of money.
I would like to think a proud club like Donny Rovers who buck a lot of trends in that regard would understand that as much as anyone.
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Anyone who comes on here to boast about the number of trophies Rangers have won and then says 'there's more to football than sums of money', is either being extremly ironic or somewhat myopic in how those trophies were won.
Harry Forrester - can chip the keeper with a volley from the halfway line, but he can't get a corner in the six yard box or a free kick within five yards of the goal!
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I for one hope the lad is successful and that Rangers once again become top team in Scotland best of luck
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Ranger Bob makes a lot of good points.
On the whole, the Scottish leagues are not at the same quality as the English ones but IMHO that is a result of the much lower population which cannot sustain the quantity of teams, hence why most of the lower league Scottish teams are part time and attract 300 or so fans.
But their top teams with the 10s of thousands attending do have the clout to be competitive. Yes there may only be 2 really big clubs, with the occasional upsurge from TLO Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen and Dundee Utd, but it is what it is. This shouldn't mean those of us following the English leagues should be condescending.
If you were to ask me to identify my top 5 football matches I have ever attended for entertainment, atmosphere and overall experience etc, then one of them would be from the Scottish 4th tier. This was in 1997 when both Ross Co and Inverness were still in that division, and on a cold wet night I saw Inverness win 3-0 in Dingwall. There were almost 5000 there that night - a sell out - in a division where many teams struggle to get 300.
You can only play what the opposition put out.
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Problem with a lot of players is that they believe that they are talented enough to succeed.
Unfortunately - longevity in professional sport of all nature depends on hard-work even more so than talent! I'm sure there's proof from some study somewhere saying that to succeed in professional sport your balance needs to be 5% talent and 95% hard work.
Forrester is a talented player of that there is no doubt but for whatever reasons he rarely seems to put in the effort and hard work his talent deserves to really make him shine.
I hope he does great things at Rangers, puts in the hours and effort and really flourishes allowing him to get his career back on track fully!
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Forrester should've listened to Sir Geoff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F3n80V_sb0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F3n80V_sb0)
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HF is expected to make his Debut (if international clearance comes through) in Rangers home cup game against SL 1 side Cowdenbeath live on Sky Sports 1 next Sunday at 1pm.
That's a nice steady introduction for him.
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I don't doubt RangerBob's opinion of the fan base of his team, but you should look at our recent 20 year history before claiming a "rise from the ashes".
It'd be interesting to see how many ST's they'd have renewed if they were in an identical position to us at the back end of the 90's!!
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There are clubs and towns for showy players like Forrester but Rovers is not one of them . The fact that we are an ex mining town and still today are a working class no nonsense society fashions the 'culture' and defines the type of player we admire . Above all the player must show he cares , work hard and keep his feet on the ground .
I would not try to compare Donny and Glasgow but I suspect they have a lot of folk who call a spade a spade up there as as well! Get those feet on the ground Harry boy!
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Hound.
No-one's questioning the lad's basic ability. He has that in spades. But you see American college kids doing astonishing things with a football when they have time and space. Doing it with a hairy arsed professional trying to dismember you is a different matter altogether.
I am well aware of that BST but in the same situation as HF was, i bet ten others, with just one chance, would not hit it over a keeper and into the net.
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Good luck to the lad I hope he does well, Warburton's style is to take on players that couldn't fufill they're potential and develop them.
But I'm more interested in posting about the typical replies about Rangers.
Whatever anyone wants to say about the club there were 38000 Rangers season ticket holders (with a seasonal average of 45,000 ish) in the 4th tier of Scottish football against part-time opposition every week, that was more than the champions of England that season.
Everyone knew what the quality was going to be like but the loyalty from the support is incredible.
There was also just shy of 50,000 at the hibs game on Monday, 3, maybe 4 English clubs could command that.
For a club to go through what it did and rise from the ashes like it has shows what a huge club Rangers really is, ''the journey'' has been filled with pain and disappointment, but we're not as far away now as some would like you to believe.
And when we get there we may even one day add to the 117 major trophies and 4 European finals we've played in.
P.S everyone slagging off the Scottish league has a short memory, Rangers won titles in an era when they could sign the England captain, and titles were won in era's where Scottish clubs were making and winning European finals.
Anyone who watched the 4-2 Rangers-Hibs title race game on BT then the Man utd- Chelsea megabucks dirge would understand there's more to football than sums of money.
I would like to think a proud club like Donny Rovers who buck a lot of trends in that regard would understand that as much as anyone.
Spot on.
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The HF factor kicks in - will be even get in side after that
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Dean Shiels is at Rangers, came on as sub today. Scored 31 times in 98 games over 2 1/2 seasons. Forrester isn't as good IMHO but potentially could be. Back with his old boss, see what happens.
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Waghorn has 18 goals already that tells you a lot about the standard
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Celtic are the team.
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Waghorn has 18 goals already that tells you a lot about the standard
You say that, but if Rovers signed Waghorn, I would be very excited.
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Forrester received similar comments from the Brentford fans when he signed for us.
If you all remember, we had just been promoted on the last day of he season at Brentford, and Forrester was soon lined up as a key signing. One of JR's last signings, if I'm not mistaken.
He looked very good in preseason, and did well in the opening games of the Championship, then picked up an injury that kept him out for virtually the entire season. We missed him, I don't care what anyone says, and a few more games with him playing could have seen us get the single point that ultimately would have kept us up in the Championship.
The last 2 seasons have been littered with a combination of injury and rumours of poor attitude/being out of favour with the manager. . The lad needs a fresh start where he can knuckle down, throw off his demons and get back to enjoying his football. Good luck Harry.
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Rob
2 comments on that last paragraph.
1) managerS - plural.
2) The last 18 months have also been littered with several unprofessional f**king-about antics on the pitch. (Two utterly unnecessary sendings off at the start of last season - You could argue (and I did) that he was unlucky, but he brought both on himself by stupid and pointless actions; two Billy Big b*llocks set-piece antics against Sheff Utd; the stupid back pass against Bury; the AWOL matches against Bristol City and Bradford City). I'd forgive any of those in isolation, but put them together and there is an immature pattern.
As you say, good luck to the lad if he gets his head straight. He'd be a joy to watch if he grew up. But to be honest, he's somebody else's problem now and I really won't be investing much emotional capital in him.
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Dean Shiels is at Rangers, came on as sub today. Scored 31 times in 98 games over 2 1/2 seasons. Forrester isn't as good IMHO but potentially could be. Back with his old boss, see what happens.
Ah , Sunday League Shiels , that tells you all you need to know.
He wouldn't get in our current team........ or who would he take the place of if you disagree with me.
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The return of TLO Doncaster.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-gannon-signing-players-doncaster-7107705
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The return of TLO Doncaster.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-gannon-signing-players-doncaster-7107705
Love it!
I don't know who he means by "a couple of players" unless Fergie is planning to offload someone else to them.
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My take is very much the same as most in that Rangers have signed an extremely talented player who though is quite some way off from the level of maturity needed at either team' s level.
We couldn't afford to carry a seemingly precocious talent but Rangers can afford to lose him in their squad if necessary.
If both Dickov and Ferguson couldn't make a team player out of him then Forrester's Rangers might.
IMHO Rangers is not the right club or League for someone who at the moment seems either incapable or unwilling to put a shift in.
As for Rangers and their fan's assertions that they are the most successful club in terms of all the major trophies they have won ? Well in my opinion its laughable to boast about what you have won in a 2 maybe 3 horse race.
As for your crowds. I understand that the population of Scotland is slightly smaller than the population of London where folk support Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, West Ham amongst a host of many others .
A sectarian following of 50,000 isn't going to disappear now is it ? I mean Gers fans are not going down the road to Celtic Park now are they ? Where would these supporters have gone to get their fortnightly fix of home games ?
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FLJ
Forrester is actually a NON-Player from TLO Donny.
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Correct - an ex Player
See the mighty Gers played in front of 1894 Fans away yesterday at Dumbarton - all of 14.7 miles away
I watched them at Queen of the South a few tears back and there were thousands so the Tickets MUST have been restricted
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Full house
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Full house
Maybe not ... from DFC Official Site
We have space for just over 2000 spectators (2025 to be exact!) and accommodation for supporters is covered and all seated.
Could have had to segregate though and so lost "some" capacity
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The return of TLO Doncaster.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-gannon-signing-players-doncaster-7107705
Love it! :P :scarf:
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I don't think there's any doubting the Rangers fanbase. Huge club, steeped in tradition. The Scottish league has limited quality without doubt, but success is relative to the level you're at. I loved our Conference cups, play offs, lower division title wins and JPT Trophy wins. The day I accept the jibes of plastic Manchester United fans that they're not meaningful titles because they're not the PL, FA Cup or Champions League will be the day I give up with football altogether. For any of us to sit and criticise the significance of the competitions that Rangers have won down the years is pretty sad in my opinion. They're a Scottish club in the Scottish leagues, they're not going to win the EPL or FA Cup!
It's a great move for HF to a club that will inevitably be back in European competition before long, and he gets to showcase his talents every other week on a truly great stage at Ibrox. Good luck to him, he has great talent. That performance against Coventry at home the previous Boxing Day was right up there with any individual display you could wish to see. He was unplayable. The fact he has that in his locker shows exactly what he can do. The fact that it's so easy to pinpoint his top performances also explains why very few will lose sleep over his departure.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he goes on to be a huge success, but he definitely needs to get his attitude, focus and commitment right for that to be consistently achieved. Will be interested to see how he gets on, and equally glad that we've freed up a considerable space on the wage bill for someone that might actually play.
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If we could also free up main's not insignificant wages too we'll have took 3 players (wit their own individual strengths) on decent money who don't fit into DF's wa of playing which should mean we can get another couple in who do!
I think the future looks pretty good tbf!
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I agree with nearly all that Jonathan .. but not that HF has great talent .He never put two good games back to back did he ?
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Interesting how a sizeable number of you sound like the condescending Leeds fans you so despise. Scottish football might not be in the rudest of health but it's a bit rich that TLO us(!) think we've the right to be quite so patronising about the standard up there, especially given our history of plumbing the depths of playing standards!
As for HF, the most talented "individual" in the team, but also the most inconsistent. Good luck to him, I wish he'd been more prepared to get stuck in while he was here and won't miss him now he's not.
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Hear hear Jonathan, Rios. I think this thread is one of the most shameful I have ever read on this forum. The spread of the ignorance, of the lack of historical awareness, of the lack of reality and the patronising bullshit are downright scary. These people could be on a jury near you....
BobG
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Interesting how a sizeable number of you sound like the condescending Leeds fans you so despise. Scottish football might not be in the rudest of health but it's a bit rich that TLO us(!) think we've the right to be quite so patronising about the standard up there, especially given our history of plumbing the depths of playing standards!
As for HF, the most talented "individual" in the team, but also the most inconsistent. Good luck to him, I wish he'd been more prepared to get stuck in while he was here and won't miss him now he's not.
Sorry to disagree but the most talented individual in the team is still with us and wearing the 26 shirt Now if HF had only the same application....... JMHO
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I think the most talented individual is sat in the managers chair
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The way I look at it is that he's gone now, probably wellens too. Add to this potentially chaplow (didn't DF get rid of him at Preston?), main and n'guessen, that would free up for some players that DF wants, and will fit his system. This is all potentially, but I would be happy with that. As I see it wages spent on players not fitting in with how we want to play or not the right ones for the manager are wasted. I accept that you need a squad and not everyone can play but if you have player earning a big chunk of your wage bill not playing then it is technically wasted. The ones DF has brought in have been of a decent quality, I appreciate that they are "only" loans but that's all he can do at the moment out of contract excluded, so I hope that continues. HF had a couple of good games while here, but his talent didn't show often enough for me. Good luck to the lad, especially if we have a sell on clause, but id prefer someone in who's going to contribute more on a regular basis.
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I agree with nearly all that Jonathan .. but not that HF has great talent .He never put two good games back to back did he ?
Yes he does have very considerable talent it's just that he does not use it.
He is a difficult player to use because he is a luxury flair player and it's fitting him into a formation/system that most clubs will find difficult.
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It used to be called "humour" lads.
When someone comes on here claiming that Rangers are the WORLDS (sic) MOST SUCCESSFUL TEAM, it'd be dereliction of duty in a host not to join in that ridiculously OTT banter. You don't want him going back up there saying that we're a bunch of po-faced t**ts do you?
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I don't think there's any doubting the Rangers fanbase. Huge club, steeped in tradition. The Scottish league has limited quality without doubt, but success is relative to the level you're at. I loved our Conference cups, play offs, lower division title wins and JPT Trophy wins. The day I accept the jibes of plastic Manchester United fans that they're not meaningful titles because they're not the PL, FA Cup or Champions League will be the day I give up with football altogether. For any of us to sit and criticise the significance of the competitions that Rangers have won down the years is pretty sad in my opinion. They're a Scottish club in the Scottish leagues, they're not going to win the EPL or FA Cup!
It's a great move for HF to a club that will inevitably be back in European competition before long, and he gets to showcase his talents every other week on a truly great stage at Ibrox. Good luck to him, he has great talent. That performance against Coventry at home the previous Boxing Day was right up there with any individual display you could wish to see. He was unplayable. The fact he has that in his locker shows exactly what he can do. The fact that it's so easy to pinpoint his top performances also explains why very few will lose sleep over his departure.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he goes on to be a huge success, but he definitely needs to get his attitude, focus and commitment right for that to be consistently achieved. Will be interested to see how he gets on, and equally glad that we've freed up a considerable space on the wage bill for someone that might actually play.
Have a lot of plastic Man U fans commented on this Jonathan or were they just good for a knock anyway ? I disagree , how you can possibly compare the titles won by Man U , Liverpool, Real Madrid et al in hugely competitive leagues is quite frankly beyond me . Unusual because you are knocking invisible plastic ' non' fans to justify the hugeness of Rangers and their achievements in what realistically has been a 2 team league for over 100 years .
I'm just surprised that with their previous wherewithal that they didn't win a whole lot more.
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Looks like Harry might have a bit more competition for a starting place.
The mighty Rangers are on the verge of signing Midfielders Matt Crooks & Josh Windass from Accrington Stanley.
That'll have the locals salivating.
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They weren't too pleased about signing players from TLO Doncaster Rovers, what will they make of signings from TLO Accrington Stanley.......
P.S who are they? 😀
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They weren't too pleased about signing players from TLO Doncaster Rovers, what will they make of signings from TLO Accrington Stanley.......
P.S who are they? 😀
Both 21 ,Josh Widass son of Dean has scored 11 already this season already and has been attracting the attention of Arsenal.
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Is this fella any good?
Will be watching with interest. Perhaps you will let us know how it pans out !
The bloke looks to have the talent and ability to be a great Player and has changed games for us but could not / did not manage it again and again as the average fan like me would want to see
So for me the Jury is still out .... this move may be the making of him and good luck to him as he has everything (still) to play for. As for us I can see nothing but positives and as we have been without him for a fair while for reasons we can only guess at - imo we will not miss him and have already "moved on" as a Team / Club
Ill let you's know, seem like a good set of lads on here (wasn't expecting nice replies to being a Rangers fan to be honest haha)
Were on track to move back to where we belong playing in the top tier again so hopefully he can add some more spark to the team!
It's Celtic we don't like!
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Is this fella any good?
Will be watching with interest. Perhaps you will let us know how it pans out !
The bloke looks to have the talent and ability to be a great Player and has changed games for us but could not / did not manage it again and again as the average fan like me would want to see
So for me the Jury is still out .... this move may be the making of him and good luck to him as he has everything (still) to play for. As for us I can see nothing but positives and as we have been without him for a fair while for reasons we can only guess at - imo we will not miss him and have already "moved on" as a Team / Club
Ill let you's know, seem like a good set of lads on here (wasn't expecting nice replies to being a Rangers fan to be honest haha)
Were on track to move back to where we belong playing in the top tier again so hopefully he can add some more spark to the team!
It's Celtic we don't like!
Sectarianism is so 80s,keep up lad.
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Is this fella any good?
Will be watching with interest. Perhaps you will let us know how it pans out !
The bloke looks to have the talent and ability to be a great Player and has changed games for us but could not / did not manage it again and again as the average fan like me would want to see
So for me the Jury is still out .... this move may be the making of him and good luck to him as he has everything (still) to play for. As for us I can see nothing but positives and as we have been without him for a fair while for reasons we can only guess at - imo we will not miss him and have already "moved on" as a Team / Club
Ill let you's know, seem like a good set of lads on here (wasn't expecting nice replies to being a Rangers fan to be honest haha)
Were on track to move back to where we belong playing in the top tier again so hopefully he can add some more spark to the team!
It's Celtic we don't like!
Speak for yourself.
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I think this thread is one of the most shameful I have ever read on this forum.
BobG
Bold claim.
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Yes. And with reason.
BobG
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They weren't too pleased about signing players from TLO Doncaster Rovers, what will they make of signings from TLO Accrington Stanley.......
Hope you are drinking a pint of milk while saying that!!
P.S who are they? 😀
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We haven't really lost anything, because we never saw the best of Harry, we might rue it in the future though. The manager has taken the decision that's best for the whole team not just one individual.
There are a few interesting players at Rangers that could do a decent job for us.
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Update : Not been great so far, showed a few glimpses but is very very quick. Hopefully more to come from him currently not hacking it though.
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Can't say I'm surprised. What is it, not looking arsed?
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I saw his substitute appearance today in the cup, thought he did ok but nothing special. Had one half chance but snatched at it and put it well wide.
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Update : Not been great so far, showed a few glimpses but is very very quick. Hopefully more to come from him currently not hacking it though.
More like the defenders are very very slow
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Seen him on bt sports the other week. Why did we pay money for him. What did others see that i did not?
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He's no chance of getting in the Rangers first XI .
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Can't say I'm surprised. What is it, not looking arsed?
Actually looks quite the opposite to keen to impress.