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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Dare to dream! on February 01, 2016, 01:01:45 pm
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Leaves club by mutual consent
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We have freed up a few quid in wages today then.
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Odd would have expected to stay as a coach
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:scarf:
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Didn't expect this, he was just coming back to fitness
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Thanks for everything Rob.
Especially THAT season.
Never forget seeing you in the crowd at Brentford, with 2000 Rovers fans AND players singing your name.
Legend.
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That's two CB's gone, possibly, by the end of today. I certainly hope we've got someone seriously good lined up.
I think that's got to be the most sensible thing Rob's done, for the sake of his own health.
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F**k me!!!! That's a genuine shock! Gutted. Although realistically his playing days are behind him and probably for the best. But absolutely loved the bloke. A real giant of a man. All the best big man!
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Just been processing that as it filtered through Twitter. Didn't expect to ever read or see that...
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Top player for us & wish him all the best. Got to admire Fergies ruthless streak though.
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Gutted but I hope he is retiring. Basically for the good of his health throughout the rest of his life.
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Hugely influential in us winning the league. Solid as a rock that season. Stepped into the breach with Flynn to see us over the line. Stepped into the breech again when Dickov got the boot. Immense character, intense, but a born leader and winner on the pitch. He's respected at every club he's played at and ours will be no different. Top man.
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Whilst it's sad due to what he has achieved with us im glad it's happened. Can't carry passengers and unfortunately that's what he had become.
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He was a cult hero while he was here but was he here long enough to describe him as a legend?
I'd argue he was. That last-minute winner at Stevenage is still etched in my mind. He was our talisman on the back of that title-winning season. All the best to him in his career and his health. A shame we never got to see what he really was capable of as a manager as he picked up that shower of shite after Dickov went.
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It would be nice if we all got a chance to say goodbye/show appreciation for him. Maybe at tomorrow night's game. Legend.
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My hearts sunk reading that. My hero.
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Bit shocked he's been released of all duties. Wish him all the best.
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Hardly a surprise and the correct decision providing we now sign a replacement. I wish him all the best for the future.
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Someone else must be coming in today surely? Wellens, Forrester, Jones, Mackenzie (looks like) all gone. They would have all been solid earners and in replace we've had a few short-terms loans. Not proportional at the minute unless they're writing this season off and trying to save financially.
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Someone else must be coming in today surely? Wellens, Forrester, Jones, Mackenzie (looks like) all gone. They would have all been solid earners and in replace we've had a few short-terms loans. Not proportional at the minute unless they're writing this season off and trying to save financially.
all players that needed to leave. Good work IMO. Only leaves main, n'guessan, chaplow, marosi and maybe one or two of the ch's left to get rid of. As I said in an earlier post. The squad will look drastically different in the summer. Hopefully for the better.
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Would be good if we could get him on the pitch before kick-off tomorrow night to show our appreciation.
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Someone else must be coming in today surely? Wellens, Forrester, Jones, Mackenzie (looks like) all gone. They would have all been solid earners and in replace we've had a few short-terms loans. Not proportional at the minute unless they're writing this season off and trying to save financially.
all players that needed to leave. Good work IMO. Only leaves main, n'guessan, chaplow, marosi and maybe one or two of the ch's left to get rid of. As I said in an earlier post. The squad will look drastically different in the summer. Hopefully for the better.
Why Marosi?
We need a back up keeper as proven last Tuesday. He did ok didn't he? Not sure how you can recommend a player leaves who is there primarily to be on the bench as an emergency replacement as opposed to a tactical replacement?
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As Cramby10 has alluded too already, suspect this is the true start of the Fergie era. He's had a good look at his cards now and will have made decisons based on ability, fitness, longevity and finance.
Suspect we will see another raft of departures as we near the end of the season.
If this paves the way for bringing some quality players of his own choosing in over the summe then I am happy with that! :scarf:
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Wonder if we're going to switch back to 4 at the back?
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That last-minute winner at Stevenage is still etched in my mind. He was our talisman on the back of that title-winning season..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBV1blhLA9U
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A million thanks Rob. At your peak, playing at this level that needs guts & determination to succeed (& we did & will again) you were as good a centre half as Shackel.
All the best for your future, I'll be watching out for you.
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What a ridiculous decision!! An absolute legend at the club!! Whose decision is this DF's or the boards?? How skint are we if we're having to get rid of 2 of our CB's when our defense is already very very short of numbers!!
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Someone else must be coming in today surely? Wellens, Forrester, Jones, Mackenzie (looks like) all gone. They would have all been solid earners and in replace we've had a few short-terms loans. Not proportional at the minute unless they're writing this season off and trying to save financially.
all players that needed to leave. Good work IMO. Only leaves main, n'guessan, chaplow, marosi and maybe one or two of the ch's left to get rid of. As I said in an earlier post. The squad will look drastically different in the summer. Hopefully for the better.
Why Marosi?
We need a back up keeper as proven last Tuesday. He did ok didn't he? Not sure how you can recommend a player leaves who is there primarily to be on the bench as an emergency replacement as opposed to a tactical replacement?
dont rate him. Not big enough. Just my opinion. If new gk starts tues then clearly not trusted. If not, what's the point in being here?? Surely gk's need pressure put on them by another to perform to keep their place!
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What a ridiculous decision!! An absolute legend at the club!! Whose decision is this DF's or the boards?? How skint are we if we're having to get rid of 2 of our CB's when our defense is already very very short of numbers!!
What does it matter who's decision it was?
We've only got rid of one defender in effect, Jones was nowhere near fitness
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What a ridiculous decision!! An absolute legend at the club!! Whose decision is this DF's or the boards?? How skint are we if we're having to get rid of 2 of our CB's when our defense is already very very short of numbers!!
Is it?
Now I was a big fan of Rob Jones. In fact I'd go as far to say he dragged us to the League 1 title the other year, however he's certainly long past his best and is far too injury prone. I'd have been dissapointed to see him playing first team games for us.
We certainly shouldn't be retaining him because he's a legend at the club.
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What a ridiculous decision!! An absolute legend at the club!! Whose decision is this DF's or the boards?? How skint are we if we're having to get rid of 2 of our CB's when our defense is already very very short of numbers!!
To much of a risk to keep with his ongoing neck problem,i dont think the board will have had anything to do with his leaving.But have a little dig anyway.
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There is no sympathy in football. Just look at what Liverpool did with Tommy Smith, gave him a painkilling injection until they wanted him no longer, he then ended in a wheelchair. When you are not wanted you are gone.
Thanks Rob for all you have done at Doncaster Rovers, I hope the rest of your career will be as successful.
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U would have been disappointed to see him play first team games for us! Now that is the most ridiculous statement I think I have ever heard? Why would you have been disappointed?? We should be retaining him because we havexpect one fit CB in the whole squad as it stands so to get rid of one who is near to fitness and also Mackenzie if he does end up going for me is just ludicrous!
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A bit of a shock given his coaching role but I'm not surprised that he hasn't got a place in DF's playing squad plans.
I too hope that we get to say goodbye to him tomorrow night. He's a proud and determined bloke so I wouldn't be surprised if he's feeling the sting right now. Hope he gets himself a job in football somewhere. He is a great example to any aspiring young player.
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Thanks for everything, Corporal.
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Wonder if Scunthorpe are beckoning?
I doubt he would have played again for Rovers in the formation that DF prefers even allowing for his neck problems
HOWEVER
What a leader on the pitch, grit and determination and didn't suffer fools.
All the best Rob what ever the future is
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Leader on the pitch but he has to be fit enough to be out there
Thanks RJ for your time here and best wishes wherever your future may lay
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By mutual consent would suggest to me the club have released RJ to pursue another role somewhere else, possibly at his request, rather than him being shown the door.
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By mutual consent would suggest to me the club have released RJ to pursue another role somewhere else, possibly at his request, rather than him being shown the door.
That's what DF said on radio Sheffield interview. He wants to play football not ready just to coach. Therefore not been guarenteed a playing place he he decided to try elsewhere.
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Good luck Rob Jones. Massive influence and a thoroughly good bloke. Has the credentials to become a good manager somewhere.
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Simply thank you Rob. One of the best leaders of men on the pitch I have seen in my 30 years of supporting and a truly outstanding professional. The determination of that man was there for all to see, like many have said before, would we have won the league that year without him, I strongly doubt it. All the very best in whatever he does next. Gutted that he has gone, but Fergie must be allowed to build his team.
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I read earlier (forget if it was the official statement or elsewhere) that he wanted to continue playing and Fergie allowed him to leave to do so.
Shame really, as I thought he could've been a backroom figure for years to come - particularly with the reserves - but there we go.
What a man. What a legend.
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Some players can earn iconic status in a very short time with a very big impact. Rob Jones did that. He got the club and the fans and led by towering example.
It would be nice to get an opportunity to thank him for everything he's given to the club. It's a transient game but some players leave a big impression on their way through. Good luck Rob Jones.
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Rob has been described earlier in this post as
Immense character, intense, born leader.
I'm not sure that these are the qualities that Fergie is comfortable with.
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A mistake IMO...... I hope that Rob gets picked up by another team - good luck big man..
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Shame ! I thought he might have stayed on with the coaching side of things. For once (almost) everyone on here is in agreement :)
Good luck Rob, thanks & please don't play again !
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An absolute leader in the year we won League One. Real shame that injuries have knackered up what could have been a good three or four years at Doncaster. Good luck to him with whatever he does.
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Yes I am sure we would not have won the league 1 title without him, and probably wouldn't have even got promotion that season. After all he scored 8 vital league goals that season and not many centre backs score 8 in a season.
A true leader on the pitch in every sense of the word.
Good luck for the future Rob. A true DRFC legend.
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Think this was always on the cards since having the interim position but not getting the job permanently. Was always going to leave him in a difficult position. Wish him all the best: never gave anything less than 100% for the club. Wellens & Forrester should take note!
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How many managers (in all walks of life) do you know that would feel comfortable with a "legend" looking over their shoulder? Especially a "legend" with a mind of his own, a fierce determination and who had previously done the job?
There are some who could cope with I aaccept. But not many. No matter how it's dressed up, I think DF will be glad to be shot of Rob. I read somewhere that Rob was 'told' he was surplus to requirements back at Christmas time. Don't know if that's true or not, but if it is, it would reinforce the suggestion on here by a few people that DF is ruthless.
Cheers
BobG
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Don't really buy any of this to be honest.
He helped manage the club to promotion. Then Dickov got brought in. He had a stint as manager. Then Ferguson got brought in.
Difficult to take that many knocks and end up coaching kids in the background.
Will want a fresh start where he can get out of the shadows.
If you could bottle his passion and commitment. Strong in tackle and strong in thought. Totally controlled and disciplined.
Great guy and good luck.
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It's the right decision, he wanted to play, he wasn't getting a game, plus the manager might not have wanted him in his coaching set up, good luck to him and thanks for giving everything you had!. :scarf: :thumbsup:
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Good luck Corporal! I hope he gets a chance to play again until his injury means he has to give up. He obviously loves the game and would be a real asset to any league 2 team. I hope we get one more chance to sing his song tonight - a lap of the pitch at the start/half time will have the KMS rocking and add to the atmosphere!
:scarf: :byebye: :scarf:
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Maybe a few changes to the song..
We had Jones, Jones
He had the power to score
He's not indestructible
Good luck to him anyway, great leader, great player.
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He's not a happy bunny:
http://m.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/rovers-news/exclusive-rob-jones-disappointed-at-rovers-exit-1-7709466
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He clearly wanted to stay and get back playing again. But he also clearly doesn't fit into Ferguson's plans.
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Pleasing to see a manager that's so ruthless. We can't carry passengers if the budget is that tight and Jones had become a passenger.
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Quick question. Do we know or think that Jones is now fit for first team action?
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Quick question. Do we know or think that Jones is now fit for first team action?
I don't think he is. Even he admitted that. He was hoping to play for the Development Squad later this week. He would probably need a couple of games with them before he was anywhere near the match day squad.
Incidentally Ferguson also wanted to loan N'guessan out but he's injured. To me, this is less to do with cutting costs and more to do with moving on players that don't fit in to future plans.
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sentiment clouding peoples judgement again......Yes Rob jones has been absolutely huge for this club and we owe him a lot for the passion commitment he put into our cause..However like Terry at Chelsea descisions have to be made especially when money is tight...He cant stay fit and has been out for a long time now apart from the odd comeback which he breaks down in...As for his coaching skills well it hasn't really happened has it..And DF seems to think the gap can be filled easily..So his time had come and rightly so as he was costing more than he contributed...Would have loved to have seen him at the keepmoat tonight though for one last time before he heads off to pastures new..
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One round of Always Believe in Rob Jones before the game?
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The job of coaching the development squad at Rovers isn't a full time one. The development players train with the first team anyway and the rest of the side is made up of youth teamers.
It is an ideal part-time job for a player who wants to move into coaching. So once the decision had been made that Rob wasn't going to be needed as a player, there wasn't really a job for him as a coach.
I expect Gavin Strachan or Paul Stancliffe will take over the development side pro-tem. If there is another senior player who wants to try his hand at coaching, or has maybe started doing his badges, he may be brought in to assist.
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Quick question. Do we know or think that Jones is now fit for first team action?
I don't think he is. Even he admitted that. He was hoping to play for the Development Squad later this week. He would probably need a couple of games with them before he was anywhere near the match day squad.
Incidentally Ferguson also wanted to loan N'guessan out but he's injured. To me, this is less to do with cutting costs and more to do with moving on players that don't fit in to future plans.
thanks
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Should sentiment exist in football management decisions? Disappointing the RJ has left the way he has, like most I would love to have given Corporal a big send off and say thanks for everything :byebye:. On the other hand if DF doesn't free up money then he cant bring new players in, and 1 point could cost us an important position, and DF his job. But its hard to criticise players for forcing clubs hands to sell them when they ultimately will get slung out the back door when it suits the club.
John Terry is a prime example - no surprise at his age he's not been offered another contract, but the way the club has treated him and handled the situation, does not encourage loyalty in other players.
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One round of Always Believe in Rob Jones before the game?
5th minute? Shirt number...
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Should sentiment exist in football management decisions? Disappointing the RJ has left the way he has, like most I would love to have given Corporal a big send off and say thanks for everything :byebye:. On the other hand if DF doesn't free up money then he cant bring new players in, and 1 point could cost us an important position, and DF his job. But its hard to criticise players for forcing clubs hands to sell them when they ultimately will get slung out the back door when it suits the club.
John Terry is a prime example - no surprise at his age he's not been offered another contract, but the way the club has treated him and handled the situation, does not encourage loyalty in other players.
In jones interview he stated that DF told him he would be made available for loan not long after he came in..Thats understandable as despite the conspiracy theories we cant be basing our defence around a slow 35 year old injury prone c/b...So in fairness He would have had a inkling it was coming..Also by doing it yesterday it allows Jones to sign for somebody as a free agent..The only thing I can really criticise the club for is not making more of tonights game for him...DF isn't afraid to make tough descisions unlike Dickov else I would suspect the likes of Wellens and Jones would have gone before the season started...
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Should sentiment exist in football management decisions? Disappointing the RJ has left the way he has, like most I would love to have given Corporal a big send off and say thanks for everything :byebye:. On the other hand if DF doesn't free up money then he cant bring new players in, and 1 point could cost us an important position, and DF his job. But its hard to criticise players for forcing clubs hands to sell them when they ultimately will get slung out the back door when it suits the club.
John Terry is a prime example - no surprise at his age he's not been offered another contract, but the way the club has treated him and handled the situation, does not encourage loyalty in other players.
In jones interview he stated that DF told him he would be made available for loan not long after he came in..Thats understandable as despite the conspiracy theories we cant be basing our defence around a slow 35 year old injury prone c/b...So in fairness He would have had a inkling it was coming..Also by doing it yesterday it allows Jones to sign for somebody as a free agent..The only thing I can really criticise the club for is not making more of tonights game for him...DF isn't afraid to make tough descisions unlike Dickov else I would suspect the likes of Wellens and Jones would have gone before the season started...
Wellens and Jones wanted to go for different reasons which helped DF decision making. With all the players signed by PD contracted till 2017 it will be harder to shift them.
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I don't think Fergie is comfortable with certain sorts of characters - just like his old man he gets shut of personalities that clash with his own. This is not meant as a criticism (after all his old man was quite good) since his job depends upon getting players to play his way.
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Should sentiment exist in football management decisions? Disappointing the RJ has left the way he has, like most I would love to have given Corporal a big send off and say thanks for everything :byebye:. On the other hand if DF doesn't free up money then he cant bring new players in, and 1 point could cost us an important position, and DF his job. But its hard to criticise players for forcing clubs hands to sell them when they ultimately will get slung out the back door when it suits the club.
John Terry is a prime example - no surprise at his age he's not been offered another contract, but the way the club has treated him and handled the situation, does not encourage loyalty in other players.
In jones interview he stated that DF told him he would be made available for loan not long after he came in..Thats understandable as despite the conspiracy theories we cant be basing our defence around a slow 35 year old injury prone c/b...So in fairness He would have had a inkling it was coming..Also by doing it yesterday it allows Jones to sign for somebody as a free agent..The only thing I can really criticise the club for is not making more of tonights game for him...DF isn't afraid to make tough descisions unlike Dickov else I would suspect the likes of Wellens and Jones would have gone before the season started...
Agreed, our 3 at the back lacks pace as it is, Jones just would n't fit into a back three, I also think a back 3 doesn't suit LM either because of his lack of pace
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Sentiment has no part to play in football, i wanted a decisive manager and that's what we have got. ''start being decisive on our defence now, there's more leaks in it, than a dam that just been bombed by a load of lancaster bombers''!.
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Sentiment has no part to play in football
That's one of my least favourite cliches. Actually sentiment has everything to do with football. Love and support for a team is driven by sentiment, belonging, irrational dreaming. Perhaps sentiment shouldn't influence management decisions, but for fans to detach themselves from sentiment is nonsensical. To view the journey of the club in an entirely clinical manner would surely drain all the enjoyment from it.
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Sentiment has no part to play in football
That's one of my least favourite cliches. Actually sentiment has everything to do with football. Love and support for a team is driven by sentiment, belonging, irrational dreaming. Perhaps sentiment shouldn't influence management decisions, but for fans to detach themselves from sentiment is nonsensical. To view the journey of the club in an entirely clinical manner would surely drain all the enjoyment from it.
I should have said where the managers job is involved, there should be no sentiment with the players, us fans sentiment does play a big part.
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I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere but the subject of RJ was brought up at the MTO tonight. Essentially Rob wanted to continue playing, we couldn't guarantee him that, plus he wasn't fit and had only trained a couple of times in the last 3 months because of his injuries. Therefore an easy decision to make?
Edit: and he had to go by 11am otherwise he couldn't have signed for another club.
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I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere but the subject of RJ was brought up at the MTO tonight. Essentially Rob wanted to continue playing, we couldn't guarantee him that, plus he wasn't fit and had only trained a couple of times in the last 3 months because of his injuries. Therefore an easy decision to make?
Edit: and he had to go by 11am otherwise he couldn't have signed for another club.
Thanks SM, I think that clears up a few misconceptions.
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It's obvious Fergie didn't fancy him.
Why try and gloss over that?
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http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/rovers-news/exclusive-interview-rob-jones-leaves-rovers-with-his-head-held-high-1-7720042
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At least he has been allowed to have his say. Well done DFP
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An excellent servant to the club
But should have gone last season
Thankfully we are getting rid of dead wood
Many many more to go
Unfortunately we have neglected this process nothing thrives till the dead wood is cut away
However this season has gone and success is not getting relegateFergie is a breadth of fresh air thank you at ladt
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It's obvious Fergie didn't fancy him.
Why try and gloss over that?
Not the best looking player lifelong but always gave his best.........unfortunately his best is now not good enough
Correct decision by both parties I think
Can understand DF not wanting a former manager who didn't get his job at the club (been there and had to sack the guy)
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He's come back after a few injuries and proven that he's still good enough, that's not the the issue, it's that he's not physically possible for him to carry on playing as he'll just keep injuring his neck and that isn't good for him or the club.
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This lad is 36 injury prone and slow can not pass. His strengh was heading the ball he is not able to do that anymore. I stand by our manager on this
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It would be a poor reflection of the positive sentiments expressed about Rob if all he gets is a song from Black Bank . I think we should offer him something he can put in his trophy cabinet as a permanent reminder and mark of gratitude and respect from Rovers fans .
I leave it to the forum to chose yes or no and if yes then , what ! I will leave a starter of £25 with the club ( Gavin ) this coming weekend in the hope we can raise £250 for a nice trophy for Rob .
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I can donate £10 as of Friday if we get something arranged.