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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Donnyjim on April 30, 2016, 09:17:28 am

Title: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: Donnyjim on April 30, 2016, 09:17:28 am
You can guess my vote.
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 30, 2016, 09:18:57 am
At the moment no. If we win the last 2 and finish above at least 2 teams then yes.
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: IDM on April 30, 2016, 09:21:29 am
What a stupid question!

If we finish the season in the relegation places, or are relegated later this weekend when Fleetwood play on Monday, then yes, we deserve to go down.

If we finish outside the bottom 4 we deserve to stay up.

The table doesn't lie!!

But the table isn't complete yet, is it?
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: Donnywolf on April 30, 2016, 09:25:35 am
What a stupid question!

If we finish the season in the relegation places, or are relegated later this weekend when Fleetwood play on Monday, then yes, we deserve to go down.

If we finish outside the bottom 4 we deserve to stay up.

The table doesn't lie!!

But the table isn't complete yet, is it?

What an absolutely sensible post IDM ! 100% correct imo
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: Donnyjim on April 30, 2016, 09:32:14 am
Quite a simple question I thought? One requiring a meer yes or no answer?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: IDM on April 30, 2016, 09:50:03 am
Quite a simple question I thought? One requiring a meer yes or no answer?  :facepalm:

But it is an unnecessary question!  Maybe I should have used that word instead of "stupid" but that's just semantics.

In individual games we may not get the result the performance may have deserved, but over a season the table represents where we deserve to be.  Therefore the question cannot be answered until the season is complete and is then irrelevant.
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: Donnywolf on April 30, 2016, 09:50:26 am
Quite a simple question I thought? One requiring a meer yes or no answer?  :facepalm:

I agree it IS a simple question and I reckon IDM has provided the perfect answer. That is if we go down we deserve it ... if we stay up we deserve it
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: bally1950 on April 30, 2016, 09:56:15 am
Over the Complete season
"NO"

And that is the fact that matters
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: wilts rover on April 30, 2016, 10:15:34 am
You dont need a poll - we will know in two weeks time, deservedly or not.
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: keith79 on April 30, 2016, 10:18:56 am
If we get enough points then yes.
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on April 30, 2016, 11:01:12 am
this division is ruined by the at a stroke "elastoplast" CURRENT loans system where you can play 5 of them

if you look at the permanent players on Rovers books -- the answer is no

trouble is if you do the same for the rest of  the clubs in that division

then most of them deserve to get relegated
chesterfield beat shrewsbury 7-1 not long ago jan 2

next day everyone went on the transfer list

and they begged and borrowed players (even wellens) got man u in the facup  generating £-s-d

so to conclude "the final table" is the only thing that counts or should i say the "final-final table"
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: no eyed deer on April 30, 2016, 11:24:05 am
Quite a simple question I thought? One requiring a meer yes or no answer?  :facepalm:
It's is but your not part of the in crowd.
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: i_ateallthepies on April 30, 2016, 11:45:39 am
Over the Complete season
"NO"

And that is the fact that matters

It's an opinion and matters only to you.
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: IDM on April 30, 2016, 11:50:52 am
Over the Complete season
"NO"

And that is the fact that matters

Is the season complete yet?
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: Chris Black come back on April 30, 2016, 12:01:57 pm
Points aside (the only real measure) we definitely deserve to go down. The players we have would be envy of some of clubs down in the shit and even with that advantage we have been miserable for huge chunks of season. Can't view 46 games through prism of last three. Whatever happens this has been a truly awful season.
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: IDM on April 30, 2016, 12:17:43 pm
Points aside (the only real measure) we definitely deserve to go down. The players we have would be envy of some of clubs down in the shit and even with that advantage we have been miserable for huge chunks of season. Can't view 46 games through prism of last three. Whatever happens this has been a truly awful season.

Even so, if we do finish outside the bottom four then we do deserve to stay up.  If not, we don't..

Everyone can have an opinion on where weshould have finished, but we will deserve to finish where we finish!
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on April 30, 2016, 01:29:09 pm
It's like when the Chinese communist leader Zhou Enlai was asked in the 1970s whether he thought the French Revolution,two centuries previously had been successful. He replied,  "It's too soon to tell."
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: IDM on April 30, 2016, 01:41:23 pm
Quite a simple question I thought? One requiring a meer yes or no answer?  :facepalm:
It's is but your not part of the in crowd.

I'm not in any in crowd, I speak for myself thankyouverymuch!
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: mrfrostsdad on April 30, 2016, 02:38:51 pm
Personally, I don't give a flying **** wether we deserve to go down or not, as long as we stay up.
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: mrfrostsdad on April 30, 2016, 02:41:45 pm
But to answer the question: yes we probably deserve to go down. We have been absolutely abysmal for most of the season.
As I said in a previous thread: we're not world beaters by any stretch of the imagination, but we shouldn't be in this position with the players we have. I'm not someone who thinks we're a top 10 side, nowhere near it, but we should t get relegated
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: Chris Black come back on April 30, 2016, 02:55:44 pm
It's like when the Chinese communist leader Zhou Enlai was asked in the 1970s whether he thought the French Revolution,two centuries previously had been successful. He replied,  "It's too soon to tell."

Point of Order. He actually thought he was being asked about the May '68 Paris riots and gave what was an appropriate answer when questioned in 1972. Still a good yarn though.

Yours, A.Pedant
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: rich1471 on April 30, 2016, 04:21:41 pm
After what cedric just did no, it was shocking defending
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: grayx on April 30, 2016, 05:22:45 pm
NO
And the manager should now go.
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: dknward2 on April 30, 2016, 05:26:47 pm
After today yes down we go and should aswell
Title: Re: Do we deserve to stay up
Post by: IDM on April 30, 2016, 07:16:35 pm
No, we do not deserve to stay up - it will take a miracle of results and goal difference wing to stay up, so no, the table doesn't lie, we haven't been good enough all season.