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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Bessie Red on January 12, 2017, 04:47:32 pm
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Rovers look to be signing goalkeeper Ian Lawlor on 2 and half year deal!!
He is currently at Man City.
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I thought a number of clubs were in for him?
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Irish Sun stating its a done deal
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https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/422171/irish-goalkeeper-ian-lawlor-set-to-cut-ties-with-manchester-city-and-join-doncaster-rovers/
Though having lived in Ireland since 2000 and up to 2014 I wouldn't say its reliable source of information.
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Anyone know if he is he any relation to Kit and Jimmy Lawlor who played for us in the 1950's? They all seem to be from Dublin.
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So 3 keepers all aged 22.
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According to the local rag in Bristol he's signing for a different Rovers
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He fits in with what Fergie said he was looking for, Competition then he would decide who starts. It almost told you it wasn't going to be an experienced keeper who would expect to start. Never heard of the fella, let's hope he's a good one. It makes sense rather than bringing short term experienced players in the rebuilding of our squad continues.
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According to the local rag in Bristol he's signing for a different Rovers
Shamrock Rovers?
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You can read more here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Lawlor
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He seems to have let in quite a lot of goals last season. Might not be his fault, of course.
http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=76214&season_id=145
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If he played for HOME FARM, he will be no slouch, he also moved to City again no slouch.. On Etheridge, just a point that he may just follow the same path as Marosi and be second choice for a long spell, Marosi took his time over his current contract but by the hell the goalkeeping coaches have certainly done their job.. I believe that Etheridge may have to follow the same path but if it works for him then he will be a far better keeper. If we sign Lawlor then we do. Nothing coming from Donny at the moment but no surprises there as Conor GRant's arrival was kept quiet as Mr F stated, it was kept quiet so Stevenage could not prepare for him.
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Regardless, we should play Etheridge on Saturday - his only way to maintain confidence is to play. It is a long time now since that Wycombe game??
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According to the local rag in Bristol he's signing for a different Rovers
That's states it would be a loan deal. The article in the Irish Sun is stating its a two & half year contract with Donny.
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I think we have two good one's in Etheridge and Marosi. They both have work to do on improving some aspects of their game-that's to be expected at this level. Marosi is one of our biggest surprises in how well he has done.
Lawlor hopefully adds to what we already have in quality plus young Jones who when fit can now maybe have a loan spell for a bit of experience.
I prefer to be honest that he has gone for somebody who has improvement in them rather than an experienced guy.
When i think about it we have all the experience we need to bring them on in Paul Gerrard. I thought before we needed experience, long term it's better to do it this way.
As Bally said starting at Home Farm then being recruited by City tells you he has something. It's just lack of opportunities more than likely due to those in front of him. Whoever starts the games i think we will be alright.
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Maybe just stick Gerrard on the bench
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If this story is true, what's a 4th division club doing with 4 professional goalkeepers? Who's going to end up being shipped out?
BobG
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He seems to have let in quite a lot of goals last season. Might not be his fault, of course.
http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=76214&season_id=145
It can't have gone unnoticed that Marosi has let in quite a few goals so far this season, compared to other teams in the top half of our division, but we are all gutted that he is potentially out for the rest of the season.
Irrespective of individual players feelings though, DF has to play the keeper that he feels is the most benefit to the team.
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If this story is true, what's a 4th division club doing with 4 professional goalkeepers? Who's going to end up being shipped out?
BobG
Three, Bob. Jones is a 2nd year YT. Also one of the three is out for 3 months.
I must admit I thought a loan was more likely than a permanent signing.
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I know one is out knackered John. But 4 goalies is still quite a lot... But as you educated me about Jones it's actually 3 goalies and a YTS lad. That's ok until they're all fit. Once that happens, surely it's too many to have on the books permanently?
Cheers :)
Bob
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Fergie has a fair few on the wage bill now. I suspect a few will be going out at least on loan. Some he can't loan out ofcourse because they are injured. If Lawlor comes in i would make that twenty nine professionals on the books, that is a lot for this level.
A few of them are graduates from the youth side but most are professionals on decent wages. The way the injuries have gone he hasn't had much choice.
I would expect Evina to join somebody in this window. Though i don't understand why he isn't retained and used as an alternative playing wide left. Keegan might go out during this window to free up wages and rely on Middleton as back up. Though i don't think he will let Keegan leave with the experience he has not after last year.
We still have Marosi, Lund, McCullough, McSheffrey, Taylor-Sinclair and Jones injured, half a team just in injuries. We have twenty eight pro's, more if you add Fielding-five unavailable so that takes us to twenty three available-three of those only with Checkatrade appearances and two in May and Beestin who are relatively inexperienced at this level.
He is having to try and cover everything that could happen just in this window-not easy.
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This sounds like agent talk to lever a move for his player. I very much doubt the detail of 2 1/2 years would be known.
Well, his names been circulated now.
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Why would Keegan go, if he is currently a regular in the matchday squad?
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Signed permanent until 2019 according to Yorkshire post
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Signed permanent until 2019 according to Yorkshire post
It appears that article has been removed as I can't see it. Maybe they accidentally released it a little early. Think if we got this guy it would be a brilliant signing, be a lot of competition once Marosi was back fit.
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I have just looked on the News now site and it has a link but seems to not work now.
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Confirmed on Rovers twitter
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Signs on a 2 and a half year deal
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http://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/lawlor-signs-on-3516195.aspx
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http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/ian-lawlor-who-is-the-manchester-city-goalkeeper-being-linked-with-league-one-bristol-rovers/story-30052904-detail/story.html
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This is showing some real intent. Now we're sitting on top of the league, you get the feeling Fergie and the directors are doing all they can to ensure we stay there.
We can't take anything for granted - and there are many more points to play for - but this is a positive move!
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I'm gobsmacked by this and cant get my head around it tbh....A loan I could understand but a permanent ??? That means that either Marosi wont get a new deal which is baffling or that he has already made up his mind that he's dropped a clanger with Ross...A club our size cant carry 4 keepers on the books that's for sure so one of our current 2 senior keepers will be on there way in the summer....Bad decision for me but I'm biased because I think Marosi could go far....
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Great to be able to get a player of this sort of pedigree on a permanent deal. hopefully he can come on as a player with us as we come on as a team :scarf:
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I'm gobsmacked by this and cant get my head around it tbh....A loan I could understand but a permanent ??? That means that either Marosi wont get a new deal which is baffling or that he has already made up his mind that he's dropped a clanger with Ross...A club our size cant carry 4 keepers on the books that's for sure so one of our current 2 senior keepers will be on there way in the summer....Bad decision for me but I'm biased because I think Marosi could go far....
I'm with you. Odd signing seeing as we've got two young keepers as it is. We just needed a loan till the end of the season.
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I'm gobsmacked by this and cant get my head around it tbh....A loan I could understand but a permanent ??? That means that either Marosi wont get a new deal which is baffling or that he has already made up his mind that he's dropped a clanger with Ross...A club our size cant carry 4 keepers on the books that's for sure so one of our current 2 senior keepers will be on there way in the summer....Bad decision for me but I'm biased because I think Marosi could go far....
I think its a combination of both. Etheridge just hasn't performed and we have seen whilst Fergie has been here, he isn't afraid to admit he may have done the wrong thing. Evina's new deal is another example. For me, Marosi will make a great back up keeper as we hopefully go up the leagues. He has been great this season don't get me wrong but his relatively small size and presence for a keeper has always worried me, especially if we were to climb up the divisions.
At 6ft 4 and 22 with a bit of international experiance, Lawlor is in a great position to become a good keeper.
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The Irish Sun knew.
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It's all them leprachauns they have for breakfast.
BobG
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tlMwPOuP0y8
Looks shocking on this video and these are his best bits!
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I'm gobsmacked by this and cant get my head around it tbh....A loan I could understand but a permanent ??? That means that either Marosi wont get a new deal which is baffling or that he has already made up his mind that he's dropped a clanger with Ross...A club our size cant carry 4 keepers on the books that's for sure so one of our current 2 senior keepers will be on there way in the summer....Bad decision for me but I'm biased because I think Marosi could go far....
I think its a combination of both. Etheridge just hasn't performed and we have seen whilst Fergie has been here, he isn't afraid to admit he may have done the wrong thing. Evina's new deal is another example. For me, Marosi will make a great back up keeper as we hopefully go up the leagues. He has been great this season don't get me wrong but his relatively small size and presence for a keeper has always worried me, especially if we were to climb up the divisions.
At 6ft 4 and 22 with a bit of international experiance, Lawlor is in a great position to become a good keeper.
Well I disagree,i think Marosi has everything he needs to be a top keeper..He's a great shot stopper,something we haven't had for a long time..His handling has come on leaps and bounds and his distribution has come on,he is more than capable of being a top league 1 keeper and wont have any desire to be back up anymore..He's done that to learn his trade...We have a budget same as everyone else and have to make the best use of it...And I simply don't see how this signing falls into that...
I've always been a fan of DF,but I don't think he knows a good keeper if he bumped into him....We just needed a loan till the end of the season,see how Etheridge does with the loan as back up if he struggles and then look at it in the summer.....To sign someone permanent now will knock the others confidence...For once I would have preferred the board to have refused this deal....
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I'm gobsmacked by this and cant get my head around it tbh....A loan I could understand but a permanent ??? That means that either Marosi wont get a new deal which is baffling or that he has already made up his mind that he's dropped a clanger with Ross...A club our size cant carry 4 keepers on the books that's for sure so one of our current 2 senior keepers will be on there way in the summer....Bad decision for me but I'm biased because I think Marosi could go far....
I think its a combination of both. Etheridge just hasn't performed and we have seen whilst Fergie has been here, he isn't afraid to admit he may have done the wrong thing. Evina's new deal is another example. For me, Marosi will make a great back up keeper as we hopefully go up the leagues. He has been great this season don't get me wrong but his relatively small size and presence for a keeper has always worried me, especially if we were to climb up the divisions.
At 6ft 4 and 22 with a bit of international experiance, Lawlor is in a great position to become a good keeper.
Well I disagree,i think Marosi has everything he needs to be a top keeper..He's a great shot stopper,something we haven't had for a long time..His handling has come on leaps and bounds and his distribution has come on,he is more than capable of being a top league 1 keeper and wont have any desire to be back up anymore..He's done that to learn his trade...We have a budget same as everyone else and have to make the best use of it...And I simply don't see how this signing falls into that...
I've always been a fan of DF,but I don't think he knows a good keeper if he bumped into him....We just needed a loan till the end of the season,see how Etheridge does with the loan as back up if he struggles and then look at it in the summer.....To sign someone permanent now will knock the others confidence...For once I would have preferred the board to have refused this deal....
If it knocks their confidence they don't have the right mentality to make it anyway. Especially as a goalkeeper.
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It's a wonder anyone signs for us with the welcome they get on here, kicked in the teeth before they get the shirt on.
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It's a wonder anyone signs for us with the welcome they get on here, kicked in the teeth before they get the shirt on.
I was just thinking the same.
I'm always amused how people second guess the thinking pattern of the club/directors/managers and then when all is revealed....silence! It takes up so much energy.
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It's a wonder anyone signs for us with the welcome they get on here, kicked in the teeth before they get the shirt on.
This must be the first place they look after they sign as well.
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This sounds like agent talk to lever a move for his player. I very much doubt the detail of 2 1/2 years would be known.
Well, his names been circulated now.
Wtf do I know. Not a lot!
Welcome young man. Good luck!
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He get's a big welcome from me.
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Lawlor might be capable of actually commanding his area and leaping up to catch crosses something that Marosi never does.
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My understanding is that if the right goalkeeper came along they would sign him up, and if he didn't then they would have bided their time. They obviously think this lad is the right one.
Welcome!
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My understanding is that if the right goalkeeper came along they would sign him up, and if he didn't then they would have bided their time. They obviously think this lad is the right one.
Welcome!
So do these!
https://youtu.be/eJK-N8joVPk
Lad cant half save a penno!
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It's a wonder anyone signs for us with the welcome they get on here, kicked in the teeth before they get the shirt on.
No one's said anything bad about him.
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Looks like he's got a bit of arrogance about him. Likes a punch!
Good penalty saves and shows he thinks and studies his opponents.
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I find it incredibly exciting the fact that we have signed a player of this calibre and that our board clearly have full trust in Fergie and the plan that he has for this team. Yes having 3 keepers on the books is perhaps a bit extreme but when you have a player like this available than it is obviously too good an opportunity to miss out on. Well done Fergie and the Board!
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His distribution will have been a big thing for Fergie. Marosi's isn't very good.
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I'm gobsmacked by this and cant get my head around it tbh....A loan I could understand but a permanent ??? That means that either Marosi wont get a new deal which is baffling or that he has already made up his mind that he's dropped a clanger with Ross...A club our size cant carry 4 keepers on the books that's for sure so one of our current 2 senior keepers will be on there way in the summer....Bad decision for me but I'm biased because I think Marosi could go far....
I think its a combination of both. Etheridge just hasn't performed and we have seen whilst Fergie has been here, he isn't afraid to admit he may have done the wrong thing. Evina's new deal is another example. For me, Marosi will make a great back up keeper as we hopefully go up the leagues. He has been great this season don't get me wrong but his relatively small size and presence for a keeper has always worried me, especially if we were to climb up the divisions.
At 6ft 4 and 22 with a bit of international experiance, Lawlor is in a great position to become a good keeper.
Well I disagree,i think Marosi has everything he needs to be a top keeper..He's a great shot stopper,something we haven't had for a long time..His handling has come on leaps and bounds and his distribution has come on,he is more than capable of being a top league 1 keeper and wont have any desire to be back up anymore..He's done that to learn his trade...We have a budget same as everyone else and have to make the best use of it...And I simply don't see how this signing falls into that...
I've always been a fan of DF,but I don't think he knows a good keeper if he bumped into him....We just needed a loan till the end of the season,see how Etheridge does with the loan as back up if he struggles and then look at it in the summer.....To sign someone permanent now will knock the others confidence...For once I would have preferred the board to have refused this deal....
If it knocks their confidence they don't have the right mentality to make it anyway. Especially as a goalkeeper.
Most Keepers are good shot stoppers, its the first thing they learn. You have to have much more than that the higher the division you go. Totally agree on the comment about confidence. Keepers need to have thick skin and if you don't have that you aren't going to get far in the game realistically.
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Looks like he's got a bit of arrogance about him. Likes a punch!
Good penalty saves and shows he thinks and studies his opponents.
I think arrogance is a good trait in a keeper, most of the top keepers have in the past.
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It's a wonder anyone signs for us with the welcome they get on here, kicked in the teeth before they get the shirt on.
Then your misunderstand my point...I wasnt discussing him personally ,i've never seen him play to make a judgement on him..I was discussing the position at the club as to the budget we operate, and if we get there League 1...it's getting the best value....
Someone will have to go in the summer and that's probably going to be Marosi as he's out of contract and easiest to move on...And he's a player I rate higher than most on here obviously...
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Good signing. Think Etheridge will go. Now Russ Wilcox is in charge of recruitment we're getting rid of crap and getting decent players in.
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Marosi is an excellent shot stopper but he does not command his 6 yard box in the air. He is very weak in that department.
I see Lawler as a very astute signing as we go up the leagues.
Time will tel but as of now very well done to DF and the board.
They are showing the ambition I said they would.
I notice all the negativity towards the board has gone extremely quiet on here.
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Seems a good signing and we needed a keeper so all is good, the negativity towards the board has gone as they have done what the negative people wanted
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Do we pay a fee?
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My understanding is that if the right goalkeeper came along they would sign him up, and if he didn't then they would have bided their time. They obviously think this lad is the right one.
Welcome!
Get off the lads back, he ant even played for us yet and people are at his throat already, at least let him pull a shirt on
So do these!
https://youtu.be/eJK-N8joVPk
Lad cant half save a penno!
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Nobody knows on here the deal itself, perhaps City said. "If you want him you buy him" they too have a big wage bill
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My understanding is that if the right goalkeeper came along they would sign him up, and if he didn't then they would have bided their time. They obviously think this lad is the right one.
Welcome!
Get off the lads back, he ant even played for us yet and people are at his throat already, at least let him pull a shirt on
So do these!
https://youtu.be/eJK-N8joVPk
Lad cant half save a penno!
Are you referring to me Vicar? I think you may be quoting the wrong people here.
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His distribution will have been a big thing for Fergie. Marosi's isn't very good.
His distribution will have been a big thing for Fergie. Marosi's isn't very good.
A little harsh on him. He's been improving in all aspects of the game and you could see more recently he was releasing the ball without hesitation. The superb 2nd goal v Portsmouth started from Marosi.
It works two ways. Players have got to have confidence in each other. You often see defenders showing for ball but they don't actually want it. A keeper has to decide quickly if the pass is on. He didn't always get it right earlier in the season.
Alcock, Baudry, Mason all being better footballers and knowing DF wants it played quickly, make sure they're ready to receive the ball. That helped Marosi's confidence.
I hope it doesn't take long for this lad to build up the rapport with those in front of him.
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Very astute signing if you ask me, and shows that DF certainly has the 'pull factor' when it comes to speaking with players. This boy obviously had the choice of League 2 when it came to a move, inc clubs like Pompey would have also been offering him decent money and the realistic possibility of moving up the leagues in time.
In terms of the 3 keepers, I suspect that Lawlor will be our first choice now, Ross will deputise for the rest of the season until Marko is fit again. I can see Ross being shipped out on loan next season and will, in time, leave the club.
Let’s wait and see though.....
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http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/ian-lawlor-who-is-the-manchester-city-goalkeeper-being-linked-with-league-one-bristol-rovers/story-30052904-detail/story.html
the lot above also had some "east european" named goalie on trial judging by the name and decided not to sign him yesterday - obviously when a bigger club came in they had no chance I'D guess at 100k +20% sell onl ?
Pepsi Guadiola will obviously have taught him "tesco style" distribution so another piece fits in the jigsaw -- we all know you strengthen when you are at the top - hopefully one very very big piece to come
for tommorrow remember he was on loan at barnet so knows all about Akindes penalties
by the way Plymouth couldbe getting even more £-s-d as they have a 20% sell on clause on A dingle that might be sold soon
Partington has funnily enough just gone to bristol rovers
carlisle just signed one in the Chesterfield fire sale obviously they can only afford to shop at "LIDDLE"
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Seems a good signing to me, got plenty of pedigree and is a big, strong player. Been in the Ireland senior team, kept clean sheets in nearly 50% (7 in 15) of his games for Bury last season in the league above, and could be a good project for Fergie. I expect Fergie/Wilcox went looking for a goalie to fill in until the end of the season and came across Lawlor, who it then transpired was able on a permanent deal so we've taken the opportunity to strengthen our squad which is a good thing and the signing shows ambition and backing from the board.
I think having three young keepers is one too many, yes, but it seems clear now that one will leave in the summer. I'd expect it to be Etheridge, maybe Fergie has decided enough is enough with him unless he can impress between now and the summer. Marosi has performed well and has been unlucky to get injured, he showed enough without even getting games to warrant a new deal last summer so surely Fergie likes him enough to keep him around?
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Seems a good signing to me, got plenty of pedigree and is a big, strong player. Been in the Ireland senior team, kept clean sheets in nearly 50% (7 in 15) of his games for Bury last season in the league above, and could be a good project for Fergie. I expect Fergie/Wilcox went looking for a goalie to fill in until the end of the season and came across Lawlor, who it then transpired was able on a permanent deal so we've taken the opportunity to strengthen our squad which is a good thing and the signing shows ambition and backing from the board.
I think having three young keepers is one too many, yes, but it seems clear now that one will leave in the summer. I'd expect it to be Etheridge, maybe Fergie has decided enough is enough with him unless he can impress between now and the summer. Marosi has performed well and has been unlucky to get injured, he showed enough without even getting games to warrant a new deal last summer so surely Fergie likes him enough to keep him around?
I tend to agree with all that
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Excellent signing for me. Welcome to Doncaster Ian, and the best of luck to you.
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great signing for me as well, this lad could be a diamond.
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It's a big welcome from me.
IMHO, something that we were missing - a big unit as a last line of defence, hopefully someone who can Marshall the troops in front of him and not be afraid to be vocal ( an area where Marko is weak). I see him going straight in the team as he has good experience at this level. It will, of course, depend on how training goes today.
I'll bet the only way we have been able to get him is by signing him permanently, so well done for getting it done. It may well be that we have had offers for Marko or, like others have alluded to, maybe Etheridge is just not settling in. Either way, we've taken action and that is a million miles away from where we were this time last year! Someone once said, 'you get nowhere in this game by standing still' and this time it definitely isn't us that that saying can be aimed at. Now, a proper left back would be the icing on the not-so considerable cake.
:thumbsup:
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Now would be a great time to offer Marosi a new deal, and get him signed up for the next 2 years.
It would say to the lad that he is a part of the plan going forward, and can compete for the shirt when fit again.
I assume we need to make a decision about Jones in the near future. Not having seen him play, it is difficult to know, but he would be cheap on a 1or 2 year deal, loaned out to get experience.
All of which leaves Dame Edna between a rock and a hard place. I hope he responds well and fights his corner, and good luck if he gets the nod at Barnet.
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Bloody rubbish board should have at least got Joe Hart lol
Another great signing well done guys
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Good signing, think him & Marosi will battle it out for the No 1 Jersey next season. Surprised at some of the comments about Marosi as I think he's been a match winner for us on a few occasions this season.
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In my opinion lawler is a great signing, Marosi has become a good shot stopper but hes simply not tall enough to command his area, hats off to fergie for a great signing.
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Excellent signing, Ian welcome to Rovers.
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How can people be so sure he's a good signing without ever having seen him play or not even probably heard of him before. I assume you are using the theory that he was 100th choice at City and has played for the U21s for a third world country??
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Unless I'm mistaken Marosi's contract runs out at the end of the season so if we wanted him to resign I'm not sure we'd of gone and signed another keeper permanently. Perhaps Fergie and staff see Etheridge or Jones as better long term prospects than Marko and have brought Lawlor in to be first choice now?
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I may be wrong but I think marosi extended his deal earlier this season! My city sth has seen lawlor play and says he expects him to be a success here. City obviously have bravo and cabellero as no 1 and 2 Hart won't be returning there for a reason not yet public knowledge apparently and they also have the very highly rated Angus Gunn on their books so lawlor was at best 4th or 5th choice!
Marosi has been impressive and etheridge can still come good! Potentially 3 very good young goalies on our books - great strength in depth!
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I think this will prove to be a great signing and I cant understand why anyone would question the wisdom. With Marosi out for 3 months we only have one keeper and a young lad, if Etheridge was injured or does not perform we would be in danger of throwing away our position at the top of the table. We had to sign another keeper and given that the deal was done so quickly I suspect this has been on the cards for some time. The fact that he has come to Donny when he would doubtless have had other offers reflects the pulling power that being top of the table and having DF as a manager gives us. I expect he will go straight in the side tomorrow. Happy days !
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Why not offer marosi a new deal as in mine and plenty of other rovers fans on here think he deserves it and loan jones and either marosi or etheridge out next season and have the other as back up. All young so all could reach potential once playing regularly so be best to loan out I'd have thought and then we have option to bring back if we get injuries to any of other two. Welcome Ian lawlor too, let's hope you do well!
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I may be wrong but I think marosi extended his deal earlier this season!
It was before the season, June last year and it was a 1 year extension until June 2017 or basically the end of this season! I can't help thinking if DF wanted to keep him and had been as impressed by his recent performances as most on here have been he'd of already offered him a new deal by now and most certainly wouldn't of gone and signed Lawlor. That or he doesn't expect Marko to sign another contract with us.
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Marosi only signed until the end of this season
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Lawlor might be capable of actually commanding his area and leaping up to catch crosses something that Marosi never does.
Would've agreed with you a few months ago but I think that side of Marko's game has improved massively as the season has progressed
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The fact is that we only have four keepers right now because Marosi has suffered a long term injury.
DF had to make a decision and he chose to bring Lawlor in and it hopefully will be a good one.
To suggest that we should play Etheridge and see how we go for a few games is crackers.
We have put ourselves in a great position, DF appears to not have a lot of confidence in Etheridge and after the collapse of last season he won't want a repeat.
Irrespective of individual feelings the team has to come first.
I too expect Lawlor to play at Barnet and for him to be first choice.
When I heard about this signing I mentioned it to some workmates who usually pooh pooh what I consider to be important news about the Rovers but to my surprise they said it is a big statement signing by the club.
Well done DF and from someone (me) who hasn't been a fan of our board, thank you DW and TB for helping things to get this far.
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I may be wrong but I think marosi extended his deal earlier this season!
It was before the season, June last year and it was a 1 year extension until June 2017 or basically the end of this season! I can't help thinking if DF wanted to keep him and had been as impressed by his recent performances as most on here have been he'd of already offered him a new deal by now and most certainly wouldn't of gone and signed Lawlor. That or he doesn't expect Marko to sign another contract with us.
Maybe he was burned by what happened with Tyson and Evina. Both kind of went to shit after signing extensions.
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Not sure I get why your workmates would call it a statement signing. The last player we signed from Man City was Reece Wabara.
Not saying this guy won't be decent, but just because he has come from Man City reserve youth team doesn't mean he will definitely be any good.
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Wabbara hadn't been in a full International squad and been rated by a coach as good as Pep to be included in his first team squad.
The video posted of Lawlor on here indicates just how good he can be.
Also he chose us over higher placed clubs and has signed for two and a half years.
Maybe my mates recognised that we have signed a good keeper in the face of higher league opposition?
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I think it's a bit of a slap in the face for Marko. Lawlor has come here to be Number 1. That leaves Marko and Ross battling out for the bench. Marko has improved fantastically in the first half of the season and deserves a new contract, whether he'll want that knowing he'll be on the bench I'm not sure.
If Lawlor improves the first 11 then to you and me it matters not, I just feel for Marko and the timing of his injury.
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So do I, I rate Marco highly and have been singing his praises all season.
However he is injured and the club have to do what they think is right to keep us in promotion contention.
IMO, Marosi is a better keeper than Etheridge but we won't have him available for about three months and DF has to take this decision.
It is after all, his job on the line if the promotion push falls apart.
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My understanding is that if the right goalkeeper came along they would sign him up, and if he didn't then they would have bided their time. They obviously think this lad is the right one.
Welcome!
Get off the lads back, he ant even played for us yet and people are at his throat already, at least let him pull a shirt on
So do these!
https://youtu.be/eJK-N8joVPk
Lad cant half save a penno!
Are you referring to me Vicar? I think you may be quoting the wrong people here.
no SM i was not referring to you it was something Rovers return said saying he looks shocking
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Did he?
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Sounds an excellent signing. But all assumptions aside there is no doubt Marosi has done very very well this season.
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Sounds an excellent signing. But all assumptions aside there is no doubt Marosi has done very very well this season.
Agreed Jon.
We can only trust that Fergie and the board have found this keeper and decided the best option is to sign him permanently.
To me, that doesn't speak of desperation or failure of previous decisions, it speaks of ambition and determination to progress.
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I hope Fergie hasn't got his old man's weakness for picking a keeper. Unless it was somebody established as a top keeper, Schmeichel apart he wasn't good at picking keepers on potential. Just about his only weakness though.
If we don't sign Marosi on a longer contract somebody in this league at least will. He's impressed quite a few away fans so i'm sure their clubs managers-at least some of them will agree.
If Ferguson has more confidence in Lawlor then he has to pick him to start straight away. There is no room for sentiment. What i would say is the manager has very little patience he can go from thinking a player is 'top notch' to rubbish in a matter of weeks.
You can't treat all players the same some take longer to come good. He did it with Stuckmann although over a longer period before he decided.
I think what he is doing is keeping his options open with Marosi in case at the end of the season someone better is available. It is a touch cruel because he has done well this season.
He will probably start with Lawlor as number one-Etheridge backing him up. The one who could be most at risk is Jones. Ferguson might not see him as having the ability to make it with us.
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I hope Fergie hasn't got his old man's weakness for picking a keeper. Unless it was somebody established as a top keeper, Schmeichel apart he wasn't good at picking keepers on potential.
And de Gea.
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I hope Fergie hasn't got his old man's weakness for picking a keeper. Unless it was somebody established as a top keeper, Schmeichel apart he wasn't good at picking keepers on potential.
And de Gea.
That van DE sar chap wasn't bad either.
Guess we'll see on this guy, Ferguson must rate him it's a bold move. Potentially a big signing if he comes good given his age. It's much better to have a core of young players.
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I think Barthez was also on the whole a very good keeper.
On the subject I think it is clear to see Fergie doesn't think Etheridge is either good enough or ready yet. His performances haven't been good enough to warrant a number one spot. I think all of us had a thought that we could be in for a tough last ten when he came on against Pompey and I reckon the players would have been that way too.
Marosi has done a great job overall and is undoubtably a good shot stopper, but his weakness is in his lack of height and lack of dominance of his area. As good as he is at this level I think he might be found out in the higher leagues.
Lawlor will be a good addition and with good competition for the number one spot we should go from strength to strength.
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I think it's a bit of a slap in the face for Marko. Lawlor has come here to be Number 1. That leaves Marko and Ross battling out for the bench. Marko has improved fantastically in the first half of the season and deserves a new contract, whether he'll want that knowing he'll be on the bench I'm not sure.
If Lawlor improves the first 11 then to you and me it matters not, I just feel for Marko and the timing of his injury.
It isn't a slap in the face to Marko at all, he's a professional and understands the competition for places. He has got a season-ending injury and DF would be foolish to stick with having only an inconsistent, error-prone Etheridge and an untested academy kid. Lawlor has come in to be #1 because that's what every goalie who signs wants to do, he wouldn't come here to sit on the bench nor would anyone we could sign to cover Marko's injury. If Marosi really is good enough he'll beat Lawlor to the jersey when he's fit again and if he can't do that he'll surely find a new club at this level because his performances have been very good in a top of the table team.
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Starts today, this may say a lot about Ethridge's future. Or not
COYR
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Poor Etheridge
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Etheridge has another 2 years on his contract left and as I see it marosi has good has he has been if Ferguson really rated him he would have been given a contract extention already this season think marko could be the one to go
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Also don't rule out the possibility that Marosi is in negotiation with the club and a contract could be signed any day.
I think that if DF rated Etheridge more highly than Marosi then he would have played more games than he has done.
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I hope Fergie hasn't got his old man's weakness for picking a keeper. Unless it was somebody established as a top keeper, Schmeichel apart he wasn't good at picking keepers on potential.
And de Gea.
That van DE sar chap wasn't bad either.
Guess we'll see on this guy, Ferguson must rate him it's a bold move. Potentially a big signing if he comes good given his age. It's much better to have a core of young players.
De Gea i had forgotten he had signed him, he wasn't a certainty. Van Der Sar took no judgement he was tried and trusted no risk at all. He bought some terrible keepers Taibi being probably the worst. Barthez was seen as a certainty but turned out a bad signing.
Anyway back to our team. You have to get them when they are available that's what he's done. He's been watching him for some time according to his interview. Plenty of size about him and hopefully loads of improvement.
When was the last time we had a player called Ian in our side, would it be Ian Gore?.
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Iain Hume?...
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A very positive move by the club, one where I wouldn't be surprised if we beat some of the opposition for his signing with our offer.
From the youtube vid and backed up by the little I could see on the player highlights, Lawlor is a top class shot stopper, great positioning, strong presence in the area (helped by his size), and seems intelligent. His failing apears to be in catching and holding onto the ball. If he can sort that he can be one of our best ever keepers. It is very worrying though.
Marosi is a worker and has shown he is capable. He has weaknesses but I think he can overcome them. His attitude is top class.
Etheridge has ability to become a great keeper but needs to get to the next level to make it at the club. He is shakey at the minute and especially on this he hasn't earnt trust to be our number one for the rest of this season. The jury is out, I'm not sure if he will have the opportunity to show he has improved before the end of the season. On a 2 year contract.
Keeping the three of them for next season is unlikely, but a great problem to have :scarf:
I'd be interested to hear from anyone at the Barnet game how Lawlor was with catching, and distribution.
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From memory he only really had one cross to deal with and elected to punch but did so with conviction. Distribution was sound and one or two excellent quick throws. All in all a quiet afternoon for him but an excellent block late in the second half.
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Etheridge has ability to become a great keeper
In the limited time he has had since joining us he has shown nothing to suggest he has the ability to become a great keeper. So BRR, unless you watched him a number of times before he joined the Rovers I don't see how it is possible to arrive at such an opinion.
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My thoughts too.
I remember reading some posts a few weeks ago,after the Wycombe game I think, which said much the same.
From what I have seen of him, including his fumbles in the pre match shoot in, he does not fill me with confidence.
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Etheridge has ability to become a great keeper
In the limited time he has had since joining us he has shown nothing to suggest he has the ability to become a great keeper. So BRR, unless you watched him a number of times before he joined the Rovers I don't see how it is possible to arrive at such an opinion.
Going on what I saw of him for Accrington last season, and from what DF said on signing him.
Interesting game here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlwXEonBGew (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlwXEonBGew) I watched only because of the comment of Etheridge playing a blinder, though didn't really show anything in the highlights BUT it includes one of the best saves you'll ever see from the Buxton keeper, Andy Warrington, at around 5.30 - well worth a watch.
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You're dead right Brizzle :) That is one helluva save! Unbelievable Jeff.
BobG
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I hope Fergie hasn't got his old man's weakness for picking a keeper. Unless it was somebody established as a top keeper, Schmeichel apart he wasn't good at picking keepers on potential.
And de Gea.
That van DE sar chap wasn't bad either.
Guess we'll see on this guy, Ferguson must rate him it's a bold move. Potentially a big signing if he comes good given his age. It's much better to have a core of young players.
De Gea i had forgotten he had signed him, he wasn't a certainty. Van Der Sar took no judgement he was tried and trusted no risk at all. He bought some terrible keepers Taibi being probably the worst. Barthez was seen as a certainty but turned out a bad signing.
Anyway back to our team. You have to get them when they are available that's what he's done. He's been watching him for some time according to his interview. Plenty of size about him and hopefully loads of improvement.
When was the last time we had a player called Ian in our side, would it be Ian Gore?.
Red J said Iain Hume, and I think that is correct if we allow Iain as opposed to Ian
For an Ian, I believe the last was Ian Duerden in 1999-2000
But lest we forget, Ian Snodin also played a 11 Conference games in 1998-99, and his last 2 games were early in 1999-2000
We did have Iain Turner in Goal in 2004-05
Ian Gore and Ian Clark last played in 1997-98.
Still want to know if Ian Lawlor is related to Kit and Jimmy Lawlor, Rovers players in the 1950's
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I once traced somebody by looking up birth certificates and such like Brian. I ended up at a site which could provide addesses and phone numbers even but you had to pay a small number of pounds. I paid up. It worked a treat.
BobG
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Probably quicker and cheaper to just tweet him and ask.
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Ah. That's ok if you know how to do them tweety things Nudga. And how to find somebody too. Do you have to separate them out by the size and shape and colour of their beaks?
BobG
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I must admit, I go on facebook and although I don't understand what my 'wall' is, or what the difference between my home page and my timeline is, at least I can get my thoughts across. On the other hand, I don't get Twitter. I just don't know how to use it.
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I must admit, I go on facebook and although I don't understand what my 'wall' is, or what the difference between my home page and my timeline is, at least I can get my thoughts across. On the other hand, I don't get Twitter. I just don't know how to use it.
Wall is all the posts from you and your friends over the current day and the day before usually. Though you can keep going down the page for further back posts.
Timeline is a record of things you like-music, books etc. Photographs from past events you've been to. Photo's that you've decided to put on. Also hobbies interests and a list of your friends. It's basically a record of things from the past since you've been on it and things you've posted or commented on.
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I have twitter but it's shit, a bit stalker like. I only use it for football drills.
Maybe the VSC could tweet him a couple of questions?
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Not that this is even the debate but I really do prefer Twitter nowadays. I know it depends who your friends are too but Facebook just seems to be all memes, silly videos/pictures and nonsense whereas on Twitter I keep up with all the relevant news and see interesting little updates from the lives of my friends.