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Title: Ref
Post by: roversdude on February 18, 2017, 05:22:46 pm
Was he as bad as it sounded
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Filo on February 18, 2017, 05:25:02 pm
Don't know how it sounded, but he was f**king awful
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: BobG on February 18, 2017, 05:26:57 pm
I'm sure he's got previous with us too. I can't remember the match now but I know I left the KM once with murder in my heart....

Cheers

BobG
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: dknward2 on February 18, 2017, 05:34:09 pm
He was garbage expected him to rule out mays goal
Bottled every major decision
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: danum on February 18, 2017, 05:35:04 pm
Don't know how it sounded, but he was f**king awful

Did he ever get as good as that ?
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Filo on February 18, 2017, 05:36:05 pm
How that dirty t**t Hylton never got a card of some description I'll never know
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: goalkick on February 18, 2017, 05:42:52 pm
 Most of their challengers were fouls,get the player before the ball.they got away with it nothing from the ref.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: i_ateallthepies on February 18, 2017, 05:44:06 pm
Total cnut!  Let them get away with murder.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Padge_DRFC on February 18, 2017, 05:44:18 pm
He was bad. The things that's pissing  me off every game this season is they don't do anything at all in regards to blatant time wasting. It ruins the game also. Maybe the FA should concentrate on how to cut times wasting out and feigning injury instead of what foam they use next season.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 18, 2017, 05:45:00 pm
He was garbage but have seen worse.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: phil o sophical on February 18, 2017, 05:45:24 pm
Don't expect anything else from Deadman. He's consistently inconsistent. Never seen him have a decent game with us yet.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: bobbymax on February 18, 2017, 05:46:14 pm
How that dirty t**t Hylton never got a card of some description I'll never know
Seconded!
No mystery as to why they have the worst disciplinary record in the league - head it up in the air and then commit some kind of assault while waiting for the ball to come down again.
Ref was truly hopeless!
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: mushRTID on February 18, 2017, 05:49:34 pm
I feel embarrassed moaning about previous refs this season as this guy was an absolute disgrace.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: glosterred on February 18, 2017, 05:53:26 pm
Was he as bad as it sounded

No he wasn't, he was f**king worse

COYR
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Donnywolf on February 18, 2017, 05:54:04 pm
I'm sure he's got previous with us too. I can't remember the match now but I know I left the KM once with murder in my heart....

Cheers

BobG

BobG ... Just search for him on Rate the Ref - you will see every game he has done for us. Mostly rubbish and today he was consistent CRAP from start to finish

He tries to let the game flow and it just does not work.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: donnievic on February 18, 2017, 05:56:51 pm
He was that bad there was even a foul when we got the ball back for our goal
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: MrFrost on February 18, 2017, 05:58:11 pm
Their forward should have been sent off just before half time.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Lesonthewest on February 18, 2017, 06:00:02 pm
Don't normally comment on refs as it tends to even itself out, but this guy was truly awful. there is nothing wrong with being physical & Luton were certainly that, but there were blatant fouls going on & he gave our players absolutely no protection whatsoever, he was like a twelfth man for them, there were times when I wouldn't been surprised if they had picked the ball up & started running with it, rugbyesque. It was like when you were a kid on the school field & the team 6-0 up got no decisions, while the teacher let the losing side do whatever they wanted. Shocking performance.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 18, 2017, 06:00:13 pm
Looks like Houghton out for while with knee injury. Ferguson says he is worried.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: ballysbackin on February 18, 2017, 06:03:12 pm
He was garbage but have seen worse.

YES very true but they both stood on the side lines, today. No bottle any of them absolute ctuns
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Akinfenwa on February 18, 2017, 06:04:37 pm
I don't usually care too much about refereeing performances, but today I make an exception.

It honestly felt like a conspiracy against us at times. Seemed like one rule for us and another for them, and they are one of, if not the scummiest team I've seen at our place. Yet officially we committed more fouls than they did. Work that one out.

He's probably travelling home on the Luton team coach as we speak.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: ballysbackin on February 18, 2017, 06:05:10 pm
How that dirty t**t Hylton never got a card of some description I'll never know
Seconded!
No mystery as to why they have the worst disciplinary record in the league - head it up in the air and then commit some kind of assault while waiting for the ball to come down again.
Ref was truly hopeless!

I am right in saying it was their manager bleating about Portsmouth fans singing that one of his players broke a leg....Well on today WELL DONE POMPEY FANS. Luton nothing but Dirty. all their players have a Rovers shirt which they ripped off players backs
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: donnyguy61 on February 18, 2017, 06:15:54 pm
Luton manager saying referee was outstanding
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: ballysbackin on February 18, 2017, 06:18:16 pm
Of course he was. he was the only one in a black shirt... Outstanding because he let them do as they please, but how many points are they behind us??
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: mushRTID on February 18, 2017, 06:21:57 pm
Luton manager saying referee was outstanding

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Campsall rover on February 18, 2017, 06:24:32 pm
Ref was as poor for them as much as he was for us.
How he didn't see that blatant foul by Alcock in the first half I don't know as it was almost a rugby tackle.
He missed loads of very physical challenges throughout the match.
But at least he was consistently bad to both teams unlike the last two referees we have had at Newport & Carlisle.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: CJK on February 18, 2017, 06:39:45 pm
Don't agree. He was totally inept. I haven't got time to list all the incidents worth noting but I wish I had. If an assessor saw a replay of that performance he would surely be struck off the list. One of the worst displays by a referee I have ever seen. It's not possible to be consistently that bad unless he hates Rovers or Luton had paid him off.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Campsall rover on February 18, 2017, 06:47:22 pm
I don't usually care too much about refereeing performances, but today I make an exception.

It honestly felt like a conspiracy against us at times. Seemed like one rule for us and another for them, and they are one of, if not the scummiest team I've seen at our place. Yet officially we committed more fouls than they did. Work that one out.

He's probably travelling home on the Luton team coach as we speak.
You obviously we're not at Newport then as they were far worse than Luton.
The ref there was worse believe me. Gave us no protection at all.
Most refs would have given 2 straight red cards fo assault, one didn't even get a yellow.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Bezza on February 18, 2017, 07:49:51 pm
a shocking performance from the ref, not for the 1st time he`s been poor , how does he keep being given games.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Donnywolf on February 18, 2017, 08:02:35 pm
My guess and its frightening if true - all the rest are worse then him ! Perish the f*****g thought
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on February 18, 2017, 08:04:14 pm
He is always so inconsistent. Luton players were palling up to him and some of the blatant fouls he missed were made up for by nothing fouls generally in their direction.

How he is still officiating at this level is beyond me!
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: idler on February 18, 2017, 08:12:25 pm
He was allowing them to make contact with our players before the ball arrived on numerous occasions.
How the hell kicking the ball down the tunnel to waste time wasn't a yellow I don't know.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: drfchound on February 18, 2017, 08:12:56 pm
Today it was as though the ref only saw one side committing offences.
The number of shoves and fouls by Luton players backing into our boys, especially by Hylton, that went unpunished was hard to accept.
When Hilton got "hurt" following the collision with Lawlor he stayed down to avoid getting booked because he went in trying to "do " to keeper.
To be fair, Hilton is a very good number nine, but he got away with murder today.
Also, how long did it take for the game to restart after their goal?
The add on time should have been 7 or 8 minutes.
Last week on tv a player got a second yellow for "celebrating too long" after scoring a last minute goal.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Donnywolf on February 18, 2017, 08:17:52 pm
I dont think I have EVER been as enraged during and after a game. The bloke was just an a******e of the highest order

He missed (or more likely ignored) the Alcock stiff arm assault after about 5 minutes and just fell apart after that. He tries to be "smart" and let the game flow but in truth he is an a*** and has not realised it DOES NOT work

What I cant get over is the 5 added minutes - wtf - it should have been 9 at least !


Then lets turn to the sly cynical f*****s we played against. When I was a lad the Players were men (literally) and now at 60 odd the Players are men too but most behaved like kids today. The number of sly kicks to poke the ball away to kill time - their Keeper missing a sidefoot pass to him at a goal kick which given he gets lets say 3000 a week he should have been able to stop - the t*** who clobbered the Ball down the Tunnel in NE corner - the throw ins that took forever to take and the Corners that took l-o-n-g-e-r than forever. Can the Ref not just say f*** you I will give a goal kick if you dont want a corner.

Deadmad cos Deadman is a Deadneck
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Donnywolf on February 18, 2017, 08:21:14 pm
He was allowing them to make contact with our players before the ball arrived on numerous occasions.
How the hell kicking the ball down the tunnel to waste time wasn't a yellow I don't know.

Also in the context of the game that Bluto alike (6) splattered Marquis from behind which looked like a Yellow. JM jumps up and tries to take a quick one and hey ho its blocked. Both Yellows with a "ref" rather than a f*****g idiot

Also he should have taken the opportunity to Yellow that piece of s*** that flattened Butler which MAY have stopped his antics but did not which allowed him to continue to run riot instead
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: idler on February 18, 2017, 08:23:05 pm
Other than rovers 3-4 Portsmouth I'd agree about him being the worst ref. Wolfy
But second worst is still quite an accolade.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: ballysbackin on February 19, 2017, 08:33:14 am
And Houghton may miss the rest of the season yet, due to the tosser letting it go
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Donnywolf on February 19, 2017, 08:39:31 am
Today it was as though the ref only saw one side committing offences.
The number of shoves and fouls by Luton players backing into our boys, especially by Hylton, that went unpunished was hard to accept.
When Hilton got "hurt" following the collision with Lawlor he stayed down to avoid getting booked because he went in trying to "do " to keeper.
To be fair, Hilton is a very good number nine, but he got away with murder today.
Also, how long did it take for the game to restart after their goal?
The add on time should have been 7 or 8 minutes.
Last week on tv a player got a second yellow for "celebrating too long" after scoring a last minute goal.

Thats my other "crusade" - along with dont give the Ball back

Simply stop the game clock when a goal is scored then the scorers (quite often us this Season) can go through their pre planned celebrations / shake each others hands / shake all their fans hands / whatever they want

Then and ONLY then when the conceding Team kicks off again does the clock restart

I would also do the same for any Substitutions - stop the clock when the Play stops for someone to go off and only start it again as the new Player enters the field of play - but lets face it none of the three will ever catch on
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: ravenrover on February 19, 2017, 09:47:00 am
And Houghton may miss the rest of the season yet, due to the tosser letting it go
Definitely a foul on Houghton but I think it was how he fell on his knee that did the damage, it happened right in front of me and his knee twisted as it hit the ground JMHO
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: idler on February 19, 2017, 09:58:28 am
We were near as well raven.
I said straight away that it looked a bad one.
A twisted knee finished my playing. It will be painful and take some healing.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: RedJ on February 19, 2017, 10:00:51 am
Today it was as though the ref only saw one side committing offences.
The number of shoves and fouls by Luton players backing into our boys, especially by Hylton, that went unpunished was hard to accept.
When Hilton got "hurt" following the collision with Lawlor he stayed down to avoid getting booked because he went in trying to "do " to keeper.
To be fair, Hilton is a very good number nine, but he got away with murder today.
Also, how long did it take for the game to restart after their goal?
The add on time should have been 7 or 8 minutes.
Last week on tv a player got a second yellow for "celebrating too long" after scoring a last minute goal.

Thats my other "crusade" - along with dont give the Ball back

Simply stop the game clock when a goal is scored then the scorers (quite often us this Season) can go through their pre planned celebrations / shake each others hands / shake all their fans hands / whatever they want

Then and ONLY then when the conceding Team kicks off again does the clock restart

I would also do the same for any Substitutions - stop the clock when the Play stops for someone to go off and only start it again as the new Player enters the field of play - but lets face it none of the three will ever catch on

Or just give the scoring team 30 seconds to get set then allow the other side to kick off regardless. It'd soon cut out the fannying about.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Donnywolf on February 19, 2017, 10:14:34 am
Was saying similar for the Corners yesterday that they eventually took . Wish Refs had power to say ok youve wasted enough time. Goal Kick - whether its us that do it or the oppos
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: idler on February 19, 2017, 02:46:51 pm
Graham Westley is moaning about Trevor Kettle after yesterday's game.
A match made in heaven.
Steve Evans sent to the stands as well.
There might be a little justice after all.😊
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Campsall rover on February 19, 2017, 04:07:59 pm
Yes I noticed Westley didn't moan about the ref in our game.
Surprise surprise.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Campsall rover on February 19, 2017, 04:12:31 pm
I tel you this though DF has done remarkably well to keep his cool after the last 3 refs we have had.
His Dad would have gone ballistic.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Filo on February 19, 2017, 04:30:56 pm
I tel you this though DF has done remarkably well to keep his cool after the last 3 refs we have had.
His Dad would have gone ballistic.

Do you see Fergie on the touchline yesterday?

He was going mental, and Strachs was as well
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Campsall rover on February 19, 2017, 05:26:41 pm
I tel you this though DF has done remarkably well to keep his cool after the last 3 refs we have had.
His Dad would have gone ballistic.

Do you see Fergie on the touchline yesterday?

He was going mental, and Strachs was as well
Yes I know but he hasn't mentioned the refs in any of his post match interviews. He is obviously wanting to stay out of trouble.
Would be interesting to see his written report though as I think they still do those as far as I am aware.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: idler on February 19, 2017, 07:54:09 pm
He mentioned yesterday's.
DF said that we got no protection and the elbow by Hylton on JM needs looking at.
He said that Hylton looked where JM was before swinging the elbow.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: drfchound on February 19, 2017, 07:58:50 pm
A la Chris Morgan on James Hayter
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: ravenrover on February 19, 2017, 09:28:41 pm
Was that the one in the second half after the ball had been cleared and JM was left in a heap? Wondered what black arts had gone off
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: balbyrover on February 19, 2017, 10:07:07 pm
There needs to be stronger disciplinary action on these elbows that we see in the game. They seem to be happening more and more.
If deemed deliberate there needs to be a heavier punishment for the offender.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Filo on February 19, 2017, 10:40:09 pm
There needs to be stronger disciplinary action on these elbows that we see in the game. They seem to be happening more and more.
If deemed deliberate there needs to be a heavier punishment for the offender.

Hylton would get a life sentence for the amount of elbows he did yesterday
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: balbyrover on February 19, 2017, 10:47:37 pm
There needs to be stronger disciplinary action on these elbows that we see in the game. They seem to be happening more and more.
If deemed deliberate there needs to be a heavier punishment for the offender.

Hylton would get a life sentence for the amount of elbows he did yesterday

I wasn't at the match so can't comment on that.
But my point was that it's becoming more and more frequent within the game. I understand that in some cases there are accidents and unfortunate incidents but if there is blatant evidence that a player is doing it intentionally then they need to be hit hard. Big suspensions, big fines. Make them think
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: ballysbackin on February 20, 2017, 11:11:22 am
There needs to be stronger disciplinary action on these elbows that we see in the game. They seem to be happening more and more.
If deemed deliberate there needs to be a heavier punishment for the offender.

Hylton would get a life sentence for the amount of elbows he did yesterday

Also their number 44 at the back
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: ZiggerZagger on February 20, 2017, 03:50:52 pm
It's quite easy to stop all this off the ball elbow stuff. Instant 10 game ban. 2nd offence 20 game ban. That'll hurt them in the long run with the clubs fining the players for not being able to play. As most of the time the refs don't see it so look at video evidence.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: keith79 on February 20, 2017, 04:46:56 pm
do we have any video evidence of this elbow.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: ballysbackin on February 20, 2017, 06:08:11 pm
I do not know about video but me and my two mates sat in SE corner, rows f and g had a totally unblocked view of the total incident...It was also his queue when he ran at Lawlor with studs up bumping into him, Lawlor ignored him and he stayed down until Ref stopped play with us in possession in their half when he got up. Then they kicked the ball back to Lawlor on restart. I do not know if Lawlor actually tapped him on the head to ensure he was alright or on the chin for trying it on but it was only then did ref stop play
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: drfchound on February 20, 2017, 07:13:51 pm
HYlton also crashed into Lawlor in the second half Bally and he came off second best that time too.
Both times he was rolling around as if shot.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: ballysbackin on February 21, 2017, 02:29:06 pm
Pity he had not been ha ha  :suicide: :suicide: :suicide:
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: wing commander on February 21, 2017, 02:49:31 pm
   I wish they would make the referee's assessment report public..It would be a interesting read...Deadman is normally known as a card happy ref but he failed to make the second group of refs list which makes you wonder is he's taking a more lenient view these days to get on that...He let them get away with murder most of the game although I still think our midfield allowed them to bully us far to much...
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: roversdude on February 21, 2017, 03:44:58 pm
WC if we had played like them, judging on what Butler got booked for - we would have only had half a team left on field