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Title: Referees... again
Post by: RTID!!! on February 25, 2017, 05:05:19 pm
What is wrong with some people ?peice of   :turd: :turd:
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: rich1471 on February 25, 2017, 05:07:06 pm
He was showing today clear penalty when he pulled copps back in the first half he was sh1t , but we missed some chances let's not get away from that
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: danum on February 25, 2017, 05:20:32 pm
Firstly we SHOULD have won .. but

Wow, what a performance with the whistle again 3 or 4 penalty shouts

When Tommy Rowe got booked for "diving" their player ran away from the incident
with his arms out "apologetically" as if to say no idea ? not finger pointing calling Rowe a cheat
maybe he was saying "you're sh1t at penalties anyway"

But yes another pretty inept display by the main official again !
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: Filo on February 25, 2017, 05:21:14 pm
Gaave Deadman a good run for his money!
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: roversdude on February 25, 2017, 05:23:38 pm
The Copps first half one was way outside area but def foul
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: Bessie Red on February 25, 2017, 05:31:44 pm
Even worse was the east stand lino not giving offside for their second , the lad who headed back across goal was a yard offside!! 😠😠
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: vaya on February 25, 2017, 05:37:13 pm
Even worse was the east stand lino not giving offside for their second , the lad who headed back across goal was a yard offside!! 😠😠

Answers that question then. Lawlor was going nuts at the officials about something, but I couldn't see what or why.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on February 25, 2017, 05:49:30 pm
Clear pen on Rowe as well as a dive. Would have booked Rowe for a dive but still was pulled back and a pen.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: RoversAlias on February 25, 2017, 05:52:59 pm
Utterly appalling officiating again today, where do they find these clowns? Wasn't the reason we didn't win but certainly didn't help. Shocking all round.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: andysly on February 25, 2017, 05:59:47 pm
I thought we'd got a decent one for a change after the first half hour or so then he went to shit.
One of his worst decisions was not giving them a penalty at the end.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: roversontheup on February 25, 2017, 06:02:16 pm
Didn't look a pen from my seat on half way line in East stand.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: Lesonthewest on February 25, 2017, 06:02:31 pm
No foul on Tommy Rowe for me.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: pib on February 25, 2017, 06:09:13 pm
Rowe dived.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: ballysbackin on February 25, 2017, 06:11:45 pm
Pooor REf
Believed they could walk ball in the net
Gave yes gave two goals away
inept finishing.

It is going to follow last years last 18 matches and last 5 are on that pattern
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: i_ateallthepies on February 25, 2017, 06:13:29 pm
I agree he dived but why dive when you've nutmegged the defender and clean through???

His work on the left wing though was the highlight of the game for me, put countless perfectly weighted crosses in.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: Campsall rover on February 25, 2017, 06:13:55 pm
Rowe dived.
That's not correct.
I am in the south east area almost level with the bye line.
Rowe was quite clearly clipped from behind. No question
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: bobbymax on February 25, 2017, 06:15:21 pm
The shocking thing is this clown will probably get another league game next week. He didn't know his backside from his elbow half the time and was making wrong decisions from 40 yards away with the certainty that only true stupidity can bring.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: roversdude on February 25, 2017, 06:20:23 pm
I thought he was good for first 15 minutes but went downhill fast after that
Accrington were cynical and dirty, how the centre half(Hughes) stayed on pitch i will never know
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: ballysbackin on February 25, 2017, 06:21:10 pm
Rowe dived.
That's not correct.
I am in the south east area almost level with the bye line.
Rowe was quite clearly clipped from behind. No question

Agreed I saw that too. But We are no longer good enough in my opinion Confidence is crap. Good thing and only good thing...Marquis on 19 and Rowe on 10 thats 3 in double figures.. But the missed sitters in the second half were criminal. True I think he would have found some reason to disallow them if they went in but dear oh dear.. Grant may not want to stay at Donny on what I am seeing
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: ballysbackin on February 25, 2017, 06:22:07 pm
I thought he was good for first 15 minutes but went downhill fast after that
Accrington were cynical and dirty, how the centre half(Hughes) stayed on pitch i will never know


But this is the last three teams to come here doing the same and keeping the ball in the air.   Manager's problem
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: Donnywolf on February 25, 2017, 06:29:33 pm
The Copps first half one was way outside area but def foul

He may have been referring to any earlier one where Copps beat the bloke all ends up and when he tried to run on to shoot he was held back with his shirt looking like the Marquis one in the Programme if you saw it today

The second Copps one was as you say outside the area for sure BUT why of why was it not given as a Foul ffs. The bloke had Copps round the waist. .... and why did we get "advantage" when Copps was fouled in NE Corner ? Surely we would be better off if given a dead ball kick and a chance to sling it in the area

Cretins of the highest order - 2 in 2 weeks and their Assistants ? I will let you know when someone else decides first then I will agree with them !
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: RedJ on February 25, 2017, 06:30:31 pm
Didn't think he got much wrong in the first half. Maybe the foul on Coppinger (which was outside I thought) should've been given but not bad otherwise. Thought he could've given a penalty to them when one of their lads seemed to be hauled down by two defenders at a set piece as well.

Some very odd ones in the second half though.

Oh and yes the "advantage" that never was. Christ.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: RedJ on February 25, 2017, 06:30:57 pm
But f**k me we had enough chances today to have been out of sight. Just wasn't happening.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: Donnywolf on February 25, 2017, 06:33:53 pm
But f**k me we had enough chances today to have been out of sight. Just wasn't happening.

Certainly DID. Williams could have put it out of sight just after he came on ... Tommy Rowe rolled that one wide. Alfie May have scored but changed feet trying to create a shooting chance and Copps tried to dink the keeper and it was saved

However the defending was poor for both their Goals
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: drfchound on February 25, 2017, 06:36:11 pm
On the Rowe pen shout, he certainly was pulled back after he nutmegged the defender and had the right to go down.
Agreed he went down a bit easily but it was a foul and therefore a pen.
The ref was yet another pile of shino and got so many decisions wrong.
I actually thought he had done ok up to the point where he booked their 10 and Mason after the handbags thing in the SW corner.
After that he just got most things wrong.
Interesting that there was an offside call for their second goal.
Obviously we couldn't see that from the South.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: ballysbackin on February 25, 2017, 06:40:05 pm
I looked straight at linesman on East side..flag stayed down. He earlier gave Donny a free kick and idiot ignored him when it was a foul on Williams, the ref tried to  appease Williams just after and was waved away by Williams as FUK U
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: pib on February 25, 2017, 06:42:07 pm
Rowe dived.
That's not correct.
I am in the south east area almost level with the bye line.
Rowe was quite clearly clipped from behind. No question

Will have to agree to disagree on this one.  Had a pretty good view myself and it wasn't a pen.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: Crowle Rover on February 25, 2017, 06:45:26 pm
Gaave Deadman a good run for his money!

Scunthorpe had the pleasure of this buffoon today apparently
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: Lesonthewest on February 25, 2017, 07:03:01 pm
Rowe dived.
That's not correct.
I am in the south east area almost level with the bye line.
Rowe was quite clearly clipped from behind. No question

Will have to agree to disagree on this one.  Had a pretty good view myself and it wasn't a pen.

I agree with Pib, looked a dive to me, didn't see any contact with Rowe. Thought the challenge on Williams was a straight red, looked like a leg breaker to me.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: drfchound on February 25, 2017, 07:06:01 pm
That one on Williams should have ended with a sending off, no question.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: scaley back rover on February 25, 2017, 07:08:10 pm
Definitely a pen on rowe, No doubt . Ref was shocking through out also I thought they had a good claim for a pen in first half too, so maybe they even themselves out
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: swintonrover on February 25, 2017, 07:10:33 pm
It's not just Rovers!
I had the pleasure of going to Marine v Frickley today (finished 3-3, cracking game). In the first half the ref let everything flow, including elbows. In the second half, he booked a Marine player. About 15 minutes later, he booked him again. The player runs back to defence. Joe Pugh was stood over the free kick, turned to the ref and pointed out to him that he'd already booked the Marine player and should have sent him off, culminating in about a minute where the referee was going through his book before finally producing the red card. He then missed the Marine keeper lunging into Pugh leaving Pugh on the floor and the keeper playing on. It finished 10 a side (Frickley keeper sent off for deliberate handball when they were 3-0 up, cost them big time), when there should have been at least 3 more red cards.
When I'm attending a game as a neutral and I leave annoyed at the referee, there is something really wrong.
The entire refereeing system needs a major major overhaul, they're turning games into farce.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: BigH on February 25, 2017, 07:14:03 pm
Blaming the ref is the footballing equivalent of 'the last refuge of a scoundrel'.

The ref today is absolutely not to blame for the chances missed or the goals conceded. Don't think for a minute that we were robbed by a poor referee.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: RoversAlias on February 25, 2017, 07:35:08 pm
Blaming the ref is the footballing equivalent of 'the last refuge of a scoundrel'.

The ref today is absolutely not to blame for the chances missed or the goals conceded. Don't think for a minute that we were robbed by a poor referee.

Did anyone actually say that though? If Rowe had slotted home the winner this thread would still exist and still be as long. Whether we win, lose or draw a refereeing performance as bad as it was today needs highlighting.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: drfchound on February 25, 2017, 07:38:37 pm
Contrary to some opinions, I say that refs can and often do, influence the outcome of a game.
Failing to make certain key decisions correctly has a big bearing on whether a team can win or otherwise.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: roversdude on February 25, 2017, 07:39:00 pm
I was so incensed last week I e mailed the referee's association
No surprise that other than an auto reply I have not received a reply
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on February 25, 2017, 08:04:51 pm
The trouble is, players become a victim of a culture they have created where it seems it's encouraged and accepted to go down at the slightest touch.

We can argue all we want about the technicalities of 'contact' but we wouldn't be having half as many conversations 10 to 15 years ago. More often players would try and stay on their feet and go on to score or set up a goal.

In that culture, it was easier to spot fouls than it is now and we can all see that referees are also a victim of this culture.

No excuse however for the ref not to give a foul on Copps even though it was no where near a penalty.

Unless someone gets a grip on this then things will certainly not get better. Who really wants to see players going down too easily, passing the buck and hoping the ref makes a decision?
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: Bessie Red on February 25, 2017, 09:53:57 pm
Blaming the ref is the footballing equivalent of 'the last refuge of a scoundrel'.

The ref today is absolutely not to blame for the chances missed or the goals conceded. Don't think for a minute that we were robbed by a poor referee.
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Okay I will not blame the ref for the second goal conceded but I will blame the east stand lino for not flagging offside when the first Accy player heads the ball back across goal. If thats ruled out as it should have been we probably go on to win the game 2-1!!
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: The Red Baron on February 26, 2017, 12:42:53 pm
I thought the Coppinger one could have been a free-kick or a penalty. I wouldn't have argued if he'd given it just outside. What it certainly wasn't was play on.

Regarding the Rowe one why would he go down when he'd beaten the man and was in a great position?
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: drfchound on February 26, 2017, 04:55:20 pm
Spot on TRB, why indeed.
Cast iron pen and if it is given we have a great chance to go to 3-1.
Who says refs can't influence the outcome of matches.
Title: Re: Referees... again
Post by: ballysbackin on February 26, 2017, 05:11:09 pm
The booking of ours yesterday. Ist half afk was awarded against Accrington so up steps big number three (Mark Hughes I believe) He took the ball for a long walk despite tosser blowing his whistle at him buy eventually when all his team were behind the ball and their goal he throws it down. Penalty nothing, every free kick almost - they stand over the ball stopping it being taken and then it happens, they take ball for a walk and we try to retrieve it, handbags, Accrington player knew what he was doing and walked straight towards the linesthing. Result he was booked but so what, he did get a defender booked which certainly effects that players future thoughts of will he get sent off and when Marquis is scythed down . Well he did at least get told please do not do it again. Again I point out the hand ball by their lanky blonde  defender in box but Marquis scored STILL  nothing said.