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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Bristol Red Rover on May 14, 2017, 03:52:27 pm
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After a dull Hudds v Owls, this is a cracking game, 3-1 to FGR coming up to half time.
FGR's proposed new all wood stadium would be one to visit - hopefully not in League 2.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/forest-green-rovers-reveal-plans-9788683
(http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article9788245.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/A-computer-generated-image-shows-a-view-of-the-proposed-new-stadium-for-English-non-league-soccer-cl.jpg)
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Brilliant news for FGR. Hope they do well next year.
20 years ago exactly we had just surrendered league status in miserable fashion, and they had just had successive promotions to reach the Conference. In the 7th match of the next season we lost 0-1 to them at Belle Vue - their first ever win in the Conference.
They were by far the current longest serving members of the Conference. That distinction falls now to Wrexham whi will enter their 10th season non league - can't believe it has been that long.
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Great result for FGR! Many congratulations!
For me, FGR are only about 40 minutes from Chippenham. Roll on next season!
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I quite like their current ground Bristol. It's a definite improvement on their old one! Only 3 sided really at the moment but the main stand is nice and the ends are fine. Parking is only so so though.
BobG
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The current ground has one huge advantage over the proposed new one (Eco Park) - it is actually in Nailsworth. There is a lot of controversy among all their 3 fans as Eco Park is planned to be sited nearly 10 miles away - next to junction 13 of the M5. It's like Rovers moving to Thorne.
Thats fine whilst you have a rich benefactor supporting you but he wont be around forever. Max Griggs and Nene Park come to mind.
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Shocking that this game was played at wembley as the FA pulls out all its stops to recoup its money it laid out for wembley rebuild.
Ground was 3/4 empty and never was going to need mire than one tier open.
Should have played game at a far more approite leagu ground.
Look how shite it would have looked at wembley it dag&rednridge v Doncaster rovers play off game was played there,bearing in mind stokes ground was not full.
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Got a bit of a soft spot for Fgr, first season we went the chairman was selling the half time draw tickets on the club house and they were advertising the game as come and see the stars of Donny Rovers
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Although he'll own the whole Eco Park development, it's very much part of his vision of expansion for his business as a whole. He's also a lot younger than Max Griggs.
The owner has argued that the new location will attract more fans. The new location will be just as near to Stroud, which is the main population centre, and also Gloucester, and other people that like the club's ethos. The club is arguably being marketed more as a brand rather than as a location. It could work!
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Shocking that this game was played at wembley as the FA pulls out all its stops to recoup its money it laid out for wembley rebuild.
Ground was 3/4 empty and never was going to need mire than one tier open.
Should have played game at a far more approite leagu ground.
Look how shite it would have looked at wembley it dag&rednridge v Doncaster rovers play off game was played there,bearing in mind stokes ground was not full.
cleethorpes (not grimsby)v south shields at wembley next saturday in the fa vase
before york v macclesfield
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Christ images that Doncaster v farnborough game been played at wembley even thou it was a second leg .
It would have been a shite celebration afterwards for sure for the sake of the FA grabbing a few pence.
The FA at times really fcuk me off ( Patricia f smith) .
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We weren't playing in the FA Vase though. That final is a great career moment for a bunch of guys who by-and-large never get close to playing pro football. They don't hold it at Wembley to get their money back on that game for obvious reasons.
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Still don't take away that the FA are a bunch of w**kers ,but you do have valid points.
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south shields are massive favourites they have Julian arca ex Sunderland man in midfield still only 35 I think
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Although he'll own the whole Eco Park development, it's very much part of his vision of expansion for his business as a whole. He's also a lot younger than Max Griggs.
The owner has argued that the new location will attract more fans. The new location will be just as near to Stroud, which is the main population centre, and also Gloucester, and other people that like the club's ethos. The club is arguably being marketed more as a brand rather than as a location. It could work!
Thats exactly the same argument used to move Wimbledon to Milton Keynes. They are not from Stroud they are from Nailsworth, there is a team in Stroud - Stroud FC. And there will be on in Gloucester when Gloucester City move back. FGR may be being marketed as a brand rather than a place - that is exactly the reason to oppose it.
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Actually Wilts, FGR did change their name to Stroud FC from 1989 to 1992 before changing back.
Although that sort of proves your point, it does also mean that there is some previous FGR attachment to Stroud, unlike Wimbledon and MK.
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Brilliant news for FGR. Hope they do well next year.
20 years ago exactly we had just surrendered league status in miserable fashion, and they had just had successive promotions to reach the Conference. In the 7th match of the next season we lost 0-1 to them at Belle Vue - their first ever win in the Conference.
They were by far the current longest serving members of the Conference. That distinction falls now to Wrexham whi will enter their 10th season non league - can't believe it has been that long.
I was in Belle Vue fairly early before that Forest Green match. There was an old guy and a lad in his late twenties walking around,both wearing FGR club Blazers. You could read their thoughts as they looked around an ex-league club ground pinching themselves.We outplayed them but couldn't score. I was disappointed at the end but did feel happy for those two guys.
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Didn't we dominate that game and they caught us on the break and scored with their only shot?
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Local derby with Cheltenham next season.
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Although he'll own the whole Eco Park development, it's very much part of his vision of expansion for his business as a whole. He's also a lot younger than Max Griggs.
The owner has argued that the new location will attract more fans. The new location will be just as near to Stroud, which is the main population centre, and also Gloucester, and other people that like the club's ethos. The club is arguably being marketed more as a brand rather than as a location. It could work!
Thats exactly the same argument used to move Wimbledon to Milton Keynes. They are not from Stroud they are from Nailsworth, there is a team in Stroud - Stroud FC. And there will be on in Gloucester when Gloucester City move back. FGR may be being marketed as a brand rather than a place - that is exactly the reason to oppose it.
remember that story ... they got out of their depth
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-37292155
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Agree with Wilts about the Rushden Diamonds comparison.
FGR are a rich mans toy, without the support base to justify full time football IMO. The population in their home area is just not sufficient for long term prosperity without heavy financial support.
That said, they can probably match other promoted outfits like Dagenham, Morecambe or Accy Stanley, so good luck to them.
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D&R will have a local derby with LO next season.
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The village isn't big enough Albie, but Gloucester is close by, Cheltenham is close by, Stroud is close by, the villages of the south Cotswolds are all close by and even Swindon isn't very far away. FGR won't get big crowds once the novelty has worn off, but if they get a decent team together thay have plenty of catchment to pull people from.
BobG
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Still don't take away that the FA are a bunch of w**kers ,but you do have valid points.
Can't say fairer than that Oslo! :)
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Shocking that this game was played at wembley
Completely disagree.
Why shouldn't a "final" with a big prize as a result be played there? Some of those players may never get another chance. Much rather these games than FA Cup semi finals!!
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At least they may not be instructed to change their club name as Stevenage were told to drop "Borough" on gaining promotion. Why should it matter when others i.e. MK Dons can mix and match. Accrington were not made to drop the Stanley, even though they had previously been in the league as that club. I am as pleased as punch for them.
Their fans were always a good bunch, pleasant to talk to and no problems, I hope the more established clubs keep hold of their morons when going down there or it could be another part of England destroyed by idiots
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Didn't we dominate that game and they caught us on the break and scored with their only shot?
Bid Nev also saved a one on one in their only other attack.
I think that our midfield that day had Snod and Sheridan with Nichol at the back.
I remember thinking pre-match of the experience in our team. Oh well.
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At least they may not be instructed to change their club name as Stevenage were told to drop "Borough" on gaining promotion.
Used to have a friend who supports Stevenage and he seemed to think it was the chairman who made the decision as he thought it'd be better for the club brand or something.
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Shocking that this game was played at wembley
Completely disagree.
Why shouldn't a "final" with a big prize as a result be played there? Some of those players may never get another chance. Much rather these games than FA Cup semi finals!!
The stadium was 3/4 empty for the game yesterday ,that's why the game should not be played there.
It don't deserve to be played at wembley with a crowd that low ,I bet the atmosphere was lacking heaps > as they say in Australia .
As for players at whatever ever low level having the chance to play at wembley ,I type of see your point but I think players today are pampered far too much as they seem to have far more controll than club owners and managers these days.
Like I said the FA play the game there to help play for the re build ,that is there ONLY concern as if only one man and his dog spot turned up they play at wembley.
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I remember a story at the time that no club could be called Borough as it was not in professional standards. I am not saying you are wrong Red but they were not happy having to drop The "Boro"
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What about nuneaton borough ? Do they still go by that name .
Had two very good days out at both of the nuneaton borough v Doncaster rovers games back in the conference.
You will like this one bally1950 > after one of the games we was all having a drink in a nuneaton pub town centre down a back street .about 30 of us.
I was last one to walk in and I followed two so called normall locals into the pub .a man and and women both in their late twenties I guess and if anything a little to overdressed for thiamine run down back street pub.
Their clothes were to sharp and clean and when they got to the bar they both ordered two orange juices.
It was team time just after the game and this middle class looking
couple lookedvwell out of place .
Duke box was on and it was only donny lads in the pub and the alarm Bells had started ringing within all the lads as soon as this couple walked in.
So after 10 mins they was asked out right if they was u ddr cover police spotters etc etc ,to which they said 'NO NO NO '
'So your boyfriend girlfriend then'
Lads left it at that and even two vodka comes was bought for them and placed in front of the, to see if they would drink them > as we all knew what this couple was.
All lads started to call the male 'reg Hollis ' but they still made out that they was only a couple .
' so give your lass a propper kiss then reg'
The look on these two faces was priceless ,then another donny lad came in through the pub door and said straight away ' watch them two at the bar as they are under cover rozzers ' as he had seen them getting out of a police van 5 mins from the pub.
Even the bar man was laughing ,the under cover police got up and left but not before shaking hands with all the lads in the pub.
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Firstly - Yes Nuneaton did come in as Borough, so I may be wrong
On Two - Yep a dead give away ffs, not even trying to blend in...AND getting out a a Police Van. ah well it takes all kinds, no point in them staying really was there. ha ha ha :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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I remember a story at the time that no club could be called Borough as it was not in professional standards. I am not saying you are wrong Red but they were not happy having to drop The "Boro"
I hadn't heard that Bally. It has a ring of truth because Nuneaton Borough are now called Nuneaton Town
From their Wiki:
Five years later, they changed their name to Nuneaton Town, and played until 1937 when the club was disbanded.However, two days later Nuneaton Borough F.C. were founded. In 2008 the club was liquidated, and due to a FA ruling were reformed as Nuneaton Town – suffering a two division demotion.
It is not clear from above whether the FA ruling in 2008 was the 2 Division demotion, having to drop 'Borough', or just having to have a different name from the original club, like say AFC Halifax.
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My apologies, as my comment was wrong. I did research it and it was down to the then Chairman. for re-branding purposes as stated on a post further back. - Borough name change disappoints council leader
PUBLISHED: 11:37 21 May 2010 | UPDATED: 12:47 21 May 2010Liam Osborne
Stevenage Football Club crest
Stevenage Football Club crest
PHIL Wallace’s decision to ‘re-brand’ the club by changing the name from Stevenage Borough to Stevenage FC has saddened council leader Sharon Taylor.
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Firstly - Yes Nuneaton did come in as Borough, so I may be wrong
On Two - Yep a dead give away ffs, not even trying to blend in...AND getting out a a Police Van. ah well it takes all kinds, no point in them staying really was there. ha ha ha :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Bally1950 when the police send in undercover officers into a situation like at that pub in nuneaton borough what on earth is going through their minds .
It's not the first or last time that undercover officers have been spotted trying to mingle within the donny lads at whatever game.i recall two donny undercover chaps in the salutation during a rovers v Huddersfield game that stuck out like two sore thumbs.
From my side of the fence you can spot them a mile off all the time ,which I have to ask are they going in with a ' we will let them know we are watching them attitude' or are they that stupid that they actually think they are blending in to the surroundings .
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Probably the latter BUT as you point out that it was not the last time it was done. BUT (again) You lads did put yourselves under the spotlight, But hey that was years ago, Just enjoy today
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Back in the day when plainclothes were spotted in the silver link mysterious little packages wrapped in silver foil began to be openly passed around, just a piece of wrigleys but it always brought a smile
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Actually Wilts, FGR did change their name to Stroud FC from 1989 to 1992 before changing back.
Although that sort of proves your point, it does also mean that there is some previous FGR attachment to Stroud, unlike Wimbledon and MK.
Not quite Dutch. Is renaming your club with the name of a town five miles away (they never played in Stroud) really a connection with that town? This taken from their history:
Rovers struggled throughout the 80s near the foot of the table. In a bid to turn the Club’s fortunes around Rovers were renamed Stroud FC but this proved near disastrous with many life long fans and committee members turning their back on “Stroud FC”.
https://www.forestgreenroversfc.com/about-forest-green-rovers/our-history
Curiously enough the current Stroud FC have a much stronger connection with the 'other' team in Nailsworth, Shortwood FC, than they do with Forest Green.
http://www.stroudfc.co.uk/index.html
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Actually Wilts, FGR did change their name to Stroud FC from 1989 to 1992 before changing back.
Although that sort of proves your point, it does also mean that there is some previous FGR attachment to Stroud, unlike Wimbledon and MK.
Not quite Dutch. Is renaming your club with the name of a town five miles away (they never played in Stroud) really a connection with that town? This taken from their history:
Rovers struggled throughout the 80s near the foot of the table. In a bid to turn the Club’s fortunes around Rovers were renamed Stroud FC but this proved near disastrous with many life long fans and committee members turning their back on “Stroud FC”.
https://www.forestgreenroversfc.com/about-forest-green-rovers/our-history
Curiously enough the current Stroud FC have a much stronger connection with the 'other' team in Nailsworth, Shortwood FC, than they do with Forest Green.
http://www.stroudfc.co.uk/index.html
I see that they haven't up-dated their history yet! 😀
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Actually Wilts, FGR did change their name to Stroud FC from 1989 to 1992 before changing back.
Although that sort of proves your point, it does also mean that there is some previous FGR attachment to Stroud, unlike Wimbledon and MK.
Not quite Dutch. Is renaming your club with the name of a town five miles away (they never played in Stroud) really a connection with that town? This taken from their history:
Rovers struggled throughout the 80s near the foot of the table. In a bid to turn the Club’s fortunes around Rovers were renamed Stroud FC but this proved near disastrous with many life long fans and committee members turning their back on “Stroud FC”.
https://www.forestgreenroversfc.com/about-forest-green-rovers/our-history
Curiously enough the current Stroud FC have a much stronger connection with the 'other' team in Nailsworth, Shortwood FC, than they do with Forest Green.
http://www.stroudfc.co.uk/index.html
Thanks Wilts. I hadn't really realised the animosity it caused at the time. That new proposed stadium doesn't sound too good then does it.
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It certainly looks good though Dutch and just like BRR I would love to see it built and visit it - but in Nailsworth - preferably the hamlet of Forest Green where they have been since 1889.
They have come a long way and the new development is an ambitious venture but this is what you need to know about the chairman and his plans for the club - they are a tool for him to promote his ideas (brands) rather than a community asset he wishes to promote and protect:
When first approached by the club, Vince was not even a particularly keen football fan, but he saw in sport and in Forest Green the chance to promote a particular agenda. “I thought it was an opportunity to take our message to a new audience,” he says. “The world of football doesn’t really get spoken to on environmental issues. I thought we could use it as a new channel, and quite an unexpected one, to talk about sustainability.”
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/13/forest-green-dale-vince-national-league-tranmere-wembley
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Pfft, sustainability has been talked about by our board, not to mention this one, for years!
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Eco Park fails by encouraging more people to drive there. There's a lot of positive in all this, though negative too. Whilst this isn't in the same league as the MK Dons fiasco, it's of the same ilk. I wonder what the FGR fans think? Maybe that's all glossed over with the success? I notice the FGR fan forum is part of their official website and they require your land address and phone number to join up!