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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: mrfrostsdad on December 26, 2017, 07:13:25 pm
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He got quite a bit of stick from the west stand faithful in the second half today.
Ok, I'll re-phrase that: he got a LOT of stick in the second half today. His attitude is nothing short of disgraceful. Waving his arms around and berating everyone, his team mates, the referee, the Lino and anyone else who he feels like berating. It wouldn't be so bad if he was playing well, but he isn't. The final straw was when he went down feigning a head injury. The comments from the west stand were unrepeatable on here.
DF needs to get his head sorted out, and quick. He's letting everyone down at the moment, mainly himself.
His new name seems to be 'headless chicken'
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Didn’t hear that myself
Personally thought he ran his socks off again
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He got quite a bit of stick from the west stand faithful in the second half today.
Ok, I'll re-phrase that: he got a LOT of stick in the second half today. His attitude is nothing short of disgraceful. Waving his arms around and berating everyone, his team mates, the referee, the Lino and anyone else who he feels like berating. It wouldn't be so bad if he was playing well, but he isn't. The final straw was when he went down feigning a head injury. The comments from the west stand were unrepeatable on here.
DF needs to get his head sorted out, and quick. He's letting everyone down at the moment, mainly himself.
His new name seems to be 'headless chicken'
Can't moan about the team so let's start a thread slagging off our main striker.
It beggars belief
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Look at his stats when playing alongside May, then think again what is wrong with Marquis. Then compare his stats when playing alongside Mandeville and William, then compare Mandevilles stats and Williams stats when playing with Marquis.
There is an answer there, and it is not May.
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To be fair, although JM did put himself about again today but there is definitely something missing from his game.
His attitude to other players could also be questioned.
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I saw him moaning at Rowe who gave as good back to him , when he went down Mcgugan stood on him he was right to moan , but he ran his socks off and worked hard for the team who won
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I was wondering myself today, why was he giving up on chances and not shooting when he could have. Seems he’s not being used as striker at the minute. Ferguson seemed happy with his performance on radio sheff.
Great win today and generally a good game to watch, so well done Rovers.
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Had my brother in law attend today, a neutral from St Helens, Everton fan.
Picked Marquis out as being awful. I tried explaining he was our top scorer and main man up front but he was adamant he was shit.
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He got quite a bit of stick from the west stand faithful in the second half today.
Ok, I'll re-phrase that: he got a LOT of stick in the second half today. His attitude is nothing short of disgraceful. Waving his arms around and berating everyone, his team mates, the referee, the Lino and anyone else who he feels like berating. It wouldn't be so bad if he was playing well, but he isn't. The final straw was when he went down feigning a head injury. The comments from the west stand were unrepeatable on here.
DF needs to get his head sorted out, and quick. He's letting everyone down at the moment, mainly himself.
His new name seems to be 'headless chicken'
Can't moan about the team so let's start a thread slagging off our main striker.
It beggars belief
Just pointing out a fact Dickos. I thought you liked facts?
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Had my brother in law attend today, a neutral from St Helens, Everton fan.
Picked Marquis out as being awful. I tried explaining he was our top scorer and main man up front but he was adamant he was shit.
He sure wasn't good that is for certain, and hasn't been all season
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No facts in there, just your strange opinion
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Thought he or a shift in today on behalf of the team. That's not always been the case. Not really looking like scoring, but certainly playing his part for the team these last few weeks.
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That says much more about the poster than the player abused . Now the son has passed the poisoned pen to the old man FFS !!
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I like JM. His all action style and willingness to run his socks off for the team are what makes him popular with the fans. I would like to change two things about him, in an effort to make him a better team player.
Firstly, he needs to pick his battles. Not every challenge on him by an opponent is a foul and not every challenge he makes is a legal one, yet he mouths off at the referee and/or linesman every time. How he doesn't get cautioned more, I don't know!
Secondly, I wish that he would stay more in the centre forward position and not go looking for the ball in deep positions or out on the wing. We need him to be our lead striker and to be that, he needs to be in the penalty area far more often to be on the end of chances - he should watch Harry Kane's year on Sky Sports to see what a main striker should be doing for the team.
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He put a shift in today.suppose he could juggle at same time. :rolleyes:
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Footballer in doesn’t look as good as he did the season before after stepping up a level shocker.
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I like JM. His all action style and willingness to run his socks off for the team are what makes him popular with the fans. I would like to change two things about him, in an effort to make him a better team player.
Firstly, he needs to pick his battles. Not every challenge on him by an opponent is a foul and not every challenge he makes is a legal one, yet he mouths off at the referee and/or linesman every time. How he doesn't get cautioned more, I don't know!
Secondly, I wish that he would stay more in the centre forward position and not go looking for the ball in deep positions or out on the wing. We need him to be our lead striker and to be that, he needs to be in the penalty area far more often to be on the end of chances - he should watch Harry Kane's year on Sky Sports to see what a main striker should be doing for the team.
You say he is popular with the fans mate but he got some fearsome stick from plenty of fans in the South Stand in the second half today.
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He's adapting to the higher lever while still scoring at a steady level,
his attitude is disgraceful
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Had my brother in law attend today, a neutral from St Helens, Everton fan.
Picked Marquis out as being awful. I tried explaining he was our top scorer and main man up front but he was adamant he was shit.
By the same token, my mate is a Sheffield Utd fan and at the Rotherham game said Marquis was the best player on the pitch, and Sky gave him MOTM, yet many on here including myself thought he was poor that day.
Not saying your brother in law isn't a good observer Mush, just that we all have different opinions on a player whether we support that particular team or not.
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He is trying his best. He continues to cause the opposition problems and is difficult to keep quiet. He is obviously exasperated by his lack of goals but it isn't as if the rest of the strikers are showing him up either. We are winning , he will start to score again and when he does we may move up into the play off places. Keep the faith and stick together dudes !!
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He at least spent most of the game in the final third, rather than in his usual position alongside Butler and Baudry in the back line.
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If only John Marquis Knew how good he could really be..................
i think he could be a scorer of many goals and a higher level
many teams in higher divisions are lacking for goalscorers and that also counts for the lower premiership
if he only got his head in the right place......
he is so frustrating to watch when hes in this "every ones getting at me" attitude
he needs a good shake............there are players out in football land that cheat their way through careers....you all know some and may even be saying out loud certain names.
you only have to look at Leicester and see Vardy ..........i watched him in other division and said you know......he could go somewhere if he just gave thought to positioning................
he has exceeded all my expectations.................
you see young guys at the start of their careers.......and a lot of times, many of you again may say to yourselves what ever happened to .............fill in name here
i saw a centre back on loan to Lincoln from Norwich about 7 - 8 years ago .............David Stephens, with so much potential................he should be in the premiership IF he had the right mindset.and moved on with skills.......but alas .............
now back to John.....................i would LOVE all those goals for DRFC.............but get your head right and skies the limit as they are crying out for goalscorers.
and Potential doesnt cut it ...................you need to put the work in and stop the rage in you
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Twice now in recent times that I have seen him slated when I thought he did well (Rotherham being the other game when he was actually named man of the match).
I think he works tirelessly but he does show his frustration. I like that in a player, shows he wants to win. He was twice denied by good saves today and he also won us the penalty.
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Hang on a minute, the lad has played a part in all 3 goals including running with the ball from the halfway line for the second. Personally I’m glad he’s upset about not scoring. Much rather that then someone who is just happy to pick up their wages every week. I think some on here are letting their dislike of his perceived ‘bad attitude’ cloud their judgment of his performances.
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I'm not going to slate Marquis for his performances here. Yes he could finish better (he was definitely off his best today) but then again he's in league one. If he maintained the rate of last season he wouldn't be here...
I suppose the issue is that us fans don't see everything and only see what is at face value on the pitch.
If you'd gone to the game today for the first time and saw a player acting and berating his teammates like JM was doing today at times you'd really question why he was in the side.
If that's his way of doing things, fine. And if the squad and management are happy with the way he vents his frustration, crack on. But acting like he does sometimes, people are always going to question his attitude, rightly or wrongly.
Imo it makes no difference but there was a couple of occasions today when it did look as if he was getting on a couple of players' nerves going a bit OTT.
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I like JM. His all action style and willingness to run his socks off for the team are what makes him popular with the fans. I would like to change two things about him, in an effort to make him a better team player.
Firstly, he needs to pick his battles. Not every challenge on him by an opponent is a foul and not every challenge he makes is a legal one, yet he mouths off at the referee and/or linesman every time. How he doesn't get cautioned more, I don't know!
Secondly, I wish that he would stay more in the centre forward position and not go looking for the ball in deep positions or out on the wing. We need him to be our lead striker and to be that, he needs to be in the penalty area far more often to be on the end of chances - he should watch Harry Kane's year on Sky Sports to see what a main striker should be doing for the team.
You say he is popular with the fans mate but he got some fearsome stick from plenty of fans in the South Stand in the second half today.
he got a lot of stick from Tommy Rowe in the second half they hat two arguments then and that needs stopping straight away
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Depends what they were arguing over though. If it even was an argument, as such. Baudry and Butler were at it a few times in the first half. Might be nothing. I'd rather they were tough on each other when necessary than not give a f**k and let everything slide.
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Nothing wrong with players having a go at each other on the pitch.
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And, on the main topic, there’s nothing wrong with Marquis. Although I expect he’s knackered as he’s run himself into the ground in recent games.
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The bear minimum for a professional footballer must be effort and commitment which Marquis does give every week, however his first touch, passing and to some extent his shooting is woeful and that’s why he gets some much stick from the fans. Some of you on here think his effort and running none stop is enough for me it’s not, that’s what he should be doing along with scoring goals.
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He was far better than Alfie yesterday who was their best defender in the first half. I don't get why Marquis gets stick when he works his nads off and Alfie gets credit for running around and falling over.
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Yet Alfie may looks like he could play forever and not score, but gets clapped off the pitch. He was clean thru, 8 yds out but still didn't have the confidence to get a shot off..
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Yes I’ve got to agree with that. May doesn’t look like scoring and for me isn’t strong enough for this league. He’s quick of 5-10 yards but after that he quite slow. For some reason fans see him through rose tinted glasses.
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Ever wondered if our supporters see some of our players through ‘rose tinted glasses’ because they’re turning out for our club and we want them to do well and see the best in them. That seems to be a strangely alien concept for some, who would prefer to just pick and moan at everything.
We won 3-0 yesterday. 3-0. Back to back wins. And there are more threads on here complaining about things then there are celebrating it!
It’s Christmas, the team has found a little bit of form, enjoy it!
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Summed up perfectly mate
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I think he's been better last few games done a lot of running and taken a lot of hits.
Playing number 9 you take a lot of punishment from the centre halves, takes a lot out of you.
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A few seasons ago our defenders were often “bullied” by opposing strikers.. ours never did, apart from now with Marquis..
They don’t like it up ‘em..
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Both Marquis and May are hard working players.
Neither of them is particularly clinical in front of goal. For Marquis this looks temporary, for May it could be permanent or potentially something that can be coached in to him. Can’t fault either lad for effort though.
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May scored shedloads in non-league didn't he? Of course, he would have been up against slower thinking defenders, and could afford that extra touch, but putting the ball in the net is the same..
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We have some complete bell ends that claim to support us. One yesterday has quickly removed his post suggesting Marquis wants May to fail!!!!!!
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Why don't you so called supporters get off his back. I love his attitude he works hard for the team sometimes as the loan striker, never hides and battles with hairy arsed defenders. All the best players have that arrogant attitude and he has the ability to improve. Keep doing what you are doing, just add some goals which I'm sure will come, you can't keep a good man down.
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May scored shedloads in non-league didn't he? Of course, he would have been up against slower thinking defenders, and could afford that extra touch, but putting the ball in the net is the same..
That's just it though. He no longer has the time to take that extra touch, which he did yesterday and the chance became infinitely more difficult and ultimately not taken. I desperately want him to make it, but that, at this level, is the difference between making it and not making it as a striker.
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May scored shedloads in non-league didn't he? Of course, he would have been up against slower thinking defenders, and could afford that extra touch, but putting the ball in the net is the same..
Just because you score goals for the Dog and Duck doesn’t mean you can score goals at any level does it.
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That's not what I was saying though, Gaz.. Finishing, he should be good at, but getting to that point is harder in L1....
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That's not what I was saying though, Gaz.. Finishing, he should be good at, but getting to that point is harder in L1....
You are facing better keepers, you have much less time to make decisions and exicute the finish. You get less chances so the pressure on the finishes is far higher. When he was at Hythe he may have got 40 a season but had 200 good chances a season, who knows. Fergie obviously saw something in him to take a punt. Maybe he was forced to by financial restraints, who knows. What I do know is that if a manager has the resources to sign a proven finished article they would always do that over taking a punt on an unproven prospect.
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Unless you're arsene wenger