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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: The Red Baron on April 21, 2018, 08:06:01 pm
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Anyone else think we should have had two penalties today? The first for a foul on May after the defender misread the bounce. The second for a push in the back on Houghton.
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From my seat I wasn’t too sure about the first however the second looked a definite penalty.
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First was a maybe for me too but seen them given. The second was a blatant push in the back was expecting a flag up and a blown whistle but the west stand Lino as normal a complete waste of space
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Funny wasn't it how the assistant referee was quick to flag for two dives outside the box but wouldn't give anything inside the box.
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It's that same tired cliche...."outside of the box it's a foul". Pisses me right off. I'm in agreement with the other comments here...the first one a maybe, the second one absolutely nailed on.
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Yeah that - stitched on the second one andIve seen em given for the first
However this Ref was crap when he last reffed us and has not improved
.... and not for the first time I say we should now have 30 timed minutes for each half and cut out all the s**t we have to put up with time wasting wise
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First wasn't. May falling about like a tart. Second was nailed on.
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Houghton one a cert, May a strong possibility as the defender was trying to pull him back after the ball bounced past him.
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Houghton, definitely. Possibly didn't help his case that he made the most of the contact, but it was still a shove in the back.
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First one, I thought so but I can kind of see why it might not be given. Second one was absolute stone wall and I was borderline foaming at the mouth.
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push on Houghton was a penalty, but did we expect it to be given, No.
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Good footage of the second one here
https://www.facebook.com/tonyhdrfc/videos/10204025423591995/
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Clear push on Houghton.
Backs up my original thoughts.
Lino had a perfect view too.
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Good footage of the second one here
https://www.facebook.com/tonyhdrfc/videos/10204025423591995/
Absolutely nailed on AGAIN !
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and what about the third? a push on Marquis when he put his header just wide, he even tried to get the ref to look at the big screen when it was replayed
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Clear push on Houghton.
Backs up my original thoughts.
Lino had a perfect view too.
The lino was the famously incompetent Eddie Iderton
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Thought they would of both been soft when i saw in real time but i'd make the point that the ref was giving those as fouls all day long everywhere else (its always the case i know)
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Clear push on Houghton.
Backs up my original thoughts.
Lino had a perfect view too.
The lino was the famously incompetent Eddie Iderton
The lino wasn't Eddie Ilderton but even worse news for you is that I believe Mr Ilderton is the ref on Tuesday.
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and what about the third? a push on Marquis when he put his header just wide, he even tried to get the ref to look at the big screen when it was replayed
That one was just a bad header for me, live and on the replay.
Agree with the consensus on the other two, May it's a maybe, and Houghton was a stonewall penalty, right in front of me. A clear push but the officials were awful, awful as usual.
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Clear push on Houghton.
Backs up my original thoughts.
Lino had a perfect view too.
The lino was the famously incompetent Eddie Iderton
The lino wasn't Eddie Ilderton but even worse news for you is that I believe Mr Ilderton is the ref on Tuesday.
Correct on both counts. He will be as bad on Tuesday as he usually is when officiating us (and more than likely every other Team too)
Rate the Ref is a good feature to see who is coming and of course how they were rated afterwards. Poorly as it happens yesterday
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Good footage of the second one here
https://www.facebook.com/tonyhdrfc/videos/10204025423591995/
Not sure what the DRFC footage shows but when there is footage captured like this, surely it's time that the FA look seriously at this problem
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Good footage of the second one here
https://www.facebook.com/tonyhdrfc/videos/10204025423591995/
Not a penalty that.
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Go on then, why isn't it? blatant push in the back, which is a foul, and inside the penalty area, where a foul typically results in a penalty kick...
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Only as clear a pen as you could wish to see.
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He’s not been pushed, he’s got his body between the defender and the ball, felt contact and gone down. Contact doesn’t mean a penalty.
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He’s not been pushed, he’s got his body between the defender and the ball, felt contact and gone down. Contact doesn’t mean a penalty.
Give up! if you watch it properly you'll see at the point of contact initially his upper body thrusts forward quickly then recovers from the initial thrust and goes down you can't fake that.
He was pushed quite hard simple as
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This is a man who argues that penalties scored shouldn't be taken into account when looking at goal tallies, remember.
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He’s not been pushed, he’s got his body between the defender and the ball, felt contact and gone down. Contact doesn’t mean a penalty.
I agree, he’s waited for the contact and then fallen forward. He could’ve stayed on his feet.
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Outside of the box that is given as a free kick all day long.
The tool of a ref must have given ten free kicks for the same thing in other areas of the pitch.
Penalty for certain.
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Contact doesn’t mean a penalty.
No, but when you are pushed over by two arms in the back, that is a foul.
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and what about the third? a push on Marquis when he put his header just wide, he even tried to get the ref to look at the big screen when it was replayed
This wasn't a push, it was a pull on the left shoulder. Would of been harsh if given but there was contact to put Marquis off.
First one was one of those that is sometimes given but most of the time aren't.
Couldn't see Houghtons properly as it was infront of me so couldn't see if he'd been pushed or not.
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It was right in front of where we sit. He went down a bit easier than he should have but a definite penalty. The Lino was looking straight at it. We were then later awarded free kicks just out side the area that were nowhere near as bad. In fact one on Marquis wasn't even a foul.
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He’s not been pushed, he’s got his body between the defender and the ball, felt contact and gone down. Contact doesn’t mean a penalty.
I agree, he’s waited for the contact and then fallen forward. He could’ve stayed on his feet.
So pen or not Lee?
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Good footage of the second one here
https://www.facebook.com/tonyhdrfc/videos/10204025423591995/
Absolutely nailed on AGAIN !
Didn’t really see that at the time even though it was right in front of me. But that is a stonewall penalty.
That shitehole of a number 8 of their’s is the one who pushed Houghton and you can tell from his reaction that it’s a penalty.
He was straight into people’s faces the moment there was any controversy all day on Saturday. Here, he puts his hands up protesting innocence before Houghton has hit the ground, then insouciantly jogs 10 yards away in a “nothing to see here” mode. Before realising there’s no penalty given and THEN turning round to stick his finger in Houghton’s face. In that situation, if it had been a dive, or if there was minimal contact, a player on as short a fuse as he was would have been screaming at Houghton before he’d even hit the deck.
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Can't fault your logic there BST. He was first into everything all afternoon.
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He’s not been pushed, he’s got his body between the defender and the ball, felt contact and gone down. Contact doesn’t mean a penalty.
I agree, he’s waited for the contact and then fallen forward. He could’ve stayed on his feet.
So pen or not Lee?
Seen them given, it’s one of them you appeal for if it’s for us and go mad if other side gets it
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Good footage of the second one here
https://www.facebook.com/tonyhdrfc/videos/10204025423591995/
Absolutely nailed on AGAIN !
Didn’t really see that at the time even though it was right in front of me. But that is a stonewall penalty.
That shitehole of a number 8 of their’s is the one who pushed Houghton and you can tell from his reaction that it’s a penalty.
He was straight into people’s faces the moment there was any controversy all day on Saturday. Here, he puts his hands up protesting innocence before Houghton has hit the ground, then insouciantly jogs 10 yards away in a “nothing to see here” mode. Before realising there’s no penalty given and THEN turning round to stick his finger in Houghton’s face. In that situation, if it had been a dive, or if there was minimal contact, a player on as short a fuse as he was would have been screaming at Houghton before he’d even hit the deck.
The No. 8 was a cnut of the first order. Overall they struck me as a niggly bunch, but then you look at who their manager is. Robinson is up there with Westley, Evans and Cotterill as a manager I actively dislike and wouldn't want anywhere near DRFC.
They were helped by a weak referee of course. He always seemed the sort who would bottle a big decision and so it proved with the Houghton penalty.
I still think the one on May was a penalty. The defender lost his bearings, panicked and pulled May back. Probably a red card too, although I wouldn't have complained if we'd just got the pen.
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I too thought the one on May was a penalty. As you say TRB, May had got in front of the defender when he really had no right to do. The defender panicked and wrapped his arms all over May, pulling the two of them together and bringing them both down. It might have looked like an accidental collision to the red but it wasn’t.
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May was too honest. He should have made a meal of it and rolled over a few times. It was a definite penalty but you never get owt in the area unless you make it look like you've been a victim of GBH.
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May was too honest. He should have made a meal of it and rolled over a few times. It was a definite penalty but you never get owt in the area unless you make it look like you've been a victim of GBH.
Copps definitely WAS a victim of GBH when Sonny Bradley flattened him that time, and we still didn't get a f*cking penalty.
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How many penalty have we not got this year that we stone wall, so we should not expect any
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I think one or two of our players might have a bit of a reputation for diving, and that could deter officials from giving us decisions.
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I think we've only had 6 all season; Mason 3, Copps 2, and Whiteman 1; not counting the stupid Checkatrade of course.