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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Axholme Lion on June 18, 2018, 10:27:46 am
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Would you rather England win the world cup or Rovers get promotion?
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Being Welsh this is a no brainer for me :)
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I've seen Rovers promoted 5 times in my lifetime, and seen England make 2 semi final appearances at major tournaments. At this stage I'd definitely rather England win the World Cup, although if it was the case that only one could happen for the rest of my life the answer may be different.
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:chair: Rovers win promotion I’m a Scotsman
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England. Easily. Rovers will go up and down many times in my lifetime. England have never gotten close to a World Cup-winning side in my lifetime, so that's a legitimate once-in-a-lifetime thing for most of us if we're really lucky.
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If you are English it’s a complete no brainer.
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England for me, I was only 3 years old when we last won it and have no recollection of it, in fact my first World Cup memory is getting beat by West Germany in 1970
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I voted Rovers purely because if given a straight choice I'll always choose Rovers. I would love to see England win the World Cup but watching the national team in a pub will never compare to sharing in success with my beloved local side in person with friends and family. No chance.
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England for me. i was too young to have any recall of the World cup win, i have seen Rovers promoted in my time and no doubt i will again.
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If you are English it’s a complete no brainer.
A few years back i might have agreed but since the premiership is now an exclusive club full of prima donna’s from which my beloved team, rovers, have been excluded (due to obscene amounts of cash from sky et al), and since South Africa and the total Club over Country attitude of multi millionaire footballers, I couldn’t really give a flying f*ck about England. I’m English but if they choose club over country then so shall I!
I’ll enjoy the tournament and am interested what England do, and will pull for them I suppose, but win this or rovers getting promoted - no contest!
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I take the point that we may see Rovers promoted more than once but will be lucky to see England win the World Cup once, but, even though I'm English I'm Donny first. Rovers promoted please
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If you are English it’s a complete no brainer.
A few years back i might have agreed but since the premiership is now an exclusive club full of prima donna’s from which my beloved team, rovers, have been excluded (due to obscene amounts of cash from sky et al), and since South Africa and the total Club over Country attitude of multi millionaire footballers, I couldn’t really give a flying f*ck about England. I’m English but if they choose club over country then so shall I!
I’ll enjoy the tournament and am interested what England do, and will pull for them I suppose, but win this or rovers getting promoted - no contest!
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I see this point and understand to a degree. However if we genuinely did have an England side that was committed, intelligent, and talented enough to win the World Cup, full of young players who'd run their blood to water, would that change your mind at all?
It's a moot point I suppose as it'll probably never happen!
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Ask this question next season with rovers in playoffs, i think the result would be the opposite
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I am actually quite surprised that so many have gone for England over Rovers.
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I am actually quite surprised that so many have gone for England over Rovers.
Me too - but give it a week or so... ;)
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Well good question , Ive already seen England win the world cup , and also Rovers win promotion 9 times.. (I think).. But i was only 10 when England won world cup, Dunno really .. Can i sit on the fence for this one (And watch both) .
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What's the point rovers would come straight back down
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No brainer Rovers.
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What's the point rovers would come straight back down
And England wouldn't? ;)
Good point though, promotion this coming season is too soon for us unless something truly astounding happens.
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What's the point rovers would come straight back down
And England wouldn't? ;)
Good point though, promotion this coming season is too soon for us unless something truly astounding happens.
I am amazed when some of off our fans say promotion this season would be too soon. They were saying the same last season, so when will be the right time?
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What's the point rovers would come straight back down
And England wouldn't? ;)
Good point though, promotion this coming season is too soon for us unless something truly astounding happens.
I am amazed when some of off our fans say promotion this season would be too soon. They were saying the same last season, so when will be the right time?
We're punching above our weight in the Championship - ie we won't be able to splash out to buy a team like some can. If we are to be aiming to establish ourselves there we need to be strong even before strengthening after promotion. I'm wanting to go up there and be at least midtable, not struggle and collapse.
I believe we should be able to prepare and be ready for that in two seasons.
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Do we think either is likely?
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Rovers FA cup or England world cup. I would take Rovers
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I just think England winning would be amazing for the country as a whole imagine the scenes in towns and cities around the country and obviously taking the Monday after off hungover would be a bonus too!
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I was too young really to appreciate the 66 win but can recall the feel good factor all the way through to 1970 and we thought we were going to win it again. We had the Germans on their knees, then fate intervened and we started to learn what it's like to be a true football supporter.
Like most, I would take England, as you can't underestimate what a lift it gives the country as a whole.
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The football league is the bread and butter of football in my opinion, i love my Town more than the rest of the country, i guess thats my answer
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Remember being at Wembley to watch us beat Leeds to win promotion, or at Griffin Park when we won the title with the last kick of the season?
You just can't beat that.
I wouldn't trade those moments, or any yet to come in the future for anything England related. It's not even close.
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If the question is sacrifice Rovers ever being promoted, then that's a different proposition. I'd sacrifice one promotion in exchange for an England win.
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Club before country every time
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The point I'm trying to make is this:
If the same question had been asked 12 years ago in the run up to WC2006 we'd have potentially lost the experience of a promotion at Wembley vs Leeds or winning the title at Brentford in the way we did. Just erased from history and us not knowing any different.
As it turns out I wouldn't have sacrificed either one of those for a WC win.
Who knows what we'd be losing in the next 12 years?
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Why can't we have both about time we started sticking up for England as a sporting nation and get behind our teams instead of trying to have dig and looking for blame.
Would love to see rovers promoted next season but until we get someone in we can't see how it's going to turn out
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I would go for England as Rovers will get more opportunities.
It’s been a long time since 1966 hasn’t it.
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Absolute no brainer. Donny to get promoted
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I’m surprised by the reaction to this. I’d give anything to see us win the WC in my lifetime.
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1966 is such a long time ago and further back than most fans will remember. Even I was only 13 when we won and it didn't really register with me. It's about time we had something more current to enjoy whether it is European champions or the World Cup.
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I’m surprised by the reaction to this. I’d give anything to see us win the WC in my lifetime.
As someone who is on the Rovers side of the argument, I fully sympathise with you Gaz, and all people who are too young to have witnessed that wonderful day.
In a decade of zero unemployment, we were spoilt in many ways, and must seem like a load of selfish old tw*ts at times.
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I’m surprised by the reaction to this. I’d give anything to see us win the WC in my lifetime.
As someone who is on the Rovers side of the argument, I fully sympathise with you Gaz, and all people who are too young to have witnessed that wonderful day.
In a decade of zero unemployment, we were spoilt in many ways, and must seem like a load of selfish old tw*ts at times.
When people were kids, did you not want to play football for England and score the winner in a WC final? Must have just been me!
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I’m surprised by the reaction to this. I’d give anything to see us win the WC in my lifetime.
As someone who is on the Rovers side of the argument, I fully sympathise with you Gaz, and all people who are too young to have witnessed that wonderful day.
In a decade of zero unemployment, we were spoilt in many ways, and must seem like a load of selfish old tw*ts at times.
When people were kids, did you not want to play football for England and score the winner in a WC final? Must have just been me!
Geoff Hurst certainly did, Gaz.
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Do we think either is likely?
Well We have had a 5 year plan to get to the championship,the world cup is every 4 years,so 2 chances for England in that time,So sadly NO.Happy to be proven wrong though. :scarf:
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Well, in a way we have sacrificed promotion last season, so there is scope for the England win!
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Do we think either is likely?
Well We have had a 5 year plan to get to the championship,the world cup is every 4 years,so 2 chances for England in that time,So sadly NO.Happy to be proven wrong though. :scarf:
Sorry mate, only one chance for England in the timescale of our five year plan.
Next season is the third year so the next WC is after we get to the Championship.
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When people were kids, did you not want to play football for England and score the winner in a WC final? Must have just been me!
The dream was in FA Cup final for me, I can remember the dream even now, and it wasn't with Donny :ohmy:
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It would be a different decision for me had the question been England World Cup or Rovers FA Cup
But against promotion, England by a mile
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I’m surprised by the reaction to this. I’d give anything to see us win the WC in my lifetime.
Not for me, I'd love to see it don't get me wrong but I know it'll never compare to the best moments with Rovers.
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I watched England win the World Cup in 1966 but for me it rates well below Rovers winning at Wembley, winning at Brentford and winning at Cardiff in the JPT.
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England for me, the country would have a massive party.
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Rovers for me every time, can remember sat glued to the 66 final as a six year old, but club before country for me since then & forever.
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I'm a club over country man, but I have to say that winning the World Cup would be a huge boost to the country and to football.
However - although I'm more positive about this England team than I have been for a long time, I can't see us winning this one. So it's Rovers for promotion for me.
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I'm a club over country man, but I have to say that winning the World Cup would be a huge boost to the country and to football.
However - although I'm more positive about this England team than I have been for a long time, I can't see us winning this one. So it's Rovers for promotion for me.
Surely it's got nothing to do with the likelihood of either event - it's just a hypothetical "what would you prefer".
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TBH I wouldn't like to make that choice. I'd love to see England win a major trophy in the rest of my lifetime (Euros would do!). But I'd like to think Rovers have a promotion season or two to come.
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Staggered by the response on here. Club over country for me all day long. In fact I would go as far to say that I avoid England matches like the plague these days. I hope this doesn’t make me sound unpatriotic as I love my country. But I think it’s just ‘top flight’ football that leaves me cold these days.
I honestly don’t think I’d even watch football at all anymore were it not for my passion for DRFC.
Weird I know!
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A world cup win is something that every football fan in the country can enjoy for 4 years (and remember forever). A Rovers promotion is something that Rovers fans might enjoy for just one year.
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Hmmm.... England World Cup win every time for me. The explosion of passion when following England far exceeds the short burst when following the Rovers fully knowing that only a few thousand of us gives a shit compared to virtually the whole country including the ones who never watch football.
Rightly or wrongly, for all my years following the Rovers passionately, it still feels like I'm shagging my sisters ugly mate on the quiet. When I reveal it to people they look down their nose at me with a look of "really".
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Following the World Cup in 66 the late 60's were a great time to be English/British. There was a real feel good factor. The James Bond films were coming out, reflecting the 'Nobody does it better' feeling. The Italian Job also reflected the time. Exports of Minis escalated, Mini skirts were up!.
I don't think you can underestimate what a World Cup win can do, especially with Brexit on the horizon.
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A full on Brexit will do the country far more good than a world cup win.
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England to win WC.
It’s a once in a lifetime thing.
A harder comparison would be Rovers winning FA Cup or getting into Premier League.
In that case I’ll have FA Cup in cabinet thanks.
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A full on Brexit will do the country far more good than a world cup win.
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A full on Brexit will do the country far more good than a world cup win.
Well it’s been a great success so far....d’oh!!
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That's because Brexit hasn't happened yet and until it does it is all speculation.
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That's because Brexit hasn't happened yet and until it does it is all speculation.
Aye. Until they dropped the atom bomb on Hiroshima, they were still speculating on whether the effect would be really, really bad or really, really, REALLY bad.
They could know for certain until it happened.
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If Rovers were a championship side I think the out come of this poll would be totally different, go post the same poll on the Rotherscum forum and see what they say, asked this time last season I would have said promotion and laughed really hard at the fact you even asked, now I’d pick England without question.
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You have probably hit the nail firmly on the head there Dingle. Good luck for next season, except when you play us of course. It would be nice to see all of the League One Yorkshire clubs fighting it out up at the top end.