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Title: David Cotterill
Post by: Draytonian III on September 21, 2018, 07:30:24 pm
Looks like he’s going to be joining St Mirren
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: Haxey-Hood-DRFC on September 21, 2018, 08:35:51 pm
I really enjoyed seeing DC in the hoops. Still one of the best set piece specialists I've seen at the Keepmoat, He was very much a bright spark during difficult times, and I often wonder how great he would have been in our halcyon Championship days. His crosses were excellent and he wasn't too shabby at finding the net either. I wish him well.  :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: RedArmy on September 21, 2018, 08:52:23 pm
A big part of a special team. That 2012/2013 team is something I’ll never forget.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: The Red Baron on September 21, 2018, 08:56:36 pm
I'm glad to see he's getting sorted out. Too good a player to be without a club.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 21, 2018, 10:12:15 pm
I've never seen any Rovers player strike shots from distance so hard and so accurately. And that includes Glynn.

 He was phenomenal in that promotion season.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: Bentley Bullet on September 21, 2018, 10:29:11 pm
A player of absolute quality, the likes of which we haven't seen since.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: Nudga on September 21, 2018, 10:38:14 pm
It's funny, I remember him getting dogs abuse on here and in the stadium for supposedly being a lazy Kitson.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: Bentley Bullet on September 21, 2018, 10:41:57 pm
Nothing is surprising in the minds of football fans. I know someone who thinks Copps is shite!
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: boro_rover on September 21, 2018, 10:43:47 pm
One if those players who did nothing for 85 minutes, then either scored a worldie or would drop a 40 yard pass right on the money to give us a goal.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: auckleyflyer on September 21, 2018, 10:45:56 pm
Lived next door to him during his time with us. Read all sorts on here but found him quiet, polite and just a young decent fella. Bloody car used to make me jump every day tho!!!
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: RedJ on September 21, 2018, 10:50:16 pm
It's funny, I remember him getting dogs abuse on here and in the stadium for supposedly being a lazy Kitson.

He was a lazy Kitson. But when you can do the sort of thing he can do to win a game in an instant you kind of earn the right to be a lazy Kitson.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: Lesonthewest on September 21, 2018, 10:54:49 pm
I've never seen any Rovers player strike shots from distance so hard and so accurately. And that includes Glynn.

 He was phenomenal in that promotion season.

Glynn took some beating from dead ball situations, 20 yards out was like a penalty for him, but Cotterill was as good, bone idle, but as good, also better at crossing, but IF we were to compare them Glynn was the better all round player.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: IDM on September 21, 2018, 11:09:32 pm
One if those players who did nothing for 85 minutes, then either scored a worldie or would drop a 40 yard pass right on the money to give us a goal.

That game at home vs Colchester springs to mind..
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: RoversAlias on September 21, 2018, 11:18:16 pm
One if those players who did nothing for 85 minutes, then either scored a worldie or would drop a 40 yard pass right on the money to give us a goal.

That game at home vs Colchester springs to mind..

Wasn't that Saunders' last game in charge? We were pretty mediocre that day but up popped Cotterill with a piece of quality to win us the game.

I'll never forget his debut goal at Walsall. Never in a million years thought he'd score from there but he did.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: RedJ on September 21, 2018, 11:30:58 pm
One if those players who did nothing for 85 minutes, then either scored a worldie or would drop a 40 yard pass right on the money to give us a goal.

That game at home vs Colchester springs to mind..

Wasn't that Saunders' last game in charge? We were pretty mediocre that day but up popped Cotterill with a piece of quality to win us the game.

I'll never forget his debut goal at Walsall. Never in a million years thought he'd score from there but he did.

Aye. Don't think he scored again (that season) after that. Think he still got a few assists though.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 22, 2018, 12:23:00 am
Saunders said something that was near-genius insight about Cotterill in a radio interview.

He said that Cotterill had underperformed everywhere because managers had told him to focus on improving his weaknesses. He said that when he signed Cotterill, he told him to forget about his weaknesses. He told him to concentrate on his strengths and let Saunders build a team that accommodated his weaknesses.

That was a brilliant piece of management and it produced the most ruthless machine of a Rovers team that I have ever seen.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: VivaRovers on September 22, 2018, 03:43:13 am
I was doing the Rovers Player commentary the second half of the League One title season, and there was a stat I kept trotting out because it amazed me everytime; in that Cotterill had been involved half of all Rovers league goals.

In the end of the 62 goals Rovers scored in League One that season, Cotterill was involved in 30 of them; 10 goals and 20 assists. That's a frankly phenomenal return in any season, let alone a title winning one.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: Superspy on September 22, 2018, 07:30:49 am
Oh why not, it is a match day after all...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBvohThYWYA

That first goal just made me giggle. Brilliant.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: ravenrover on September 22, 2018, 09:57:27 am
I think I remember him making a tackle once
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 22, 2018, 12:53:10 pm
He didn't have to make tackles. There were plenty in that side who could tackle for two.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: hoolahoop on September 22, 2018, 03:55:12 pm
It's funny, I remember him getting dogs abuse on here and in the stadium for supposedly being a lazy Kitson.

He did 50% of the time .
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: PDX_Rover on September 22, 2018, 05:29:29 pm
Nearly all of those goals are top class.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: drfchound on September 22, 2018, 10:35:26 pm
I remember the one he lashed in a Elland Road when we won 2-1.
A top quality finish.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: DaveDRFC on September 24, 2018, 10:24:42 am
Article on the BBC today about his struggles with depression.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45579754

Horrible illness, hope he manages to get through it.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: Alickismyhero on September 24, 2018, 11:05:03 am
A very good article, depression should not be taken lightly, just think of Garry Speed, Clark Carlisle. If my memory serves me right I think DC was also going through a divorce when at Donny but I am not sure about that, life's tribulations, no one is exempt.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: Scooter on September 24, 2018, 04:50:43 pm
This is a really interesting read and is far more prevalent than people realise. What David talks about is similar to what players are telling me during my research interviews.

I count 8 current football league or premier league players who have spoken about mental health publicly this year. I wonder how many more we get before Christmas
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: DaveDRFC on September 24, 2018, 05:00:07 pm
He isn't wrong with anything he says with regards to clubs/managers needing to do more and the amount of footballers who probably have a problem with anxiety/depression or some sort.

An angle he doesn't touch on is how footballers who are released at 16-18, some of whom go from being the next 'big thing' to absolutely nothing overnight, suffer as well. There is almost no support in place for them and they're left to pretty much fall by the wayside.

Rigo, there was another good article on BBC the other day about George Green who was tipped for big things at Everton, he now plays for Chester after some struggles the last few years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45476430
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: rich1471 on September 24, 2018, 06:08:45 pm
He isn't wrong with anything he says with regards to clubs/managers needing to do more and the amount of footballers who probably have a problem with anxiety/depression or some sort.

An angle he doesn't touch on is how footballers who are released at 16-18, some of whom go from being the next 'big thing' to absolutely nothing overnight, suffer as well. There is almost no support in place for them and they're left to pretty much fall by the wayside.

Rigo, there was another good article on BBC the other day about George Green who was tipped for big things at Everton, he now plays for Chester after some struggles the last few years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45476430
I read that artical he said he will have blown half a million so far , something needs to done to help young kids from going from £500 a week to 10k and they should not feel embarrassed to say they need help
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: drfchound on September 24, 2018, 09:07:53 pm
He isn't wrong with anything he says with regards to clubs/managers needing to do more and the amount of footballers who probably have a problem with anxiety/depression or some sort.

An angle he doesn't touch on is how footballers who are released at 16-18, some of whom go from being the next 'big thing' to absolutely nothing overnight, suffer as well. There is almost no support in place for them and they're left to pretty much fall by the wayside.





Clubs sign up numerous “promising” young lads and build them up to be the future of their clubs.
Although many of them are little more than just being promising, they get into the mindset that they have all but secured their futures as pro footballers and then can’t handle it when they are shown the door.
I have known quite a few young lads who have given the game up totally after being released.
Sometimes when the Rovers parade dozens of young lads around the pitch I wonder how many of them even stay in the game after the age of 18.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: drfchound on September 24, 2018, 09:32:46 pm
Oh and the other thing I forgot to mention are the numbers of parents who delight in telling me that their lad plays for Leeds or the Rovers or Sheffield Weds etc.
When I ask what level they play at and they tell me that the lad is ten years old I just have to let it go.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: The Red Baron on October 17, 2018, 04:32:09 pm
David Cotterill has just announced his retirement from professional football.

https://mobile.twitter.com/cotterill_david/status/1052578049949126656?p=v
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: Pancho Regan on October 18, 2018, 07:51:22 am
A very eloquent and dignified statement from Cotts.
I'm chuffed that his achievement with Rovers ranks highly in his list of treasured memories.

I wish Cotts the very best of luck for the future, and thanks for providing some magic moments for me as a Donny fan.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: GazLaz on October 18, 2018, 08:27:16 am
A very eloquent and dignified statement from Cotts.
I'm chuffed that his achievement with Rovers ranks highly in his list of treasured memories.

I wish Cotts the very best of luck for the future, and thanks for providing some magic moments for me as a Donny fan.


* From his agent!
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: RoversAlias on October 18, 2018, 09:27:34 am
A very eloquent and dignified statement from Cotts.
I'm chuffed that his achievement with Rovers ranks highly in his list of treasured memories.

I wish Cotts the very best of luck for the future, and thanks for providing some magic moments for me as a Donny fan.


* From his agent!

Unnecessary of you. It's a little retirement post, why would he have his agent write it? And anyway, what does it matter?

Best of luck to him in whatever he does next, he was a great player for us and the way he's brought his mental health issues to light recently will help the discussion and movement towards destigmatising depression and related illnesses in our society.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: vietaff on October 18, 2018, 06:28:44 pm
He isn't wrong with anything he says with regards to clubs/managers needing to do more and the amount of footballers who probably have a problem with anxiety/depression or some sort.

An angle he doesn't touch on is how footballers who are released at 16-18, some of whom go from being the next 'big thing' to absolutely nothing overnight, suffer as well. There is almost no support in place for them and they're left to pretty much fall by the wayside.

Rigo, there was another good article on BBC the other day about George Green who was tipped for big things at Everton, he now plays for Chester after some struggles the last few years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45476430
I read that artical he said he will have blown half a million so far , something needs to done to help young kids from going from £500 a week to 10k and they should not feel embarrassed to say they need help

Spot on Rigo, being friends with Sean Thornton I have heard first hand exactly the same from him. Being from Ireland and a young kid he was given a mountain of luxuries but no one there to help him understand what it was all about, what he was supposed to do, how he was meant to cope with it all. He openly admitted he wished someone like Sir Alex was at Sunderland when he made his big move to nurture him....if he had done that then no doubt he would have played in the PL for years to come. Sadly he met drink and that took over his life (along with a missus who played with his emotions) and sadly he spent the latter of his career playing in Wales and back home in Ireland.
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: GazLaz on October 18, 2018, 07:59:55 pm
He isn't wrong with anything he says with regards to clubs/managers needing to do more and the amount of footballers who probably have a problem with anxiety/depression or some sort.

An angle he doesn't touch on is how footballers who are released at 16-18, some of whom go from being the next 'big thing' to absolutely nothing overnight, suffer as well. There is almost no support in place for them and they're left to pretty much fall by the wayside.

Rigo, there was another good article on BBC the other day about George Green who was tipped for big things at Everton, he now plays for Chester after some struggles the last few years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45476430
I read that artical he said he will have blown half a million so far , something needs to done to help young kids from going from £500 a week to 10k and they should not feel embarrassed to say they need help

Spot on Rigo, being friends with Sean Thornton I have heard first hand exactly the same from him. Being from Ireland and a young kid he was given a mountain of luxuries but no one there to help him understand what it was all about, what he was supposed to do, how he was meant to cope with it all. He openly admitted he wished someone like Sir Alex was at Sunderland when he made his big move to nurture him....if he had done that then no doubt he would have played in the PL for years to come. Sadly he met drink and that took over his life (along with a missus who played with his emotions) and sadly he spent the latter of his career playing in Wales and back home in Ireland.


Did he not have any family to keep an eye on him?
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: Paul Simpson on October 18, 2018, 08:39:25 pm
Class act. Thoroughly enjoyed watching him play for us 👍😀
Title: Re: David Cotterill
Post by: i_ateallthepies on October 20, 2018, 02:00:44 pm
He isn't wrong with anything he says with regards to clubs/managers needing to do more and the amount of footballers who probably have a problem with anxiety/depression or some sort.

An angle he doesn't touch on is how footballers who are released at 16-18, some of whom go from being the next 'big thing' to absolutely nothing overnight, suffer as well. There is almost no support in place for them and they're left to pretty much fall by the wayside.

Rigo, there was another good article on BBC the other day about George Green who was tipped for big things at Everton, he now plays for Chester after some struggles the last few years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45476430
I read that artical he said he will have blown half a million so far , something needs to done to help young kids from going from £500 a week to 10k and they should not feel embarrassed to say they need help

Spot on Rigo, being friends with Sean Thornton I have heard first hand exactly the same from him. Being from Ireland and a young kid he was given a mountain of luxuries but no one there to help him understand what it was all about, what he was supposed to do, how he was meant to cope with it all. He openly admitted he wished someone like Sir Alex was at Sunderland when he made his big move to nurture him....if he had done that then no doubt he would have played in the PL for years to come. Sadly he met drink and that took over his life (along with a missus who played with his emotions) and sadly he spent the latter of his career playing in Wales and back home in Ireland.


Did he not have any family to keep an eye on him?

Of course, because everyone knows youngsters take heed of every piece of good advice given to them by caring family members.