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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Boomstick on January 28, 2019, 07:39:34 pm
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Can we give them the bare minimum and get more rovers fans in?
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We have to. Their lot can make a right racket, give them as few as we possibly can.
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As usual we’ll probably give them too many tickets as the club seems to think it’s better to have plenty away fans , all that does is make us look a poor supported home side . I say keep them to the Absolute minimum and push our tickets . Stop pandering to the away team .
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As usual we’ll probably give them too many tickets as the club se to think it’s better to have plenty away fans , all that does is make us look a poor supported home side . I say keep them to the Absolute minimum and push our tickets . Stop pandering to the away team .
What.????
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We got 7500 home fans in the last match. We need to give them 3800 tickets. We won’t sell 10.5k unless it’s a tenner and not on tv
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Don't want to give them nearly 4000 with noise them lot make, would like to think we could get 10,000 with playing a premiership team.
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Are we even able/allowed to alter the away end configuration nowadays?
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15% we have to give by fa rules. I'm not sure what the actual capacity is but own as we have lost seats, but based on 14500 we only need to give the, 2200.
I hope the club get this right. I can see there being a big demand for this game.
Of course a Friday or Monday night game will affect this.
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If they take some of the sponsorship away that's covering a good chunk of seats Palace could have 3500 in the North stand alone. We filled the stadium in the championship that way no reason to not do it for Palace. I'd struggle to see anyone claim segregation would prevent this as it didn't only a few years ago. We'd then have around 11500 home tickets to sell
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If it’s on telly I actually don’t see them bringing that many
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I think we should give them the usual 2,800-3,000(whatever it usually is) initial allocation,then make a decision depending on other factors when they are known,like ticket price,what day/time fixture is set,which games are on tv etc.If we are hopeful for over 10,000 Rovers,then don't give anymore to Palace.
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If it's live on TV Sunday or Monday night, will we sell out ?.
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If it's live on TV Sunday or Monday night, will we sell out ?.
It should be one of those “I was there” matches.
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If the club kep the tickets the same price as Oldham surely a sell out? The extra tv money would offset any shortfall in gate receipts. It's an extra game after all.
It would be a crying shame to see empty seats for this one. Such a historic game for the club and supporters.
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Oldham was a "I was there match" imho
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In the Championship it was free wasn’t it
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Oldham was a "I was there match" imho
Agreed.
So should the Palace game.
How many of us has seen a Rovers play in a R5 match?
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Can we give them the bare minimum and get more rovers fans in?
yes absolutely!!!!
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If it's live on TV Sunday or Monday night, will we sell out ?.
No and No - most "casual" Fans would take the opprtunity to watch on TV at home or in Pub because a) its cheaper and b) without doubt you see more though the atmosphere is crap unless you are in a Pub throwing Beer up in the air (what a waste - Ian Dury was right)
Palace Fans would be tempted to do that especially if the game was on a challenging day i.e. Monday night
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I have faith in SM and co to help the club get this right. A lot will hinge on tv I suppose, sadly.
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I have faith in SM and co to help the club get this right. A lot will hinge on tv I suppose, sadly.
Simples don’t have it televised
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It's an interesting point. Can a club say no to tv?
Our record in front of the cameras is not too great I seem to recall.
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Fingers crossed for Friday night
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It's an interesting point. Can a club say no to tv?
Our record in front of the cameras is not too great I seem to recall.
We have had some brilliant results in front of the cameras.
Not too many bad ones.
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Friday would be the best scenario or maybe Saturday midday.
This will be on tv so no chance of Saturday 3pm
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I’d just love this to be a traditional 3pm sat kickoff time. I think a Monday would be a disaster
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Monday would make this home draw very bittersweet
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Any time apart from Saturday evening for me..
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Not Friday as we have a game on the Tuesday of that week
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No chance of that, I think Chelsea and Man U will be Friday night. If we are Thursday night it could be a poor crowd if televised.
We will have to wait and see the TV schedule. We will not be the main draw.
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No doubt we will be consulted. But do bear in mind that Palace will also get 45% of the gate receipts. So without TV revenues, and keeping the ticket price as low as possible, means the club will not benefit financially.
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Did they ever fetch more than a 1000 when we played in the championship?
With 3 weeks notice it’s not going to be cheap for them on the train either.
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It's an interesting point. Can a club say no to tv?
Our record in front of the cameras is not too great I seem to recall.
You could try, but that wouldn't sit very well with the FA at all.
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No chance of that, I think Chelsea and Man U will be Friday night. If we are Thursday night it could be a poor crowd if televised.
We will have to wait and see the TV schedule. We will not be the main draw.
Thursday is too soon and we would have to re arrange the Tuesday and Saturday games..
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The only reason I wouldn't want a Friday or Monday night is that it will make it more difficult for some to get there including young families with kids and being the family club we are, I'm sure that will be a consideration.
I'm sure the club will take everything into account but bearing in mind there was still 2000 seats left over on Saturday, we want to fill them the best way we can. I'm sure the initial allocation for Palace will be limited, then home sales will be monitored for demand.
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No chance of that, I think Chelsea and Man U will be Friday night. If we are Thursday night it could be a poor crowd if televised.
We will have to wait and see the TV schedule. We will not be the main draw.
Thursday is too soon and we would have to re arrange the Tuesday and Saturday games..
Plus there are never FA Cup games on the Thursday... not unless it's a replay, in which case it's a midweek fixture already anyway.
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If it’s on telly I actually don’t see them bringing that many
Then you don't know Palace fans . Their supporters will be looking seriously at reaching the final. Nothing to keep them at home is there ?
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I expect them to bring loads of fans.
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Chelsea v Manchester will be a weekend match the Thursday league will have started by then.
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The only reason I wouldn't want a Friday or Monday night is that it will make it more difficult for some to get there including young families with kids and being the family club we are, I'm sure that will be a consideration.
I'm sure the club will take everything into account but bearing in mind there was still 2000 seats left over on Saturday, we want to fill them the best way we can. I'm sure the initial allocation for Palace will be limited, then home sales will be monitored for demand.
it should help a little that’s kids are on holiday if on the Monday
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Did they ever fetch more than a 1000 when we played in the championship?
With 3 weeks notice it’s not going to be cheap for them on the train either.
They travel in big numbers for big games and this is certainly one of those . Of course they are also a Prem team now
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No doubt we will be consulted. But do bear in mind that Palace will also get 45% of the gate receipts. So without TV revenues, and keeping the ticket price as low as possible, means the club will not benefit financially.
Whats your take on it SM, price wise? I'm sure the club will listen to your opinion.
Lets not forget the club has extra coffers already from the cup run. There seems to be a confidence that this tie will attract the cameras.
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Did they ever fetch more than a 1000 when we played in the championship?
With 3 weeks notice it’s not going to be cheap for them on the train either.
They travel in big numbers for big games and this is certainly one of those . Of course they are also a Prem team now
They once filled the away end.
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i wonder what palace and chelsea charged for their 4th rd games. plenty of empty seats at both grounds and chelsea had the whole top tier of the main stand closed.
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I mixed up the Spurs v Chelsea Thursday game which was a League Cup game with the FA cup thank god, sorry folks.
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i wonder what palace and chelsea charged for their 4th rd games. plenty of empty seats at both grounds and chelsea had the whole top tier of the main stand closed.
Wednesday weren’t a big attraction though were they.
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Looks like a Sunday (did a search for Palace fixtures) time to be determined.
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I expect them to bring loads of fans.
Mid winter game in the frozen North, might be too much for their soft Southern skin to bare
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Townsend did well at Newcastle
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They once filled the away end.
Yeah, when it was free. Not sure many of them can afford to go north of the Thames AND pay to get in.
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Definitely give them as few tickets as poss, and ideally on a lower tear so we can gob on them through the game - memories of League Cup game in 2003 when a bunch of aging "sarf Landan" wannabe pretty boy gangster coke heads did that to us throughout the game. Cops eventually sorted them out, but the place is more Crystal Meth than Crystal Palace. They're a health hazard, I'm not sure the stench of more than 2,000 of the scumbags would get carried away on the wind quickly enough.
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No doubt we will be consulted. But do bear in mind that Palace will also get 45% of the gate receipts. So without TV revenues, and keeping the ticket price as low as possible, means the club will not benefit financially.
Whats your take on it SM, price wise? I'm sure the club will listen to your opinion.
Lets not forget the club has extra coffers already from the cup run. There seems to be a confidence that this tie will attract the cameras.
I don't have one yet. The financials will be key. The club will analyse this properly, like they always do, and base it on the information they have.
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I'd go for cat A £20, everywhere else £18.
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SM, out of curiosity, what do you think the chances are of us giving Palace the absolute bare minimum? ie 2,200 ish, and keeping the rest for ourselves?
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SM, out of curiosity, what do you think the chances are of us giving Palace the absolute bare minimum? ie 2,200 ish, and keeping the rest for ourselves?
Judging by our attempts to fill the stadium in recent years I would say that's a non-starter.
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Let’s not forget that Sheff Weds are playing at Rotherham on the 16th Feb and that’s a 1300 kick off. Sheff Utd also entertain Reading at 1500, with Barnsley ALSO playing at home... so policing will need to be considered and coincide with that, especially if Palace are bringing a fair few!
So might need to be a much later kick off or on a different day.
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SM, out of curiosity, what do you think the chances are of us giving Palace the absolute bare minimum? ie 2,200 ish, and keeping the rest for ourselves?
The last round was against Oldham. This is against Palace, but more importantly it is the 5th round of the FA Cup. I know the FA Cup has gone downhill in many people's eyes in the last 30 years, but this will catch the imagination of a lot of people.
Even if we only sell 10,000 and there are 1000 tickets unsold, that's no great loss in the bigger picture. The more Donny fans we can get in there the more are going to be drawn into the club long term. At worst it is an investment, and gives the public of Doncaster the opportunity to see the 5th round of the cup.
Giving Palace 15% max is undoubtedly the right decision :scarf: :thumbsup: :scarf:
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SM, out of curiosity, what do you think the chances are of us giving Palace the absolute bare minimum? ie 2,200 ish, and keeping the rest for ourselves?
Judging by our attempts to fill the stadium in recent years I would say that's a non-starter.
Which occasions are you comparing here?
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SM, out of curiosity, what do you think the chances are of us giving Palace the absolute bare minimum? ie 2,200 ish, and keeping the rest for ourselves?
Judging by our attempts to fill the stadium in recent years I would say that's a non-starter.
Which occasions are you comparing here?
You want a specific one? I was talking generally. We have always struggled to fill the stadium, even when we made it free we couldn't fill it.
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I mean this game is one of those that is a bit more attractive than the average league game, even when that league game is against West Ham (11344) or Newcastle (full).
The last Palace gates in the league were:
9,362
14,322
9,779
12,031
So it's not much of a leap to see how we can get 10 to 11k for this.
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The Stoke attendance was 13,321.
I can see us selling 10,000 if it's a good kick off time, so I would give Palace 3000. North stand only, so that would give us approx 11,500 max home tickets.
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I think the North Stand holds 3000, so that will be their initial allocation?
Given that the capacity is no longer 15,000'ish, we'll be looking at 'say' 14,200'ish available tickets, less 3000 allowance for Palace, leaving 11,200'ish for home supporters.
We sold round about 7,000'ish home tickets for the Oldham game, but that was at a 'normal' kick off time and not televised. Somehow, to fill the stadium, we are going to have to find 4,000'ish more supporters for the Palace game, with the likelihood that this gamewill be televised and won't be at 3pm on the Saturday.
A nice problem to have for the Club, but nevertheless, a quandary. TV monies could be the major difference for us, financially speaking, but who knows?
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At 10 quid a ticket we would easily have 11000 home fans in for this game.
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They once filled the away end.
Yeah, when it was free. Not sure many of them can afford to go north of the Thames AND pay to get in.
What, are you considering all that money that the government puts into the SE.
They would be like American WW2 soldiers flashing their cash up in impoverished Donny. ;)
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Agree, North Stand only for Palace to start with. Then hold back the North End of the East Stand and if (when) our own ticket sales are slow sell that to them. If we look like we can sell out then give it to us.
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I know this wont be a popular opinion but £10 a ticket shouldn't be happening,as SM says with having to give 45% away to Palace the club wont make any money,they probably didn't on Saturday..
If we cant get a bloody good crowd at £20 a ticket at home in the 5th round of the cup against a premiership side then its a bloody sad state of affairs as far as I'm concerned and something that we would need to remember the next time the word Ambition gets raised....
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I know this wont be a popular opinion but £10 a ticket shouldn't be happening,as SM says with having to give 45% away to Palace the club wont make any money,they probably didn't on Saturday..
If we cant get a bloody good crowd at £20 a ticket at home in the 5th round of the cup against a premiership side then its a bloody sad state of affairs as far as I'm concerned and something that we would need to remember the next time the word Ambition gets raised....
Meet you half way then ... £15!
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Yes North only for them, we are in the 5th of the FA cup at home, lets not give them any advantage, £15 sounds good
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Keep your powder dry until the TV schedule comes along
That would/could be a death knell for a HUGE Crowd and then Ticket prices might have to be priced to compete
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TV money would exceed our gate receipts even if we sold out at full price, I would have thought.??
If we are on TV then the £10 price should be set to encourage a decent crowd in the stadium..
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I agree this should not be a tenner a ticket. £15-£20 is more than acceptable to come and watch Rovers in Round 5 against a Premier League team.
I also don't agree with restricting the away allocation. We want to fill the ground, so give Palace the North Stand as their initial allocation and see if home tickets sell well in that period. I hope and expect they will, the town should be well up for this one.
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TV money would exceed our gate receipts even if we sold out at full price, I would have thought.??
If we are on TV then the £10 price should be set to encourage a decent crowd in the stadium..
I suppose it depends on concessions.
Say 7000 tickets at £20 and 7000 at a tenner as there a loads of older fans and kids at matches.
That would be £210,000.
So in that case the tv money wouldn't be more than gate receipts.
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Keep your powder dry until the TV schedule comes along
That would/could be a death knell for a HUGE Crowd and then Ticket prices might have to be priced to compete
This. A Friday night and in particular Monday night would severely hamper travelling rovers ( of which there are many) plus palace fans.
Yes, people will pull out stops to get there, I know I will. But sometimes life and work gets in the way.
If it’s a Monday night kickoff at £20 a ticket, there will be empty seats. And probably quite a few which would be sad.
Such a shame that a momentous occasion could potentially be partially ruined because of theh big tv companies.
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Friday night is the only time this game could take place and I would be able to attend. Otherwise I'll be hoping to find a pub in Prague that's showing it!
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I checked the ticket pricing for wimbledons game at home to West Ham.
Chemflow End (standing)
Adult - £20
Concession - £12
Under 18 - £5
RyGas Terrace (standing)
Adult - £17
Concession - £11
Under 18 - £4
John Green (seating)
Adult - £24
Concession - £15
Under 18 - £10
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TV money would exceed our gate receipts even if we sold out at full price, I would have thought.??
If we are on TV then the £10 price should be set to encourage a decent crowd in the stadium..
I suppose it depends on concessions.
Say 7000 tickets at £20 and 7000 at a tenner as there a loads of older fans and kids at matches.
That would be £210,000.
So in that case the tv money wouldn't be more than gate receipts.
Don’t forget we only get 45% of that..
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TV money would exceed our gate receipts even if we sold out at full price, I would have thought.??
If we are on TV then the £10 price should be set to encourage a decent crowd in the stadium..
I suppose it depends on concessions.
Say 7000 tickets at £20 and 7000 at a tenner as there a loads of older fans and kids at matches.
That would be £210,000.
So in that case the tv money wouldn't be more than gate receipts.
Don’t forget we only get 45% of that..
So would we get all of the tv money or would Palace be entitled to half or at least a share of it.
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IMHO the sensible options are cheap tickets if on TV, and normal prices if not..
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Is tv money shared or does it all go to home team?
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I don’t know, but I would think being on telly and the gate share would bring in more than gate receipts alone..
Plus there may be more advertising revenue on TV
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….. plus pie and beer sale revenue.
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15% we have to give by fa rules. I'm not sure what the actual capacity is but own as we have lost seats, but based on 14500 we only need to give the, 2200.
I hope the club get this right. I can see there being a big demand for this game.
Of course a Friday or Monday night game will affect this.
Thats roughly 2200?
I remember last time we played Palace, there was controversy because we gave our fans free tickets. Our fans had half the north stand, and were segregated from the Palace fans. I also seem to recall, we had a charity shirt on that day and won.
Get the tickets a tenner and the lads in the new triangle kit, couple of good omens there.
I would also like to see the tickets really pushed for the home fans, would that not mean more gate money for us & less for them?
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As it's a cup game and gate receipts are shared, don't Palace have to agree any price reductions ?
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No. Fa states home team decide ticket price.
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….. plus pie and beer sale revenue.
We don't get all the revenue. Centreplate pocket that and we get a percentage!!
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No, I understand its 45% of gate receipts, not dependent on home or away allocation. I will have to check the TV money share, but I think that is the same.
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No, I understand its 45% of gate receipts, not dependent on home or away allocation. I will have to check the TV money share, but I think that is the same.
Yes 45% of total gate receipts. Palace may push for higher prices to get more out of it. Then again, the revenue either way will be chicken feed to them!
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From the useful BBC Guide:
The Football Association’s rules stipulate that gate receipts are split 45% to each side, with 10% going to the governing body. If there is a replay, gates are split 42.5% each with 15% going to the FA.
If a Premier League team sold 50,000 seats at £30 or more each that would generate a minimum of £1.5 million. So an away tie to a big Premier League club could mean a windfall of at least £675,000 from gate receipts alone.
There will be 26 FA Cup games televised on BBC or BT Sport this season. Games are televised from the first round.
The TV money increases as the tournament goes on and teams are paid half the TV money again if there is a replay. There is no TV payment for the Wembley semi-finals or final.
The first FA Cup match broadcast live on BBC TV was the 1938 Wembley final between Preston North End and Huddersfield Town. Preston won 1-0 from a penalty in the last minute of extra time.
5th round and 6th round both net £247,500 for a televised game.
Anecdotally, it appears the TV money is split, although I cant find the ratios.
Having said that FA Cup and Capital One Cup represent huge financial possibilities for clubs in lower leagues. Last year when Manchester United visited Cambridge United for the 3rd Round tie they game was shown live on TV and Cambridge made £144,000 with Television Fees for live broadcast. They held United to a 0-0 draw and earned a very lucrative replay where they also received £72,000 for Television fee plus the massive 45% gate receipt revenue. So FA Cup represent a good value for money as far as lower league teams are concerned.
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Assuming we get a minimum of 45% of the TV fee, that’s almost £112K on top of the share of gate receipts..
Whichever way you look at it, the cup run has been quite lucrative..
£405,000 in prize money alone for the first 4 rounds.. you could argue that Herbie Kane’s goal at Chorley prevented us from getting f**k all prize money..
Add on TV money and the prospect of £360 grand if we win in round 5, IF.. and then maybe £250 grand for potentially being the last L1 team in the competition, we could net well over a million..
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In the 3rd round both teams got £150k for live TV coverage
http://www.thefa.com/news/2018/dec/06/fa-cup-on-tv-third-round-061218
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I think the club can market the shit out of this game - maybe spend some money on facebook and twitter ads as well as traditional marketing. It's been over 60 years since we've been in this position and everyone in Doncaster with even a slight interest in football should know about that! :scarf:
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
... and then go on to beat the Winners of AFC Wimbledon v Millwall with a bit of luck
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
Since when did we draw Leeds.??
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
... and then go on to beat the Winners of AFC Wimbledon v Millwall with a bit of luck
I knew we'd get a crap draw. It was nailed on to be miles away from home or somewhere we'd get a crap ticket allocation. The pubs around there will be heaving with Wall, with or without tickets.
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
... and then go on to beat the Winners of AFC Wimbledon v Millwall with a bit of luck
I knew we'd get a crap draw. It was nailed on to be miles away from home or somewhere we'd get a crap ticket allocation. The pubs around there will be heaving with Wall, with or without tickets.
You derided the Everton fans for roaming the streets rather than go straight in the ground
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
... and then go on to beat the Winners of AFC Wimbledon v Millwall with a bit of luck
I knew we'd get a crap draw. It was nailed on to be miles away from home or somewhere we'd get a crap ticket allocation. The pubs around there will be heaving with Wall, with or without tickets.
You derided the Everton fans for roaming the streets rather than go straight in the ground
Won't be looking for a tear up carrying blades though. It's a local game and if it's on tv it's the next best thing. There'll be no crowd trouble at this game, why would there be? If Wimbledon beat us then good luck to them.
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
... and then go on to beat the Winners of AFC Wimbledon v Millwall with a bit of luck
I knew we'd get a crap draw. It was nailed on to be miles away from home or somewhere we'd get a crap ticket allocation. The pubs around there will be heaving with Wall, with or without tickets.
You derided the Everton fans for roaming the streets rather than go straight in the ground
Won't be looking for a tear up carrying blades though. It's a local game and if it's on tv it's the next best thing. There'll be no crowd trouble at this game, why would there be? If Wimbledon beat us then good luck to them.
Yeah, really?
If Wimbledon did win and sung that old chestnut “championship, you’re having a laugh” then I am sure the Millwall lads would all just say well done chaps.
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I've had discussions with the club earlier today.
At the moment it's early doors, so we need to wait and see if we are selected for TV. If we are covered by TV that will affect the price charged for tickets. We will also monitor the Palace away support. If there is no great demand from them, then they won't receive the extra allocation.
I'm afraid it's going to be watch this space!
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15% we have to give by fa rules. I'm not sure what the actual capacity is but own as we have lost seats, but based on 14500 we only need to give the, 2200.
I hope the club get this right. I can see there being a big demand for this game.
Of course a Friday or Monday night game will affect this.
Thats roughly 2200?
I remember last time we played Palace, there was controversy because we gave our fans free tickets. Our fans had half the north stand, and were segregated from the Palace fans. I also seem to recall, we had a charity shirt on that day and won.
Get the tickets a tenner and the lads in the new triangle kit, couple of good omens there.
I would also like to see the tickets really pushed for the home fans, would that not mean more gate money for us & less for them?
Did we give free tickets to the Palace fans too.
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I've had discussions with the club earlier today.
At the moment it's early doors, so we need to wait and see if we are selected for TV. If we are covered by TV that will affect the price charged for tickets. We will also monitor the Palace away support. If there is no great demand from them, then they won't receive the extra allocation.
I'm afraid it's going to be watch this space!
'if there's no great demand from them, they won't receive the extra allocation' that surely is applied to every game.
The time is now to make the decision to give rovers the best possible chance, in a historical game.
Just give them the North at the very most.
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I've had discussions with the club earlier today.
At the moment it's early doors, so we need to wait and see if we are selected for TV. If we are covered by TV that will affect the price charged for tickets. We will also monitor the Palace away support. If there is no great demand from them, then they won't receive the extra allocation.
I'm afraid it's going to be watch this space!
'if there's no great demand from them, they won't receive the extra allocation' that surely is applied to every game.
The time is now to make the decision to give rovers the best possible chance, in a historical game.
Just give them the North at the very most.
That's not really what I meant.
The club will weigh up it's options in the next few days. We would like to reward the DRFC fans with a low ticket price, and one of the ways to do that is to sell out the stadium.
Not only that but when the game is being played will also affect pricing and sales levels. For instance, if it's a Monday night game then it's fairly obvious that Palace won't want the extra allocation.
As I said, its a waiting game at the moment.
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Great news SM. Isn’t it nice that w3 have a link between the club and it’s supporters.
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Axholme Lion, one my mates from work was in film Football Factory, he’s a proper gezzar
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price it as the same as the 4th round , give palace the same allocation as Oldham and lets fill the ground no matter what the club do people will moan, just be happy that we are there and enjoy the 5th round , i have been watching rovers for 30 years , my dad much longer neither of us have seen Donny play in the 5th round stop moaning about the allocation, buy a ticket and be happy win or lose ffs
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price it as the same as the 4th round , give palace the same allocation as Oldham and lets fill the ground no matter what the club do people will moan, just be happy that we are there and enjoy the 5th round , i have been watching rovers for 30 years , my dad much longer neither of us have seen Donny play in the 5th round stop moaning about the allocation, buy a ticket and be happy win or lose ffs
Agree with this statement.
I too started going 30 years and apart from the first two seasons we failed to get past the first round until we dropped out of the league.
Let's enjoy the moment!!
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Axholme Lion, one my mates from work was in film Football Factory, he’s a proper gezzar
Never seen it. Not really into anything like that.
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I've had discussions with the club earlier today.
At the moment it's early doors, so we need to wait and see if we are selected for TV. If we are covered by TV that will affect the price charged for tickets. We will also monitor the Palace away support. If there is no great demand from them, then they won't receive the extra allocation.
I'm afraid it's going to be watch this space!
'if there's no great demand from them, they won't receive the extra allocation' that surely is applied to every game.
The time is now to make the decision to give rovers the best possible chance, in a historical game.
Just give them the North at the very most.
That's not really what I meant.
The club will weigh up it's options in the next few days. We would like to reward the DRFC fans with a low ticket price, and one of the ways to do that is to sell out the stadium.
Not only that but when the game is being played will also affect pricing and sales levels. For instance, if it's a Monday night game then it's fairly obvious that Palace won't want the extra allocation.
As I said, its a waiting game at the moment.
Fair enough, massive game this.
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Right then rovers. Day and kick off confirmed. Beeb will be there with a healthy pay day.
Same price as Oldham please.
Perhaps not so attractive to palace fans. Late finish for them esp if it goes to extra time and pens.
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The announced timescale doesn't give long for allocating extra to Palace, though.
Monday 4th - Season Ticket holders sale
Thursday 7th - Fans with Oldham stubs
Monday 11th - General sale.
The club won't reasonably be able to gauge demand accurately until maybe 13th/14th. That's only 3 days before the match.
I suspect Palace will only get their opening allocation and that will be it.
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Personally, taking all things into account, even though charging £15 would be reasonable, I would stick with £10 etc. I would think Palace will be given 3000, so scope for us to fill it if the FA peoples Cup fever gains momentum. The TV money will more than make up for any shortfall.
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Well this is fun. A Palace fan has joined a Doncaster forum to take a swipe at a Millwall fan.
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
What a joke you are. You're a f**king t**t. You lot are nothing but scum. Hopefully we'll get you in the quarters where we'll teach you about striping, scumwall
Get a room you mockney w**kers
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I am sure that admin can ban the Palace fan.
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Well this is fun. A Palace fan has joined a Doncaster forum to take a swipe at a Millwall fan.
Its a strange world we live in
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Now we know we've got the prime TV slot, are we doing anything about making the atmosphere a bit special?
Especially when we can celebrate keeping the best striker in the football league!
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Now we know we've got the prime TV slot, are we doing anything about making the atmosphere a bit special?
Especially when we can celebrate keeping the best striker in the football league!
I've heard there may be. The best thing for me would just be to sing our hearts out, like Oldham, in more Co ordinated way!
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Reckon the South Stand will sell out easily for this one, so no excuse not to get the place rocking like OBV always was.
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15% we have to give by fa rules. I'm not sure what the actual capacity is but own as we have lost seats, but based on 14500 we only need to give the, 2200.
I hope the club get this right. I can see there being a big demand for this game.
Of course a Friday or Monday night game will affect this.
Thats roughly 2200?
I remember last time we played Palace, there was controversy because we gave our fans free tickets. Our fans had half the north stand, and were segregated from the Palace fans. I also seem to recall, we had a charity shirt on that day and won.
Get the tickets a tenner and the lads in the new triangle kit, couple of good omens there.
I would also like to see the tickets really pushed for the home fans, would that not mean more gate money for us & less for them?
Did we give free tickets to the Palace fans too.
Nope, I remember writing a little piece in the free press on it when I was a STH, as myself and probably many others were quite peeved at the time.
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Reckon the South Stand will sell out easily for this one, so no excuse not to get the place rocking like OBV always was.
With all due respect, Cantley, that is only part of the problem. The biggest problem is to get everyone joining in the singing/clapping or whatever. Too many just sit on their hands!
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Reckon the South Stand will sell out easily for this one, so no excuse not to get the place rocking like OBV always was.
With all due respect, Cantley, that is only part of the problem. The biggest problem is to get everyone joining in the singing/clapping or whatever. Too many just sit on their hands!
And then whine about or mock the atmosphere - or lack thereof - and deride the people who do make an effort, the irony completely lost on them that their lack of involvement is contributing...
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Agreed, Red.
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Any idea how many we have given Palace?
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SM probably best placed to answer that, but I would think they’ll get an initial 3000, I.e. all the N stand
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It'll be the 3,000 to start with. A decision on the rest will be taken once we have more understanding of Palace's expectations and our own. I do think that if DRFC fans want all of them they can have them.
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15% we have to give by fa rules. I'm not sure what the actual capacity is but own as we have lost seats, but based on 14500 we only need to give the, 2200.
I hope the club get this right. I can see there being a big demand for this game.
Of course a Friday or Monday night game will affect this.
Thats roughly 2200?
I remember last time we played Palace, there was controversy because we gave our fans free tickets. Our fans had half the north stand, and were segregated from the Palace fans. I also seem to recall, we had a charity shirt on that day and won.
Get the tickets a tenner and the lads in the new triangle kit, couple of good omens there.
I would also like to see the tickets really pushed for the home fans, would that not mean more gate money for us & less for them?
Did we give free tickets to the Palace fans too.
Nope, I remember writing a little piece in the free press on it when I was a STH, as myself and probably many others were quite peeved at the time.
Cheers for that reply Hanksie.
I didn’t think we had done.
A few days ago I posted that I thought that Palace would fill the away end as they had done on the day we got free tickets.
Someone posted in reply that they only filled it because the tickets were free and that they wouldn’t bother coming up en mass for the cup game.
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It'll be the 3,000 to start with. A decision on the rest will be taken once we have more understanding of Palace's expectations and our own. I do think that if DRFC fans want all of them they can have them.
Sounds spot on to me. Let's hope our fans respond accordingly.
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It's an interesting point. Can a club say no to tv?
Our record in front of the cameras is not too great I seem to recall.
Our Man city and Villa wins were both televised I think in League Cup.
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It'll be the 3,000 to start with. A decision on the rest will be taken once we have more understanding of Palace's expectations and our own. I do think that if DRFC fans want all of them they can have them.
SM, what is the actual capacity of keepmoat now? I know it isn’t 15200 since the big screen was installed and the front seats of the north stand have been screened.
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
What a load of bollox my dear old mum was a Palace supporter and there isnt a grain of truth in your post . They have a dedicated singing section that will be at our place.
The one thing they don't have are " delusions of grandeur "
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
What a load of bollox my dear old mum was a Palace supporter and there isnt a grain of truth in your post . They have a dedicated singing section that will be at our place.
The one thing they don't have are " delusions of grandeur "
They also have brilliant American style cheerleaders.
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It's an interesting point. Can a club say no to tv?
Our record in front of the cameras is not too great I seem to recall.
Our Man city and Villa wins were both televised I think in League Cup.
.....and Leeds at Wembley, Southend at the KM,Port Vale away,Dagenham at Stoke.
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I stand corr3cted. Perhaps it’s just paranoia.
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It's an interesting point. Can a club say no to tv?
Our record in front of the cameras is not too great I seem to recall.
Our Man city and Villa wins were both televised I think in League Cup.
.....and Leeds at Wembley, Southend at the KM,Port Vale away,Rushden at Stoke.
Rushden at Stoke ?
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
What a load of bollox my dear old mum was a Palace supporter and there isnt a grain of truth in your post . They have a dedicated singing section that will be at our place.
The one thing they don't have are " delusions of grandeur "
They also have brilliant American style cheerleaders.
Can they come an all?
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It's an interesting point. Can a club say no to tv?
Our record in front of the cameras is not too great I seem to recall.
Our Man city and Villa wins were both televised I think in League Cup.
.....and Leeds at Wembley, Southend at the KM,Port Vale away,Rushden at Stoke.
Rushden at Stoke ?
Typo - now amended.
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Dagenham twice. 5-0 at Belle Vue was it?
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Dagenham twice. 5-0 at Belle Vue was it?
5-1
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Yeovil. Lost 4-0 on TV. The McIndoe quick free kick.
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Reckon the South Stand will sell out easily for this one, so no excuse not to get the place rocking like OBV always was.
With all due respect, Cantley, that is only part of the problem. The biggest problem is to get everyone joining in the singing/clapping or whatever. Too many just sit on their hands!
And then whine about or mock the atmosphere - or lack thereof - and deride the people who do make an effort, the irony completely lost on them that their lack of involvement is contributing...
The prematch build at the Keepmoat is poor and our pathetic PA system adds to the lack of atmosphere. Our south stand is our only outlet now and it lacks a visual impact . I can’t remember the last time there was any flags or banners . Surly those who are passionate about the south stand should put some recommendations forward to the stadium announcement to put music on the reflects their wishes and stop playing 80s time pieces that just wash over and are lost for meaning . We a have Drummer who plays his heart out ( sometimes) but when we’re under the cosh or the games a bit flat he is SILENT!! . Heads need to get together and build a prematch the players will react too and gets ALL of the stadium involved .
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Pre match many fans are still in the concourse..
I can only speak for myself but I only go for
The actual football, nowt to do with anything before the game
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
What a load of bollox my dear old mum was a Palace supporter and there isnt a grain of truth in your post . They have a dedicated singing section that will be at our place.
The one thing they don't have are " delusions of grandeur "
People in Glass houses eh ? See what I did there !
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I think one problem (although I don't really want to say it) is our fans are just not as passionate in numbers as those of other clubs. I don't mean the oiks who seem to follow us now to chant and swear to try and look older than they are.
You need sustained success for that over 20/30/40 years. Against our many local rivals, that's just not possible.
I think the stepping stones are there and sat did show promise but the momentum needs maintaining. The unallocated seating in the south stand most def helps.
I hope the club only give CP an initial 3000 to give rovers fans the best chance of filling up the home end. If we don't and palace are given more...... Well we only have ourselves to blame
Now when do they go on sale?
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A lot of our fans have been supporting Rovers since 2003. Before that they supported Leeds or still do as well.
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Pre match many fans are still in the concourse..
I can only speak for myself but I only go for
The actual football, nowt to do with anything before the game
So a strong build up is pointless or worthless or just not required if your looking to win or gain an advantage ? I disagree Portsmouth will sing the hearts out on Saturday to give themselves every possible chance of upsetting our frame of mind . How many times have you heard the saying “ Let’s quieten the crowd “ !! When your in loo and we score is the announcement or the crowd that gives you a clue !! I rest my case .
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I was only meaning before the game and not during it.!
I don’t know how you presume to know my toilet habits but I never go during play.
You rest your case, my arse.!!
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I was only meaning before the game and not during it.!
I don’t know how you presume to know my toilet habits but I never go during play.
Prematch ? Is that not before the game ?
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Read your previous post, how can we score pre match??
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Read your previous post, how can we score pre match??
Ask the Cop at Anfield its worth a goals start if your opponents get ruffled by it .
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Are you talking before a game or during?
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Reckon the South Stand will sell out easily for this one, so no excuse not to get the place rocking like OBV always was.
With all due respect, Cantley, that is only part of the problem. The biggest problem is to get everyone joining in the singing/clapping or whatever. Too many just sit on their hands!
And then whine about or mock the atmosphere - or lack thereof - and deride the people who do make an effort, the irony completely lost on them that their lack of involvement is contributing...
The prematch build at the Keepmoat is poor and our pathetic PA system adds to the lack of atmosphere. Our south stand is our only outlet now and it lacks a visual impact . I can’t remember the last time there was any flags or banners . Surly those who are passionate about the south stand should put some recommendations forward to the stadium announcement to put music on the reflects their wishes and stop playing 80s time pieces that just wash over and are lost for meaning . We a have Drummer who plays his heart out ( sometimes) but when we’re under the cosh or the games a bit flat he is SILENT!! . Heads need to get together and build a prematch the players will react too and gets ALL of the stadium involved .
I think that one big problem is that the pre match music is too loud and probably should be turned off ten minutes or so before kick off to give the fans a chance to sing.
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The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
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Agree with that. But still. If people can't be arsed to join in, you can have the best songs in the world and it'll make not one jot of difference.
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The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
You will remember Sweet Molly Malone echoing round OBV then. We should be able to recapture those days. Zigger Zagger Zigger Zagger Doncaster!
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Agree with that. But still. If people can't be arsed to join in, you can have the best songs in the world and it'll make not one jot of difference.
I'm a bit old now to join in the singing but why can't everyone at least clap along with it .
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Zigger Zagger only ever lasts for two or three bursts these days.
‘Molly Malone’ is never taken up by more than a few voices.
Bristol Rovers’ fans rendition of ‘Goodnight Irene’ puts us to shame.
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The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
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Agree with that. But still. If people can't be arsed to join in, you can have the best songs in the world and it'll make not one jot of difference.
I'm a bit old now to join in the singing but why can't everyone at least clap along with it .
Well that's just it. People understand not everyone can stand and shout themselves hoarse every weekend, but even clapping adds to the volume. Many would rather sit and whinge about the din or complain they don't like such and such a song why do we sing this rather than actually do anything about it.
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I don't often join in chants, but I do try and get a clap going along with the main tunes most of the time and it does works you'll soon get a few more in the section clapping too and the noise filters round. I'm not sure what the solution is, too many people aren't interested.
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Let's face it if the most exciting team we've had for a number of years can't get fans backing them vocally then what can you do really.
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The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
Agree with that. But still. If people can't be arsed to join in, you can have the best songs in the world and it'll make not one jot of difference.
I'm a bit old now to join in the singing but why can't everyone at least clap along with it .
Well that's just it. People understand not everyone can stand and shout themselves hoarse every weekend, but even clapping adds to the volume. Many would rather sit and whinge about the din or complain they don't like such and such a song why do we sing this rather than actually do anything about it.
The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of
The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
Agree with that. But still. If people can't be arsed to join in, you can have the best songs in the world and it'll make not one jot of difference.
I'm a bit old now to join in the singing but why can't everyone at least clap along with it .
Well that's just it. People understand not everyone can stand and shout themselves hoarse every weekend, but even clapping adds to the volume. Many would rather sit and whinge about the din or complain they don't like such and such a song why do we sing this rather than actually do anything about it.
The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
I remember the 20 minute Billy Bremner chant but do you remember that promotion season the crowds averaged less than 4,000 so let's not get too excited about the good old days.
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The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
Agree with that. But still. If people can't be arsed to join in, you can have the best songs in the world and it'll make not one jot of difference.
I'm a bit old now to join in the singing but why can't everyone at least clap along with it .
Well that's just it. People understand not everyone can stand and shout themselves hoarse every weekend, but even clapping adds to the volume. Many would rather sit and whinge about the din or complain they don't like such and such a song why do we sing this rather than actually do anything about it.
The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of
The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
Agree with that. But still. If people can't be arsed to join in, you can have the best songs in the world and it'll make not one jot of difference.
I'm a bit old now to join in the singing but why can't everyone at least clap along with it .
Well that's just it. People understand not everyone can stand and shout themselves hoarse every weekend, but even clapping adds to the volume. Many would rather sit and whinge about the din or complain they don't like such and such a song why do we sing this rather than actually do anything about it.
The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
I remember the 20 minute Billy Bremner chant but do you remember that promotion season the crowds averaged less than 4,000 so let's not get too excited about the good old days.
Crikey Cantley, that must be close to being a record for a “quoted thread”.
I was beginning to wonder how far down the page it was going to go.
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The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
Agree with that. But still. If people can't be arsed to join in, you can have the best songs in the world and it'll make not one jot of difference.
I'm a bit old now to join in the singing but why can't everyone at least clap along with it .
Well that's just it. People understand not everyone can stand and shout themselves hoarse every weekend, but even clapping adds to the volume. Many would rather sit and whinge about the din or complain they don't like such and such a song why do we sing this rather than actually do anything about it.
The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of
The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
Agree with that. But still. If people can't be arsed to join in, you can have the best songs in the world and it'll make not one jot of difference.
I'm a bit old now to join in the singing but why can't everyone at least clap along with it .
Well that's just it. People understand not everyone can stand and shout themselves hoarse every weekend, but even clapping adds to the volume. Many would rather sit and whinge about the din or complain they don't like such and such a song why do we sing this rather than actually do anything about it.
The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
I am sure I remember an echo chant at Belle Vue lasting about 20 mins “Billy Bremner’s red and white army, we’re not daft we’re f**kin’ barmy..”
I remember the 20 minute Billy Bremner chant but do you remember that promotion season the crowds averaged less than 4,000 so let's not get too excited about the good old days.
Crikey Cantley, that must be close to being a record for a “quoted thread”.
I was beginning to wonder how far down the page it was going to go.
That made me smile hound!
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Reckon the South Stand will sell out easily for this one, so no excuse not to get the place rocking like OBV always was.
With all due respect, Cantley, that is only part of the problem. The biggest problem is to get everyone joining in the singing/clapping or whatever. Too many just sit on their hands!
And then whine about or mock the atmosphere - or lack thereof - and deride the people who do make an effort, the irony completely lost on them that their lack of involvement is contributing...
The prematch build at the Keepmoat is poor and our pathetic PA system adds to the lack of atmosphere. Our south stand is our only outlet now and it lacks a visual impact . I can’t remember the last time there was any flags or banners . Surly those who are passionate about the south stand should put some recommendations forward to the stadium announcement to put music on the reflects their wishes and stop playing 80s time pieces that just wash over and are lost for meaning . We a have Drummer who plays his heart out ( sometimes) but when we’re under the cosh or the games a bit flat he is SILENT!! . Heads need to get together and build a prematch the players will react too and gets ALL of the stadium involved .
I think that one big problem is that the pre match music is too loud and probably should be turned off ten minutes or so before kick off to give the fans a chance to sing.
EXACTLY this has been said dozens of times before and still falls on deafened ears.
It is a footy match not an 80's disco. Failure of the supporters to ever buy into a pre- match anthem doesn't mean we can't be given time to start our own chants .
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A lot of our fans have been supporting Rovers since 2003. Before that they supported Leeds or still do as well.
Padge if that's correct , it's still 16 years think what our club has done over the last 16 years . If your comment Was entirely correct then why does it always look as if have attract a majority of older or really young fans
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I don't think they'll bring that many. They're a shit club with delusions of grandeur. I hope Doncaster smash them.
... and then go on to beat the Winners of AFC Wimbledon v Millwall with a bit of luck
I knew we'd get a crap draw. It was nailed on to be miles away from home or somewhere we'd get a crap ticket allocation. The pubs around there will be heaving with Wall, with or without tickets.
You derided the Everton fans for roaming the streets rather than go straight in the ground
Won't be looking for a tear up carrying blades though. It's a local game and if it's on tv it's the next best thing. There'll be no crowd trouble at this game, why would there be? If Wimbledon beat us then good luck to them.
It's a local game. There'll be no trouble here.
Are you Edward or Tubbs?
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I wonder if the younger fans know the full version of Zigger Zagger??
The current short version is a bit of a sorry effort tbh. However, as said, it needs someone or a group to take a lead. The Black Bank Facebook page suggests there's a will there to make an effort.
It might sound daft, but writing the full version of all our songs on there maybe a start. Then the group/leaders and the drummer agree on an order of play and away you go. Practice, practice.
People will join in particularly if the game is going well.
Personally, I'd love to see a return of Bounce around the Ground. Grant McCann says.....
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https://youtu.be/jvDK5WZXmbM
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... or McCanns the Man (Suzi Quatro)
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Hi, Hope you don't mind me popping on to your Forum in the build up to the cup match. Just wanted to exchange views on the match and ask for advice on parking and local away friendly pubs, keep up to date with ticket sales, likelihood of away allocation being increased etc. Conversely if you want to know anything from a Palace perspective feel free to ask and I will try and answer where I can.
As a starter I would like to thank Doncaster Rovers for their pricing for the match, £10 is amazing and hopefully will generate a big passionate crowd from both sides and a full house. I think this is a great draw for both teams; have been supporting Palace for 50 years and I know we have played you several times but I can't recall any 'important' matches-relegaton deciders/place off games etc so this is a first. I have never been to Doncaster and looking forward to the match, will be driving up so any tips will be welcome.
Having read your Forum just a few comments based on some of the posts. Judging by the reaction on our Forum I think we will fill our allocation, lots of interest. Obviously we see it as a chance to progress as I am sure you do and for us it is some relief from the annual rigour of a relegation battle. I think our next two matches will decide how strong a team we put out so difficult to know at the moment. We are generally a friendly bunch (couple of idiots sadly) but generally loud but friendly and we certainly have no 'illusions of grandeur' having been a lower league team for the majority of our history, in administration twice and just 8 years ago just one day from no longer existing after being served with a winding up order. We are fortunate to be where we are at the moment but our ground is not fit for purpose and it is a struggle every year to stay in the division.
Good luck today at Pompey hope to enjoy some friendly banter in the weeks building up to the game, to our match now for another relegation 6 pointer!
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Personally, I'd love to see a return of Bounce around the Ground. Grant McCann says.....
It’s chants like this that will get people started. Easy to pick up and they can keep going for sometime. Start off with chants like this to get people involved and they should start to join in more with others as well
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Hi, Hope you don't mind me popping on to your Forum in the build up to the cup match. Just wanted to exchange views on the match and ask for advice on parking and local away friendly pubs, keep up to date with ticket sales, likelihood of away allocation being increased etc. Conversely if you want to know anything from a Palace perspective feel free to ask and I will try and answer where I can.
As a starter I would like to thank Doncaster Rovers for their pricing for the match, £10 is amazing and hopefully will generate a big passionate crowd from both sides and a full house. I think this is a great draw for both teams; have been supporting Palace for 50 years and I know we have played you several times but I can't recall any 'important' matches-relegaton deciders/place off games etc so this is a first. I have never been to Doncaster and looking forward to the match, will be driving up so any tips will be welcome.
Having read your Forum just a few comments based on some of the posts. Judging by the reaction on our Forum I think we will fill our allocation, lots of interest. Obviously we see it as a chance to progress as I am sure you do and for us it is some relief from the annual rigour of a relegation battle. I think our next two matches will decide how strong a team we put out so difficult to know at the moment. We are generally a friendly bunch (couple of idiots sadly) but generally loud but friendly and we certainly have no 'illusions of grandeur' having been a lower league team for the majority of our history, in administration twice and just 8 years ago just one day from no longer existing after being served with a winding up order. We are fortunate to be where we are at the moment but our ground is not fit for purpose and it is a struggle every year to stay in the division.
Good luck today at Pompey hope to enjoy some friendly banter in the weeks building up to the game, to our match now for another relegation 6 pointer!
You are welcome! You may find the following helpful.
https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/fans/away-fans/
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Just wanted to exchange views on the match and ask for advice on parking and local away friendly pubs, keep up to date with ticket sales, likelihood of away allocation being increased etc.
We have an excellent SLO who will post details on the Palace forum with recommended pubs, directions to ground, parking, etc., in good time for the game.
Go to the Keepmoat web site for ticket sales. Bit of a faff as you have to check block by block to see how many are sold. We're not used to being live on the BBC so no idea how it will affect sales!
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Matchday is an event and the off pitch atmosphere has to be organised if several thousand folk are to add to it . One member of this forum Copps is Magic was instrumental in setting up flags at Black Bank . Someone else set up a group to co ordinate with the club to create the Black’Bank. Our supporters club is great at travel’ arrangements and Paul has done wonders for us in so many ways .We need another group to set up to liaise with the club on match day atmosphere ..it will nor happen spontaneously .
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https://youtu.be/jvDK5WZXmbM
Good memories of that song DBR.
It certainly should make a comeback, great song when people join in like that.
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What about getting entertainment, music, food stalls etc around the ground to add to the atmosphere. Will reduce the burden on the stands in the ground and create a great atmos before the game even kicks off. I'm talking a bar with a music stage and band playing outside each stand and not just outside the rovers return
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The pre match music should be used to ramp up the atmosphere in the ground not deflate it.
Do all the announcements by 14:50 and have 10 minutes of high tempo - bouncing - easy singalong stuff.
Lip up fatty, Tub thumping, Night boat to Cairo etc etc
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What about getting entertainment, music, food stalls etc around the ground to add to the atmosphere. Will reduce the burden on the stands in the ground and create a great atmos before the game even kicks off. I'm talking a bar with a music stage and band playing outside each stand and not just outside the rovers return
The Fan Park with stage/food outside the BVB was a great success I thought. Not so great when they moved it inside a couple of weeks back due to the weather. And that's the problem as you can't bank on the weather at this time of year.
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The lack of vocal support by Rovers fans has been a subject of discussion for years.
I’ve supported Rovers for 50 years and we’ve just never been known as vocal supporters.
Time after time we’ve had initiatives to try and create ‘noise’ and atmosphere.
On odd occasions it has worked. Stoke at home the other season was a good example. Our away support at Preston this season was another.
But more often than not, we are found wanting.
I wonder if part of the reason is that we don’t have our own ‘song’ ?
Our chants don’t last long enough.
‘Come on you reds’ is only ever going to get three goes.
I was impressed by Oldham the other week. They never stopped singing. And they had songs which kept going.
‘We all play in blue and tangerine’ can go on for ages.
The only song we have with any longevity is the ‘echo’ chant of ‘Grant McCann’s Red and White Army’........
This is the song which was sung loud and proud at Preston and I bet the North End fans were reluctantly impressed.
We need more of those songs which keep the momentum going.
That first game away at derby had my derby season ticket holder mate state we were the loudest supporters he had ever heard at their place.
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Don’t want to end up like Anfield. 2 minutes of you’ll never walk alone pre match followed by 90 minutes of silence.
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Or Old Truffel when there isn’t even a song before the silence.
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I wonder if the younger fans know the full version of Zigger Zagger??
The current short version is a bit of a sorry effort tbh. However, as said, it needs someone or a group to take a lead. The Black Bank Facebook page suggests there's a will there to make an effort.
It might sound daft, but writing the full version of all our songs on there maybe a start. Then the group/leaders and the drummer agree on an order of play and away you go. Practice, practice.
People will join in particularly if the game is going well.
Personally, I'd love to see a return of Bounce around the Ground. Grant McCann says.....
Good shout DBR
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I didn't even know that there WAS a 'full version' of it zigger zagger... :laugh:
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I wonder if the younger fans know the full version of Zigger Zagger??
The current short version is a bit of a sorry effort tbh. However, as said, it needs someone or a group to take a lead. The Black Bank Facebook page suggests there's a will there to make an effort.
It might sound daft, but writing the full version of all our songs on there maybe a start. Then the group/leaders and the drummer agree on an order of play and away you go. Practice, practice.
People will join in particularly if the game is going well.
Personally, I'd love to see a return of Bounce around the Ground. Grant McCann says.....
Good shout DBR
just because J Geils is dead, it doesn't mean that "centrefold" should never be heard again out of some perverse sense of respect ;)
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Might have the same issue as I do ?
I try to stick to Paras but have a spacing issue as the "Software" ignores one "enter". Here my demo with one "Enter" only
So when I start another Para and want to leave a line I have to press "enter" twice and heres a demo
So as you will see the above bloke may be a software victim. I have asked the q before but no replies
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That’s normal with any software. “Enter” starts a new line, so twice to leave a line space between paras..
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Cheers - I knew I should not have mentioned it as it is a difficult one to explain !
I know what I mean but cant explain it properly - but not as simple as enter twice to get a space. I did a thesis somewhere explaining it but cant find that yet either ?
Never mind will persevere !
Edit - I just pressed Enter Enter and yet the line above (ending persevere) still left no Line above it and I guess Enter Enter will mean this Line has no gap either
Second edit - I have just pressed Enter Enter and Enter and am guessing there will be One Line above this not 2
So I guess I am saying to leave a Line (new Para) I have to press enter 3 times ? (realise this is an off topic so will stop here)