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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on February 13, 2019, 09:57:20 am
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A big test in front of a sell out crowd, and a large national TV audience, and against the ultimate test a Premiership team led by an ex England manager. Only playing a top six side away would be seen as a bigger test by the football media, most of whom will give us little chance of progressing, and really will not want us to do anyway, wanting the competition to revert to norm being the property of the top teams in the country in their eyes.
Can we pass the test and progress? a big question,but after the way we destroyed Southend last night, in my mind not impossible if Crystal Palace take us lightly.
They have big name players, international players who's names are known all over the world, and to be fair not a bad player on their books being a premiership team. If they play well they should win, But will they? even the best teams can only play as well as the opposition let them.
If we play as well as last night, they will have to play well to beat us, Our clever players in midfield all being on it together, and the rest of the team responding to their promptings.
It is a chance for all our players to showcase their ability to a wide audience, in a game that nationally is the biggest in our clubs history. John, Ben, Herbie, and all the other players having a chance to advertise to the football world how good a player they are, and old man Coppinger show just how good a player he has been, overlooked by many big sides who would have benefited from his undoubted ability.
Do you think like me we have a fighters chance?
Will Palace play their strongest side ?
Will Roy let his precious premiership players change in our changing rooms? apparently he didn't at Notts County some years back when taking Fulham, whose own facilities were worse than Notts Counties, and like Barnsley got changed on the bus.
Who are the players you fear that you think can take us to the cleaners?
If you are a Palace fan reading this, are you confident you will be too good for us?
These and many more questions to be answered about this game, a game we the supporters of the Rovers can relax and enjoy, and where all the pressure is on the Palace to win. Please discuss and have your say.
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- Do you think like me we have a fighters chance?
We have a chance, but we'd have to play very well and Palace not so much. Think the bookies have it about right with their odds.
- Will Palace play their strongest side ?
Absolutely no chance. I expect it will be a mix of first teamers and fringe players, with about half the first team rested.
- Will Roy let his precious premiership players change in our changing rooms?
Yes, why wouldn't he? We have excellent facilities
- Who are the players you fear that you think can take us to the cleaners?
Benteke has been a bit of a laughing stock for a while but he looks like he's starting to click into gear again and if he's up for it could be a menace. Our defenders won't be used to playing someone with his size, strength and pace, with no shortage of ability. Him and Batshuayi up front could be an absolute nightmare to play against
I disagree with you saying that the media really will not want us to win - the media love a cup upset.
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I hope we go full shithouse on them and wet the floor and turn off the hot water etc.
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Certainly an interesting game with your current home form.
In answer to some of your questions. If we take you likely we will get beaten without a doubt. We are going to need to be on our game.
Our whole system works as a counter attacking team and we will look to soak up pressure and hit you on the break at speed. That works very well with Zaha, if he is missing, which appears likely we may not be as incisive as usual. We are better away from home because of that. We struggle at home to break teams down.
Roy studies the opposition at length and will have a plan, we don’t take anyone likely, however we have a few injuries, suspensions and cup tied players so I expect 5/6 changes from our 1st team but like all premier league team there is a lot of quality on the bench so a strong team is assured.
The bookies have us strong favorites but I see it much closer than that. First goal absolutely crucial. We score first then the counter attack is so much easier. You score first, the players and crowd will be up for it and we will struggle to break you down without Zaha.
It really is a great cup tie. Sold out game, atmosphere will be electric from both sets of fans (we are a noisy lot) as I am sure you will be. Looking forward to Sunday. Will update re likely team once news filters through re injuries and confirmation of suspensions.
What about you? Who are your star players? Players to watch? Weaknesses?
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PFIP, I think everyone of our fans would put up a loan player from Liverpool, Herbie Kane, as our stand out player who should have a great future in front of him. He has that great thing at any sport, a natural who makes football look easy.
All the team have talent, but are playing at our level because they may have a certain weakness such as pace, size, injuries holding them back when younger, and of course, certain past managers just not fancying them as much as someone else.
What they are is a honest bunch who give their best, and have gelled and developed as the season has progressed.
John Marquis is our talisman, no one on the field on Sunday will work harder for the cause, and he is one of those underestimated lower league forwards who have not a lot of smooth grace, don't look as fast as they really are, but are better footballers than they appear to be. You could well leave the ground hating him after the game on Sunday.
Coppinger is a player who really has been a hero for so long here, a talent that countless supporters of other clubs in the lower leagues must have thought what the hell is he doing playing for them.
Whiteman has improved this season more than I /we could have reasonably expected, and is looking destined for better things.
All our players are worthy of respect, the sum of our parts being greater than the individuals, even if you are on your game it could end up a very competitive game, and we are used to making the running in games and teams trying to hit us on the break.
It could be a classic cup tie for the fans at the game and the TV, lets hope so.
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We look to dominate the ball and look after it. Our players are adept (for our level) at taking the ball in tight situations and comfortably using it to bring others into play. I think the game is a good benchmark of where we are in that development process. I've seen Palace on telly quite a few times this season and even when the results weren't particularly coming early in the season you looked a decent side, just out of luck at certain times. If we can go toe to toe with you and hold our head high after the game I'll be happy. I predict a close game with goals, and both teams to score. 2-1 either way feels about right.
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Certainly an interesting game with your current home form.
In answer to some of your questions. If we take you likely we will get beaten without a doubt. We are going to need to be on our game.
Our whole system works as a counter attacking team and we will look to soak up pressure and hit you on the break at speed. That works very well with Zaha, if he is missing, which appears likely we may not be as incisive as usual. We are better away from home because of that. We struggle at home to break teams down.
Roy studies the opposition at length and will have a plan, we don’t take anyone likely, however we have a few injuries, suspensions and cup tied players so I expect 5/6 changes from our 1st team but like all premier league team there is a lot of quality on the bench so a strong team is assured.
The bookies have us strong favorites but I see it much closer than that. First goal absolutely crucial. We score first then the counter attack is so much easier. You score first, the players and crowd will be up for it and we will struggle to break you down without Zaha.
It really is a great cup tie. Sold out game, atmosphere will be electric from both sets of fans (we are a noisy lot) as I am sure you will be. Looking forward to Sunday. Will update re likely team once news filters through re injuries and confirmation of suspensions.
What about you? Who are your star players? Players to watch? Weaknesses?
Marquis is a big weakness for us.
I wouldnt bother marking him in truth hes rubbish.
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Or Coppinger. Shite. Same goes for Wilks and Kane.
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Rumour down our end that Marquis is an Orpington boy. Sarf London born and bred and a Palace fan. Not sure where that rumour was started. Anyone know his background?
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As good as we think we are,a lot here will depend on what team Roy decides to go with..Palace are a bloody good side and if he feels he needs to play his first team then we are going to find it hard with long periods without the ball..
If he feels that as they are only 3 points above the drop zone he cant risk some of them and plays a few squad players then we have a real chance...
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PFIP -Marquis was with Millwall for years but never really got a look in and was loaned out left, right and centre
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Palace fan here. First post, so please be gentle!
Personally I have a sneaky suspicion that this will go to extra time, with us maybe snatching it at the death? Given how much of a test Grimsby were in the 3rd round (at home!) most sensible Palace fans will not be underestimating you guys.
What team will we start with? Well that is an interesting one. I’d like us to start a stronger team as possible. Given it’s a week until our next Premier League match.
So my formation is based on assuming that Tomkins, Kouyate, Wickham and Speroni are still injured (they all missed West Ham) and also assuming Zaha loses his appeal this week. Hennessey has until Friday to respond to his charge for “that photo” so would Saturday’s game come too soon for his suspension?
Guaita
Wan-Bissaka – Kelly – Sakho -- Van-Aanholt
Townsend – Meyer – Milivojević -- Schlupp
Benteke -- Batshuayi (or Ayew if he is ineligible).
However, what ever line up we put out it will be a tight game and I am sure it will be a cracker!
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PFIP -Marquis was with Millwall for years but never really got a look in and was loaned out left, right and centre
Sounds like the rumours may be true then. Think someone said they were at school with him.
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Rumour down our end that Marquis is an Orpington boy. Sarf London born and bred and a Palace fan. Not sure where that rumour was started. Anyone know his background?
He's from Lewisham. I'm not 100 per cent sure where - and as a Rovers fan who lives in Lewisham I'm keen to know - but think he's much more likely to be Millwall than Palace.
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We look to dominate the ball and look after it. Our players are adept (for our level) at taking the ball in tight situations and comfortably using it to bring others into play. I think the game is a good benchmark of where we are in that development process. I've seen Palace on telly quite a few times this season and even when the results weren't particularly coming early in the season you looked a decent side, just out of luck at certain times. If we can go toe to toe with you and hold our head high after the game I'll be happy. I predict a close game with goals, and both teams to score. 2-1 either way feels about right.
Very very good summation RTR - the sentiment is mine too
However I fancy 3-2 or 2-3 probably as ScrumpyCPFC suggests AET !
Im heading towards ROVCOM 1 if as I think 5 is continent and 1 is loose as a goose ?
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ScrumpyCPFC, that team looks kind of scary to us back wood northerners, there are some big time names in it.
That is the attraction of the FA cup, teams like ours playing against household names we see on the TV every week, it is not the norm for us.
Our pitch and facilities on the other hand are on a par with most, the setting of the ground better than most if the weather is good, and we welcome away supporters.
There is not a bad view in the stadium, and the days of a bad playing surface against a lower division team is long gone.
The one thing I think links the teams, from viewing the M.O.D. is both teams are prone to giving silly goals away, they both create and miss chances other teams put away, they both have a rick in them, and even you don't know what team will turn up week from week. it is part of the attraction of the game, both are unpredictable, although at different levels.
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Rumour down our end that Marquis is an Orpington boy. Sarf London born and bred and a Palace fan. Not sure where that rumour was started. Anyone know his background?
He's from Lewisham. I'm not 100 per cent sure where - and as a Rovers fan who lives in Lewisham I'm keen to know - but think he's much more likely to be Millwall than Palace.
He went to the same school as a lad I used to work with (although a few years below) who is a big Palace fan. Not that that really clears anything up!
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Looking at the game objectively of course Palace should win. I have a feeing though as the days and hours tick closer, I'll find it more difficult to be objective.
Come kick off it's XI v XI and all it takes is Palace to be 10% down on optimum performance and us to be 10% up and we have an even contest.
I'm sure fans from both sides can expect a very entertaining game played at pace and in good spirit.
Over the coming days, we'll see more press coverage to wet the appetite and the players can now start to fantasise about their FA Cup glory. It could easily turn into a bad dream for Palace.
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Alternatively we could get arseholed on the telly.
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I'd rather play their best team at this stage. I want a win and I think we can give anyone a game, but I'd be disappointed if Palace didn't respect us enough to play their best players, or at least enough of them where they are showing they want to win the competition.
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I have a feeling that Palace will rest about half of their regular starting eleven but will feel that the players they bring in will be strong enough to beat us.
They will have some “insurance” on the bench in case things don’t go the way they expected.
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I have a feeling that Palace will rest about half of their regular starting eleven but will feel that the players they bring in will be strong enough to beat us.
They will have some “insurance” on the bench in case things don’t go the way they expected.
To be honest there really isn't much difference between the '1st' eleven and bench players in most Premier League squads. Look at Man City, I never know who Pep thinks are his 1st eleven as he changes it all the time. Ask Palace fans whether Meyer should be in instead of McArthur and you will get different answers from each. We may play some bench players but they will largely be enforced. Zaha suspended, Tomkins and Kouyate both been injured so may not be risked. The only changes that would be seen as negative would be in defence where he has preferred Ward, Kelly and Dann over Wan-Bisaka (what a prospect he is , really hope he plays) Tomkins and Sakho. Whatever team we put out will be very competitive.
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I'd rather play their best team at this stage. I want a win and I think we can give anyone a game, but I'd be disappointed if Palace didn't respect us enough to play their best players, or at least enough of them where they are showing they want to win the competition.
Completely disagree, I want us to win. If they play their first team we have say a 10-20% chance of winning, but for every first team regular they rest that increases a few per cent.
Them resting half the first team doesn’t mean disrespect, as Hound says above they will expect to progress with the team they put out. If we were playing in the cup at, say, Solihull Moors and May, Rowe, Butler, Sadlier and Lawlor came in would you say we aren’t showing them enough respect?
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I have a feeling that Palace will rest about half of their regular starting eleven but will feel that the players they bring in will be strong enough to beat us.
They will have some “insurance” on the bench in case things don’t go the way they expected.
To be honest there really isn't much difference between the '1st' eleven and bench players in most Premier League squads. Look at Man City, I never know who Pep thinks are his 1st eleven as he changes it all the time. Ask Palace fans whether Meyer should be in instead of McArthur and you will get different answers from each. We may play some bench players but they will largely be enforced. Zaha suspended, Tomkins and Kouyate both been injured so may not be risked. The only changes that would be seen as negative would be in defence where he has preferred Ward, Kelly and Dann over Wan-Bisaka (what a prospect he is , really hope he plays) Tomkins and Sakho. Whatever team we put out will be very competitive.
That last sentence......I don’t doubt that for one minute.
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I'd rather play their best team at this stage. I want a win and I think we can give anyone a game, but I'd be disappointed if Palace didn't respect us enough to play their best players, or at least enough of them where they are showing they want to win the competition.
Completely disagree, I want us to win. If they play their first team we have say a 10-20% chance of winning, but for every first team regular they rest that increases a few per cent.
Them resting half the first team doesn’t mean disrespect, as Hound says above they will expect to progress with the team they put out. If we were playing in the cup at, say, Solihull Moors and May, Rowe, Butler, Sadlier and Lawlor came in would you say we aren’t showing them enough respect?
I don't want anybody afterwards saying that "we only beat the Palace second string" though. I believe us capable of beating them even if Zaha, Townsend and Batshuayi are playing and on song.
We played a full strength side away at Chorley and only got a replay because Herbie Kane is magic. Anything is possible come Sunday.
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Reading this is getting me excited.
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Really good analyses from both sets of supporters though I think momentum here is the key I.e. which of the 2 teams are carving out the most chances and regardless of possession are regularly ' on target ' and hitting the back of the onion net consistently . I would argue that on current form that is Rovers.
The team for once doesn't worry me if they go down a goal , I and of course they now believe it's only a temporary setback and simply redouble their efforts to get a foothold in the game.
Result 2-1 Rovers and I very much doubt it would ever approach the sort of predicted wins that i see on the Palace forum of 3/4-0
Of course I might be entirely wrong in my analysis and it could be one of those nightmares that sends the home supporters scurrying early for the exits to drown their sorows muttering " bloody Rovers " RTWD EH ?
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I was quite fearful until Tuesday. I can imagine that all the premiership teams will play strong teams They all have a realistic chance of Wembley this year.
After Tuesday I genuinely feel that we won’t be embarrassed and can give them a game
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I was reading something on twitter only yesterday and havn't checked the info yet, but it said Palace have yet to concede in the FA Cup this season. Of course, they havn't played us yet, but nevertheless, that is a worrying stat.
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Not really worrying as they have only played 2 FA Cup games and one of those was a 1-0 win over Grimsby.. and 2-0 vs Spurs..
We have scored 16 in 5 games..
Wonder if Palace think that is worrying.??
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Hope so !
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Not really worrying as they have only played 2 FA Cup games and one of those was a 1-0 win over Grimsby.. and 2-0 vs Spurs..
We have scored 16 in 5 games..
Wonder if Palace think that is worrying.??
It is all immaterial. We played a Man City team that have played 17 home games scoring 65 and conceding 9 and losing just one, to us. Conversely we played for 85 minutes at home to Grimsby who only had ten men and scrapped through 1-0. It is who turns up on the day, anything can happen. In reality if we played you 10 times I think we would win 6/7, draw 2/3 and lose 1/2. In one off games anything can happen, it’s why we love the cup.
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Not really worrying as they have only played 2 FA Cup games and one of those was a 1-0 win over Grimsby.. and 2-0 vs Spurs..
We have scored 16 in 5 games..
Wonder if Palace think that is worrying.??
It is all immaterial. We played a Man City team that have played 17 home games scoring 65 and conceding 9 and losing just one, to us. Conversely we played for 85 minutes at home to Grimsby who only had ten men and scrapped through 1-0. It is who turns up on the day, anything can happen. In reality if we played you 10 times I think we would win 6/7, draw 2/3 and lose 1/2. In one off games anything can happen, it’s why we love the cup.
I couldn’t agree more, but I would have Palace winning 7/8 times out of 10..
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pfip did Zara lose his appeal or is he able to play on Sunday, as his pace is scary
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pfip did Zara lose his appeal or is he able to play on Sunday, as his pace is scary
We are still awaiting clarification from the FA. Helpful they are leaving it so late though!
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pfip did Zara lose his appeal or is he able to play on Sunday, as his pace is scary
Zara?
Is that his Sunday name 😜
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we have to recognise the Premiership is a different world ..we spend 3 million a year wages on an entire squad and that is no doubt less than Zaha earns .
Sunderland 's parachute payments amounted to 76 million more than 25 times our annual budget .These disparities do not make Premiership footballers 25 times better than ours .Better yes for sure but with vastly inflated rewards ....and values.
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Got a very good feeling about this one, genuinely think we have an even chance of reaching the FA cup quarter final.
Starting to think silly thoughts.
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The Road to Wembley is currently Rovers win 21 Palace win 4 (with 9 to vote) so it deffo is not just you !
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Got a very good feeling about this one, genuinely think we have an even chance of reaching the FA cup quarter final.
Starting to think silly thoughts.
Me too!! ;)
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pfip did Zara lose his appeal or is he able to play on Sunday, as his pace is scary
We are still awaiting clarification from the FA. Helpful they are leaving it so late though!
I thought it was always due to be announced today.
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PFIP -Marquis was with Millwall for years but never really got a look in and was loaned out left, right and centre
Lewisham boy and a Millwall family. Never got a fair crack of the whip at Wall.
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pfip did Zara lose his appeal or is he able to play on Sunday, as his pace is scary
We are still awaiting clarification from the FA. Helpful they are leaving it so late though!
I thought it was always due to be announced today.
Just been reported that decision now due tomorrow.
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Another Palace Fan here. Really excited for the game. With a sell out crowd, and opposition who are hungry to win it should be really competitive. We see this as a genuine banana skin and I have no doubt Hodgeson will be guarding them against complacency. I'm sure we will play a strong team and will play to win.
There will be some changes, but few of them would really be considered "weakening the team". If Joel Ward, Martin Kelly and Scott Dann start in defence, Max Meyer in midfield, and Sako on the wing (if Zaha is suspended), those bench players have over 500 premier league apps between them and are all on rediculous wages. I hope Roy will play Benteke up front to let him play himself into form, after an awful injury-hit 18 months with only one (penalty) goal. I suspect if he does drop Benteke it will be to play Batshuayi.
My point is don't be insulted if Palace make 9 changes from out last league game as that won't reflect that we are taking you and this competition seriously.
The reason you guys have an excellent chance is that palace are hopeless when we have the majority of the possession and have to unlock compact defences. Classic example being in December, when fresh off the back of a 3-1 win against Man City , where we could counter attack, Cardiff sat back against us, and although we had 31 shots, we drew 0-0. If you guys can stay in contention until half time, I will start sweating.
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With all due respect mate, rest assured we won’t be sitting back to defend. We’ll be attacking from the off and if Palace don’t prepare for that then they’re in for a shock.
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We won’t be sitting back that’s for sure we play with no fear and have nothing to loose so it will be an end to end game and plenty of goals hopefully for rovers
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Take no notice of the above 2, we will play 10 defenders, no midfield and no attack!
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The referee for Sunday is Mike Dean
https://www.soccerbase.com/referees/referee.sd?referee_id=135
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47217601
Lawro"s predictions. Can't really argue but he know's it'll be a great cup tie.
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The referee for Sunday is Mike Dean
https://www.soccerbase.com/referees/referee.sd?referee_id=135
The only cup match he refereed for us in was a 3-0 win over Aston Villa, us in tier 3, them in tier 1.
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Another penalty will do nicely Mike thank you!
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Will be a cracking atmosphere still think Palace had the noisiest set of fans that have been to the KMS
It’s a chance for our guys to make history and hopefully we don’t freeze
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We won’t freeze. No pressure. Play our game and get at them.
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I have booked a table in one of the Lakeside shopping centre restaurants but understand their car park closes at 6pm. Anyone know if there is any free street parking or other car parks close by? Thanks
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Yes PMd you
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If he takes my spot John, you're for it!
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I have booked a table in one of the Lakeside shopping centre restaurants but understand their car park closes at 6pm. Anyone know if there is any free street parking or other car parks close by? Thanks
The only place to eat there is pizza hut and the car park is open all night as Starbucks does not close till 11 am, if you have booked at the beef eater you will fine till after the football
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Thanks to everyone who responded, really appreciated. Will be in the Beefeater so probably park there but may check other suggestions to see easier to get away after.
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The road to the right of the roundabout is where I usually park, all along there right down to the cinema you can get into. Cinema is also an option, though it's about a 5-10 minute walk to the ground and if you're going to the Beefeater anyway I'd probably just park in there, IF you can.
It'll be f**king murder getting away, I reckon, regardless of where you park.
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Just seen this from the Lakeside twitter feed
Hi @drfc_officiaI we are all very proud of the team reaching this stage of the cup. As you know our car park is normally for our shoppers only but we're happy to help your supporters on this occasion and will make our car park available from 3pm - 7pm for the match.
COYR
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Is VAR being used on Sunday ?
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Thanks to everyone who responded, really appreciated. Will be in the Beefeater so probably park there but may check other suggestions to see easier to get away after.
leave your car there easy to get out not an issue at all
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Is VAR being used on Sunday ?
No. It's only used at Premier League grounds.
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I wonder if John Ryan will be in attendance this Sunday
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I wonder if John Ryan will be in attendance this Sunday
Rumour has it he’s on the bench
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Is VAR being used on Sunday ?
No. It's only used at Premier League grounds.
What about Hawkeye / Goal Line Techno ?
Are they fixed permanently at Grounds where they are deployed or can they be shifted ?
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The cup often throws up results that are against the odds.
Look at Newport.
Who would have thought they would beat Leicester?
After that first game at Middlesborough I thought they had had their chance but for them to win the replay was incredible.
We can win tomorrow if we give it everything and have a little bit of luck as well.
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Is VAR being used on Sunday ?
No. It's only used at Premier League grounds.
What about Hawkeye / Goal Line Techno ?
Are they fixed permanently at Grounds where they are deployed or can they be shifted ?
I think it's built into the goalposts, Wolfie.
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Will be a cracking atmosphere still think Palace had the noisiest set of fans that have been to the KMS
It’s a chance for our guys to make history and hopefully we don’t freeze
We don't freeze - we can certainly win . Scoring goals is a good habit and currently a habit our pkayers currently have , I'm sure Hodgson will have factored this into his plans - they DARE not sit back and think they can hit us on the break and that very change in how they have to approach this game could be their undoing.
Palace like to hit on the counter , through Zaha but that particular option won't be there - so what to do ? They are playing away to a team of players scoring and creating goals for each other all over the pitch - can they afford to sit back and hope their midfield and defence can soak up early pressure ?
All it takes is one slip, one nervous or over- confident silly pass and we are in . Always a daft statement but in this particular type of match who scores first really does matter.
Gut feeling we will win but it will be a hard game for both sets of players and a roller-coaster for both sets of fans - who I'm sure will exemplify all that is good about this game.
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Well, time to start thinking of the line-up I guess. Still seems to be a bit of uncertainty about Wilks being suspended, I thought we'd cleared this up and he is OK to play?
I have a feeling he'll start with Blair over the more inexperienced Lewis plus Blair gives us an extra dimension going forward.
I would say Downing is a certainty. Although Anderson has been very good lately, I wonder whether Wright might be called up for his more all round ability and pace however, perhaps with him not playing a full game following injury, it may be too early for him.
I think Crawford will retain his midfield spot for his all round play and willingness to press high up the pitch. Plus another option at set pieces.
Up front assuming Wilks plays, I would go with Sadlier who looks to have all the attributes to cope better v premiership opposition.
That leaves Copps on the bench but, only a matter of time before he graces the cup tie with his culture and skill.
Could be completely wrong of course!
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Marosi
Lewis
Anderson
Downing
Andrew
Kane
Whiteman
Crawford
Marquis
Wilks
Copps
Q over whether he wants Blair in midfield to add a bit more weight given size of Palace, and whether he wants Wilks as impact player later and have May run them around for first half.
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This is a very tough call for GM. I would suggest Downing, Marosi, Marquis, whiteman, Kane and Andrew are the only certainties.
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Marosi
Lewis
Anderson
Downing
Andrew
Kane
Whiteman
Crawford
Marquis
Wilks
Copps
Q over whether he wants Blair in midfield to add a bit more weight given size of Palace, and whether he wants Wilks as impact player later and have May run them around for first half.
Wilks suspended, presumably Alfie May will start.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47187873
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But Mark Lawrenson predicting a one - nil is flabbergasting. I will eat my hat if there is only one goal in this game.
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Marosi
Lewis
Anderson
Downing
Andrew
Kane
Whiteman
Crawford
Marquis
Wilks
Copps
Q over whether he wants Blair in midfield to add a bit more weight given size of Palace, and whether he wants Wilks as impact player later and have May run them around for first half.
Wilks suspended, presumably Alfie May will start.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47187873
Wilks is not suspended, one of his yellow cards was in round 3 after wich all cards were wiped
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But Mark Lawrenson predicting a one - nil is flabbergasting. I will eat my hat if there is only one goal in this game.
Quoting for evidence.
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Marosi
Lewis
Anderson
Downing
Andrew
Kane
Whiteman
Crawford
Marquis
Wilks
Copps
Q over whether he wants Blair in midfield to add a bit more weight given size of Palace, and whether he wants Wilks as impact player later and have May run them around for first half.
Wilks suspended, presumably Alfie May will start.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47187873
Wilks is not suspended, one of his yellow cards was in round 3 after wich all cards were wiped
TEAM NEWS
Doncaster winger Mallik Wilks is suspended after being booked in Rovers' last two FA Cup games.
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Marosi
Lewis
Anderson
Downing
Andrew
Kane
Whiteman
Crawford
Marquis
Wilks
Copps
Q over whether he wants Blair in midfield to add a bit more weight given size of Palace, and whether he wants Wilks as impact player later and have May run them around for first half.
Wilks suspended, presumably Alfie May will start.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47187873
Wilks is not suspended, one of his yellow cards was in round 3 after wich all cards were wiped
TEAM NEWS
Doncaster winger Mallik Wilks is suspended after being booked in Rovers' last two FA Cup games.
Do the BBC administer suspensions now? Look on the FA website and see if you can fund him suspended
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BBC get stuff wrong all the time.
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Marosi
Lewis
Anderson
Downing
Andrew
Kane
Whiteman
Crawford
Marquis
Wilks
Copps
Q over whether he wants Blair in midfield to add a bit more weight given size of Palace, and whether he wants Wilks as impact player later and have May run them around for first half.
Wilks suspended, presumably Alfie May will start.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47187873
Wilks is not suspended, one of his yellow cards was in round 3 after wich all cards were wiped
TEAM NEWS
Doncaster winger Mallik Wilks is suspended after being booked in Rovers' last two FA Cup games.
I am wrong you are right. Sorry. Just shows that you often get better information on here than you do in the media. I can't wait to see how the Crystal Palace defence copes with Wilks.
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I am wrong you are right. Sorry. Just shows that you often get better information on here than you do in the media. I can't wait to see how the Crystal Palace defence copes with Wilks.
[/quote] Hopefully the same way as we have dealt with Sane, Hazard and Kane this season, don’t give them any room or space and nullify their threat.
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Wilks is an animal. The only way you can stop him is to nip him or by flicking his ear. Really doesn’t like that-Good luck!
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I am wrong you are right. Sorry. Just shows that you often get better information on here than you do in the media. I can't wait to see how the Crystal Palace defence copes with Wilks.
Hopefully the same way as we have dealt with Sane, Hazard and Kane this season, don’t give them any room or space and nullify their threat.
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Different league different player. Keep underestimating though
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I am wrong you are right. Sorry. Just shows that you often get better information on here than you do in the media. I can't wait to see how the Crystal Palace defence copes with Wilks.
Hopefully the same way as we have dealt with Sane, Hazard and Kane this season, don’t give them any room or space and nullify their threat.
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would you by any chance have fielded a full strength side against any of the above mentioned players/teams?
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I am wrong you are right. Sorry. Just shows that you often get better information on here than you do in the media. I can't wait to see how the Crystal Palace defence copes with Wilks.
Hopefully the same way as we have dealt with Sane, Hazard and Kane this season, don’t give them any room or space and nullify their threat.
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Wilks is a beast, make sure your defenders have 3 weetabix in the morning, they gonna need it
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Wilkes? nah nothing to worry about there, easy game for your full back, it is just TLOD you are playing, move along now nothing to see here
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Well as it stands we are £125k better off
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Is he left or right side?
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Marosi
Lewis
Anderson
Downing
Andrew
Kane
Whiteman
Crawford
Marquis
Wilks
Copps
Q over whether he wants Blair in midfield to add a bit more weight given size of Palace, and whether he wants Wilks as impact player later and have May run them around for first half.
Lewis is cup tighed
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Left side. Utter gash. No pace or strength.
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Is he left or right side?
Often floats....left, right, down the middle
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Marosi
Lewis
Anderson
Downing
Andrew
Kane
Whiteman
Crawford
Marquis
Wilks
Copps
Q over whether he wants Blair in midfield to add a bit more weight given size of Palace, and whether he wants Wilks as impact player later and have May run them around for first half.
Lewis is cup tighed
No he’s not
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Marosi
Lewis
Anderson
Downing
Andrew
Kane
Whiteman
Crawford
Marquis
Wilks
Copps
Q over whether he wants Blair in midfield to add a bit more weight given size of Palace, and whether he wants Wilks as impact player later and have May run them around for first half.
Lewis is cup tighed
Why is he cup tied.
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He has only played in the Football League Trophy this season for Swansea (u21s).
He is certainly not (FA) cup tied.
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Aww, CBCB, I was hoping he would come back with some weird reason, like he was on our bench against Oldham.
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Left side. Utter gash. No pace or strength.
May be interesting then, for cup games we usually play our reserve right back Ward. Our first choice right back is Aaron Wan-Bisaka, who is rated as the best right back in the premier league at the moment so will be a right battle. Hopefully we play AWB.
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Left side. Utter gash. No pace or strength.
May be interesting then, for cup games we usually play our reserve right back Ward. Our first choice right back is Aaron Wan-Bisaka, who is rated as the best right back in the premier league at the moment so will be a right battle. Hopefully we play AWB.
Whats your left back like?
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Left side. Utter gash. No pace or strength.
May be interesting then, for cup games we usually play our reserve right back Ward. Our first choice right back is Aaron Wan-Bisaka, who is rated as the best right back in the premier league at the moment so will be a right battle. Hopefully we play AWB.
I really like Wan-Bissaka and think he’s got a great future ahead of him but how do you mean rated as he best right back? Is he better than Trippier or Alexander Arnold right now?
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Left side. Utter gash. No pace or strength.
May be interesting then, for cup games we usually play our reserve right back Ward. Our first choice right back is Aaron Wan-Bisaka, who is rated as the best right back in the premier league at the moment so will be a right battle. Hopefully we play AWB.
I really like Wan-Bissaka and think he’s got a great future ahead of him but how do you mean rated as he best right back? Is he better than Trippier or Alexander Arnold right now?
Statistically he is the top defender in Europe right now . Most number of tackles/interceptions etc
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Left side. Utter gash. No pace or strength.
May be interesting then, for cup games we usually play our reserve right back Ward. Our first choice right back is Aaron Wan-Bisaka, who is rated as the best right back in the premier league at the moment so will be a right battle. Hopefully we play AWB.
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I really like Wan-Bissaka and think he’s got a great future ahead of him but how do you mean rated as he best right back? Is he better than Trippier or Alexander Arnold right now?
Check the stats, tackles, interceptions etc, rated the best right back in Europe, will be in next England squad. ATA has been injured for a lot of the season.
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Palace team just booked in at the Hilton at the racecourse. Now where are those rather loud fireworks I had left over from New Year's Eve !!
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Palace team just booked in at the Hilton at the racecourse. Now where are those rather loud fireworks I had left over from New Year's Eve !!
How loud are the fire alarms there 😂
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Left side. Utter gash. No pace or strength.
May be interesting then, for cup games we usually play our reserve right back Ward. Our first choice right back is Aaron Wan-Bisaka, who is rated as the best right back in the premier league at the moment so will be a right battle. Hopefully we play AWB.
Whats your left back like?
Van arnolt. Excellent going forward not so good defensively.
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Left side. Utter gash. No pace or strength.
May be interesting then, for cup games we usually play our reserve right back Ward. Our first choice right back is Aaron Wan-Bisaka, who is rated as the best right back in the premier league at the moment so will be a right battle. Hopefully we play AWB.
Whats your left back like?
Van arnolt. Excellent going forward not so good defensively.
He wont get forward much, Wilks will run him ragged.
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Hound, if Wilks gets the bit between his teeth tomorrow he is capable of being the player everyone is talking about on Monday.
I only hope it is for the right reasons.
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Too right Selby, lets hope he does the right stuff eh.
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Left side. Utter gash. No pace or strength.
May be interesting then, for cup games we usually play our reserve right back Ward. Our first choice right back is Aaron Wan-Bisaka, who is rated as the best right back in the premier league at the moment so will be a right battle. Hopefully we play AWB.
Whats your left back like?
Van arnolt. Excellent going forward not so good defensively.
He wont get forward much, Wilks will run him ragged.
Big fan of Wilks but he’s a youngster in his first season of professional football who, although in form right now, has arguably blown cold as often as he’s blown hot. Van Aanholt is a full international who signed for £15 million. If it’s him who’s starts at left back Wilks is definitely up against it.
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The current confidence/arrogance Wilkes is displaying tho will be a match for most. He is so strong and pacey, just needs to learn to lift his head up and remember its a team game. McCan has stated that he does more than his fair share one on one with Malik, this is deffo one of those occasions where we all need it to have sunk in and been understood.
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Marosi
Lewis
Anderson
Downing
Andrew
Kane
Whiteman
Crawford
Marquis
Wilks
Copps
If start Blair at full back, his speed alone helps his defensive duties and he is twice the wing back Lewis will ever be... against a fast palace side we have to have lightening down the flanks to stand a chance.
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Left side. Utter gash. No pace or strength.
May be interesting then, for cup games we usually play our reserve right back Ward. Our first choice right back is Aaron Wan-Bisaka, who is rated as the best right back in the premier league at the moment so will be a right battle. Hopefully we play AWB.
Whats your left back like?
Van arnolt. Excellent going forward not so good defensively.
He wont get forward much, Wilks will run him ragged.
Big fan of Wilks but he’s a youngster in his first season of professional football who, although in form right now, has arguably blown cold as often as he’s blown hot. Van Aanholt is a full international who signed for £15 million. If it’s him who’s starts at left back Wilks is definitely up against it.
Nick, I think it is fair to say that there have been plenty of teenagers who came in like a wrecking ball and gave a hard time to international defenders.
Mallik will have no respect for reputations and with his pace and power will be very difficult to stop, especially if he turns his marker.
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Marosi
Lewis
Anderson
Downing
Andrew
Kane
Whiteman
Crawford
Marquis
Wilks
Copps
Q over whether he wants Blair in midfield to add a bit more weight given size of Palace, and whether he wants Wilks as impact player later and have May run them around for first half.
Lewis is cup tighed
No he’s not
According to BBC Lewis IS cup-tied & Wilks is suspended. Anyone know if that's right or not ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47187873
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Yes we went through it somewhere on here yesterday. BBC wrong Wilks free to play
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Lewis is too.
If you look at his appearances this season, he has only played a league or cup game for us.
He was a sub for our Oldham game.
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Thanks to all who have engaged on this forum, been very pleasant exchanging views with genuine fans and thanks for parking tips etc. Just leaving now, have a great day to all.
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Thanks to all who have engaged on this forum, been very pleasant exchanging views with genuine fans and thanks for parking tips etc. Just leaving now, have a great day to all.
Safe journey.
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Thanks to all who have engaged on this forum, been very pleasant exchanging views with genuine fans and thanks for parking tips etc. Just leaving now, have a great day to all.
Have a safe journey up to God's own county.
Looking forward to locking horns with you Palace fans in a vocal way.
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What a beautiful day to make history. The sun shone at Cardiff, at Wembley, at Brentford. I've just been for a walk just as I did on those mornings and there's that same sweet smell in the dewy air.
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Left side. Utter gash. No pace or strength.
May be interesting then, for cup games we usually play our reserve right back Ward. Our first choice right back is Aaron Wan-Bisaka, who is rated as the best right back in the premier league at the moment so will be a right battle. Hopefully we play AWB.
Whats your left back like?
Van arnolt. Excellent going forward not so good defensively.
He wont get forward much, Wilks will run him ragged.
Big fan of Wilks but he’s a youngster in his first season of professional football who, although in form right now, has arguably blown cold as often as he’s blown hot. Van Aanholt is a full international who signed for £15 million. If it’s him who’s starts at left back Wilks is definitely up against it.
Nick, I think it is fair to say that there have been plenty of teenagers who came in like a wrecking ball and gave a hard time to international defenders.
Mallik will have no respect for reputations and with his pace and power will be very difficult to stop, especially if he turns his marker.
Of course, and I’m not saying it won’t happen, just that it’s by no means a certainty that, as you put it, “Wilks will run him ragged”.
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Now the latest intel is that Wilks is suspended after all [anyone for humble pie ?] I am marginally less confident. We will miss his ability to beat players and draw cautions which I don't think the CP defenders would have had an answer for. Who will start in his place is the question now.
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The only ones to eat humble pie should be the FA, who did not clarify the situation until the last moment.
As for his replacement I would bring Rowe in.
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Rowe has done nothing this season, looked very ordinary. I would go with Blair.
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Different sort of player.. Rowe can offer experience too..
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IAATP, I could go along with that, but feel as IDM Rowe has the more experience of playing against good defenders, carries a goal threat, is better defensively, and Blair may be needed to cover at right back later in the game.
Whoever gets the nod I am sure they will not let us down.
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Now the latest intel is that Wilks is suspended after all [anyone for humble pie ?] I am marginally less confident. We will miss his ability to beat players and draw cautions which I don't think the CP defenders would have had an answer for. Who will start in his place is the question now.
the latest Intel being the beeb repeating duff information that you are absolutely desperate to be proved right on!! Seems like you would prefer rovers to field a weakened side just so you can have some sort of gloating trip over who gets the most accurate info.
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Watching sky sports news before setting. Saying Wilkes is banned.they can't seem to get it right.
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He is banned!
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Where is this coming from?
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Teamsheet in no Wilkes What went wrong there then?
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Apparently the FA let the club know last night that they got it wrong and that he should in fact be suspended.
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A good effort, as everyone has said that bit of class showed, and we didn't have a great deal of luck with their goals. The first was a bad deflection that Marosi would probably have had covered if not deflected.
The second a bit of a moan from me, why has it become the norm for referee's to let a move be completed even though time is up before the end of the move.
Yes it was poor defending, but time should have stopped the game before the goal. It is something that has crept into the game, and when referees are so pedantic on other issues it drives me mad, or that was a long minute.
Wilks and Smith were a big miss, I have never thought that May and Marquis are a good pair, Coppinger was the cleverest player on the field, constantly making room for himself when in possession even against premiership opposition,and Crawford played very well, like others I could not understand the substitutions.
So that's it for another year, we have done well, made a few bob, and projected the club nationally in a good light.
Now for the bread and butter, still a lot to play for, and there will be a few twists and turns, but one thing it won't be is dull.
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Pretty much as I saw it Selby.
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I thought they did us proud today we played some great football just not quite as good as Palace in both boxes where ultimately it counts.
We definitely missed Wilks. Alfie May gave his all as usual but lacks that physical presence and never looked likely to score.
If we play that quality of football for the remainder of the season we will certainly be in the play offs.
Has anybody in our league got a better midfield quartet ( if you include Copps ) of Kane, Whiteman, Crawford & Coppinger.
Memories of Green, Stock, Wellens & Oster.
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