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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: rich1471 on April 13, 2019, 05:25:27 pm
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Apparently Police are investigating an alleged assault by Barton on Stendel in the tunnel?
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Once an arsehole always an arsehole!
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Still only 'alleged' but now being reported on Sky, Yorkshire Post and other places.
Hopefully this will be the end of the scumbag.
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Where’s Albrighton & big Leo to put the little shit in his place all over again
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Is he even worth a mention. t**t of the highest
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Still only 'alleged' but now being reported on Sky, Yorkshire Post and other places.
Hopefully this will be the end of the scumbag.
It's been confirmed by Barnsley. SYP investigating.
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Sky caught trying to sneak out of Oakwell in a car
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He was only holding him for Ched
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http://www.skysports.com/share/11692842
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Rigo will be along shortly to tell us again what a great bloke he is.
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Head butted Stendel in the tunnel causing Daniel to lose two teeth apparently .
Tried the flee the scene in his car afterwards but was stopped by SYP .
Absolutely disgraceful , Fleetwood should terminate his contract and he should be looking at a custodial sentence given his previous .
His team today played like a bunch of sunday morning thugs and got what they deserved , a footballing lesson .
Barton clearly sent his team out to kick us off the park and it backfired on him spectacularly .
Barton should now be finished in this game , no place for thugs like him .
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Hope Fleetwood beat Posh and terminate Barton's contract,Would be win-win.
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If he has done that, he wants sacking and banning from the sport. A complete waste of space who doesn't deserve the spotlight.
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Rigo said
None of us have seen it, so who are any of us to be passing comment?
That has never stopped anyone on this forum before, why should we start now?
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you only have to watch the video to know he did something , he was trying to get out of their quick , innocent people don't run.
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Head butted Stendel in the tunnel causing Daniel to lose two teeth apparently .
Tried the flee the scene in his car afterwards but was stopped by SYP .
Absolutely disgraceful , Fleetwood should terminate his contract and he should be looking at a custodial sentence given his previous .
His team today played like a bunch of sunday morning thugs and got what they deserved , a footballing lesson .
Barton clearly sent his team out to kick us off the park and it backfired on him spectacularly .
Barton should now be finished in this game , no place for thugs like him .
They did the same to us in the game at our place. Kicked the crap out of us and the ref let them do it. Awful.
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Those two Fleetwood w**kers trying to stop the filming. f**k right off.
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Hasn't worked, though has it.
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Those two Fleetwood w**kers trying to stop the filming. f**k right off.
Can hardly blame them?
Their gaffer gets accused of assault, which they may or may not have witnessed, and there’s then someone filming the coppers trying to speak to him moments later.
Folk can film where they like but from a PR perspective, Fleetwood will want to try and keep this juicy gossip firmly ‘in house’ with the media nowhere near it.
No one does a runner if they are innocent, only guilty people run away
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Those two Fleetwood w**kers trying to stop the filming. f**k right off.
Can hardly blame them?
Their gaffer gets accused of assault, which they may or may not have witnessed, and there’s then someone filming the coppers trying to speak to him moments later.
Folk can film where they like but from a PR perspective, Fleetwood will want to try and keep this juicy gossip firmly ‘in house’ with the media nowhere near it.
If Fleetwood had any concern about PR then surely you’d have to question why they appointed Joey Barton in the first place. Or signed Ched Evans.
What Barton is alleged to have done today is indefensible. And it’s not out of character for him either.
A troubled individual he may be, but a great bloke he is not.
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from twitter before it was removed from Woodrow, who scored Barnsley's second goal in their 4-2 win, tweeted that Stendel had been left with "blood pouring from his face" before taking the post down.
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If Tyke is right ,it. will be interesting to see what Fleetwood do about it, for me if guilty he needs banning from the game
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Should be locked up for assault and never be allowed near the game again.... Scumbag of the highest order!!
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Once a tosser always a tosser
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If the reports are true, it is gross misconduct at the very least....which is a reason to terminate his contract.
There is also the possibility of charges for assault, which should bring him before the courts.
If he has form, that will count against him.
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makes you wonder exactly what the Barnsley manager said to him
hope he didn't
there is a "technical term" for what "allegedly" happened
https://www.scousedictionary.co.uk/kirby-kiss/
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makes you wonder exactly what the Barnsley manager said to him
hope he didn't
there is a "technical term" for what "allegedly" happened
https://www.scousedictionary.co.uk/kirby-kiss/
Let's be clear here Stendel isn't a Warnock or anything like that .
Barton sent his team out in the second half to kick us and intimidate us after chasing shadows in the first half and two goals down , it wasn't too long before their centre half got a straight red .
Some of the things his players got up to today were over the line , really nasty with the intent to cause serious damage to our players .
What clearly rattled Barton was the fact it didn't work , we stood up to them and didn't back away an inch .
Clearly Barton had to leave Oakwell today with some kind of badge , the badge that's only recognised on the streets of Huyton where he grew up .
I sincerely hope I never see Barton again inside a football stadium in a paid capacity .
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Reputation is everything and Joey Barton certainly has a reputation! If guilty of causing physical harm by way of an assault on another manager then a life ban should be the minimum he gets .
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makes you wonder exactly what the Barnsley manager said to him
hope he didn't
there is a "technical term" for what "allegedly" happened
https://www.scousedictionary.co.uk/kirby-kiss/ (https://www.scousedictionary.co.uk/kirby-kiss/)
Let's be clear here Stendel isn't a Warnock or anything like that .
Barton sent his team out in the second half to kick us and intimidate us after chasing shadows in the first half and two goals down , it wasn't too long before their centre half got a straight red .
Some of the things his players got up to today were over the line , really nasty with the intent to cause serious damage to our players .
What clearly rattled Barton was the fact it didn't work , we stood up to them and didn't back away an inch .
Clearly Barton had to leave Oakwell today with some kind of badge , the badge that's only recognised on the streets of Huyton where he grew up .
I sincerely hope I never see Barton again inside a football stadium in a paid capacity .
Good point Tyke - they were pretty cynical v us at Home. I think that was the game when someone said on here - the only safe way not be be fouled was to have the Ball at your feet at all times - as there was so much off the Ball action
The only bit of your piece I dont agree with is "on the streets of Huyton where he grew up" IMO he never did grow up.
I dislike him with a passion and in "real life" he would not get away with some of what he has done to date !
Totally unlikely Rovers would EVER have employed him even before whatever happened yesterday (best not to speculate) but if they did I WOULD not set foot in the Keepmoat while he was part of the set up
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A couple of the Plymouth players were off the ball thugs throughout the game, Wilkes and Butler had their share of elbows and kicks.
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It looked to me that Butler got hit in the groin by one of their CBs yesterday.
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Something that struck me about Barton was when he tried to mix it with our bench during the game at the Keepmoat (even though his team of cloggers was winning 4-0). As soon as Cliff Byrne fronted up to him, he backed down. It was his encounter with the Sarge all over again.
He's a bully and a coward. I'm surprised he didn't spend last night in the cells and that SYP are treating him with kid gloves.
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Having seen the highlights, the "challenge" that got their player Souttar sent off was a disgrace, and on first viewing reminded me somewhat of Morgan on Hume. Awful, but not surprising at all from a Fleetwood team managed by Barton. He is a pure thug.
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To go back to my previous point, why wasn't Barton arrested? I can't believe SYP wouldn't have arrested someone who didn't have a high profile in similar circumstances.
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TRB
Couldn't agree more that he's a bully and a coward. If he HAS headbutted Stendel, that would be entirely in character. The headbutt is the coward's attack method.
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Having seen the highlights, the "challenge" that got their player Souttar sent off was a disgrace, and on first viewing reminded me somewhat of Morgan on Hume. Awful, but not surprising at all from a Fleetwood team managed by Barton. He is a pure thug.
Seen it, had no i tention of winning the ball, led with the elbow and knew exactly what he was doing
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To go back to my previous point, why wasn't Barton arrested? I can't believe SYP wouldn't have arrested someone who didn't have a high profile in similar circumstances.
I would think they want to make sure they get it right as any little mistake will be jumped on by a good lawyer and the case would collapse get it right and a prison sentence could follow but I doubt it probably be a 6 month suspended sentence and 500 pound fine or some other joke sentence no lesson would have been learned and he will carry on as manager.
Other clubs should try and organise some form of banning order against him
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If he is charged and convicted, then maybe for the football club’s reaction the severity (or not) of the sentence may be irrelevant..
If this is true, it’s gross misconduct. If I did that at work, I would be summarily dismissed, and rightly so..
Can’t see why that would be different in football, especially off the pitch..
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To go back to my previous point, why wasn't Barton arrested? I can't believe SYP wouldn't have arrested someone who didn't have a high profile in similar circumstances.
Maybe revenge sorry justice is a dish best served cold. Hope the Police gather their facts efficiently and correctly and then nail him once and for all
Maybe the Barnsley Player who did the original Tweet was advised to remove it asap - and not compromise a "fair" Trial if they get that far
Correct though in that if a Fleetwood fan had done what is alleged to a Barnsley fan he would be waking up "inside" this morning for certain
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If someone comes willingly to be interviewed you don't need to arrest them.
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Hypothetical question, possibly one for SM, if nothing comes of this and he is not punished in any way, if Barnsley FC felt strong enough are they at liberty to ban him from their stadium? Including match days where he would be opposition manager?
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Updated here
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11713/11693575/barnsleys-daniel-stendel-okay-after-alleged-joey-barton-clash-following-fleetwood-game
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It’s up to Barnsley and their Manager to push this, and I’m sure they will...
Only a corrupt FA would instigate a cover up, so they don’t have to recognise the rubbish in the back yard....
( modified ) lol
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This is unrelated to yesterday - but we could all put more thought into understanding how on earth we got turned over so convincingly by his side both home and away this season. He and his players were doing something that we could not handle.
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Not sure there was anything to learn from the home match. It was one of those bizarre games that happen once a decade. We utterly outplayed them in the first half and went in 0-3 down. 3-0 the other way would have been a truer reflection on how the sides played in that first half, but one of the joys of football is that it's not always logical.
Freak games like that happen. You shouldn't draw conclusions from them. No idea about the away game as I didn't see it.
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Not sure there was anything to learn from the home match. It was one of those bizarre games that happen once a decade. We utterly outplayed them in the first half and went in 0-3 down. 3-0 the other way would have been a truer reflection on how the sides played in that first half, but one of the joys of football is that it's not always logical.
Freak games like that happen. You shouldn't draw conclusions from them. No idea about the away game as I didn't see it.
We didn't see much of the second half because of the bloody fog.
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They have put seven past us this season, with zero in return. That is no fluke or off day. They schooled us good and proper.
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I'm not sure what "schooled" means, but as I say, if you replayed that first half at the KM 100 times, you wouldn't get another 0-3 score.
Sometimes it happens. The very worst thing you can do is dwell too much on outliers.
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The home game from memory we missed an absolute sitter at 1-0 then they scored from two corners, really poor defending from us.
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I'm not sure what "schooled" means, but as I say, if you replayed that first half at the KM 100 times, you wouldn't get another 0-3 score.
Sometimes it happens. The very worst thing you can do is dwell too much on outliers.
.. or judge games of football purely on goals. I can’t believe people still do that to be honest.
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Think that people should think before they post about this, it is an allegation and SYP are investigating, maybe the thread should be locked Mods?
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That's fine to have that opinion but who is held responsible any slanderous comments made on this forum
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Think that people should think before they post about this, it is an allegation and SYP are investigating, maybe the thread should be locked Mods?
Nobody has said anything that could be challenged legally, come on now. It's a discussion forum and any personal opinions cast on Barton have been cast regarding his long, long held reputation for being what he is known to be - a man with violent criminal tendencies in his make up.
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I would say that someone posting that the FA is corrupt could be interpreted as slanderous.
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I think that the main issue would be when the papers start reporting it.
That's when they usually say that it stops the defendant getting a fair trial.
I'm sure that whatever happened yesterday will soon be in the public domain.
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I can only assume that his life story will appear at a Cinema one day and he’ll appear just like Rocky , one man fighting against the odds and coming out on top . :boxing:
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I can only assume that his life story will appear at a Cinema one day and he’ll appear just like Rocky , one man fighting against the odds and coming out on top . :boxing:
But there is the redeeming pleasure of seeing him punched repeatedly in the face.
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He head butted the Barnsley manager. He’s on his way out of Fleetwood and football.
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Good Riddance !
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Barton’s behaviour will be discussed by fans of clubs up and down the country after yesterday’s incident. I think we are vastly over-estimating the significance of our little forum if we think there could be any repercussions over anything that’s been said on the matter on here.
Most importantly, the Barnsley manager is said to be okay.
If the allegations turn out to be true, and let’s be right they’re not remotely out of character for him, then I think Barton would be very lucky to ever be able to work in the game again.
It’s a shame as I honestly do think he’s tried with his behaviour. And on occasion I’ve found him quite compelling to listen to. But it seems he’s out of control and what is said to have happened is absolutely indefensible.
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Appentley strendel lost 2 teeth in the assault, he should lose his job, but band from football for life footballers have done much worse and still had a career afterwards , i dont like him myself as well
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Appentley strendel lost 2 teeth in the assault, he should lose his job, but band from football for life footballers have done much worse and still had a career afterwards , i dont like him myself as well
That’s a bit harsh on Stendel!
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Maybe it's only way to leave barnsley
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I think this is completely expected behaviour from the thug Barton and a completely expected contribution from Rigo.
I really hope Barton goes down for this.
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IF this is true and there has been any kind of physical assault from Barton then it’s indefensible and he will surely have to be sacked and banned for a very long time, possibly a custodial sentence too depending on the facts and evidence.
Rightly or wrongly if it was any other manager I wouldn’t be so convinced but it seems like the type of behaviour that Joey Barton has been notorious for throughout his career on and off the pitch.
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I’m sure there will be video evidence somewhere, and a number of eye witnesses too if it was in the tunnel pat game as reported. The fact that Stendel is ok doesn’t mean he wasn’t injured...
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Anything that happens in the tunnel is still in the referee's domain. I expect the EFL will have to wait for his report, The assault accusation is a matter for the police.
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I can only assume that his life story will appear at a Cinema one day and he’ll appear just like Rocky , one man fighting against the odds and coming out on top . :boxing:
‘Cocky’
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If it's true it's up there with cantana at palace. I can't see anyway he can stay in the game in this country or any other country tbh. The Barnsley manager must of said something bad for this to happen which still doesn't make it ok.
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Why must the Barnsley manager have said something bad?
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Would love to take him on a night out in Barnsley town centre, & leave him.
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If it's true it's up there with cantana at palace. I can't see anyway he can stay in the game in this country or any other country tbh. The Barnsley manager must of said something bad for this to happen which still doesn't make it ok.
i am glad you brought up Cantona when he allegedly "interacted" with that fan for "kicks" the internet was in its early days and as my post from 31 march shows i was totally shocked (see the wikipedia link) with the events that had happened prior to coming to England
i am not sure which of the two "serial offenders" is worse
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What an idiot he is. He makes Billy Whitehurst look like an oasis of calm.
on the subject of Morelos & "L00NIES" it inspired me to wonder what exactly Eric Cantona had done in France to deserve the same tag. Thanks to the internet we can see that "Eric" more than justified the tag -- his "French antics" are absolutely unbelievable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Cantona
here's the last bit to wet your appetite
".............. and Cantona subsequently announced his retirement from football on 16 December 1991.[20]
The French national team coach Michel Platini was a fan of Cantona, and persuaded him to make a comeback. On the advice of Gérard Houllier as well as his psychoanalyst, he moved to England to restart his career, "He [my psychoanalyst] advised me not to sign for Marseille and recommended that I should go to England.."
obviously Alfredo Morelos needs a psychoanalyst as well
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Should be put on the “ manager assault register”
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Just been sent this. Different photo, though not seen as much, of the same incident...
Looks like he’s having a few breathing problems there 😂😂😂
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Barnsley have lodged a formal complaint with the Football League and FA.
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Thats the best outcome imo .... and FINALLY throw the book at him IF he is judged "guilty"
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Personally I think Barton is just miss understood,
along with Seb Blatter and Donald Trump!
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Personally I think Barton is just miss understood,
along with Seb Blatter and Donald Trump!
Yes the all think their sane but nobody believes them !
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Where are Fleetwood in this should be put on gardening leave pending investigation
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Where are Fleetwood in this should be put on gardening leave pending investigation
Any one that employs him must have the same irrational tendencies or why else would they have given him the job .
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Where are Fleetwood in this should be put on gardening leave pending investigation
They tried to sneak him out of Oakwell, and also Fleetwood staff tried to stop the filming of him trying to get away, that to me is a clear admissiin of guilt, innocent people don’t try to run away
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Let's hope there's a real feeling of camaraderie among the Fleetwood players and they put in an extra shift on Friday...
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.... in their usual mode of course !
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Let's hope there's a real feeling of camaraderie among the Fleetwood players and they put in an extra shift on Friday...
Hope they play aswell as they did VS us.
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We all want to see him kicked out of the game for good, but the fact that he'll still be in charge for the Posh game could work in our favour.
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Knowing our luck ,the FA and FL they will probably leave it until Friday morning to cause as much disruption to Fleetwood as possible, or the plod realising where he is, arresting him during the game just for the publicity.
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South Yorkshire Police won't arrest him during the game to get publicity, they made a big mistake when they did the Cliff Richard raid and invited the T.V camera's
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Can anybody explain why he has not had his coaching licence suspended? I think any other governing body of a sport would have done that with immediate effect, it just shows what a weak and ineffective body the FA is.
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Probably pending investigation.. rather than a knee jerk reaction or kangaroo court..
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Suspending a licence is not a kneejerk reaction, it is a first step in the process of investigation, done when a serious allegation is made just in case it proves to be true. It should be done, and then action taken if the allegation proves to be true, as in the way Niall Mason was treated by Rovers.
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Not all clubs are like ours though are they.
Barton should have explained his side of it to his chairman as soon as possible. The heated discussion between the managers at the end is no excuse for what (allegedly) took place in the tunnel.
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But we don’t know what may or may not have been done and said within Fleetwood.?
This will be investigated, so let’s just wait and see.??
As for the OP, wouldn’t that be for the FA to answer.??
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Suspending a licence is not a kneejerk reaction, it is a first step in the process of investigation, done when a serious allegation is made just in case it proves to be true. It should be done, and then action taken if the allegation proves to be true, as in the way Niall Mason was treated by Rovers.
If you’re comparing it to Mason then surely the onus would be on Fleetwood to suspend Barton rather than the FA?
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If I was to t**t a colleague, manager, or a rival companies employee I'd be suspended immediately it came to light, subject to investigation, gross misconduct simple as and sacked if proven, same as any other poster on here but its football so its different.................................................................
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A few weeks ago a supporter ran on the pitch and aimed a punch at Jack Grealish. He was arrested immediately, appeared in court the next day and was duly sent to prison.
Joey Barton however........
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While he keeps getting away with it he will keep doing it
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Steve Bruce,Sean Dyche,Mick Hartford and maybe Grant McCann, I bet Joey Barton wouldn’t have “allegedly “ nutted any of those managers. If you go to assistants/coaches Duncan Ferguson
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I would love to see him have a pop at Big Duncan.
He would have picked a wrong in there.
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"Joey Barton: Police investigate incident allegedly involving Fleetwood manager after Barnsley match"
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47922726
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Where are Fleetwood in this should be put on gardening leave pending investigation
They tried to sneak him out of Oakwell, and also Fleetwood staff tried to stop the filming of him trying to get away, that to me is a clear admissiin of guilt, innocent people don’t try to run away
It was the Fleetwood Chairmans car, that's all you need to know about that club.....
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Quote from The vicar, While he keeps getting away with it he will keep doing it
He's not " getting away with it". He's been getting punished for his previous conduct, it's the punishment that not been severe enough.
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I would love to see him have a pop at Big Duncan.
He would have picked a wrong in there.
He soon stopped his antics when Cliff Byrne confronted him.
It would be quite amusing to see Barton and Fatty Evans on the same touchline. I'd feel sorry for the Fourth Official though.
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South Yorkshire Police have now arrested "a man" in connection with the incident. He was arrested after reporting to Barnsley Police Station by appointment.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47963144
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Racially aggravated public order offence and racially aggravated assault... That's not a slap on the wrist if he is charged with that.
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The word racially brings a whole new dimension into this.
He will get slaughtered if found guilty.
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Sky sports news
BREAKING: South Yorkshire Police have arrested a man on suspicion of racially aggravated assault and a racially aggravated public order offence following an incident at @BarnsleyFC's match with @ftfc on Saturday. #SSN
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Have to see what happens. I wonder if he’s called him a ‘German Something’ during whatever occurred, as that would change it to racially aggravated.
Best to let the facts emerge and see if this arrest is in fact Joey Barton.
I will be gobsmacked if it isn't!
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He needs to go away for a long time of this is all as it would appear to be.
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He might have used the German N word although if he's as thick as Hennessy he won't have ever heard that word.
I do think that in Barton's case it was more being criticised for the way his team played and losing than it being a foreigner who uttered the words.
It could well finish his career though.
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It will be about proof if it’s not been witnessed or on video then it’s one mans word against another.
At the moment it is suspected but asking for evidence.
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Have to see what happens. I wonder if he’s called him a ‘German Something’ during whatever occurred, as that would change it to racially aggravated.
Best to let the facts emerge and see if this arrest is in fact Joey Barton.
I will be gobsmacked if it isn't!
I think gob smacking is part of the alleged offence, TRB!
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From a selfish Rovers point of view this is bloody annoying..They have Posh on Saturday at home and I would much rather they were concentrating fully on that rather than having a whip round for his bail money..
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From a selfish Rovers point of view this is bloody annoying..They have Posh on Saturday at home and I would much rather they were concentrating fully on that rather than having a whip round for his bail money..
Could work both ways but I get where your coming from. On the face of it it doesn't seem like the best preparations.
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If he called him a Nazi, then fair play that’s deemed to be a taboo word in this day and age and should be punished in some way....
However, a little fisticuffs is no worse than some of the deliberate elbowing in the face that ya get at most set pieces, ....ain’t condoning it at all, just saying that this kind of violence happens at the majority of games, and is ONLY punished when it’s been seen.....
I don’t like Barton, he brings a thug mentality to the game that I thought was on the wane after Vinny Jones wore Gaza’s nuts on his necklace....
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Sky sports news
BREAKING: South Yorkshire Police have arrested a man on suspicion of racially aggravated assault and a racially aggravated public order offence following an incident at @BarnsleyFC's match with @ftfc on Saturday. #SSN
how come they haven't stated his age ?? unless we have new "directives"
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It will be about proof if it’s not been witnessed or on video then it’s one mans word against another.
At the moment it is suspected but asking for evidence.
Highly unlikely that no one saw it, in the tunnel after the game.
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They won't send him to prison, it would half the average IQ of the prison population at a stroke.
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Anyone remember Barton's 11 minute England career?
In an era where England weren't strangers to embarrassing performances, that one stood out.
He looked like a donkey among gazelles. He spent minutes chasing Iniesta's shadow before lunging into the back of his calf and getting booked. That was the sum of his contribution to the game.
That summed him up. A limited thug who somehow has crafted a career convincing people that he has something to contribute.
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The funniest moment of his career though must be Ze interview on French tv.
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Rigo
Don't tell me he was a grafter.
I remember seeing Wellens make a prick of him at the KM in 2014. There was one moment where Wellens turned him and sprinted away and Barton gave up. Literally gave up. He was only a yard or so away from Wellens but he just stopped and stood watching.
I have never in my life seen a player do that. Petulant, posing and pathetic.
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Random acts of stupidity? That's rubbish, Rigo, come on. He is a serial violent thug, it isn't random. This is his personality, his make-up is that of an angry, violent thug and there is no defending him on any of that.
A decent midfield player, no doubt about that. Proved that at both ends of his career really, had a terrific renaissance at Burnley after success at Man City and Newcastle. But his character is extremely questionable.
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Rigo
Don't tell me he was a grafter.
I remember seeing Wellens make a prick of him at the KM in 2014. There was one moment where Wellens turned him and sprinted away and Barton gave up. Literally gave up. He was only a yard or so away from Wellens but he just stopped and stood watching.
I have never in my life seen a player do that. Petulant, posing and pathetic.
John Sheridan?😳
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Rigo
Don't tell me he was a grafter.
I remember seeing Wellens make a prick of him at the KM in 2014. There was one moment where Wellens turned him and sprinted away and Barton gave up. Literally gave up. He was only a yard or so away from Wellens but he just stopped and stood watching.
I have never in my life seen a player do that. Petulant, posing and pathetic.
John Sheridan?😳
Curtis Main in that "pretend to jump for the ball after it's already gone and hope no one realises" thing he did the other year. That was among the most pathetic things I've ever seen in the game.
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Not sure why the story of someone bring arrested would have been on the bbc football website if it wasn’t him?
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Oh god don’t start him off on Curtis Main otherwise we’ll be on with that goal away at Bradford City justifying him as a professional footballer.
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Rigo
Don't tell me he was a grafter.
I remember seeing Wellens make a prick of him at the KM in 2014. There was one moment where Wellens turned him and sprinted away and Barton gave up. Literally gave up. He was only a yard or so away from Wellens but he just stopped and stood watching.
I have never in my life seen a player do that. Petulant, posing and pathetic.
John Sheridan?😳
Curtis Main in that "pretend to jump for the ball after it's already gone and hope no one realises" thing he did the other year. That was among the most pathetic things I've ever seen in the game.
No, Rivaldo vs Turkey in the World Cup., Turkish player kicks the ball against his shins, Rivaldo goes down holding his face, Turkish lad gets sent off..
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Oh god don’t start him off on Curtis Main otherwise we’ll be on with that goal away at Bradford City justifying him as a professional footballer.
Or Bristol City at home.. he was an enigma, that’s for sure..
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Rigo
Don't tell me he was a grafter.
I remember seeing Wellens make a prick of him at the KM in 2014. There was one moment where Wellens turned him and sprinted away and Barton gave up. Literally gave up. He was only a yard or so away from Wellens but he just stopped and stood watching.
I have never in my life seen a player do that. Petulant, posing and pathetic.
John Sheridan?😳
Curtis Main in that "pretend to jump for the ball after it's already gone and hope no one realises" thing he did the other year. That was among the most pathetic things I've ever seen in the game.
No, Rivaldo vs Turkey in the World Cup., Turkish player kicks the ball against his shins, Rivaldo goes down holding his face, Turkish lad gets sent off..
I didn't actually see the game at the time so I can't count that, personally. Just going on what I've seen happen actually at the time.
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Not sure why the story of someone bring arrested would have been on the bbc football website if it wasn’t him?
Because it relates to the incident in the tunnel of Oakwell Stadium, a football ground, at the end of a football match. Not forced to be Barton just because it's on the football site, it is football news whether it's Barton or a fan or whatever who is arrested.
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Unless it was a player or one of the coaching staff I doubt it would have made the sports news page..
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Unless it was a player or one of the coaching staff I doubt it would have made the sports news page..
Trust me, it would have. There are always stories on arrests made at games, and they're usually just scuffles between fans. Or even before games but in the same city, or between supporters elsewhere. It is sports news because it relates to the football match.
Don't get me wrong, I think it will be Barton too, but it's not definitely Barton who has been arrested just because this was on the sports pages.
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This is too much of a coincidence to be anything else..
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This is too much of a coincidence to be anything else..
Well, most likely. But that's not the argument you were making to be fair.
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Rigo
Don't tell me he was a grafter.
I remember seeing Wellens make a prick of him at the KM in 2014. There was one moment where Wellens turned him and sprinted away and Barton gave up. Literally gave up. He was only a yard or so away from Wellens but he just stopped and stood watching.
I have never in my life seen a player do that. Petulant, posing and pathetic.
John Sheridan?😳
Aye alreight. I'll give you that one. Sheridan at Morecambe was the idlest shift I've ever seen a footballer put in.
Difference was, Barton's display was 3 tiers higher. He wasn't an old pro idling his last few months away in non-league.
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Only joking Billy.
The difference in attitude between him and Steve Nichol who had a far more illustrious career was phenomenal. I thought it was worth the gate money alone just to see him play.
There's no comparison between him and the likes of Barton even if certain posters would rather watch the uncompromising lout kicking lumps out of him.
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This is too much of a coincidence to be anything else..
Well, most likely. But that's not the argument you were making to be fair.
Yes it is, although it is possible I may be wrong - but my feeling is they do mean Barton..
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Why is it that a man accused of rape but subsequently found not guilty has his identity plasters all over the papers or Cliff Richards has HIS name the same and his reputation nearly ruined . Yet the that psycho has his identity with held . Is that when the story breaks SYPD want to get ALL publicity after their cockups before.
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Rigo
Don't tell me he was a grafter.
I remember seeing Wellens make a prick of him at the KM in 2014. There was one moment where Wellens turned him and sprinted away and Barton gave up. Literally gave up. He was only a yard or so away from Wellens but he just stopped and stood watching.
I have never in my life seen a player do that. Petulant, posing and pathetic.
John Sheridan?😳
Aye alreight. I'll give you that one. Sheridan at Morecambe was the idlest shift I've ever seen a footballer put in.
Difference was, Barton's display was 3 tiers higher. He wasn't an old pro idling his last few months away in non-league.
I was embarrassed by Sheridan’s attitude but (yeah I know this thread is about a pretend hard man) can I throw the name Pascal Chimbonda into the mix for laziest football player
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Apparently denying it today that it didn't even happen
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Apparently denying it today that it didn't even happen ......
at a guess 99% of the population would deny it would you ?
if i was defending him i would point out he has a very poor memory (if you read wikipedia it is obvious he is a grafter)
"Barton would have made his debut for the City first team in November 2002 against Middlesbrough, had he not lost his shirt after leaving it on the substitutes bench at half-time.[19] He eventually made his first-team debut for the club against Bolton Wanderers on 5 April 2003.[20] His first senior goal came two weeks later in a 2–0 win over Tottenham Hotspur on Good Friday.[21] He ended the 2002–03 season with a run of seven consecutive starts"
My train of thoughts on hearing about the "Superglue" incidents yesterday made me think about the post match handshake of the two managers in the alleged "Battle of Barnsley"match . Their "handshake" was as if their hands had been "superglued" . An observer "might " say who provoked who ?? any lip readers out there ?
remember things are not what they might appear at first ............ there must be something in the Liverpool water ????
2009
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1201118/Steven-Gerrard-punched-man-like-boxer-bar-brawl-court-sees-CCTV.html
2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuk2l7W6C1Y
obviously the "person" or "persons" in the above links were "provoked" and "not convicted" of any "offence" expect the same outcome
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Apparently denying it today that it didn't even happen
Fully expected that would be the response. He's never gonna front up and admit to it straight off the cuff, IF found guilty of racially aggravated assault it would almost certainly be the end of his career in football management.
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Apparently denying it today that it didn't even happen
Fully expected that would be the response. He's never gonna front up and admit to it straight off the cuff, IF found guilty of racially aggravated assault it would almost certainly be the end of his career in football management.
I don't know, either the Stripes or Arrows at Strangeways would make use of his skills.
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i was looking at the highlights of the match in question - I have always disliked this pointless "partisan" flag waving
and glancing at the pre-match flags waving on the day with the benefit of "alleged" events and "alleged "actions
I am saying nothing but it reminded me of something - the image is blurred and simply glancing you can imagine what obviously does not exist.
fact is you can see exactly what you want -- or put an idea in your head - no further comment needed
- for the avoidance of doubt waving of flags would surely go over Mr Hennesey's head
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I believe Joey. It's a little-known fact that a German man's teeth will randomly spring out of his mouth in a shower of blood. Obviously, Barton is a good boy who likes the Smiths and never did anything wrong.