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Title: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: ian1980 on August 16, 2019, 12:03:14 pm
✍️ Welcome to Rovers Kazaiah Sterling #DRFC 

http://bit.ly/2N8zWCU
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 16, 2019, 12:04:24 pm
Is he Raheem's bro?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on August 16, 2019, 12:05:07 pm
Looks a big strapping lad.

UTR.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: DonnyOsmond on August 16, 2019, 12:05:23 pm
Is he Raheem's bro?

Nope.
Title: Re: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:05:41 pm
No doubt he's a very good player and we desperately need someone up top...But another player we are loaning who we will spend lots of time developing for someone elses benefit...

Far to many loans and that's not been negative,just want to see something for our own future going forward...
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 12:06:35 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 12:06:50 pm
While he looks a decent signing, we're going to be in the exact same position agian this time next year,
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 16, 2019, 12:07:06 pm
No doubt he's a very good player and we desperately need someone up top...But another player we are loaning who we will spend lots of time developing for someone elses benefit...

Far to many loans and that's not been negative,just want to see something for the our own future...

I would agree with this but I will take one loan up there particularly with a lot of potential.  I would like us to get a permanent one in alongside him too.

Let's see how he performs...
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: drfcsteve on August 16, 2019, 12:08:37 pm
A loan but we've got him for the full season, sounds a promising prospect.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: ian1980 on August 16, 2019, 12:09:55 pm
No doubt he's a very good player and we desperately need someone up top...But another player we are loaning who we will spend lots of time developing for someone elses benefit...

Far to many loans and that's not been negative,just want to see something for our own future going forward...

I agree with this but this loan signing probably takes the immediate pressure off and gives us more time to look around for our own ‘investment’
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Colin C No.3 on August 16, 2019, 12:10:02 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.

Ah well, let's stick him in the reserves then.

P.S. Marquis was 'woeful' at Millwall before we signed him on a free.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: pib on August 16, 2019, 12:11:08 pm
Glad we’ve got someone in, and don’t want to whinge, but it is frustrating to see us seemingly building the team around loan players.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 12:12:05 pm
Looks a big strapping lad.

UTR.

5ft 9 apparently. Let’s hope he does well. But this really isn’t forward thinking at all. Hopefully might be decent for this season though.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 12:12:16 pm
Them loan signings we had last year did nothing for us. :silly:
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 12:12:20 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.

Ah well, let's stick him in the reserves then.

P.S. Marquis was 'woeful' at Millwall before we signed him on a free.

I’m only passing on the message I’ve been given. I’ve never seen him play. Hope he scores 30 goals this season.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: jmt23 on August 16, 2019, 12:12:59 pm
If it works, this could be a very exciting season, we look to be going for all out pace, when you look across the front 4 May Taylor Ennis Sterling
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: roversam on August 16, 2019, 12:13:22 pm
Why whinge then lol
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: acacia94 on August 16, 2019, 12:14:36 pm
With three A's in his forename lets hope a triple A signing!
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Retdon1 on August 16, 2019, 12:15:12 pm
Could be a good signing, highly thought of at spurs BUT he isn’t ready to lead the line and play as an out and out striker. We still need to bring in a proven striker
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:15:54 pm
  He wasn't he was just stating fact on what he was like at Sunderland...Different club,different season,lets hope he does well here, but this I'm not liking the direction we are going in tbh...
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Shawndrfc on August 16, 2019, 12:16:08 pm
The lad looks like he could be a good signing but when you have 2 real forwards now (May and Sadlier primary position being in the 3 behind) and they are both Loanees is a little bit worrying. Hopefully we do have another striker lined up to come in on a permanent.

He did spend the 2nd half of last season with Sunderland so he does have some experience in this league.

All we can do is see what happens between now and window closing, but we have another striker in at least.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: DonnyOsmond on August 16, 2019, 12:16:46 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.

Ah well, let's stick him in the reserves then.

P.S. Marquis was 'woeful' at Millwall before we signed him on a free.

I’m only passing on the message I’ve been given. I’ve never seen him play. Hope he scores 30 goals this season.

Never played more than 33 mins a game.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Colin C No.3 on August 16, 2019, 12:17:25 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.

Ah well, let's stick him in the reserves then.

P.S. Marquis was 'woeful' at Millwall before we signed him on a free.

I’m only passing on the message I’ve been given. I’ve never seen him play. Hope he scores 30 goals this season.

So you'll happily 'slap in' a negative post on the back of 'a message' you've been given?

Grow some nads.

P.S. He played 8 games for Sunderland.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: the vicar on August 16, 2019, 12:18:03 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.
8 games for them and 1 goal
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 12:19:25 pm
Them loan signings we had last year did nothing for us. :silly:

They did well mostly. But where are they now?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on August 16, 2019, 12:20:35 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.

Ah well, let's stick him in the reserves then.

P.S. Marquis was 'woeful' at Millwall before we signed him on a free.

and to think someone said "marquis had more loans than wonga"

here's what I said about him when he signed for Sunderland

so they made it my bank manager is potentially a happy man -

have a funny feeling though this Tottenham loanee could steal the show as the star striker  (the odd one of you might recall Defoe going on loan to 4th division Bournemouth and scoring zillions after that Arsenal loaned Kevin Campbell (he's the one who scored 4 or 5 against Rovers in that Youth Cup Final 1988 think) got 9 in 16 as he pulled Orient into the play offs.

Yes it's much harder for a local lad to become a star at the top clubs
he came on as a sub in the Facup against Palace on Sunday and has a mighty 2 minutes plus injury time !! experience in the Champions League so he's no mug.

let's see what happens

 he'll do nicely

Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Metalmicky on August 16, 2019, 12:21:04 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.

Ah well, let's stick him in the reserves then.

P.S. Marquis was 'woeful' at Millwall before we signed him on a free.

I’m only passing on the message I’ve been given. I’ve never seen him play. Hope he scores 30 goals this season.

And you just happened to get that 'message' precisely two minutes after he was announced........
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Metalmicky on August 16, 2019, 12:22:50 pm
Welcome to Kazaiah Sterling - make a name for yourself lad....
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Colin C No.3 on August 16, 2019, 12:23:04 pm
Them loan signings we had last year did nothing for us. :silly:

Yeah, good riddance Wilkes, Kane & Downing...you woz rubbish.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: the vicar on August 16, 2019, 12:23:12 pm
Why whinge then lol
he didn't whinge did he just said what he had been told
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on August 16, 2019, 12:23:40 pm
Welcome to Kazaiah Sterling - make a name for yourself lad....
he's half way there already  :chair:
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: RoversAlias on August 16, 2019, 12:23:59 pm
Put it this way...if we weren't in the situation we were in, with 5 loanees and a Marquis-shaped hole up top, we'd all be hailing this as a great signing. Sterling is a well regarded young talent, highly rated at Spurs and has England youth experience.

We absolutely still need an experienced, credible striker but this is a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 16, 2019, 12:24:12 pm
Not one start for Sunderland, 8 sub appearances. You would have to be some kind of footballing genius to judge him in that time.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 12:25:37 pm
Some positive comments from Spurs fans on Twitter about him. A few questioning why he’s never had a real chance at Spurs and others saying he’ll be a blast in League 1. Looks like we’ll have a pretty quick front line this season
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 12:25:52 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.

Ah well, let's stick him in the reserves then.

P.S. Marquis was 'woeful' at Millwall before we signed him on a free.

I’m only passing on the message I’ve been given. I’ve never seen him play. Hope he scores 30 goals this season.

So you'll happily 'slap in' a negative post on the back of 'a message' you've been given?

Grow some nads.

P.S. He played 8 games for Sunderland.

I asked a good friend of mine that watches Sunderland (and used to play for Rovers) if he was any good. Reply: “Woeful. Absolutely worse than woeful in fact. Typical academy player. Nothing more than a channel runner.”

His opinion. Hope he performs better for us.

Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: DonnyOsmond on August 16, 2019, 12:25:56 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.
8 games for them and 1 goal

168 mins tbf. So 1 goal in under 2 games.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Filo on August 16, 2019, 12:26:31 pm
Lets just be happy we’ve actually got a striker in, it’s what most of us have been whinging for the last couple of weeks is n’t it?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 16, 2019, 12:27:30 pm
Looks a big strapping lad.

UTR.

Not tall certainly, looks stocky though.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Dutch Uncle on August 16, 2019, 12:28:41 pm
I am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 16, 2019, 12:29:24 pm
Doesn't need to be tall, we will be a passing team under Moore not a long ball team.  Don't hit high balls it's not a problem.  Pace and movement is as good if not a better out ball.  Wilks wasn't particularly tall and neither was James Hayter.

I say it's a good signing but do fully agree on the point of us needing one in permanently aswell.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 16, 2019, 12:29:51 pm
I am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?

Have we reached a loan limit, Dutch?

I liked the look of O'Hare.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 12:30:45 pm
I am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?

Doubt it, the only name I heard was this lad from Spurs, and is certainly one of the ones DM has spent along time pursuing.


Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 12:30:54 pm
Them loan signings we had last year did nothing for us. :silly:

They did well mostly. But where are they now?

Would you rather not have had them last season just because they were loans or not?

I don't care where they come from or for how long, just as long as they bring something with them to make the team better while they're here.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 16, 2019, 12:31:02 pm
Doesn't need to be tall, we will be a passing team under Moore not a long ball team.  Don't hit high balls it's not a problem.  Pace and movement is as good if not a better out ball.  Wilks wasn't particularly tall and neither was James Hayter.

I say it's a good signing but do fully agree on the point of us needing one in permanently aswell.

Every side needs to be a long ball team at times.

Then there is free-kicks and corners.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 12:31:14 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.

Ah well, let's stick him in the reserves then.

P.S. Marquis was 'woeful' at Millwall before we signed him on a free.

I’m only passing on the message I’ve been given. I’ve never seen him play. Hope he scores 30 goals this season.

And you just happened to get that 'message' precisely two minutes after he was announced........


I don’t make things up Michael.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 16, 2019, 12:33:00 pm
I am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?

Doubt it, the only name I heard was this lad from Spurs, and is certainly one of the ones DM has spent along time pursuing.

Has this been complemented by a search for a striker we would sign permanently?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 16, 2019, 12:34:53 pm
I’m sure the search goes in for a player to splash some cash on, but this lad deserves a chance. Who’d heard of Herbie or Mallik this time last year eh?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: roversam on August 16, 2019, 12:35:31 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.
8 games for them and 1 goal
not 8 full games though.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Colin C No.3 on August 16, 2019, 12:35:40 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.

Ah well, let's stick him in the reserves then.

P.S. Marquis was 'woeful' at Millwall before we signed him on a free.

I’m only passing on the message I’ve been given. I’ve never seen him play. Hope he scores 30 goals this season.

So you'll happily 'slap in' a negative post on the back of 'a message' you've been given?

Grow some nads.

P.S. He played 8 games for Sunderland.

I asked a good friend of mine that watches Sunderland (and used to play for Rovers) if he was any good. Reply: “Woeful. Absolutely worse than woeful in fact. Typical academy player. Nothing more than a channel runner.”

His opinion. Hope he performs better for us.



I asked a mate of mine who lives in Sunderland & used to play for Everton about Kazaiah he said, "What a talent. Spurs have a real gem in this lad. It shows the difference between the players coming out of Spurs academy & those we're (Sunderland) trying to bring on"

I didn't post it at the time though because you see.....I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM PLAY YET!
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm
 SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: ChrisBx on August 16, 2019, 12:39:03 pm
Let's see how he does this season. Certainly a big season for Sterling as Spurs will want to see that he is ready for professional football and will want evidence that he can make the step up to a higher level in the future.

What annoys me somewhat is that Moore talked of signings with records as good as, if not better than, Marquis. Clearly, Sterling doesn't match that description and it does not appear that we will be signing anyone who does match this description any time soon. This begs the question as to why Moore would make such a statement and risk looking daft when it doesn't come off?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Retdon1 on August 16, 2019, 12:39:34 pm
I am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?

Have we reached a loan limit, Dutch?

I liked the look of O'Hare.

Moore did say a few weeks ago that he would consider having more than 5 loan players
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on August 16, 2019, 12:40:43 pm
nobody seems to have noticed it is a season long loan . If i hadn't forgotten about him I'd would have had him in the rumour mill yonks ago.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Metalmicky on August 16, 2019, 12:40:58 pm
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Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 12:42:04 pm
He was woeful at Sunderland last season.

Ah well, let's stick him in the reserves then.

P.S. Marquis was 'woeful' at Millwall before we signed him on a free.

I’m only passing on the message I’ve been given. I’ve never seen him play. Hope he scores 30 goals this season.

So you'll happily 'slap in' a negative post on the back of 'a message' you've been given?

Grow some nads.

P.S. He played 8 games for Sunderland.

I asked a good friend of mine that watches Sunderland (and used to play for Rovers) if he was any good. Reply: “Woeful. Absolutely worse than woeful in fact. Typical academy player. Nothing more than a channel runner.”

His opinion. Hope he performs better for us.



I asked a mate of mine who lives in Sunderland & used to play for Everton about Kazaiah he said, "What a talent. Spurs have a real gem in this lad. It shows the difference between the players coming out of Spurs academy & those we're (Sunderland) trying to bring on"

I didn't post it at the time though because you see.....I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM PLAY YET!

Did he never see Josh Maja play? The youth strike they sold to a French L1 club for millions last year?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: jmt23 on August 16, 2019, 12:43:19 pm
I’m looking forward to how this pans out. It is becoming clearer that DM wants speed and skill, and is trying to bring in the best young talent he has seen.
I am imagining:

               Ennis.      Sterling
                     Sadlier
May.               Copps.              Taylor

The pace and skill should be frightening to most teams
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:44:17 pm
not with monicurs and read ticks it isn't...Jesus he was only passing on what somebody told him about him..Thats what this forum should be for..
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 16, 2019, 12:44:42 pm
Can we not just judge him on his performances?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 12:45:04 pm
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Grow up.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 16, 2019, 12:45:17 pm
Anyway.

Everyone at the club - Manager, Fans, Journalists who follow us - have agreed based on the first 3 games that we desperately need a centre-forward with some physical presence to get the ball down, hold the ball up, and bring others into play. There has been a massive and obvious gap in the team.

This is an incredible responsibility for an inexperienced young loan player to take up. Either he shines, or we fail miserably.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: elmsallrover on August 16, 2019, 12:46:49 pm
Sounds of desperation to me
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Shawndrfc on August 16, 2019, 12:47:21 pm
I really do hope the lad does well this season and that we get 2-3 players in now to fill the gaps DM has pointed out on a permanent basis.

I can see why it’s taken so long for this to happen because Tottenham don’t have anyone behind Kane really so these younger lads could be vital for them this season.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 12:50:32 pm
Can we not just judge him on his performances?

Nice idea, but this is Viking Chat. Such sanity isn’t welcome. 🤫
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 12:50:49 pm
I am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?

Doubt it, the only name I heard was this lad from Spurs, and is certainly one of the ones DM has spent along time pursuing.

Has this been complemented by a search for a striker we would sign permanently?

Yes, it has. I heard a few names, but for one reason or another we haven't been able to complete. That doesn't mean we won't though.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Filo on August 16, 2019, 12:53:03 pm
I’m looking forward to how this pans out. It is becoming clearer that DM wants speed and skill, and is trying to bring in the best young talent he has seen.
I am imagining:

               Ennis.      Sterling
                     Sadlier
May.               Copps.              Taylor

The pace and skill should be frightening to most teams

so with a back four in there you’ll not bother with Whiteman of Sheif?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 12:54:36 pm
I am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?

Doubt it, the only name I heard was this lad from Spurs, and is certainly one of the ones DM has spent along time pursuing.

Has this been complemented by a search for a striker we would sign permanently?

Yes, it has. I heard a few names, but for one reason or another we haven't been able to complete. That doesn't mean we won't though.


That’s encouraging to hear. I hope there’s still an option for our future that we can sort.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: sha66y on August 16, 2019, 12:58:09 pm
While he looks a decent signing, we're going to be in the exact same position agian this time next year,

Not at all...this might just be a “stop gap” loan...

To take the pressure off whilst we take our time ( 2-3 weeks) to get the existing deals over the line, .......

This isn’t a fact, but I doubt our club would just ditch those targeted just because we have brought someone else in....

I hope

Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.


Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: the vicar on August 16, 2019, 01:09:12 pm
While he looks a decent signing, we're going to be in the exact same position agian this time next year,

Not at all...this might just be a “stop gap” loan...

To take the pressure off whilst we take our time ( 2-3 weeks) to get the existing deals over the line, .......

This isn’t a fact, but I doubt our club would just ditch those targeted just because we have brought someone else in....

I hope


not for a season long loan its not a stop gap
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Bezza on August 16, 2019, 01:10:26 pm
Looking forward to seeing this lad and him proving the knockers wrong, I think the Rovers are in for an exciting ride.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: 5 on Tour on August 16, 2019, 01:11:36 pm
The negativity around signings on here is getting beyond belief now. Support the lad and  see what happens. Half the “fans” on here would rather degrade someone before they’ve kicked a ball than actually show some faith and trust in the lad. “His record was poor at Sunderland” and? Marquis couldn’t hit water from a boat at Millwall and looked what he achieved.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: sha66y on August 16, 2019, 01:14:26 pm
While he looks a decent signing, we're going to be in the exact same position agian this time next year,

Not at all...this might just be a “stop gap” loan...

To take the pressure off whilst we take our time ( 2-3 weeks) to get the existing deals over the line, .......

This isn’t a fact, but I doubt our club would just ditch those targeted just because we have brought someone else in....

I hope


not for a season long loan its not a stop gap

Can’t argue with that.....it’ll be interesting to see how things pan out should the additional striker/s be signed..

But a big target man seems to be not what DM is looking for, or so it would appear..
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:16:09 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:19:10 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?

Do you think our current recruitment strategy is planning for the long term?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 16, 2019, 01:19:29 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

No, what is obvious is a change in plan dictating a change in strategy at least for the short term.  Darren may want to be planning long term, but late in the window, having had a late start he cannot do that.

It wasn't the board's fault Mccann left.  A huge amount of work was done and wasted, by that point it becomes quite late so plans change.  We may have to accept that for this season we'll make do and try and build longer term at a later point.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Canadian Rover on August 16, 2019, 01:22:04 pm
Got a feeling this lad is going to be very special for us.

In terms of loan signings being short term- Whiteman has proved why getting a lad in on loan works.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: the vicar on August 16, 2019, 01:23:28 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?
the top man isn't a football fan it's not his bag at all
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:24:38 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?

Do you think our current recruitment strategy is planning for the long term?

Answering my question with a question? Are you a politician? Again, do you honestly believe our Board doesn’t have a long term plan??
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: JonWallsend on August 16, 2019, 01:26:16 pm
Give the lad a chance. The general consensus among the Sunderland fans that I know, and who watch them regularly, is that Will Grigg has been an absolute waste of money and done nothing. They think Wyke looks decent if the ball is played into his feet but because he's a big unit, they tend to pump it long and he's been made to look poor. When they played us at the SOL it was his best game by some distance.

Very few of them are convinced by Jack Ross because of his inability, Maja aside, to get anything out of his forwards.

I'm sure everyone would have considered Grigg or Wyke to be an excellent signing had either of them come in and Sunderland would have been pleased to get rid.

It remains to be seen if he is the answer. Hopefully as has been alluded to this is a loan signing to buy time as a precursor to getting someone in full time but if not and he does well then great.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: vaya on August 16, 2019, 01:30:24 pm
Give the lad a chance. The general consensus among the Sunderland fans that I know, and who watch them regularly, is that Will Grigg has been an absolute waste of money and done nothing. They think Wyke looks decent if the ball is played into his feet but because he's a big unit, they tend to pump it long and he's been made to look poor. When they played us at the SOL it was his best game by some distance.

Very few of them are convinced by Jack Ross because of his inability, Maja aside, to get anything out of his forwards.

I'm sure everyone would have considered Grigg or Wyke to be an excellent signing had either of them come in and Sunderland would have been pleased to get rid.

It remains to be seen if he is the answer. Hopefully as has been alluded to this is a loan signing to buy time as a precursor to getting someone in full time but if not and he does well then great.


Heard similar about Ross, and that he was to some extent on borrowed time before a ball was kicked this season.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 01:32:22 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?

Do you think our current recruitment strategy is planning for the long term?

Do you honestly think that the club doesn't do short-term planning, medium-term planning and long-term planning all at the same time, or do you genuinely think they make it up as they along just because you don't know anything about what's happening?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:33:43 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?

Do you think our current recruitment strategy is planning for the long term?

Answering my question with a question? Are you a politician? Again, do you honestly believe our Board doesn’t have a long term plan??

The evidence suggests they don't.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: jmt23 on August 16, 2019, 01:40:52 pm
I’m looking forward to how this pans out. It is becoming clearer that DM wants speed and skill, and is trying to bring in the best young talent he has seen.
I am imagining:

               Ennis.      Sterling
                     Sadlier
May.               Copps.              Taylor

The pace and skill should be frightening to most teams

so with a back four in there you’ll not bother with Whiteman of Sheif?

Sorry Copps or Sadlier
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 01:44:03 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?

Do you think our current recruitment strategy is planning for the long term?

Answering my question with a question? Are you a politician? Again, do you honestly believe our Board doesn’t have a long term plan??

The evidence suggests they don't.


CSI Rovers, and just as realistic as the tv series.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Dutch Uncle on August 16, 2019, 01:58:30 pm
I am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?

Have we reached a loan limit, Dutch?

I liked the look of O'Hare.

We are certainly allowed to make more loan signings, but no more than 5 are allowed in a match day squad of 18, and we now have 5.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 02:05:14 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

The strategy is set by the Manager, but of course that then has to be approved by the wider board. And no doubt at interview stage the board and Manager reach an agreed position on the way forward, which will be amended as circumstances dictate.

And so far this close season circumstances have forced the hand to an extent, not totally of course, but certainly had an impact. We've actually got one more loan player than was originally envisaged for example.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 02:08:12 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?
the top man isn't a football fan it's not his bag at all

Does being a football fan make all the difference Dave?

Do you think the Glazers were football fans, or Stan Kroenke, or the Qatari Government?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 16, 2019, 02:10:39 pm
If you look at this signing in isolation, it's got potential to be an excellent loan however the issue is people are looking at the Marquis replacement which he is unlikely to be. I still think DM is still looking for that piece of the jigsaw, given it looks like we've had one or two knock backs. I'm sure, when the opportunity comes he'll go for a proven, more experienced striker too.

Some refer to a leader of the line, an experienced striker, a hold up man etc. However, we describe it, I think we all know what we mean and it doesn't necessarily have to be a big lump in the middle but someone with strength, guile and experience. The search goes on.


In the meantime, I look forward to seeing this new lad along with Taylor, Ennis and John tomorrow at some point.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 02:10:56 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

The strategy is set by the Manager, but of course that then has to be approved by the wider board. And no doubt at interview stage the board and Manager reach an agreed position on the way forward, which will be amended as circumstances dictate.

And so far this close season circumstances have forced the hand to an extent, not totally of course, but certainly had an impact. We've actually got one more loan player than was originally envisaged for example.


Mr McCann leaving wasn’t ideal was it. We would be better suited if the strategy was set by the board and the coach was just a part of that. That has to be the way we end up going. A sporting director/ director of football would make this possible. Especially with Gavin having so much on his plate.

I’ll throw a name out there as the first DoF, James Coppinger. He understands the technical aspect of the game and he has a broader understanding of what it takes to be a success as a footballer.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Campsall rover on August 16, 2019, 02:16:51 pm
I’m looking forward to how this pans out. It is becoming clearer that DM wants speed and skill, and is trying to bring in the best young talent he has seen.
I am imagining:

               Ennis.      Sterling
                     Sadlier
May.               Copps.              Taylor

The pace and skill should be frightening to most teams

so with a back four in there you’ll not bother with Whiteman of Sheif?
If we play with a front 6 as above it’s going to be interesting
We may score 4/5 but i guarantee we will concede 6/7  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: BawtryRed on August 16, 2019, 02:18:44 pm
Comments from my Sunderland season ticket work colleague- “He was ok. Didn’t really get a chance. He is quite fast and powerful. Poor first touch. Not as good as Marquis, or his brother Raheem. Given a run he might be a handful“
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 16, 2019, 02:24:10 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

More utter w@nk
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 16, 2019, 02:25:19 pm
If all this lad does is hold the ball up and feed it in to midfielders running forwards he could have a starting place without scoring a single goal. It will be nice if he chips in as well. Fingers crossed, welcome to Rovers Kaziah, do your best.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Campsall rover on August 16, 2019, 02:26:01 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?

Do you think our current recruitment strategy is planning for the long term?

Answering my question with a question? Are you a politician? Again, do you honestly believe our Board doesn’t have a long term plan??

The evidence suggests they don't.
You are getting more than boring with your swipes at the board.
Go and support Bury or Bolton you will love it. Right up your street.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 02:28:00 pm
Comments from my Sunderland season ticket work colleague- “He was ok. Didn’t really get a chance. He is quite fast and powerful. Poor first touch. Not as good as Marquis, or his brother Raheem. Given a run he might be a handful“

They're not related.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 02:28:33 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

More utter w@nk

To be fair, SM has just said the manager sets out the strategy. This is perfectly reasonable, but I wouldn’t class it as a long term ideology considering the lifespan of managers. The manager leaves and the plan has to change. It’s been quite successful for us over the last 10 years but maybe there is a better way to do things.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 02:32:07 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

More utter w@nk

We've got a live one here. Abuse from behind your keyboard. Well done.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 02:36:39 pm
I’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 02:42:20 pm
I’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly.

Long-term planning in usually five years or more. Managers won't be doing that, as player contracts are very rarely more than three years, if that. Permanent signings would fall more into medium-term planning. Short-term plans rarely look any further than twelve months, so that covers loan signings.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 02:47:12 pm
I’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly.

Long-term planning in usually five years or more. Managers won't be doing that, as player contracts are very rarely more than three years, if that. Permanent signings would fall more into medium-term planning. Short-term plans rarely look any further than twelve months, so that covers loan signings.

Substitute long for medium then, as there is still the same conflict.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 02:57:05 pm
I’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly.

Long-term planning in usually five years or more. Managers won't be doing that, as player contracts are very rarely more than three years, if that. Permanent signings would fall more into medium-term planning. Short-term plans rarely look any further than twelve months, so that covers loan signings.

Substitute long for medium then, as there is still the same conflict.

Any good business will have long, medium, and short-term plans all operating in conjunction at the same time without any conflict at all. I'm not sure what conflict you mean?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 16, 2019, 03:04:33 pm
I’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly.

These are two related but different points.

The 12 month rolling contract is essentially a compensation hedge. It doesn’t really impact how long a manager sticks around, especially given we are not paying our managers that much I imagine so even if longer deal they could easily be bought out. How many times do managers not move due to compensation dispute? Very few.

Separate, keeping our managers for long(er) periods of time and getting them to set and implement a long(er) term plan is sensible. SOD was last manager to do that with any success.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 03:05:08 pm
I’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly.

Long-term planning in usually five years or more. Managers won't be doing that, as player contracts are very rarely more than three years, if that. Permanent signings would fall more into medium-term planning. Short-term plans rarely look any further than twelve months, so that covers loan signings.

Substitute long for medium then, as there is still the same conflict.

Any good business will have long, medium, and short-term plans all operating in conjunction at the same time without any conflict at all. I'm not sure what conflict you mean?

The conflict of having somebody contracted to deliver immediate term success in charge of developing the medium / long term strategy. The two may be at odds.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 03:12:24 pm
I’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly.

Long-term planning in usually five years or more. Managers won't be doing that, as player contracts are very rarely more than three years, if that. Permanent signings would fall more into medium-term planning. Short-term plans rarely look any further than twelve months, so that covers loan signings.

Substitute long for medium then, as there is still the same conflict.

Any good business will have long, medium, and short-term plans all operating in conjunction at the same time without any conflict at all. I'm not sure what conflict you mean?

The conflict of having somebody contracted to deliver immediate term success in charge of developing the medium / long term strategy. The two may be at odds.

They wouldn't be in charge of all medium- or long- term planning, just that in their own area. And you can't not have a manger make those plans just because they might not be here at the end of that plan, you have to be flexible. Just as every other business has to be, because they know personnel isn't static.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 03:15:31 pm
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?

It isn't going to happen, is it?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 03:16:07 pm
I’m not a detractor of the one year rolling contract for managers as I can absolutely see why we do it that way. But is it right for a manager on a one year rolling deal to set the long term vision of the club? To me there’s an immediate conflict with pushing short term fixes. Something to think about certainly.

Long-term planning in usually five years or more. Managers won't be doing that, as player contracts are very rarely more than three years, if that. Permanent signings would fall more into medium-term planning. Short-term plans rarely look any further than twelve months, so that covers loan signings.

Substitute long for medium then, as there is still the same conflict.

Any good business will have long, medium, and short-term plans all operating in conjunction at the same time without any conflict at all. I'm not sure what conflict you mean?

The conflict of having somebody contracted to deliver immediate term success in charge of developing the medium / long term strategy. The two may be at odds.

But they're not. The short term strategy lies with the Manager, but the longer term is decided by the Board. Obviously the Boards strategy is based on the ultimate objectives of the business and how they see it , the Managers must fit within that.

It's exactly the same with the business I work for. Our medium and long term strategy is laid out by the Board based in Denmark, and our country strategy must meet that, but we have to operate in our local market and be flexible with our daily operations. That is managed by our Country Manager and down through the ranks.

Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: elmsallrover on August 16, 2019, 03:39:05 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?
the top man isn't a football fan it's not his bag at all
and he also thinks that football players are over paid
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: StocktonRover on August 16, 2019, 03:39:52 pm
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?

It is going to happen, isn’t it?
Think your last line was supposed to as above 😏
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 16, 2019, 03:42:49 pm
I’m looking forward to how this pans out. It is becoming clearer that DM wants speed and skill, and is trying to bring in the best young talent he has seen.
I am imagining:

               Ennis.      Sterling
                     Sadlier
May.               Copps.              Taylor

The pace and skill should be frightening to most teams

so with a back four in there you’ll not bother with Whiteman of Sheif?
If we play with a front 6 as above it’s going to be interesting
We may score 4/5 but i guarantee we will concede 6/7  :facepalm:
A back 4 to finish the team off? So we drop our current captain then? Not too sure the manager would agree.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: grayx on August 16, 2019, 03:57:53 pm
Sterling will probs start on the bench.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 16, 2019, 04:00:40 pm
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?

It isn't going to happen, is it?

It remains to be seen doesn’t it but you could argue that point about any striker signed.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 16, 2019, 04:04:28 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

More utter w@nk from one of the top w@nkers in here. Feck off

We've got a live one here. Abuse from behind your keyboard. Well done.

Well, you’re one of those people who just complains all the time. Nothing is ever good enough. Always negative. You’re pointless and you just make yourself look stupid.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 04:06:24 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

More utter w@nk

We've got a live one here. Abuse from behind your keyboard. Well done.

Well, you’re one of those people who just complains all the time. Nothing is ever good enough. Always negative. You’re pointless and you just make yourself look stupid.

So you resort to foul and abusive language? Your mam must be proud.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 16, 2019, 04:07:12 pm
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?

It isn't going to happen, is it?

And again... stupid speculation based on baseless non-facts. You have no idea what this kid can do and you have no idea what goes on behind the scenes at the club. Jesus.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 16, 2019, 04:08:06 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

More utter w@nk

We've got a live one here. Abuse from behind your keyboard. Well done.

Well, you’re one of those people who just complains all the time. Nothing is ever good enough. Always negative. You’re pointless and you just make yourself look stupid.

So you resort to foul and abusive language? Your mam must be proud.

Awwww. Bless.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: john_donc857 on August 16, 2019, 04:18:18 pm
Should be a good player as he’s still at spurs at 20 years of age. It’s obvious now though that our own youth players who were given a professional contract last season won’t get a look in this season. So what about their development? Will we be sending them out on loan to non league to bring them on like we’re doing with other teams youth players
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 04:19:32 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

More utter w@nk

We've got a live one here. Abuse from behind your keyboard. Well done.

Well, you’re one of those people who just complains all the time. Nothing is ever good enough. Always negative. You’re pointless and you just make yourself look stupid.

So you resort to foul and abusive language? Your mam must be proud.

Awwww. Bless.

Funny, those who resort to the personal abuse are always the kind to do it from the safety of the forum. Put them in a real situation, they'd never do it to anyone's face. Cowards.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: sha66y on August 16, 2019, 04:20:06 pm
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?

It isn't going to happen, is it?

he doesn’t have to replace any goals we have lost......that was last year silly!
This is 2019 and it’s a new season...so we could hypothetically win 1-0 every game, and share the goals amongst the attacking players,

That’d fcuk up your logic a bit?

This really isn’t that hard to work out ya know...1 goal to nil wins a game...our goalie, defence and defensive midfielder do their jobs right..we don’t concede..
Our attacking players manage to create ten chances but score one....we win, we get 3 points, and that’s pretty much all we have to do this season....
And yes I can see that happening...
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 04:20:55 pm
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?

It isn't going to happen, is it?

he doesn’t have to replace any goals we have lost......that was last year silly!
This is 2019 and it’s a new season...so we could hypothetically win 1-0 every game, and share the goals amongst the attacking players,

That’d fcuk up your logic a bit?

This really isn’t that hard to work out ya know...1 goal to nil wins a game...our goalie, defence and defensive midfielder do their jobs right..we don’t concede..
Our attacking players manage to create ten chances but score one....we win, we get 3 points, and that’s pretty much all we have to do this season....
And yes I can see that happening...

What drugs are you taking? And that's a serious question.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: dickos1 on August 16, 2019, 04:24:02 pm
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?

It isn't going to happen, is it?

he doesn’t have to replace any goals we have lost......that was last year silly!
This is 2019 and it’s a new season...so we could hypothetically win 1-0 every game, and share the goals amongst the attacking players,

That’d fcuk up your logic a bit?

This really isn’t that hard to work out ya know...1 goal to nil wins a game...our goalie, defence and defensive midfielder do their jobs right..we don’t concede..
Our attacking players manage to create ten chances but score one....we win, we get 3 points, and that’s pretty much all we have to do this season....
And yes I can see that happening...

You have some very odd views on football
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: sha66y on August 16, 2019, 04:25:54 pm
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?

It isn't going to happen, is it?

he doesn’t have to replace any goals we have lost......that was last year silly!
This is 2019 and it’s a new season...so we could hypothetically win 1-0 every game, and share the goals amongst the attacking players,

That’d fcuk up your logic a bit?

This really isn’t that hard to work out ya know...1 goal to nil wins a game...our goalie, defence and defensive midfielder do their jobs right..we don’t concede..
Our attacking players manage to create ten chances but score one....we win, we get 3 points, and that’s pretty much all we have to do this season....
And yes I can see that happening...

What drugs are you taking? And that's a serious question.

A little bit of Naproxim for a war wound....why ?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: sha66y on August 16, 2019, 04:28:09 pm
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?

It isn't going to happen, is it?

he doesn’t have to replace any goals we have lost......that was last year silly!
This is 2019 and it’s a new season...so we could hypothetically win 1-0 every game, and share the goals amongst the attacking players,

That’d fcuk up your logic a bit?

This really isn’t that hard to work out ya know...1 goal to nil wins a game...our goalie, defence and defensive midfielder do their jobs right..we don’t concede..
Our attacking players manage to create ten chances but score one....we win, we get 3 points, and that’s pretty much all we have to do this season....
And yes I can see that happening...

You have some very odd views on football

I think we all do Dickos , just depends upon the agenda I guess...

Are you saying that we can’t or shouldnt try and win 1-0 ?


Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: dickos1 on August 16, 2019, 04:28:42 pm
I’m saying it’s not possible to win every game 1-0
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: DonnyOsmond on August 16, 2019, 04:29:33 pm
Pigott too pls
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: sha66y on August 16, 2019, 04:32:19 pm
I’m saying it’s not possible to win every game 1-0

But it is possible to score one more than the opposition most of the time, if you work hard at not conceding.....


Oooooohhhh, that’s a thinker!
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 04:36:40 pm
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?

It isn't going to happen, is it?

he doesn’t have to replace any goals we have lost......that was last year silly!
This is 2019 and it’s a new season...so we could hypothetically win 1-0 every game, and share the goals amongst the attacking players,

That’d fcuk up your logic a bit?

This really isn’t that hard to work out ya know...1 goal to nil wins a game...our goalie, defence and defensive midfielder do their jobs right..we don’t concede..
Our attacking players manage to create ten chances but score one....we win, we get 3 points, and that’s pretty much all we have to do this season....
And yes I can see that happening...

What drugs are you taking? And that's a serious question.

Quote
Funny, those who resort to the personal abuse are always the kind to do it from the safety of the forum. Put them in a real situation, they'd never do it to anyone's face. Cowards.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: drfc1951 on August 16, 2019, 04:55:58 pm
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards...

 You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...

I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.

What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.




Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.

There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.

Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?
the top man isn't a football fan it's not his bag at all
and he also thinks that football players are over paid
And you know that for a fact do you
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: elmsallrover on August 16, 2019, 05:28:32 pm
Said it himself at one of the first meet the owners also said he didn't like other people spending his money
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: dickos1 on August 16, 2019, 05:42:40 pm
I’m saying it’s not possible to win every game 1-0

But it is possible to score one more than the opposition most of the time, if you work hard at not conceding.....


Oooooohhhh, that’s a thinker!

Yes, and we’re not conceding many but we ain’t scoring enough to score more than the other side

This seems to be obvious to everyone apart from you
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 16, 2019, 06:13:54 pm
Said it himself at one of the first meet the owners also said he didn't like other people spending his money

He didn't say it in that context though did he. He was referring to not being consulted on how the money was being spent.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 06:25:25 pm
Said it himself at one of the first meet the owners also said he didn't like other people spending his money

He didn't say it in that context though did he. He was referring to not being consulted on how the money was being spent.

It's all about context, and you're absolutely spot on there Baz.

The players are paid too much was definitely tongue in cheek, and he's wasn't specifically talking about DRFC players. And he definitely meant that he wasn't being consulted about people spending his money, and when that runs into £100's of thousands then I can sympathise.

Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: drfchound on August 16, 2019, 06:38:50 pm
Back to the topic of the signing of Sterling - are we really expecting this kid to replace the goals we've lost?

It isn't going to happen, is it?

he doesn’t have to replace any goals we have lost......that was last year silly!
This is 2019 and it’s a new season...so we could hypothetically win 1-0 every game, and share the goals amongst the attacking players,

That’d fcuk up your logic a bit?

This really isn’t that hard to work out ya know...1 goal to nil wins a game...our goalie, defence and defensive midfielder do their jobs right..we don’t concede..
Our attacking players manage to create ten chances but score one....we win, we get 3 points, and that’s pretty much all we have to do this season....
And yes I can see that happening...

What drugs are you taking? And that's a serious question.

Quote
Funny, those who resort to the personal abuse are always the kind to do it from the safety of the forum. Put them in a real situation, they'd never do it to anyone's face. Cowards.




Glyn, it isn't often that we agree but I was going to post exactly what you have done, you just beat me to it.

A classic.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Branton Rover on August 16, 2019, 07:45:20 pm
Delighted we’ve got 3 loan young guns from the Premiership - hopefully they all do well - we’ve still got money in the bank to get our own pound for pound Marquis replacement in !! I have absolute faith in Big Darren & his pulling power to get us a real number 9 through the door shortly - I like the way he conducts his business saying no to agents & picking his own players meticulously. Nobody saw us sign Taylor until it was announced 
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: the vicar on August 16, 2019, 09:04:09 pm
I’m saying it’s not possible to win every game 1-0
Reading almost did it in the 70s or 80s they had a great defence well everyone back but one won the ball back then big hoof to the lone striker and in the back of the net, they beat us 1-0as well twice
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: drfchound on August 16, 2019, 09:07:48 pm
So how many did they not win 1-0 then?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: donyderek on August 16, 2019, 09:26:26 pm
You can see were the negativity comes from DM said the striker will be as good if not better than JM. Then we get a young kid who needs developing and as scored 1 goal at this level. Beggers belief
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Retdon1 on August 16, 2019, 09:31:04 pm
You can see were the negativity comes from DM said the striker will be as good if not better than JM. Then we get a young kid who needs developing and as scored 1 goal at this level. Beggers belief

Yep, we have to bring it a striker that isn’t a young lad on loan. Either a experienced player that is proven at this level or a younger player with decent pedigree that we can further develop but will hit the ground running... there’s no excuse for the time it’s taking us to find one
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 16, 2019, 09:45:03 pm
You can see were the negativity comes from DM said the striker will be as good if not better than JM. Then we get a young kid who needs developing and as scored 1 goal at this level. Beggers belief

Did Moore say that about THIS striker?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Reesielad on August 16, 2019, 09:45:46 pm
Who’s SM?


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Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Michael Shaw on August 16, 2019, 09:55:02 pm
We haven't won a single game since we played Gainsborough in early pre-season!  No-one can contradict that.
Do we look like a team trying to get into the playoffs, I don't think so. Just give up thinking about promotion and who we do and don't get.
Just watch the matches or go shopping with the misses because there's nothing exciting either way.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: DonnyOsmond on August 16, 2019, 10:00:50 pm
We haven't won a single game since we played Gainsborough in early pre-season!  No-one can contradict that.
Do we look like a team trying to get into the playoffs, I don't think so. Just give up thinking about promotion and who we do and don't get.
Just watch the matches or go shopping with the misses because there's nothing exciting either way.

Have you ever made a positive post?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 16, 2019, 10:05:57 pm
We haven't won a single game since we played Gainsborough in early pre-season!  No-one can contradict that.
Do we look like a team trying to get into the playoffs, I don't think so. Just give up thinking about promotion and who we do and don't get.
Just watch the matches or go shopping with the misses because there's nothing exciting either way.

What about just stopping posting?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 10:12:56 pm
We haven't won a single game since we played Gainsborough in early pre-season!  No-one can contradict that.
Do we look like a team trying to get into the playoffs, I don't think so. Just give up thinking about promotion and who we do and don't get.
Just watch the matches or go shopping with the misses because there's nothing exciting either way.

Is it just me or do we seem to have a group of posters intent on winding people up with ridiculous posts such as this?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 16, 2019, 10:24:40 pm
HA

It happens every year or so. It's like a shite DDoS attack.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Reesielad on August 16, 2019, 10:28:45 pm
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Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 16, 2019, 10:59:46 pm
HA

It happens every year or so. It's like a shite DDoS attack.
We haven't won a single game since we played Gainsborough in early pre-season!  No-one can contradict that.
Do we look like a team trying to get into the playoffs, I don't think so. Just give up thinking about promotion and who we do and don't get.
Just watch the matches or go shopping with the misses because there's nothing exciting either way.

Is it just me or do we seem to have a group of posters intent on winding people up with ridiculous posts such as this?

Yep, you've got it. There's a small group who keep protesting, changing their names to keep posting the same old attention seeking crap. Who are the keyboard warriors and the cowards?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Darren on August 16, 2019, 11:08:52 pm
HA

It happens every year or so. It's like a shite DDoS attack.
We haven't won a single game since we played Gainsborough in early pre-season!  No-one can contradict that.
Do we look like a team trying to get into the playoffs, I don't think so. Just give up thinking about promotion and who we do and don't get.
Just watch the matches or go shopping with the misses because there's nothing exciting either way.

Is it just me or do we seem to have a group of posters intent on winding people up with ridiculous posts such as this?

Yep, you've got it. There's a small group who keep protesting, changing their names to keep posting the same old attention seeking crap. Who are the keyboard warriors and the cowards?
I agree,probably one or two posters with multiple ID's and they are making a concerted effort to disrupt the forum with pathetic posts.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Colin C No.3 on August 16, 2019, 11:20:34 pm
We haven't won a single game since we played Gainsborough in early pre-season!  No-one can contradict that.
Do we look like a team trying to get into the playoffs, I don't think so. Just give up thinking about promotion and who we do and don't get.
Just watch the matches or go shopping with the misses because there's nothing exciting either way.

I feel your pain. So torn am I. No wins, no Championship equivalent striker signed, shopping with my beloved given these circumstances is surely the most sensible option.

Woe, woe & thrice woe.

And yet, something (I know not what), draws me towards that team, that club, that stadium, those other fans whose ‘foolishness’ makes them turn up every game, every season, every decade...bringing with them another generation of young supporters & for what?

Perchance a win on Saturday, an excitement bordering on exuberance, a happy bonding of all within that stadium be it only fleeting?

A chance perhaps to see a team evolving, even though it might be composed of loanee players we might never see beyond this season but may give us, ‘their best season to date’ which might lead us to....well, who knows where, except perhaps Darren Moore, Gavin Baldwin & the owners.

The owners. Who have been described by some on this forum as ‘non football people’...’they don’t even like football’...etc. Yet these ‘non football people’ continue, season after season, to ensure that Doncaster Rovers continues to exist as a ‘Club’ for the benefit of the people of Doncaster by continually putting £millions, not £thousands, of their families ‘inheritance’ into ‘our club’ year after year to ensure its sustainability in a football environment littered with ‘financially failed clubs’ which with it brings a poignant reminder of the demise of those clubs whose names were famous throughout all the lives of us that have, with all due respect, have a longer memory than some on the forum.

No chance of promotion? No chance of the play offs? No excitement for us to hope for this season?

See you in the shopping centre Saturday then.

Although somehow, I think not. The Keepmoat calls. The Rovers call.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: dknward2 on August 16, 2019, 11:38:52 pm
“Just forget about promotion” did he really write that, we are two, TWO league games into a 46 game season depending on what happens with certain other clubs, may as well tell the rest of the league from 6th down not to bother either because they have no chance whatsoever of the play offs and those not in the top two give them the trophy and runners up medal already.

Think football might not be for you if up think that way, maybe life maybe not for you either, how about leaving donny rovers to us men and women with a backbone, we may not win every game but we are there to support the club (board included), manager and players that give their all and want to do their best for us, including the moaning bas**rds that would moan if you give into every wish they made complaining that they had to think of things to wish for.
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Michael Shaw on August 16, 2019, 11:43:01 pm
Let me see ...

“Did Moore say that about THIS striker?”  DM doesn’t say anything specific so how does anyone know who he was referring to.

“Have you ever made a positive post?”  Yes I have when there is something positive to say. We can only hope these new players cab turn the club’s results around but picking up 2 and dropping 4 is not positive as far as I am concerned.

“What about just stopping posting?”  I don’t post all that much compared to most on here, including you who never shuts up and like many others feel they have to pass comment constantly.

“Is it just me or do we seem to have a group of posters intent on winding people up with ridiculous posts such as this?” Maybe that’s because we shot out of the blocks last season and many fans are concerning how slow we are this season.

“It happens every year or so. It's like a shite DDoS attack.” To be fair. I think this year has been worse than most because of the mess McCann left us in and Moore has been so slow rectifiying it. Anyone would think the season hasn’t started yet.

“Yep, you've got it. There's a small group who keep protesting, changing their names to keep posting the same old attention seeking crap. Who are the keyboard warriors and the cowards?”  Why do you think I have more than one id like everyone else. You just can’t accept that there are genuinely SO MANY unhappy fans right now.

“I agree,probably one or two posters with multiple ID's and they are making a concerted effort to disrupt the forum with pathetic posts.”   ... and maybe many of the positive posters are just paid by the club or work in the marketing dept and work off a set script of positive things to say no matter how bad things are.

“I feel your pain.”   I feel no pain because I don’t take it all that seriously.
 
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: Colin C No.3 on August 16, 2019, 11:49:52 pm
“Just forget about promotion” did he really write that, we are two, TWO league games into a 46 game season depending on what happens with certain other clubs, may as well tell the rest of the league from 6th down not to bother either because they have no chance whatsoever of the play offs and those not in the top two give them the trophy and runners up medal already.

Think football might not be for you if up think that way, maybe life maybe not for you either, how about leaving donny rovers to us men and women with a backbone, we may not win every game but we are there to support the club (board included), manager and players that give their all and want to do their best for us, including the moaning bas**rds that would moan if you give into every wish they made complaining that they had to think of things to wish for.

Eh? You ‘talking to me...you talking to me?’
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: sha66y on August 17, 2019, 07:50:36 am
I’m saying it’s not possible to win every game 1-0

But it is possible to score one more than the opposition most of the time, if you work hard at not conceding.....


Oooooohhhh, that’s a thinker!

Yes, and we’re not conceding many but we ain’t scoring enough to score more than the other side

This seems to be obvious to everyone apart from you

Dickos!
That is very noticeable AT THE MOMENT, however we now have a striker, and a team that’s gelling with every day that passes....so let’s see what this brings rather than expecting our current form to become the norm...

Have you already opened your Xmas presents...?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: sha66y on August 17, 2019, 08:02:38 am
We haven't won a single game since we played Gainsborough in early pre-season!  No-one can contradict that.
Do we look like a team trying to get into the playoffs, I don't think so. Just give up thinking about promotion and who we do and don't get.
Just watch the matches or go shopping with the misses because there's nothing exciting either way.

Michael!
When you say “ do we look like a team trying to get into the play offs”
are you talking about right now after only 2 games in, if so I would say the play offs are a long long way away, so it’s hard to judge at the moment!

 teams like Sunderland and Peterborough ( on current form - and let’s face it you are judging Donny on current form) ...don’t look like teams trying to get in the play offs ....at the moment do you they?

At what point in the season will you stop watching the Rovers?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: roversdude on August 17, 2019, 09:33:11 am
Has he been given No 9 shirt ?
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: GazLaz on August 17, 2019, 09:56:53 am
Has he been given No 9 shirt ?

No
Title: Re: Signing: Kazaiah Sterling
Post by: roversontheup on August 17, 2019, 11:17:17 am
Brilliant post Colin C!!