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Title: Loans
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 16, 2019, 01:09:30 pm
If I am reading the regulations correctly...

You can not have more than five loanees in your matchday squad for any one game. Which means if we signed anymore loans (we currently have 5), one loan player would have to dropped from the squad.

Which probably means, barring injuries, we are not going to sign any more loan players.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:10:42 pm
We are being far too reliant on loans. We are going to be in the exact same position at the end of this season, threadbare squad.

But, this is clearly the way the club wants to play it. Short term contracts and loan signings. No long term planning whatsoever.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Michael Gibson on August 16, 2019, 01:15:42 pm
So much for investing in our young players or bringing in permanent signings, absolutely pathetic from the powers that be, where’s the money gone??? Every Penney from the marquis sale etc will be spent on the squad aswell as what was already available???? b*llocks, the fans have been sold down the river big time and yet again the board go silent!! Sack the board!!! The club is in turmoil
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:17:11 pm
So much for investing in our young players or bringing in permanent signings, absolutely pathetic from the powers that be, where’s the money gone??? Every Penney from the marquis sale etc will be spent on the squad aswell as what was already available???? b*llocks, the fans have been sold down the river big time and yet again the board go silent!! Sack the board!!! The club is in turmoil

Go away WUM
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 01:19:14 pm
So much for investing in our young players or bringing in permanent signings, absolutely pathetic from the powers that be, where’s the money gone??? Every Penney from the marquis sale etc will be spent on the squad aswell as what was already available???? b*llocks, the fans have been sold down the river big time and yet again the board go silent!! Sack the board!!! The club is in turmoil

   What a load of absolute tosh...Give your brain cell a polish..I have been critical of this loan policy but circumstances have played a part I accept that, but sack the board??? A board who give us stability and have shown continued development on and off the pitch...You really are a bread roll short of a picnic....
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Michael Gibson on August 16, 2019, 01:20:57 pm
Another short sighted clown!! Does it take another club in the country to take 4 month to sign players??? Duuuurr??? I wouldn’t mind but the club say one thing and do another.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: graingrover on August 16, 2019, 01:21:56 pm
Interviewers always ask what attracted you to Doncaster ....think about how inane that must sound to loanees ..I am waiting for one to answer ´the welcoming fans ´.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 01:28:32 pm
  Do you know what Michael sometimes I do get your points..I agreed with you on the players leaving as I also know someone who spoke to one of them who was absolutely gob smacked at what he was offered...

  But I for one accept the reality that this is Doncaster Rovers on 7000 gates which loses money.So I am content that the board provide us with the stable club that we have, and are not basket cases like Bury,Bolton and Macclesfield...

  Just who is going to cover the shortfall if the board give up???,i cant recall many Russian or Saudi millionaires thinking we are worth pumping millions into can you??? So who exactly is if you get your way???

 
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Michael Gibson on August 16, 2019, 01:31:52 pm
I get your point mate, but they say one thing and do another, they don’t want championship football otherwise with there wealth they could have a right crack at it, fair enough it’s there money but don’t say it if you can’t...

Rovers are still in league 1.
Dons in the bottom league
Belles in oblivion

How’s this club Doncaster working then?? It isn’t.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: vaya on August 16, 2019, 01:32:24 pm
So much for investing in our young players or bringing in permanent signings, absolutely pathetic from the powers that be, where’s the money gone??? Every Penney from the marquis sale etc will be spent on the squad aswell as what was already available???? b*llocks, the fans have been sold down the river big time and yet again the board go silent!! Sack the board!!! The club is in turmoil

Short of some existential crisis, the board aren't going to sack themselves. Perhaps barking up the wrong tree with that one.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: DN8ROVER on August 16, 2019, 01:34:00 pm
Wonder if the club know that they only have 13 days to claim back their PPI.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Filo on August 16, 2019, 01:36:20 pm
So much for investing in our young players or bringing in permanent signings, absolutely pathetic from the powers that be, where’s the money gone??? Every Penney from the marquis sale etc will be spent on the squad aswell as what was already available???? b*llocks, the fans have been sold down the river big time and yet again the board go silent!! Sack the board!!! The club is in turmoil

Ever thought of taking up Drama?
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: DonnyOsmond on August 16, 2019, 01:37:48 pm
I get your point mate, but they say one thing and do another, they don’t want championship football otherwise with there wealth they could have a right crack at it, fair enough it’s there money but don’t say it if you can’t...

Rovers are still in league 1.
Dons in the bottom league
Belles in oblivion

How’s this club Doncaster working then?? It isn’t.

A ball hasn't been kicked since the Belles joined Club Doncaster.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 01:38:10 pm
We are being far too reliant on loans. We are going to be in the exact same position at the end of this season, threadbare squad.

But, this is clearly the way the club wants to play it. Short term contracts and loan signings. No long term planning whatsoever.

Yeah, because it's impossible for us to use the breathing space of having loanees to sort out the permanent signings we do want in the meantime isn't it?
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:40:25 pm
We are being far too reliant on loans. We are going to be in the exact same position at the end of this season, threadbare squad.

But, this is clearly the way the club wants to play it. Short term contracts and loan signings. No long term planning whatsoever.

Yeah, because it's impossible for us to use the breathing space of having loanees to sort out the permanent signings we do want in the meantime isn't it?

You're right, it is.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 01:44:53 pm
We are being far too reliant on loans. We are going to be in the exact same position at the end of this season, threadbare squad.

But, this is clearly the way the club wants to play it. Short term contracts and loan signings. No long term planning whatsoever.

Yeah, because it's impossible for us to use the breathing space of having loanees to sort out the permanent signings we do want in the meantime isn't it?

You're right, it is.

Aye, they'll sit on their hands and do f**k all all season, right?
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:47:31 pm
We are being far too reliant on loans. We are going to be in the exact same position at the end of this season, threadbare squad.

But, this is clearly the way the club wants to play it. Short term contracts and loan signings. No long term planning whatsoever.

Yeah, because it's impossible for us to use the breathing space of having loanees to sort out the permanent signings we do want in the meantime isn't it?

You're right, it is.

Aye, they'll sit on their hands and do f**k all all season, right?

Definitely.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: IDM on August 16, 2019, 01:48:03 pm
I refer a certain poster I the response I gave to since-1969 on the Baptiste thread..
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 01:48:45 pm
We are being far too reliant on loans. We are going to be in the exact same position at the end of this season, threadbare squad.

But, this is clearly the way the club wants to play it. Short term contracts and loan signings. No long term planning whatsoever.

Yeah, because it's impossible for us to use the breathing space of having loanees to sort out the permanent signings we do want in the meantime isn't it?

You're right, it is.

Aye, they'll sit on their hands and do f**k all all season, right?

Definitely.

Thank you for confirming which orifice you're using to talk out of.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:53:35 pm
We are being far too reliant on loans. We are going to be in the exact same position at the end of this season, threadbare squad.

But, this is clearly the way the club wants to play it. Short term contracts and loan signings. No long term planning whatsoever.

Yeah, because it's impossible for us to use the breathing space of having loanees to sort out the permanent signings we do want in the meantime isn't it?

You're right, it is.

Aye, they'll sit on their hands and do f**k all all season, right?

Definitely.

Thank you for confirming which orifice you're using to talk out of.

Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 01:55:48 pm
Make stupid assumptions, get stupid questions.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:56:47 pm
Make stupid assumptions, get stupid questions.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 01:58:26 pm
Make stupid assumptions, get stupid questions.
Stupid is as stupid does.

Quite.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 01:59:33 pm
We are being far too reliant on loans. We are going to be in the exact same position at the end of this season, threadbare squad.

But, this is clearly the way the club wants to play it. Short term contracts and loan signings. No long term planning whatsoever.

Yeah, because it's impossible for us to use the breathing space of having loanees to sort out the permanent signings we do want in the meantime isn't it?

The genuine concern from my perspective is that last season’s budget was spent up on loan signings. So will we actually have money left over to look after our own interests after these short term fixes are done?
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 02:02:05 pm
We are being far too reliant on loans. We are going to be in the exact same position at the end of this season, threadbare squad.

But, this is clearly the way the club wants to play it. Short term contracts and loan signings. No long term planning whatsoever.

Yeah, because it's impossible for us to use the breathing space of having loanees to sort out the permanent signings we do want in the meantime isn't it?

The genuine concern from my perspective is that last season’s budget was spent up on loan signings. So will we actually have money left over to look after our own interests after these short term fixes are done?

We already had enough budget for loans before the money from selling Marquis was added into the budget. I want that money to be spent wisely, not just on the first player that we can sign permanently in order to 'prove' what Rovers business plan is.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 02:07:24 pm
We are being far too reliant on loans. We are going to be in the exact same position at the end of this season, threadbare squad.

But, this is clearly the way the club wants to play it. Short term contracts and loan signings. No long term planning whatsoever.

Yeah, because it's impossible for us to use the breathing space of having loanees to sort out the permanent signings we do want in the meantime isn't it?

The genuine concern from my perspective is that last season’s budget was spent up on loan signings. So will we actually have money left over to look after our own interests after these short term fixes are done?

We already had enough budget for loans before the money from selling Marquis was added into the budget. I want that money to be spent wisely, not just on the first player that we can sign permanently in order to 'prove' what Rovers business plan is.

I don’t know what the budget is or where it’s been spent. But I know we spent it last season without making many permanent acquisitions, and by relying heavily on loans that we never saw again. Ultimately other clubs benefitted for our outlay. We’re in the same division starting again, and incurring borrowing costs again.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: RoversAlias on August 16, 2019, 02:10:58 pm
Another thread filled with abject foolishness.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 02:11:37 pm
Jonathan,

We have one more loan signing than we planned for. But you have to look at the success of every club that has been promoted from LG1, every single one of them had bags of loan signings.

I get your point, but if we want the club to be promoted we have to have a mixture, we have to compete and we have to nurture youth. Loan signings are like a try before you buy scenario at times, look how may players came to us initially on loan who we then ended up buying. It does work.

Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 02:12:14 pm
We are being far too reliant on loans. We are going to be in the exact same position at the end of this season, threadbare squad.

But, this is clearly the way the club wants to play it. Short term contracts and loan signings. No long term planning whatsoever.

Yeah, because it's impossible for us to use the breathing space of having loanees to sort out the permanent signings we do want in the meantime isn't it?

The genuine concern from my perspective is that last season’s budget was spent up on loan signings. So will we actually have money left over to look after our own interests after these short term fixes are done?

We already had enough budget for loans before the money from selling Marquis was added into the budget. I want that money to be spent wisely, not just on the first player that we can sign permanently in order to 'prove' what Rovers business plan is.

I don’t know what the budget is or where it’s been spent. But I know we spent it last season without making many permanent acquisitions, and by relying heavily on loans that we never saw again. Ultimately other clubs benefitted.

I'm happy to use the loan system, as long as it brings in players we otherwise couldn't afford that add something to the team. Or, as SM says, on a try-before-you-buy so we're not committed to spending upfront. If we only have them for a season, at least it's a season we've squeezed something out of them for our benefit. It's not as if we've got nothing out of the deal.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 02:15:27 pm
Billy Sharp initially came on loan and we didn’t do too bad out of him. Going back a bit, Mike Jefferey was a loanee, Kieron Brady was another. Overall I’d say we’ve not done too bad in the loan market
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: rtid88 on August 16, 2019, 02:16:23 pm
I get your point mate, but they say one thing and do another, they don’t want championship football otherwise with there wealth they could have a right crack at it, fair enough it’s there money but don’t say it if you can’t...

Rovers are still in league 1.
Dons in the bottom league
Belles in oblivion

How’s this club Doncaster working then?? It isn’t.
The day you say anything positive about the club you support I will shave my arse....
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 16, 2019, 02:20:45 pm
3 of the loans we had last season had a massive impact and, if it wasn’t for those 3, there’s no way we would have been in the top 6. That was last season, though, and the trouble is we have to keep finding these ‘gems’ every season, which is going to be a real problem, as they don’t all turn out like world beaters. As we saw with Lewis and Smith.

It’s fingers crossed time!
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 02:22:59 pm
3 of the loans we had last season had a massive impact and, if it wasn’t for those 3, there’s no way we would have been in the top 6. That was last season, though, and the trouble is we have to keep finding these ‘gems’ every season, which is going to be a real problem, as they don’t all turn out like world beaters. As we saw with Lewis and Smith.

It’s fingers crossed time!

Yes, but we were virtually one game away from being promoted. Had we have done so there would have been a big player shake up anyway.

And, another positive, we might not have lost our manager and star striker in the process. So loans can be beneficial in lots of ways!

Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Michael Gibson on August 16, 2019, 02:26:24 pm
The day the board stop bullshitting I’ll shave my arse...so to all those that don’t like my posts, let’s have a reasonable debate and explain where the monies gone considering we had a considerable pot??? A genuine question not a trouble causing plot....I’m only stating facts because I know personally a few things what I got told of an ex player who was well respected.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Jonathan on August 16, 2019, 02:27:24 pm
Billy Sharp initially came on loan and we didn’t do too bad out of him. Going back a bit, Mike Jefferey was a loanee, Kieron Brady was another. Overall I’d say we’ve not done too bad in the loan market

Of course we’ve had some successes, and hopefully we will this season too. We had successes last season without doubt. Leeds and Barnsley have benefitted from our outlay on Wilks, Portsmouth got Downing and Liverpool will ultimately benefit from Kane. Meanwhile we only lost our temporary contribution to the wages of Jermaine Anderson, Smith and Lewis. All in all we did well and other clubs will be particularly delighted where they reaped the longer term benefit.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 16, 2019, 02:28:34 pm
The day the board stop bullshitting I’ll shave my arse...so to all those that don’t like my posts, let’s have a reasonable debate and explain where the monies gone considering we had a considerable pot??? A genuine question not a trouble causing plot....I’m only stating facts because I know personally a few things what I got told of an ex player who was well respected.

Where the money's gone?  It probably hasn't been received yet and even if it had, it'll be used running the day to day business of the club.  You're probably one of the ones who state they have no ambition and should put more money on top of the 20m+ that they get back.  Have you ever in any way thanked them for that or do you just stick to criticism?
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 02:28:41 pm
  I don't dispute that they are beneficial and reality is for clubs like ours loans are vital for us to compete for promotion..

  However you have to have some balance,we've now got a lot of talented kids from Premier clubs who haven't much experience between them.Sometimes at this level it's not just about talent it's about experience and knowing how to handle teams at this level...

   We haven't got the balance right not by a long way..
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: since-1969 on August 16, 2019, 02:34:42 pm
If I am reading the regulations correctly...

You can not have more than five loanees in your matchday squad for any one game. Which means if we signed anymore loans (we currently have 5), one loan player would have to dropped from the squad.

Which probably means, barring injuries, we are not going to sign any more loan players.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 16, 2019, 02:35:44 pm
The day the board stop bullshitting I’ll shave my arse...so to all those that don’t like my posts, let’s have a reasonable debate and explain where the monies gone considering we had a considerable pot??? A genuine question not a trouble causing plot....I’m only stating facts because I know personally a few things what I got told of an ex player who was well respected.

You are not willing to debate because of your entrenched views. If you came on here now and again and offered something more constructive then you might get more people engaging with you.

But you've done it again, referring to 'facts' that are hearsay. You've made your stance quite clear on numerous occasions, you don't have to repeat it.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: since-1969 on August 16, 2019, 02:38:31 pm
If I am reading the regulations correctly...

You can not have more than five loanees in your matchday squad for any one game. Which means if we signed anymore loans (we currently have 5), one loan player would have to dropped from the squad.

Which probably means, barring injuries, we are not going to sign any more loan players.
Says who ? Blackpool got promoted to the PL having used over 20 . So it’s a team not many of us thought we’d see so soon . D M  could be another Barry Fry who  got sacked at  Birmingham having signed 46 players in his stay . .
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 02:43:27 pm
The day the board stop bullshitting I’ll shave my arse...so to all those that don’t like my posts, let’s have a reasonable debate and explain where the monies gone considering we had a considerable pot??? A genuine question not a trouble causing plot....I’m only stating facts because I know personally a few things what I got told of an ex player who was well respected.

A 'reasonable debate'...with you? :lol:
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Campsall rover on August 16, 2019, 02:49:24 pm
So much for investing in our young players or bringing in permanent signings, absolutely pathetic from the powers that be, where’s the money gone??? Every Penney from the marquis sale etc will be spent on the squad aswell as what was already available???? b*llocks, the fans have been sold down the river big time and yet again the board go silent!! Sack the board!!! The club is in turmoil
Do one will you.
You are a total disgrace on this forum and are now embarrassing yourself.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: johnny rovers on August 16, 2019, 02:51:01 pm
but if we want the club to be promoted we have to have a mixture,



"Fans Director of less than 100 members of the VSC" even you seriously cannot think we are capable of achieving promotion this time around and being capable of "having fun" in the Championship!
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: bpoolrover on August 16, 2019, 03:11:48 pm
I don’t think loans are a problem used right my worry is there is barely any 1st team football between them,it’s certainly a worry where the goals will come from but you never no!
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Michael Gibson on August 16, 2019, 03:13:50 pm
Why do people like campsall and wigley get personal when asked for a genuine discussion??? Is it because they know I’m right?? I think so...
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 03:16:10 pm
Why do people like campsall and wigley get personal when asked for a genuine discussion??? Is it because they know I’m right?? I think so...

Because personal abuse is all their intellect will stretch too.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 03:17:41 pm
Why do people like campsall and wigley get personal when asked for a genuine discussion??? Is it because they know I’m right?? I think so...

Because I was replying to your post - no-one else's so of course it's personal.

And I was pointing out that if you think this

Quote
The day the board stop bullshitting I’ll shave my arse...so to all those that don’t like my posts, let’s have a reasonable debate and explain where the monies gone considering we had a considerable pot??? A genuine question not a trouble causing plot....I’m only stating facts because I know personally a few things what I got told of an ex player who was well respected.

Is an example of a 'reasonable debate', then it is indeed worthy of a :lol:
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 03:18:41 pm
Why do people like campsall and wigley get personal when asked for a genuine discussion??? Is it because they know I’m right?? I think so...

Because personal abuse is all their intellect will stretch too.

Isn't that personal abuse?
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 03:19:07 pm
Why do people like campsall and wigley get personal when asked for a genuine discussion??? Is it because they know I’m right?? I think so...

Because personal abuse is all their intellect will stretch too.

Isn't that personal abuse?

Possibly.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 03:19:20 pm
but if we want the club to be promoted we have to have a mixture,



"Fans Director of less than 100 members of the VSC" even you seriously cannot think we are capable of achieving promotion this time around and being capable of "having fun" in the Championship!

I don't know what your post means.

I'm also a director of the Football Supporters Association with a membership in excess of 600,000, how is that relevant to this subject?
 
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: sha66y on August 16, 2019, 03:22:53 pm
I got to the bottom of this thread and completely forgot what it was about!

I guess Gibbo and Red are stirring up the hornets nest......yet again lol
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 03:24:14 pm
Why do people like campsall and wigley get personal when asked for a genuine discussion??? Is it because they know I’m right?? I think so...

Because personal abuse is all their intellect will stretch too.

Isn't that personal abuse?

Possibly.

Perhaps your own intellect doesn't stretch far enough to tell. :silly:
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Colin C No.3 on August 16, 2019, 03:26:17 pm
So much for investing in our young players or bringing in permanent signings, absolutely pathetic from the powers that be, where’s the money gone??? Every Penney from the marquis sale etc will be spent on the squad aswell as what was already available???? b*llocks, the fans have been sold down the river big time and yet again the board go silent!! Sack the board!!! The club is in turmoil

It’s “Every penny...” not “Every Penney...”.

In your slavering rant Dave Penney has obviously found his way into the fog that swims around inside that head of yours.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: bpoolrover on August 16, 2019, 03:31:57 pm
While Micheal has gone to far in saying sacknthe board it’s still clear to see why some people are a bit miffed, it’s gone from top 2 to let’s be honest with the squad as it is now it could be a up hill struggle, we have signed Ennis and sterling who yes on paper look good but with little or no experience, Gomes who really needs more time to settle in and should prob be with development team, Taylor very good player and sheaf who I think will be steady, out of them can you really see where the goals of wilks marquis Kane Rowe will come from?
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: sha66y on August 16, 2019, 03:35:04 pm
The day the board stop bullshitting I’ll shave my arse...so to all those that don’t like my posts, let’s have a reasonable debate and explain where the monies gone considering we had a considerable pot??? A genuine question not a trouble causing plot....I’m only stating facts because I know personally a few things what I got told of an ex player who was well respected.

For the record;

I like your posts , I would engage you with witty ripostes and attempt to unravel what your thoughts truly are,

Do you actually like Doncaster Rovers?

Why put yourself through the pain of watching them ?

Do you feel aggrieved that the club hasn’t met your expectation ?

Are you genuinely worried about the missing money and wonder where it is?

If you are a season ticket holder , what are you expecting for your financial commitment ?

What would make you happiest ( I don’t mean a hug) because you do seem very angry for a young man ?

Come on Michael.....let’s engage

Title: Re: Loans
Post by: sha66y on August 16, 2019, 03:45:22 pm
While Micheal has gone to far in saying sacknthe board it’s still clear to see why some people are a bit miffed, it’s gone from top 2 to let’s be honest with the squad as it is now it could be a up hill struggle, we have signed Ennis and sterling who yes on paper look good but with little or no experience, Gomes who really needs more time to settle in and should prob be with development team, Taylor very good player and sheaf who I think will be steady, out of them can you really see where the goals of wilks marquis Kane Rowe will come from?

When you say “ it’s clear to see why some people are a bit miffed”
By “some” do you mean the 5-6 that write the same thing?
When you say “it’s clear”, are you aware that, that’s subjective?
When you say “ some people” ...do you mean fans of Doncaster Rovers or people who are ill informed and just a bit frustrated?
When you say “ a bit miffed”  do you mean a bit, or a lot?

And in answer to your last question”

Sadlier, Ennis , Sterling , and I’d say one or two will manage to get on the score sheet....
We may not score as many, but you only need one more than the opposition to win
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: bpoolrover on August 16, 2019, 03:48:18 pm
No mate just by speaking to people, or look on other social media sites not just this one, look on twitter or fb and I think you will find more than 5 or 6 Ill informed people, can you honestly say you think the team we have now is anywhere near as good as last season at the minute?
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 16, 2019, 03:57:59 pm
Another way to look at it is by asking yourself - how many of our first 11 would get in last season’s first 11. The four obvious ones are Lawlor, Anderson, Whiteman and Copps. After those, you could add Sadlier, as he played a few games last season.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 04:00:33 pm
Another way to look at it is by asking yourself - how many of our first 11 would get in last season’s first 11. The four obvious ones are Lawlor, Anderson, Whiteman and Copps. After those, you could add Sadlier, as he played a few games last season.

And you've decided this after a couple of games?

I would suggest both full backs are more than good enough to start in last seasons first 11.



Title: Re: Loans
Post by: sha66y on August 16, 2019, 04:03:05 pm
No mate just by speaking to people, or look on other social media sites not just this one, look on twitter or fb and I think you will find more than 5 or 6 Ill informed people, can you honestly say you think the team we have now is anywhere near as good as last season at the minute?

Ok , so interacting with more than 5-6 like-minded people , who use social media to vent their spleens, is more informative than actually standing back and assessing the situation yourself from ground zero?

and do these many many disaffected few ever think to make a proper stance against this vile club that is no more than a viper, by refusing to attend games?...I would gladly support in any way I can this group of modern day dissidents, perhaps I could knock up a crazy slogan to be added to the placards?....something like “ sack the bored” and “ werz r millyans gon”

And to answer your last question with a degree of honesty....
I am a supporter of Doncaster Rovers, irrespective of where we are in any league...this is my team, thick and thin....
I look at the players we have brought in and think “ wow” this could be one hell of a rollercoaster ride, lots of highs lots of lows, and lots of banter...

Ya see I can’t change what’s in front of me, but I can support it with a vengeance,
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: sha66y on August 16, 2019, 04:06:54 pm
Another way to look at it is by asking yourself - how many of our first 11 would get in last season’s first 11. The four obvious ones are Lawlor, Anderson, Whiteman and Copps. After those, you could add Sadlier, as he played a few games last season.

How is any comparison to last years team relevant?
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: dickos1 on August 16, 2019, 04:10:20 pm
Why isn’t it relevant?
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: bpoolrover on August 16, 2019, 04:14:44 pm
It’s good mate that you support the club no matter what happens and many of the people who are having a moan will do the same thing
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: drfc1951 on August 16, 2019, 04:16:19 pm
I get your point mate, but they say one thing and do another, they don’t want championship football otherwise with there wealth they could have a right crack at it, fair enough it’s there money but don’t say it if you can’t...

Rovers are still in league 1.
Dons in the bottom league
Belles in oblivion

How’s this club Doncaster working then?? It isn’t.
I have said to you before, why don't you and a few others on here and form a consortium and buy the club.You said before it would be an attractive opportunity.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Al4475 on August 16, 2019, 04:58:58 pm
Either that or find a prospective chairman, a bunch of invisible hedge-funders, bankrupt agents, barred barristers and so on and so forth to pump dodgy money in to the club - money which isn't even there!

Sounds like a good way to go!

That'll be a roaring success without a doubt!

Bring it on!
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 16, 2019, 05:00:50 pm
Either that or find a prospective chairman, a bunch of invisible hedge-funders, bankrupt agents, barred barristers and so on and so forth to pump dodgy money in to the club - money which isn't even there!

Sounds like a good way to go!

Bring it on!

Isn’t that a repeat Al?
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Al4475 on August 16, 2019, 05:02:00 pm
Dunno what you mean DVR - just an idea that I thought I'd chuck into the air!


If an unsuspecting pop star is added to the equation - who knows what delights that could yield!

It is after all crazy season and anything seems to be doable!
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: bpoolrover on August 16, 2019, 05:06:29 pm
Most people are not wanting money pumped in they would like to see measured progress on the pitch, unfortunately with gm leaving that has not being possible yet, half the problem has been people from the club saying we’re close to signing players with as good records as marquis,even when gm left we were told about these exciting players that were still on the table, marquis leaves and still we have not really replaced him with someone with any experience, that’s why people are frustrated there hopes get raised and nothing much materialised,hence the frustration
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: bpoolrover on August 16, 2019, 05:07:34 pm
Dunno what you mean DVR - just an idea that I thought I'd chuck into the air!


If an unsuspecting pop star is added to the equation - who knows what delights that could yield!

It is after all crazy season and anything seems to be doable!
1 person has said sack the board do you not think your post is a over reaction making you just as bad
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Al4475 on August 16, 2019, 05:11:31 pm
Fully appreciate that b'pool.

And maybe so.

Annoys me however that since the current board got full control, there has always been a faction of supporters who have been against them from day one and use any thread going to have a dig.

I simply don't fully comprehend how folk can still dig at the board after the last few years when it's clear they are keeping the club going!

Baffles me that's all.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: NickDRFC on August 16, 2019, 05:18:32 pm
No mate just by speaking to people, or look on other social media sites not just this one, look on twitter or fb and I think you will find more than 5 or 6 Ill informed people, can you honestly say you think the team we have now is anywhere near as good as last season at the minute?

Ok , so interacting with more than 5-6 like-minded people , who use social media to vent their spleens, is more informative than actually standing back and assessing the situation yourself from ground zero?

and do these many many disaffected few ever think to make a proper stance against this vile club that is no more than a viper, by refusing to attend games?...I would gladly support in any way I can this group of modern day dissidents, perhaps I could knock up a crazy slogan to be added to the placards?....something like “ sack the bored” and “ werz r millyans gon”

And to answer your last question with a degree of honesty....
I am a supporter of Doncaster Rovers, irrespective of where we are in any league...this is my team, thick and thin....
I look at the players we have brought in and think “ wow” this could be one hell of a rollercoaster ride, lots of highs lots of lows, and lots of banter...

Ya see I can’t change what’s in front of me, but I can support it with a vengeance,

“I can support it with a vengeance”

It’s a football club not a Die Hard film 😂
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: bpoolrover on August 16, 2019, 05:20:04 pm
I agree mate but mainly it’s michael and I think enough people are having a pop at him now to be honest, for me the board are doing a good job and this is not there doing you can’t help managers and players leaving but still as a supporter that does not always come into people’s thinking
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: johnny rovers on August 16, 2019, 05:22:06 pm
Fully appreciate that b'pool.

And maybe so.

Annoys me however that since the current board got full control, there has always been a faction of supporters who have been against them from day one and use any thread going to have a dig.

I simply don't fully comprehend how folk can still dig at the board after the last few years when it's clear they are keeping the club going!

Baffles me that's all.

Most certainly not against our owners, they have and are continuing to b outstanding, but the strategy that our CEO on footballing matters needs questioning. He obviously the Excel's on no footballing matters But his stewardship of footballing matters needs to be questioned. Where we were on may 16th to July 31st solely rests on him. He gives all  the footballing responsibility to the manager and thisneeds reviewed.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: johnny rovers on August 16, 2019, 05:24:41 pm
Fully appreciate that b'pool.

And maybe so.

Annoys me however that since the current board got full control, there has always been a faction of supporters who have been against them from day one and use any thread going to have a dig.

I simply don't fully comprehend how folk can still dig at the board after the last few years when it's clear they are keeping the club going!

Baffles me that's all.

Most certainly not against our owners, they have and are continuing to be outstanding, but the strategy that our CEO on footballing matters needs questioning. He obviously exceles on no footballing matters but his stewardship of footballing matters needs to be questioned. Where we were on may 16th to July 31st solely rests on him. He gives all  the footballing responsibility to the manager and this needs reviewed.
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: graingrover on August 16, 2019, 05:27:39 pm
Some clubs are saved by fans this forum is killing the club .
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: john_donc857 on August 16, 2019, 05:30:16 pm
Sack him and bring his understudy back from Lincoln ( Liam Scully) he’s doing a much better job their
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2019, 05:32:22 pm
Fully appreciate that b'pool.

And maybe so.

Annoys me however that since the current board got full control, there has always been a faction of supporters who have been against them from day one and use any thread going to have a dig.

I simply don't fully comprehend how folk can still dig at the board after the last few years when it's clear they are keeping the club going!

Baffles me that's all.

Most certainly not against our owners, they have and are continuing to be outstanding, but the strategy that our CEO on footballing matters needs questioning. He obviously exceles on no footballing matters but his stewardship of footballing matters needs to be questioned. Where we were on may 16th to July 31st solely rests on him. He gives all  the footballing responsibility to the manager and this needs reviewed.

First you complain about the CEO's football strategy and then in the next breath you say he gives all footballing responsibility to the manager..?
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: rtid88 on August 16, 2019, 05:36:51 pm
Some clubs are saved by fans this forum is killing the club .
Unfortunately it's the generation we live in, where by people expect things to be presented to them... If people on here who are genuine supporters actually think DM and the board have not been trying to sign players then they are completely deluded... Once we get past preseason it's not easy to just go out and sign players... I have no doubt that we have been close on several occasions to signing players as we have been told and then the players agents have demanded to much as their fee or the player has demanded too much as a signing on fee... Personally I hope we are sticking to our principles as we always have and not been suckered into deals like nearly every club in the county are being...
I'd rather follow a club with principles, who have a family and community ethos and who genuinely do the best for their fans... Imo that's what we have and more of us should appreciate that...
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: redarmi66 on August 16, 2019, 05:44:15 pm
Some clubs are saved by fans this forum is killing the club .
Whilst i echo the sentiment and obvious frustration with some of the absolute drival posted on this forum by the misinformed and uneducated, i dont actually think it has any real influence on what the board or the club think or do. (Thank God). This forum is just a narrow view . Nothing more. I genuinely believe most fans are relieved we have a board that are proven reliable sustainable and ensure we have a team to watch each week. Some on here think they are entitled to more than that. Not so. Unless you are putting a few million in of course!
Title: Re: Loans
Post by: johnny rovers on August 16, 2019, 05:48:52 pm
Some clubs are saved by fans this forum is killing the club .
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Some clubs are saved by fans this forum is killing the club .

I disagree entirely. We have approx 8000 wanting to turn up for level three football in a fine stadium. It's never 🐝 better