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Title: Barton
Post by: DRFC_TID_93 on October 09, 2019, 07:10:36 pm
Pleaded not guilty today. How does he think he'll get away with it? Surely there will be cameras that caught the whole thing. And the state of Stendel afterwards
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: DRNaith on October 09, 2019, 07:26:56 pm
Pleaded not guilty today. How does he think he'll get away with it? Surely there will be cameras that caught the whole thing. And the state of Stendel afterwards

He'll have a very expensive legal team with a plethora of ways to keep him out of prison
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: roversam on October 09, 2019, 07:39:08 pm
If OJ Simpson could get away with murder I'm sure thug Barton can get away with  assault.
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: since-1969 on October 09, 2019, 08:08:26 pm
If OJ Simpson could get away with murder I'm sure thug Barton can get away with  assault.
OJ was innocent 😇 
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: drfcsteve on October 09, 2019, 09:41:56 pm
The US legal system is a lot different to ours. Barton won't get away with it.
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: jonnydog on October 09, 2019, 10:29:25 pm
If the glove doesn’t fit...
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: Pancho Regan on October 10, 2019, 10:41:21 am
Reading the press reports from yesterday, the nature of the alleged assault is different to that which I recall from the time of the incident.
I thought I'd read that Barton was alleged to have punched or head-butted Stendel in the face?
The reports now say he is alleged to have pushed Stendel from behind, causing him to bash his face into the metal surround of the tunnel.
Maybe I'm mis-remembering the initial reports.

But I can see now how Barton might think he can wriggle his way out of this with the help of a good lawyer.
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: RedRover45 on October 10, 2019, 01:32:32 pm
Reading the press reports from yesterday, the nature of the alleged assault is different to that which I recall from the time of the incident.
I thought I'd read that Barton was alleged to have punched or head-butted Stendel in the face?
The reports now say he is alleged to have pushed Stendel from behind, causing him to bash his face into the metal surround of the tunnel.
Maybe I'm mis-remembering the initial reports.

But I can see now how Barton might think he can wriggle his way out of this with the help of a good lawyer.

I think you're right, I remember it being widely reported as a head butt
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: Donnywolf on October 10, 2019, 02:46:51 pm
Reply ~10 from Tyke who is ... well yeah a Tyke !
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=269913.0 (https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=269913.0)

Also dont forget there was the Tweet from Barnsley player that was taking down pretty quickly - but it only said Stendel had blood pouring from his mouth / face and not how that was caused
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: GazLaz on October 10, 2019, 03:22:02 pm
Reading the press reports from yesterday, the nature of the alleged assault is different to that which I recall from the time of the incident.
I thought I'd read that Barton was alleged to have punched or head-butted Stendel in the face?
The reports now say he is alleged to have pushed Stendel from behind, causing him to bash his face into the metal surround of the tunnel.
Maybe I'm mis-remembering the initial reports.

But I can see now how Barton might think he can wriggle his way out of this with the help of a good lawyer.

I think you're right, I remember it being widely reported as a head butt

Things were obviously misreported at the time.
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on October 10, 2019, 04:23:52 pm
If OJ Simpson could get away with murder I'm sure thug Barton can get away with  assault.
OJ was innocent 😇 

Why did he lose the civil case against him then..?
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: Drover on October 10, 2019, 04:42:33 pm
If OJ Simpson could get away with murder I'm sure thug Barton can get away with  assault.
OJ was innocent 😇 

Why did he lose the civil case against him then..?

Probably Nothing more than allowing the victims family compensation,because IF OJ did'nt do it,he must know who did and wont say.

I watched a very interesting documentary,in which the presenter made a very convincing case to claim,OJ's son killed them and OJ was prepared to take the rap to protect him.
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: Donnywolf on October 10, 2019, 05:19:18 pm
If OJ Simpson could get away with murder I'm sure thug Barton can get away with  assault.
OJ was innocent 😇 

Why did he lose the civil case against him then..?

Probably Nothing more than allowing the victims family compensation,because IF OJ did'nt do it,he must know who did and wont say.

I watched a very interesting documentary,in which the presenter made a very convincing case to claim,OJ's son killed them and OJ was prepared to take the rap to protect him.

....also different criteria apply for burden of proof

Beyond reasonable doubt for the Criminal Trial v Balance of Probability for a Civil Case - usually does it
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: deebee on October 10, 2019, 06:48:37 pm
Dean Saunders?
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on October 10, 2019, 07:18:30 pm
Dean Saunders?

the "current"   - "Rangers"-"manager" ................................   "teflon"   we all "allegedly" "forget about that one"
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: RedJ on October 10, 2019, 07:36:19 pm
Dean Saunders?

the "current"   - "Rangers"-"manager" ................................   "teflon"   we all "allegedly" "forget about that one"
What the actual f**k does this even mean?
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on October 10, 2019, 07:41:39 pm
If OJ Simpson could get away with murder I'm sure thug Barton can get away with  assault.
OJ was innocent 😇 

Why did he lose the civil case against him then..?

Probably Nothing more than allowing the victims family compensation,because IF OJ did'nt do it,he must know who did and wont say.

I watched a very interesting documentary,in which the presenter made a very convincing case to claim,OJ's son killed them and OJ was prepared to take the rap to protect him.

If he was taking the rap to protect someone else he'd have pled guilty, surely?
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on October 10, 2019, 09:41:30 pm
Dean Saunders?

the "current"   - "Rangers"-"manager" ................................   "teflon"   we all "allegedly" "forget about that one"
What the actual f**k does this even mean?
you must remember to take your medicine and not bring any "alleged" "personal problems" to the site

in  fact it seems we have "double bubble here"

2009
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=steven+gerard+punches

and a few years later

https://www.express.co.uk/videos/4096859459001/Steven-Gerrard-punched-man-like-a-boxer-in-bar-brawl-as-court-sees-CCTV

teflon
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: Drover on October 11, 2019, 12:06:01 am
If OJ Simpson could get away with murder I'm sure thug Barton can get away with  assault.
OJ was innocent 😇 

Why did he lose the civil case against him then..?

Probably Nothing more than allowing the victims family compensation,because IF OJ did'nt do it,he must know who did and wont say.

I watched a very interesting documentary,in which the presenter made a very convincing case to claim,OJ's son killed them and OJ was prepared to take the rap to protect him.

If he was taking the rap to protect someone else he'd have pled guilty, surely?

No,the documentary maker(not me),believes OJ knew his son had done it,but the authorities believed OJ done it,OJ could have given evidence to clear his name,but refused to because it would convict his son of it.So OJ went through it all prepared to take the rap for it,if they found him guilty.He also says,thats why there was very little,if none evidence to prove without doubt OJ did it,because he did'nt.It was presented very convincingly,but It is television and I realise it can powerful tool.I have no idea of the truth,but it was a very intriguing theory.
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: since-1969 on October 11, 2019, 06:54:09 am
So Barton IS innocent 😇
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: Draytonian III on October 11, 2019, 10:48:00 am
He’s just won manager of the month award !!
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: idler on October 11, 2019, 11:09:05 am
He’s just won manager of the month award !!
Who did he beat up into second place?🙁
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on October 11, 2019, 11:35:15 am
He’s just won manager of the month award !!
Who did he beat up into second place?🙁

sometimes less is more

a more appropriate post would have been

"Who did he beat into second place?"

Title: Re: Barton
Post by: idler on October 11, 2019, 01:47:16 pm
Beat up might have more significance to posters of a similar age to me CLH.
Baby boomers that is.🙂
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: phil old leake on October 11, 2019, 07:18:43 pm
I’m no big Barton fan but it does annoy me that some people have taken it as a given he’s guilty
I don’t suppose that those people have actually considered he just may be innocent
Before I’m shot down in flames I’M NOT saying he’s an angel but there is always 2 sides to every story.   
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: DRFC_TID_93 on October 11, 2019, 08:07:35 pm
I’m no big Barton fan but it does annoy me that some people have taken it as a given he’s guilty
I don’t suppose that those people have actually considered he just may be innocent
Before I’m shot down in flames I’M NOT saying he’s an angel but there is always 2 sides to every story.   

Okay, so give me an example of why he'd be permitted to bloody Stendels face and try to run off? Just in the interest of healthy debate
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: the vicar on October 11, 2019, 09:40:01 pm
If he Barton was innocent then why did his people cover him from the cameras and usher him away and almost run someone over doing so. Find him guilty and if no jail sentence then give him community service to be affected on a match day
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: phil old leake on October 12, 2019, 09:03:40 am
As I said in my thread.  I’m not saying he didn’t do it I’m just asking the question
Maybe someone can point me in the direction of a picture of Stengel injured
I haven’t seen one
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: IDM on October 12, 2019, 09:21:26 am
Why would you have? Why would any evidence be in the public domain.?

Just because you haven’t seen evidence, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen..

Why not let the courts do their job.?
Title: Re: Barton
Post by: phil old leake on October 12, 2019, 08:54:09 pm
Agreed and just because people don’t like him doesn’t mean he’s guilty
If he is I hope he goes to prison but let’s be objective