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Title: We need a striker
Post by: Retdon1 on October 12, 2019, 04:27:17 pm
Exactly that. We won’t be successful until we bring in a half decent striker. Our build up play is good but same as the Portsmouth game and many others, we have no one to finish the opportunity’s off. The new lad Thomas looks average at best.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: the vicar on October 12, 2019, 04:29:06 pm
We have since John went
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: dknward2 on October 12, 2019, 04:29:21 pm
Or play a formation that doesn't leave 6 at the back and a loan striker up front
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Retdon1 on October 12, 2019, 04:36:59 pm
We’re frustrating to watch. We play great football and create lots of chances but have no one in and around the box to finish them off
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: johnny rovers on October 12, 2019, 04:41:03 pm
Not bringing a striker in of our own has bordered on gross misconduct.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 12, 2019, 04:43:19 pm
Not bringing a striker in of our own has bordered on gross misconduct.

A lot on here reckon we don't need one.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Copps is Magic on October 12, 2019, 04:48:17 pm
There's nothing we can do until January. Panicking is going to get you the likes of Thomas, a big lump of nothingness released by Solihull Moors. Ennis is promising but not close to the standard of Wilks or Marquis last season.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 12, 2019, 04:50:16 pm
There's nothing we can do until January. Panicking is going to get you the likes of Thomas, a big lump of nothingness released by Solihull Moors. Ennis is promising but not close to the standard of Wilks or Marquis last season.

There was no excuse not bringing in one in before the window closed. If you believe the board, we have the funds. Other teams have signed players, so why didn't we?
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: vaya on October 12, 2019, 04:53:39 pm
There's nothing we can do until January. Panicking is going to get you the likes of Thomas, a big lump of nothingness released by Solihull Moors. Ennis is promising but not close to the standard of Wilks or Marquis last season.

There was no excuse not bringing in one in before the window closed. If you believe the board, we have the funds. Other teams have signed players, so why didn't we?
.

Can't you ask your source?
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: vaya on October 12, 2019, 04:57:04 pm
There's nothing we can do until January. Panicking is going to get you the likes of Thomas, a big lump of nothingness released by Solihull Moors. Ennis is promising but not close to the standard of Wilks or Marquis last season.

There was no excuse not bringing in one in before the window closed. If you believe the board, we have the funds. Other teams have signed players, so why didn't we?
.

Can't you ask your source?

Can you f**k off?

Genuine question. Well done for biting my head off though.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 12, 2019, 04:58:34 pm
There's nothing we can do until January. Panicking is going to get you the likes of Thomas, a big lump of nothingness released by Solihull Moors. Ennis is promising but not close to the standard of Wilks or Marquis last season.

There was no excuse not bringing in one in before the window closed. If you believe the board, we have the funds. Other teams have signed players, so why didn't we?
.

Can't you ask your source?

Can you f**k off?

Genuine question. Well done for biting my head off though.

It was though was it? It was a dig.

My post before the meet the owners event explained the strategy the club had decided to adopt. And it's showing now that it isn't going to work.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: colincramb on October 12, 2019, 04:58:50 pm
The new lad Thomas looks ‘average at best’ because that’s exactly what he is; a non league striker leading the line.

Very poor today by the sounds of it and another tough one next week. Just don’t know where the goals are going to come from
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Padge_DRFC on October 12, 2019, 04:59:12 pm
We'll do enough to stay up. The board will have to accept that with this squad/wage structure. Anything extra Darren Moore will have done a top job.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: colincramb on October 12, 2019, 05:01:04 pm
We'll do enough to stay up. The board will have to accept that with this squad/wage structure. Anything extra Darren Moore will have done a top job.

We shouldn’t have to accept it though. With the crowds we are getting we should be finishing in the top half
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: dickos1 on October 12, 2019, 05:01:07 pm
Not just the striker we needed
The lack of incoming signings full stop this year has been diabolical

So many good players have left and not been replaced.
If we don’t recruit well in January serious questions need to be asked
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: 5 on Tour on October 12, 2019, 05:01:48 pm
We are going to drop off massively over the course of an entire season relying on midfield to score most/all of our goals. Of course a striker is going to score a few if he plays most of the games in a season but not one of the ones at the club currently are going to lead the line and push us forward.

On a bad day you create a few chances and you need them to be put away. If we create 26 chances(like last week) we are still not scoring enough. Football is a relatively simple game - put the ball in the net more than the opposition. We can’t do that at the moment. We are at risk of turning a good start and, usually, good football into a mid table season because we lack a striker.

As for the situation for next season god help us. Based on current contract situations we don’t even have enough to field a team. I don’t mind that as a one off but it’s every season now. Something isn’t sitting right about it all.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 12, 2019, 05:01:57 pm
We'll do enough to stay up. The board will have to accept that with this squad/wage structure. Anything extra Darren Moore will have done a top job.

We shouldn’t have to accept it though. With the crowds we are getting we should be finishing in the top half

The crowds are manufactured though, in reality they are a lot less.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: glosterred on October 12, 2019, 05:03:03 pm
Oxford have kept 5 clean sheets in 6, I suspect the other 4 teams that didn’t score might need strikers also


COYR
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: vaya on October 12, 2019, 05:03:42 pm
There's nothing we can do until January. Panicking is going to get you the likes of Thomas, a big lump of nothingness released by Solihull Moors. Ennis is promising but not close to the standard of Wilks or Marquis last season.

There was no excuse not bringing in one in before the window closed. If you believe the board, we have the funds. Other teams have signed players, so why didn't we?
.

Can't you ask your source?

Can you f**k off?

Genuine question. Well done for biting my head off though.

It was though was it? It was a dig.

My post before the meet the owners event explained the strategy the club had decided to adopt. And it's showing now that it isn't going to work.

Apologies. You obviously know more than me what I'm thinking.

Any idea where I've left my keys?
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 12, 2019, 05:03:55 pm
Oxford have kept 5 clean sheets in 6, I suspect the other 4 teams that didn’t score might need strikers also


COYR

So we don't need a striker?
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: dickos1 on October 12, 2019, 05:09:39 pm
Oxford have kept 5 clean sheets in 6, I suspect the other 4 teams that didn’t score might need strikers also


COYR

Those other sides probably haven’t got strikers that haven’t mustered more than a couple of goals all season though
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 12, 2019, 05:13:25 pm
Last 6 league games, 4 goals, one from a defender, one from a defensive midfielder, one from Coppinger & one from a makeshift striker, don't worry though we don't need a striker, not to mention the players we lost during the summer. There will be questions why the attendances are dropping soon. Look at the lad Henderson at a poor side like Rochdale, even he is knocking them in. Really frustrating.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Copps is Magic on October 12, 2019, 05:15:20 pm
We've now got the joint 5th worst goal scoring record in the league. We've scored the same amount of goals as Southend.

The issue isn't just goal-scoring however, its the whole balance of the team. Win, lose, or draw its been painfully clear all season there is no balance to the team. Ennis is a hard worker and an opportunist but a frontman? Not so far. Our sheer lack of depth in that position means he has the  responsibility of the whole team on his shoulders, when he's just a young lad who should be learning his trade.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 12, 2019, 05:20:39 pm
Last weekend we had plenty of chances to win the game without a striker.. the players we have got, good players who can hit the target, didn’t..

As for today I didn’t go but it looks like we were well beat.

Of course we need to play with a striker or two.

Will it be different when Ennis starts.?

Will Sterling do a job when fit.?

Did anyone not read the DFP website this week when DM says we are a work in progress.??

The childish remarks on this thread are not exactly productive or supportive either..
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 12, 2019, 05:22:18 pm
Last weekend we had plenty of chances to win the game without a striker.. the players we have got, good players who can hit the target, didn’t..

As for today I didn’t go but it looks like we were well beat.

Of course we need to play with a striker or two.

Will it be different when Ennis starts.?

Will Sterling do a job when fit.?

Did anyone not read the DFP website this week when DM says we are a work in progress.??

The childish remarks on this thread are not exactly productive or supportive either..

A work in progress. 80 percent of these players won't be here next season, so what's the point?
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: dickos1 on October 12, 2019, 05:22:39 pm
The point we had plenty of chances and didn’t score emphasises the point we need a striker not opposes the point
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: mjg on October 12, 2019, 05:24:01 pm
If you pay peanuts you get monkeys
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: sheffield exile1 on October 12, 2019, 05:24:15 pm
Now there was a post on here questioning whether we needed a striker as VA was training with us and we needed a decision. Can't remember if that ended well ?
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 12, 2019, 05:24:59 pm
Last weekend we had plenty of chances to win the game without a striker.. the players we have got, good players who can hit the target, didn’t..

As for today I didn’t go but it looks like we were well beat.

Of course we need to play with a striker or two.

Will it be different when Ennis starts.?

Will Sterling do a job when fit.?

Did anyone not read the DFP website this week when DM says we are a work in progress.??

The childish remarks on this thread are not exactly productive or supportive either..

A work in progress. 80 percent of these players won't be here next season, so what's the point?

You know our squad for next season.?

If you don’t think there’s a point, then leave..
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 12, 2019, 05:26:20 pm
Last weekend we had plenty of chances to win the game without a striker.. the players we have got, good players who can hit the target, didn’t..

As for today I didn’t go but it looks like we were well beat.

Of course we need to play with a striker or two.

Will it be different when Ennis starts.?

Will Sterling do a job when fit.?

Did anyone not read the DFP website this week when DM says we are a work in progress.??

The childish remarks on this thread are not exactly productive or supportive either..

A work in progress. 80 percent of these players won't be here next season, so what's the point?

You know our squad for next season.?

If you don’t think there’s a point, then leave..

3 players from today's team have contracts beyond this season. The evidence is there in terms of how we go about our transfer and contract business.

Keep burying your head in the sand.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: dickos1 on October 12, 2019, 05:27:19 pm
Rotherham have given their players until next week to decide on their contracts

We haven’t even offered them yet
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 12, 2019, 05:27:41 pm
The point we had plenty of chances and didn’t score emphasises the point we need a striker not opposes the point

Vs Portsmouth..

May hit the bar, cracking shot.. what difference would having a striker have made.?

Same with Whiteman..

Whiteman missed one or two as did Taylor.

On another day those same players score 2-3 goals with an identical performance.

Yes we would be better with a striker and playing to his strengths but last weekend was different..
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 12, 2019, 05:28:44 pm
So which of you is party to contract discussions at the club.?

Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 12, 2019, 05:29:06 pm
Rotherham have given their players until next week to decide on their contracts

We haven’t even offered them yet

No chance of us doing that. We won't even give them a thoufht until the last few weeks of the season.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 12, 2019, 05:31:05 pm
Rotherham have given their players until next week to decide on their contracts

We haven’t even offered them yet

And you know this for certain how.?

Even if we haven’t, don’t you think DM has he right as a new manager to review the squad in order to drive contract renewals.?

I really hate the I want it now attitude that prevails.  Not aimed at anyone particularly.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 12, 2019, 05:32:45 pm
Rotherham have given their players until next week to decide on their contracts

We haven’t even offered them yet

No chance of us doing that. We won't even give them a thoufht until the last few weeks of the season.

Care to prove that.?

With facts not just opinion..
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: sheffield exile1 on October 12, 2019, 05:33:12 pm
When we did well we had  Peter Kitchen Colin Cramb Mike Jeffrey Barnes Heffernan Fortune- West and of course Billy... Yes the midfield are doing wonders but not sustainable long term. Teams need strikers simple. Doesn't have to be Harry Kane but as has been said this team is currently buzzing in terms of creativity. Imagine someone at the cutting edge of half of those chances?
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 12, 2019, 05:35:49 pm
Don’t forget we have had bad lock with injuries to Ennis and to Sterling.

I am not at all saying that they will prove to be the ideal strikers we need, but like all strikers they need to get into the game and a goal to get them going..
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: esdailles left foot on October 12, 2019, 05:50:09 pm
Start with a manager who can MANAGE.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: 5 on Tour on October 12, 2019, 05:50:25 pm
Rotherham have given their players until next week to decide on their contracts

We haven’t even offered them yet

And you know this for certain how.?

Even if we haven’t, don’t you think DM has he right as a new manager to review the squad in order to drive contract renewals.?

I really hate the I want it now attitude that prevails.  Not aimed at anyone particularly.

I don’t think the “I want it now attitude” carries a great deal of weight when most of these issues, especially contracts, have been going on for 3-4 seasons. We don’t tie people into long contracts, they either leave for free or we sell them 12 months before so they don’t leave for free. It’s short sighted at best. If the recruitment is right then longer contracts aren’t a risk. It comes across like they’re terrified of offering longer contracts in case they’ve signed the wrong player.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: NickDRFC on October 12, 2019, 05:54:19 pm
Rotherham have given their players until next week to decide on their contracts

We haven’t even offered them yet

And you know this for certain how.?

Even if we haven’t, don’t you think DM has he right as a new manager to review the squad in order to drive contract renewals.?

I really hate the I want it now attitude that prevails.  Not aimed at anyone particularly.

I don’t think the “I want it now attitude” carries a great deal of weight when most of these issues, especially contracts, have been going on for 3-4 seasons. We don’t tie people into long contracts, they either leave for free or we sell them 12 months before so they don’t leave for free. It’s short sighted at best. If the recruitment is right then longer contracts aren’t a risk. It comes across like they’re terrified of offering longer contracts in case they’ve signed the wrong player.

Agreed, I started a topic in I think December last year saying I was concerned that we’d end up losing players as we hadn’t started contract talks and got shot down, told to stop panicking, ages to go yet, how do you know it’s not happening behind the scenes etc. That didn’t turn out particularly well!
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: vaya on October 12, 2019, 05:54:58 pm
ME! ME! LOOK AT ME!!

Fixed that.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: bobbymax on October 12, 2019, 06:03:50 pm
Start with a manager who can MANAGE.
Is there a button which deletes any posts from particular individuals?
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: esdailles left foot on October 12, 2019, 06:20:16 pm
Go on just for once admit it, I may just be right. Wait till the injuries and bad weather really kick in and whiteman buggers off in January.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: vaya on October 12, 2019, 06:21:42 pm
Go on just for once admit it, I may just be right. Wait till the injuries and bad weather really kick in and whiteman buggers off in January.

"ME ME ME.."
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: vaya on October 12, 2019, 06:35:18 pm
Go on just for once admit it, I may just be right. Wait till the injuries and bad weather really kick in and whiteman buggers off in January.

"ME ME ME.."

f**k off you dick. Just because someone offers a different opinion. What is it with the self important wazzocks on here, total shithouses

Thanks. I think you've touched on some of this before.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: esdailles left foot on October 12, 2019, 06:42:06 pm
Boring people with boring lives willing to accept mediocrity and being fed lies all wrapped up in a club doncaster ribbon. We had the chance to push on after last season but f**ked up big time due to a mindless transfer policy. No wonder Grant left even to that madhouse.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Spilsby Red on October 12, 2019, 06:44:33 pm
Why don’t you follow him then
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: esdailles left foot on October 12, 2019, 06:47:37 pm
Why don’t you follow him then

Shut up you 6 fingered inbred shagger
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: drfc1951 on October 12, 2019, 06:51:14 pm
Why hasn't he been banned yet
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 12, 2019, 06:51:58 pm
Why don’t you follow him then

Shut up you 6 fingered inbred shagger

Have a different, albeit ill-judged opinion on football matters by all means.

If you’re going to descend to that sort of childish  behaviour I suggest you do so elsewhere..
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 12, 2019, 06:53:41 pm
Start with a manager who can MANAGE.

I think I prefer Copps’ opinion on DM’s managerial qualities, given that he is quite an experienced pro is our Copps, than that of an over opinionated childish keyboard warrior..
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: phil old leake on October 12, 2019, 07:13:03 pm
Cops is magic. I disagree there must be plenty of out of contract players available
I’m unfortunate that I can’t get to matches at the moment due to where I live but it seems to be such a desperate situation that it could be worth finding some recently retire old duffer who knows where the net is  who would maybe play until January until a full time replacement is found
From what il reading and I hope I’m wrong if we don’t find an answer soon we’ve no chance of achieving anything this season
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: dickos1 on October 12, 2019, 07:22:18 pm
So which of you is party to contract discussions at the club.?



Coppinger and sadlier have both stayed publicly they haven’t been offered a contract yet
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: dickos1 on October 12, 2019, 07:23:23 pm
The point we had plenty of chances and didn’t score emphasises the point we need a striker not opposes the point

Vs Portsmouth..

May hit the bar, cracking shot.. what difference would having a striker have made.?

Same with Whiteman..

Whiteman missed one or two as did Taylor.

On another day those same players score 2-3 goals with an identical performance.

Yes we would be better with a striker and playing to his strengths but last weekend was different..

Other people will have chances, but a striker will create his own space, make runs, be in the right place at the right time.

That’s what we’re missing and it’s blatantly obvious
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: 5 on Tour on October 12, 2019, 07:29:25 pm
Why don’t you follow him then

Shut up you 6 fingered inbred shagger

About 2 posts before this you said others had no life then you bring out an “insult” like this?!?! The other day you actually said some sense and now this. It’s like you’ve got a split personality. They’re both tossers but one is worse than the other!
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: NewDonny on October 12, 2019, 07:39:50 pm
Why don’t you follow him then

Shut up you 6 fingered inbred shagger

He's on a fishing expedition, ignore him.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 12, 2019, 07:43:39 pm
The point we had plenty of chances and didn’t score emphasises the point we need a striker not opposes the point

Vs Portsmouth..

May hit the bar, cracking shot.. what difference would having a striker have made.?

Same with Whiteman..

Whiteman missed one or two as did Taylor.

On another day those same players score 2-3 goals with an identical performance.

Yes we would be better with a striker and playing to his strengths but last weekend was different..

Other people will have chances, but a striker will create his own space, make runs, be in the right place at the right time.

That’s what we’re missing and it’s blatantly obvious

I’m not disagreeing with you, in principle, I just don’t think there would have been much difference to the Portsmouth game..
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Spilsby Red on October 12, 2019, 07:56:34 pm
There is nothing to say a striker will score all these goals that others are missing. We can’t keep saying about Marquis. As he played in a different team with different players and system.
New team. We got thrashed at Luton last year and finished where we finished. There also seems to be more respect from the players for DM than there was for GM.

Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: dickos1 on October 12, 2019, 08:06:54 pm
Losing to Luton though isn’t quite the same, they won the league at a canter
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 12, 2019, 08:17:45 pm
And oxford were in crap form before today’s game, were they?

On both occasions we’ve played poorly against good teams during a period of good form for them..

We have seen our team play much better on numerous occasions regardless of the striker issue, and the same happened last season..

We had a shit day today, but it’s not the end of the world, is it.?
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Michael Shaw on October 12, 2019, 08:42:39 pm
I find it quite laughable that fans will continue to defend Rovers after a performance like that. I am ashamed to follow Rovers.

We have no teeth or firepower because we don't have a striker, and we have been saying that since Marquis left.

Right from the start I said we would end up mid table and there is no plan.

Darren Moore is a disappointment and I can't understand why so many fans can't see that. No way will he lead us into the playoffs and we are now 25% of the way through the season. He has had plenty of time now to prove his work and no doubt next March he will still be saying "we are still a work in progress".
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Campsall rover on October 12, 2019, 08:45:22 pm
We'll do enough to stay up. The board will have to accept that with this squad/wage structure. Anything extra Darren Moore will have done a top job.

We shouldn’t have to accept it though. With the crowds we are getting we should be finishing in the top half

The crowds are manufactured though, in reality they are a lot less.
Please explain.
Are you saying the club are making them up? If so they are not going to inflate the figures are they?That would mean paying more V.A.T.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 12, 2019, 08:48:34 pm
We'll do enough to stay up. The board will have to accept that with this squad/wage structure. Anything extra Darren Moore will have done a top job.

We shouldn’t have to accept it though. With the crowds we are getting we should be finishing in the top half

The crowds are manufactured though, in reality they are a lot less.
Please explain.
Are you saying the club are making them up? If so they are not going to inflate the figures are they?That would mean paying more V.A.T.

More to do with the massive amount of freebies which people don't use, yet still get put on the attendance.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Donny Exile in York on October 12, 2019, 08:51:50 pm
I find it quite laughable that fans will continue to defend Rovers after a performance like that. I am ashamed to follow Rovers.

We have no teeth or firepower because we don't have a striker, and we have been saying that since Marquis left.

Right from the start I said we would end up mid table and there is no plan.

Darren Moore is a disappointment and I can't understand why so many fans can't see that. No way will he lead us into the playoffs and we are now 25% of the way through the season. He has had plenty of time now to prove his work and no doubt next March he will still be saying "we are still a work in progress".

I agree with your points re a striker Michael and liked Edsdailes early post.. but I have to say I think Moore has done a great job so far making a silk purse from a sow's ear as the saying goes.. and we are playing very good football, certainly at home, which makes it even more criminal we dont have a proven goalscorer to finish off the chances and haven't replaced Marquis... first it was a need to get a new manager, then it was a need to assess the squad, then it's still a month or three weeks til the window shuts, then there is still time, then the bids for proven strikers in but probably the players were already lined up at clubs, the window shuts... then its there are non contract players, victor Anichebe, loan signings (note they have played well and shown great potential, John, Ennis, Sheaf etc but a thin squad with a few injuries takes its toll), youth players, the resurrection of Alex Kwiyoma, false number 9s... we need an experienced proven goalscorer, maybe two.. then the chances will be converted and we will get the results performances until today have merited.  We had say a month before the window shut and had to fund a Marquis replacement as it was clear that a few early season games or a pre season match dont count when it gets to October, injuries hit and we not scoring the goals consistently to get the points we deserve, e.g. Ipswich away, Portsmouth and Blackpool at home, and for what it's worth I recognise we have played well and won games against some tough opposition to date, so for me Moore has done a sterling job so far..
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: esdailles left foot on October 12, 2019, 09:09:52 pm
We'll do enough to stay up. The board will have to accept that with this squad/wage structure. Anything extra Darren Moore will have done a top job.

We shouldn’t have to accept it though. With the crowds we are getting we should be finishing in the top half

The crowds are manufactured though, in reality they are a lot less.
Please explain.
Are you saying the club are making them up? If so they are not going to inflate the figures are they?That would mean payi

ng more V.A.T

Yes and have for many years
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Campsall rover on October 12, 2019, 09:10:03 pm
I find it quite laughable that fans will continue to defend Rovers after a performance like that. I am ashamed to follow Rovers.

We have no teeth or firepower because we don't have a striker, and we have been saying that since Marquis left.

Right from the start I said we would end up mid table and there is no plan.

Darren Moore is a disappointment and I can't understand why so many fans can't see that. No way will he lead us into the playoffs and we are now 25% of the way through the season. He has had plenty of time now to prove his work and no doubt next March he will still be saying "we are still a work in progress".
We put in our 1st poor performance of the season and it WAS the 1st one.
You then say Darren Moore is a disappointment and you are ashamed to support Rovers.
Unbelievable, I can’t get my breath. You are ASHAMED!!!

We have played some exquisite football this season. We have beaten Fleetwood, Lincoln, Rotherham & Peterborough all teams tipped to do well this season. We drew away at Ipswich a game we should have won & their supporters said we were the best team they have played this season.
We totally dominated against Portsmouth and if it hadn’t been for the woodwork would have beaten them also another team expected to finish near to the top of the league.

AND YOU ARE ASHAMED TO SUPPORT ROVERS. I’ll tel you what Michael you should be ashamed making a comment like that after ONE poor performance against may i add a good team in form.

You need to get a grip and you are not the only one on here that just loves to have a massive meltdown when we lose.  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: acacia94 on October 12, 2019, 09:17:46 pm
I was there today and it wasn't great but christ on a bike get a grip. I've seen far worse from Rovers – Wimbledon away last season jumps out!!
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Mark Lyall on October 12, 2019, 09:19:20 pm
Ashamed to support Rovers ? Never ever said that even in our darkest days . If your that ashamed Michael then please feel free to take your support else . Win lose or draw I'm proud to say I support Doncaster Rovers .
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: vaya on October 12, 2019, 09:28:49 pm
I find it quite laughable that fans will continue to defend Rovers after a performance like that. I am ashamed to follow Rovers.

We have no teeth or firepower because we don't have a striker, and we have been saying that since Marquis left.

Right from the start I said we would end up mid table and there is no plan.

Darren Moore is a disappointment and I can't understand why so many fans can't see that. No way will he lead us into the playoffs and we are now 25% of the way through the season. He has had plenty of time now to prove his work and no doubt next March he will still be saying "we are still a work in progress".

"Gone fishin'...."
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: dickos1 on October 12, 2019, 09:43:35 pm
And oxford were in crap form before today’s game, were they?

On both occasions we’ve played poorly against good teams during a period of good form for them..

We have seen our team play much better on numerous occasions regardless of the striker issue, and the same happened last season..

We had a shit day today, but it’s not the end of the world, is it.?

Never said any of that.
Oxford were no higher than us in the table, totally different than playing the side running away with the league.

We started the season well but we’ve now got 5 points from the last 6 games. So it’s not just today that’s worrying
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redandwhitewizard on October 12, 2019, 09:49:04 pm
I am ashamed that any rovers fan should express feeling ashamed.  I was there today and felt frustrated.  Having done this for over 40 years most will understand i have seen some genuinely poor play at our club BUT I HAVE NEVER FELT ASHAMED. Grow up or stick a pin in a premiership list and sit on your arse out of our way.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: NewDonny on October 12, 2019, 10:01:02 pm
I find it quite laughable that fans will continue to defend Rovers after a performance like that. I am ashamed to follow Rovers.

We have no teeth or firepower because we don't have a striker, and we have been saying that since Marquis left.

Right from the start I said we would end up mid table and there is no plan.

Darren Moore is a disappointment and I can't understand why so many fans can't see that. No way will he lead us into the playoffs and we are now 25% of the way through the season. He has had plenty of time now to prove his work and no doubt next March he will still be saying "we are still a work in progress".

After a performance like what?

Oxford are a very good side, we saw that last May and we have seen it this season so far, so losing to Oxford United today was no big disgrace like you would have us all believe. We got outplayed and out thought today by the better team, that's it, move on, just like Peterborough did after losing to us several weeks ago, now look at them!

Bristol Rovers next up and I expect a reaction and 3 points at home.

Please stop the knicker wetting, it's one defeat.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: scawsby steve on October 12, 2019, 10:29:12 pm
I find it quite laughable that fans will continue to defend Rovers after a performance like that. I am ashamed to follow Rovers.

We have no teeth or firepower because we don't have a striker, and we have been saying that since Marquis left.

Right from the start I said we would end up mid table and there is no plan.

Darren Moore is a disappointment and I can't understand why so many fans can't see that. No way will he lead us into the playoffs and we are now 25% of the way through the season. He has had plenty of time now to prove his work and no doubt next March he will still be saying "we are still a work in progress".

After a performance like what?

Oxford are a very good side, we saw that last May and we have seen it this season so far, so losing to Oxford United today was no big disgrace like you would have us all believe. We got outplayed and out thought today by the better team, that's it, move on, just like Peterborough did after losing to us several weeks ago, now look at them!

Bristol Rovers next up and I expect a reaction and 3 points at home.

Please stop the knicker wetting, it's one defeat.

Also, it's worth noting that Oxford are the top goal scorers in the country. It's no disgrace conceding 2 goals and a penalty to a team in that kind of form.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 12, 2019, 10:45:51 pm
*Logs on*
Same old moaning ingrates resurfacing after a defeat.
*Logs off*
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: roversdude on October 12, 2019, 11:37:00 pm
I find it quite laughable that fans will continue to defend Rovers after a performance like that. I am ashamed to follow Rovers.

We have no teeth or firepower because we don't have a striker, and we have been saying that since Marquis left.

Right from the start I said we would end up mid table and there is no plan.

Darren Moore is a disappointment and I can't understand why so many fans can't see that. No way will he lead us into the playoffs and we are now 25% of the way through the season. He has had plenty of time now to prove his work and no doubt next March he will still be saying "we are still a work in progress".

Only missing a dig at the board for a full house in the Michael Shaw posting game
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: roversam on October 12, 2019, 11:47:42 pm
Michael Shaw AKA WUM.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 13, 2019, 07:59:00 am
And oxford were in crap form before today’s game, were they?

On both occasions we’ve played poorly against good teams during a period of good form for them..

We have seen our team play much better on numerous occasions regardless of the striker issue, and the same happened last season..

We had a shit day today, but it’s not the end of the world, is it.?

Never said any of that.
Oxford were no higher than us in the table, totally different than playing the side running away with the league.

We started the season well but we’ve now got 5 points from the last 6 games. So it’s not just today that’s worrying

Position in the table is irrelevant to my point, I was talking about Oxford being in very good form..

You seem to be missing the point.. never mind.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: GazLaz on October 13, 2019, 09:00:03 am
The funds not being made available to suitably replace Marquis was criminal. That will cost us massively over the season.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: idler on October 13, 2019, 09:45:00 am
How do we know that they weren't made available?
Perhaps Moore didn't fancy the two GM had earmarked but his choices were unavailable by the time he had been appointed and settled in.
The only people that know the true situation are the board and management. I'm sure that our situation is discussed regularly whether we are winning or losing.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Colin C No.3 on October 13, 2019, 10:14:08 am
Start with a manager who can MANAGE.

Kick Moore into touch, he’s only ever managed a team to relegation after all, & get Fatty Evans in, he’ll sort this team out & the players & the board & put this club on the map!



Where’s me tablets.....
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 13, 2019, 11:14:43 am
How do we know that they weren't made available?
Perhaps Moore didn't fancy the two GM had earmarked but his choices were unavailable by the time he had been appointed and settled in.
The only people that know the true situation are the board and management. I'm sure that our situation is discussed regularly whether we are winning or losing.

It was Moore who earmarked them. Moore who said he had two players lined up with better records than marquis.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 13, 2019, 11:45:52 am
Why don’t you follow him then

Shut up you 6 fingered inbred shagger

Why is this post still on here.?
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Canadian Rover on October 13, 2019, 11:58:54 am
1st goal a cruel deflection
3rd goal was very unlucky to be given as a penalty.

Copps needs to shoot more though.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: sheffield exile1 on October 13, 2019, 12:38:11 pm
I find it quite laughable that fans will continue to defend Rovers after a performance like that. I am ashamed to follow Rovers.

We have no teeth or firepower because we don't have a striker, and we have been saying that since Marquis left.

Right from the start I said we would end up mid table and there is no plan.

Darren Moore is a disappointment and I can't understand why so many fans can't see that. No way will he lead us into the playoffs and we are now 25% of the way through the season. He has had plenty of time now to prove his work and no doubt next March he will still be saying "we are still a work in progress".

You must be a new kid on the block. Didn't you see the Forest league cup 0-8 home defeat a good few years ago. Ashamed is too strong a word when watching a team in League 1 with a less than sparkling history. As for Moore he has done a good job since we lost the snake and decimated the squad. Only fault I have with whoever at DRFC is the lack of getting a striker in.....
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: sha66y on October 13, 2019, 12:57:44 pm
I find it quite laughable that fans will continue to defend Rovers after a performance like that. I am ashamed to follow Rovers.

We have no teeth or firepower because we don't have a striker, and we have been saying that since Marquis left.

Right from the start I said we would end up mid table and there is no plan.

Darren Moore is a disappointment and I can't understand why so many fans can't see that. No way will he lead us into the playoffs and we are now 25% of the way through the season. He has had plenty of time now to prove his work and no doubt next March he will still be saying "we are still a work in progress".

Michael!
Your first line summed it up perfectly...
The REAL fans WILL defend their team through every performance whether we lose win or draw...,

they might get frustrated, but their allegiance will NEVER waver.....NEVER,!!
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: dickos1 on October 13, 2019, 01:50:29 pm
How do we know that they weren't made available?
Perhaps Moore didn't fancy the two GM had earmarked but his choices were unavailable by the time he had been appointed and settled in.
The only people that know the true situation are the board and management. I'm sure that our situation is discussed regularly whether we are winning or losing.

Moore stated on radio Sheffield we’d placed row bids for two strikers that had records as good as, if not better than marquis’s and we were now in discussions with both players.
Neither signed,
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: dickos1 on October 13, 2019, 01:54:25 pm
And oxford were in crap form before today’s game, were they?

On both occasions we’ve played poorly against good teams during a period of good form for them..

We have seen our team play much better on numerous occasions regardless of the striker issue, and the same happened last season..

We had a shit day today, but it’s not the end of the world, is it.?

Never said any of that.
Oxford were no higher than us in the table, totally different than playing the side running away with the league.

We started the season well but we’ve now got 5 points from the last 6 games. So it’s not just today that’s worrying

Position in the table is irrelevant to my point, I was talking about Oxford being in very good form..

You seem to be missing the point.. never mind.

I’m not missing the point I’m just disagreeing , Oxford have 11 points from 6 games, nothing outstanding and certainly not of the nature of form Luton we’re in when we played them
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Campsall rover on October 13, 2019, 03:34:15 pm
The funds not being made available to suitably replace Marquis was criminal. That will cost us massively over the season.
The board said funds were available.
There was obviously a very good reason why we never got the striker or strikers DM wanted.
Could be a number of reasons. Asking for unrealistic Wages and Agents fees being the most probable reasons why we didn’t get our man.
But to complain and moan day in day out about the situation as some are doing on here is getting very boring.
We all know the problem we have at present but we will make do with what we have got and get on with it.

Like someone has just mentioned in another post we are not the only ones are we.
Coventry can’t hit a barn door at the moment. Portsmouth are not exactly free scoring are they and they have Pitman, Marquis and Harrison. Sunderland likewise, Wyke, Grigg & Maguire.

If Ennis stays fit he will score goals given the number of chances we create. I am very confident in his ability to score
Yesterday was an off day for most of our team. Sadlier and Taylor just were not on their game imo & Thomas looked a little raw and it will take some time for him to get up to speed.
But credit needs to go to Oxford they looked a very solid outfit and they won’t concede many goals this season.
We will be fine and it just shows the impatience of some of our so called supporters when 1 below par performance creates so many ridiculous knee jerk reactions on this forum.
It just shows how well we have played this season when yesterday’s game gets such a poor reaction because we were no where near as bad as some have made out. We have set high standards for ourselves.
How is it that a manager is a coaching genius when we win and a tactical clown when we lose.

We are very lucky to have captured a manager/coach of DM’s ability. Let him get on with putting the building blocks together and let’s see where it takes us.
Good things lie ahead for our club. We are on the right road.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: silent majority on October 13, 2019, 06:06:13 pm
We'll do enough to stay up. The board will have to accept that with this squad/wage structure. Anything extra Darren Moore will have done a top job.

We shouldn’t have to accept it though. With the crowds we are getting we should be finishing in the top half

The crowds are manufactured though, in reality they are a lot less.
Please explain.
Are you saying the club are making them up? If so they are not going to inflate the figures are they?That would mean paying more V.A.T.

More to do with the massive amount of freebies which people don't use, yet still get put on the attendance.

There is no 'massive amount of freebies' which don't get used.

This is just claptrap put about by people like yourself who just revel in inaccurate posts or opinions brought about by a desire to criticise at all costs.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: steve@dcfd on October 13, 2019, 08:38:55 pm
We talk about a striker yes I would like to have signed one. Last season 40+ goals came from two players Marquis and Wilks a centre forward and wide player.
It’s also been said that Oxford are the leading scorers so far this season. Their leading scorers are two midfield players and wide player scoring 8,6 and 6 so far.
Our leading scorers are a midfield player and two of the three behind a striker. Although Sadlier scored two of his league goals playing as the main striker . Between them they have scored 8 goals.

So yes it would be great to have a striker scoring goals. But the three behind the striker must increase their goals aswell. If all 4 ( striker and three behind) could score 10/12 goals each then we would help our position.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 13, 2019, 09:52:07 pm
For all those moaning there are only three logical answers to your gripe:

1. The money is there but the manager is inept and cannot see we need a striker.

2. The money is not there and the manager is being restricted in what he can spend by the Board.

3. The money is there and the manager wants to buy but the right player is not there.

Who are you blaming?
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: DonnyOsmond on October 13, 2019, 09:54:58 pm
Number 3.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: steve@dcfd on October 13, 2019, 10:00:49 pm
Chris for me I don’t see the manager is inept in any thing he’s doing at the club.
Only the manager and the board know the answers to to 2 and 3.

Let’s see what happens at the next window.

In the mean time whoever is selected in the attacking positions can hopefully start taking chances we create.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: dickos1 on October 14, 2019, 08:01:27 am
Number one is obviously not correct as Moore has stated constantly about our need to recruit at least one number 9
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 14, 2019, 08:41:24 am
We'll do enough to stay up. The board will have to accept that with this squad/wage structure. Anything extra Darren Moore will have done a top job.

We shouldn’t have to accept it though. With the crowds we are getting we should be finishing in the top half

The crowds are manufactured though, in reality they are a lot less.
Please explain.
Are you saying the club are making them up? If so they are not going to inflate the figures are they?That would mean paying more V.A.T.

More to do with the massive amount of freebies which people don't use, yet still get put on the attendance.

There is no 'massive amount of freebies' which don't get used.

This is just claptrap put about by people like yourself who just revel in inaccurate posts or opinions brought about by a desire to criticise at all costs.

Explain some of the laughable "official" attendances given out over the last few years. Main point being the Coventry game last season, more than 12k in the stadium apparently, when anyone with eyes could see it wasn't anywhere near that.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 14, 2019, 09:01:35 am
So what if that was correct.?  I have a ST but don’t always go, and I’m sure I’m not the only one, but my attendance would count at every home league game..
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: wabtec on October 14, 2019, 09:11:00 am
Number one is obviously not correct as Moore has stated constantly about our need to recruit at least one number 9

But the manager has recruited a number 9,Kwame Thomas who was in fact picked before Niall Ennis would you believe,imo he is definately not the answer because he isnt very good and he is bone idle,hence the cheer from the rovers fans when he was taken off at Oxford.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: silent majority on October 14, 2019, 09:11:55 am
So, the club pay vat on every ticket bought, and also comp tickets that are used.

Why in Gods name would the club increase the official attendance by several thousand just so they can pay vat on tickets that are not used.

It's just a ludicrous suggestion that they would do so just for vanity reasons.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 14, 2019, 09:42:18 am
So, the club pay vat on every ticket bought, and also comp tickets that are used.

Why in Gods name would the club increase the official attendance by several thousand just so they can pay vat on tickets that are not used.

It's just a ludicrous suggestion that they would do so just for vanity reasons.

I don't know why, but it is clear that the attendances are inflated. It's obvious.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Campsall rover on October 14, 2019, 07:19:48 pm
So, the club pay vat on every ticket bought, and also comp tickets that are used.

Why in Gods name would the club increase the official attendance by several thousand just so they can pay vat on tickets that are not used.

It's just a ludicrous suggestion that they would do so just for vanity reasons.
Exactly what i said SM. But RedArmy isn’t going to accept anything positive that is said about the club.
He even thinks the attendance figures are doctored.  :facepalm:

Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: redarmy82 on October 14, 2019, 08:02:18 pm
The club give hundreds, if not over 1000 tickets away for every game. That was confirmed by GB a couple of years ago at a meet the owners event.

I wonder how many actually use the free tickets.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 14, 2019, 08:25:12 pm
So what.?
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: Retdon1 on October 17, 2019, 11:56:36 am
Gary hooper has signed for Wellington Phoenix in New Zealand. Surprised he’s moved over there
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: steve@dcfd on October 17, 2019, 12:59:20 pm
Looks like we’ll need an excellent FA cup run this season to get a good striker.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: IDM on October 17, 2019, 01:10:32 pm
Are you serious.?

At the start of the season it was widely reported that funds were available for DM to strengthen the squad.  Nothing was said about that being dependent upon a cup run.

And yes, I have read the DFP online today.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: phil old leake on October 18, 2019, 08:10:15 pm
I’m assuming that any chance of Victor Anichebe signing is now a non starter as it probably was in the first place
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: ian1980 on October 18, 2019, 08:14:36 pm
He stopped training with us a few weeks back according to Radio Sheffield
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: phil old leake on October 18, 2019, 08:34:50 pm
I must have missed that.

I’m glad it’s all over to be fair.  It was never going to happen and h
Just gave people false hope
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: northern soul on October 18, 2019, 09:26:51 pm
Chocolate knees by all accounts.
Title: Re: We need a striker
Post by: since-1969 on October 18, 2019, 09:56:22 pm
For all those moaning there are only three logical answers to your gripe:

1. The money is there but the manager is inept and cannot see we need a striker.

2. The money is not there and the manager is being restricted in what he can spend by the Board.

3. The money is there and the manager wants to buy but the right player is not there.

Who are you blaming?
Number 2 . It’s always number 2 here !!