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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: redarmy82 on October 12, 2019, 04:40:21 pm
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Only 3 players contracted beyond this season.
The honeymoon period is over and the fact we've a squad of loanees, short term contracts and young players with no experience is going to hit us hard.
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Only 3 players contracted beyond this season.
The honeymoon period is over and the fact we've a squad of loanees, short term contracts and young players with no experience is going to hit us hard.
I’m sure we have seven players contracted beyond the current season? Not that it’s anything like enough. Just saying.
Edit - I see you mean today’s team. Not the entire squad.
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Only 3 players contracted beyond this season.
The honeymoon period is over and the fact we've a squad of loanees, short term contracts and young players with no experience is going to hit us hard.
I’m sure we have seven players contracted beyond the current season? Not that it’s anything like enough. Just saying.
I'm talking about in the team today.
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And it’s the 11th game, on 12th October..
What of DM concludes he wants to change most of the squad anyway.?
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And it’s the 11th game, on 12th October..
What of DM concludes he wants to change most of the squad anyway.?
He’s not going to have a lot of choice when “most” of the current squad aren’t here in July.
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And it’s the 11th game, on 12th October..
What of DM concludes he wants to change most of the squad anyway.?
You’re saying those dates as though it’s too early.
You’d think from what happened to us last season then we’d be giving deadlines out to sign but we haven’t even offered them yet
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And it’s the 11th game, on 12th October..
What of DM concludes he wants to change most of the squad anyway.?
You’re saying those dates as though it’s too early.
You’d think from what happened to us last season then we’d be giving deadlines out to sign but we haven’t even offered them yet
Have we not?
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No
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No
You know this how?
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Because both coppinger and sadlier have said publicly over the last couple of weeks that they haven’t had a contract offer.
And Moore said at the meet the owners that they were hoping to start talks soon
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Because both coppinger and sadlier have said publicly over the last couple of weeks that they haven’t had a contract offer.
And Moore said at the meet the owners that they were hoping to start talks soon
That's two players out of the entire squad and a statement in the past.
You don't actually know we haven't offered any then.
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To start offering them now would go against how he usually do our business.
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Because both coppinger and sadlier have said publicly over the last couple of weeks that they haven’t had a contract offer.
And Moore said at the meet the owners that they were hoping to start talks soon
So the club ARE doing something about it.?
Just because these discussions aren’t played out in public doesn’t mean they aren’t happening..
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And it’s the 11th game, on 12th October..
What of DM concludes he wants to change most of the squad anyway.?
You’re saying those dates as though it’s too early.
You’d think from what happened to us last season then we’d be giving deadlines out to sign but we haven’t even offered them yet
No, am saying those dates as it is not too late..
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So no-one appears to know how we're actually progressing with contract negotiations then, either way.
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DM the honeymoon is over He needs to start performing and to get this sorted asap
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If I were the manager or on the board I wouldn't be rushing to give out many deals to those players in today's team
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Start performing. OMG. Didn’t realise we had lost every game
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Because both coppinger and sadlier have said publicly over the last couple of weeks that they haven’t had a contract offer.
And Moore said at the meet the owners that they were hoping to start talks soon
That's two players out of the entire squad and a statement in the past.
You don't actually know we haven't offered any then.
It’s two players who are our better players that we would want to keep.
Not the entire squad are out of contract.
We always mess about offering contracts we never seem to learn from the mess we’ve been left in the year before
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Because both coppinger and sadlier have said publicly over the last couple of weeks that they haven’t had a contract offer.
And Moore said at the meet the owners that they were hoping to start talks soon
That's two players out of the entire squad and a statement in the past.
You don't actually know we haven't offered any then.
It’s two players who are our better players that we would want to keep.
Not the entire squad are out of contract.
We always mess about offering contracts we never seem to learn from the mess we’ve been left in the year before
Again, do you know for a fact we haven't started any negotiations or made any contract offers to any of the out-of-contract players in the squad.
Straight yes or no.
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Only 3 players contracted beyond this season.
The honeymoon period is over and the fact we've a squad of loanees, short term contracts and young players with no experience is going to hit us hard.
I’m sure we have seven players contracted beyond the current season? Not that it’s anything like enough. Just saying.
I'm talking about in the team today.
Edited to acknowledge that. But it’s actually four of today’s starting line up.
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People do spout crap. If we had this or that striker we would score. Rubbish. There is no given it would happen. I wasn’t there today, sounds like we had an of day. It happens. In majority of the games I have seen we have played great football and been unlucky sometimes. At least generally we are creating chances. But it’s never enough for some people. In some people’s eyes, If we had a striker they would score majority of the chances we create. Absolute rubbish.
A defeat like this happens. As it did a Luton. Get over it. Put it behind us and move on and support the club
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Because both coppinger and sadlier have said publicly over the last couple of weeks that they haven’t had a contract offer.
And Moore said at the meet the owners that they were hoping to start talks soon
That's two players out of the entire squad and a statement in the past.
You don't actually know we haven't offered any then.
It’s two players who are our better players that we would want to keep.
Not the entire squad are out of contract.
We always mess about offering contracts we never seem to learn from the mess we’ve been left in the year before
Again, do you know for a fact we haven't started any negotiations or made any contract offers to any of the out-of-contract players in the squad.
Straight yes or no.
Do you know we have?
Sadlier would be the first in line I’d imagine and he hasn’t so you can use your nogging a little bit
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Because both coppinger and sadlier have said publicly over the last couple of weeks that they haven’t had a contract offer.
And Moore said at the meet the owners that they were hoping to start talks soon
That's two players out of the entire squad and a statement in the past.
You don't actually know we haven't offered any then.
It’s two players who are our better players that we would want to keep.
Not the entire squad are out of contract.
We always mess about offering contracts we never seem to learn from the mess we’ve been left in the year before
Again, do you know for a fact we haven't started any negotiations or made any contract offers to any of the out-of-contract players in the squad.
Straight yes or no.
Do you know we have?
Sadlier would be the first in line I’d imagine and he hasn’t so you can use your nogging a little bit
I'll happily admit I've no idea either way how the club are getting on with contracts. Then again, I'm not the one saying we haven't.
Third time - do you know for a fact the club hasn't started any negotiations or made offers to any of the out-of-contract players?
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Other than sadlier and copps no.
But I’m premising that as they’re 2 of the most important out of contract players
They’d be the ones getting offered contracts first
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Other than sadlier and copps no.
But I’m premising that as they’re 2 of the most important out of contract players
They’d be the ones getting offered contracts first
Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion.
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Because both coppinger and sadlier have said publicly over the last couple of weeks that they haven’t had a contract offer.
And Moore said at the meet the owners that they were hoping to start talks soon
So the club ARE doing something about it.?
Just because these discussions aren’t played out in public doesn’t mean they aren’t happening..
These lines do start to bore me after a while. It's great that you have and me to a large extent a great confidence in the club.
I've seen however a lack of forward planning and serious investment in the club from the youth team all the way through to the first team manager for about 3 or 4 seasons now and it is starting to worry me abit.
I think we are v lucky to have DM and think the board have sold him a dream.......... But I'm struggling to see how it can become a reality at this moment in time or even close again for another 2 or 3 seasons without a dose of investment in the team
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One defeat and pessimists and WUMs appear like swarms of locusts. OK, WUMs are WUMs (and I do feel a bit sorry for them), but for the permanent pessimists who are more a less saying we will quickly drop like a stone to Tier 6 because of failure to invest, then you are really following the wrong club, and you need to walk away from the Keepmoat -- Elland Road and Bramall Lane beckon, you so farewell. (and don't come back when Darren Moore's work in progress begins to mature). Why ever the permanent pessimists can't see that the club are trying to build a firm foundation for a relatively small club with small gates to compete regularly in the Championship, I do not understand. I'm so proud of my Club and what it has recently achieved since near extinction just over 20 years ago.
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I agree with the majority of this although I can’t see with what we’re doing currently that it could be described as trying to build solid foundations.
We’ve lost a number of players in the summer and replaced them with players that won’t be with us next season and we also have the vast majority of the squad having their contracts expire in the summer.
At the moment we’re not looking at all like we have a solid base or any long term plan
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I agree with the majority of this although I can’t see with what we’re doing currently that it could be described as trying to build solid foundations.
We’ve lost a number of players in the summer and replaced them with players that won’t be with us next season and we also have the vast majority of the squad having their contracts expire in the summer.
At the moment we’re not looking at all like we have a solid base or any long term plan
No the board and GB are clueless Dickos. We have no plan at all. We are going to let all the contracts run down and let our best players leave for nothing.
I really don’t understand your constant winging Dickos.
Two years ago when we were playing dross under DF you were happy as Larry now we are playing exciting attacking football your anything but happy.
Your hero is at Peterborough go and support them.
You will love it at London road.
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😂😂 calm down you clown
We let a number of our better players leave for nothing last season, mainly down to mccann.
But if we’ve players we want to keep why aren’t we securing their future.
It’s ok keep going on about the plan and we know what we’re doing but the management of the squad has been appalling this year.
That is a fact
Senior players have left, players who were very important squad players and they haven’t been replaced
That is why we’re struggling over these last few weeks because a couple of injuries and were knackered.
This was obviously going to happen yet nobody foresaw it
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😂😂 calm down you clown
We let a number of our better players leave for nothing last season, mainly down to mccann.
But if we’ve players we want to keep why aren’t we securing their future.
It’s ok keep going on about the plan and we know what we’re doing but the management of the squad has been appalling this year.
That is a fact
Senior players have left, players who were very important squad players and they haven’t been replaced
That is why we’re struggling over these last few weeks because a couple of injuries and were knackered.
This was obviously going to happen yet nobody foresaw it
You did by the sound of it.
Our last two results had nothing whatsoever to do with the size of our squad.
There is no need to get personal calling me a clown. I have never done that to you have i.
Just pointing out your constant winging at the way the club is run.
You used to be one of the most positive posters on this forum and now you have become one of the most negative.
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Telling me to go and support someone else just because I have a differing opinion to you is getting personal.
I am positive, there’s only one subject that is getting to me, you’ll very rarely hear me slagging players off, I think Moore is going to be a very good manager.
I just can’t see anything to be positive about regarding recruitment and squad management.
Our squad 12 months ago was far better than it is now, and 24 months ago possibly even better.
If Moore had the players mCcann and Ferguson had at his disposal then I think we’d be top two this year.
Building our side around young talented loan players isn’t setting good foundations in my opinion, loan players should be added in one or two areas to improve but this side has the spine of the team made up of young loan players
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Telling me to go and support someone else just because I have a differing opinion to you is getting personal.
I am positive, there’s only one subject that is getting to me, you’ll very rarely hear me slagging players off, I think Moore is going to be a very good manager.
I just can’t see anything to be positive about regarding recruitment and squad management.
Our squad 12 months ago was far better than it is now, and 24 months ago possibly even better.
If Moore had the players mCcann and Ferguson had at his disposal then I think we’d be top two this year.
Building our side around young talented loan players isn’t setting good foundations in my opinion, loan players should be added in one or two areas to improve but this side has the spine of the team made up of young loan players
The spine of the team.
Wright and Anderson ( neither are on loan ) John ( on loan if he regains fitness )
Whiteman and Sheaf ( only 1 on loan )
Ennis ( on loan )
That is the spine and only 2 out of 5 are on loan
Last season we had Downing, & Kane in the spine. What’s changed that’s 2 out of 5 also.
We also had Wilks on loan last season and this season we also have Sterling.
I really don’t see your point Dickos.
We now have 2 superior full backs and a better goalkeeper ( yes he is on loan ) so what, is that a problem.
You are making it out to be a problem but if it improves our team then i am all for it.
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Ennis, Stirling
Sheaf
John.
All loan players who would be in our strongest 11
Last year we had other options such as Rowe, butler, marquis all experienced players who could complement the loan players.
This season all our hopes are on young loan players staying fit
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The L1 business model is increasingly being scoped around paying decent money - by L1 standards - to a smallish/select group of players on, say, 3 year contracts with the balance made up of younger squad players looking to develop (1-2 year contracts, average money) and loanees (an average of 7 per club?). Distort that balance and you end up with a very expensive squad and a (potentially) unsustainable business model (that's probably hugely reliant on the generosity of a benefactor).
The Premiership model of big, expensive squads with players nailed down on 5 year contracts just won't work in this division unless you've got a backer with more money than sense or 20,000+ crowds every other week/a 50,000+ fan base. (Ipswich and Sunderland anyone?).
Juggling the balance, getting the mix right isn't easy and DM will have to learn fast. It's not helped when loanees get injured/lose form and the striker that you need for your core group gets ever more expensive and elusive (which I suspect has proved to be the case with VA).
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Ennis, Stirling
Sheaf
John.
All loan players who would be in our strongest 11
Last year we had other options such as Rowe, butler, marquis all experienced players who could complement the loan players.
This season all our hopes are on young loan players staying fit
If the first choice front two of Marquis and Wilks were both injured at the same time last year, who would have replaced them?
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Ennis, Stirling
Sheaf
John.
All loan players who would be in our strongest 11
Last year we had other options such as Rowe, butler, marquis all experienced players who could complement the loan players.
This season all our hopes are on young loan players staying fit
Incorrect Dickos as DM has never started with both Ennis and Sterling has he. We only play with one up front don’t we. The spine as i understand it are the centre backs, centre midfield and striker.
Any way i am not going to get into one of those pointless arguments with you again.
As much as I liked Butler and Rowe as players i honestly don’t think we have missed either of them.
We have more mobility and energy in this team than we did last season. All we are lacking is scoring goals. It seems even worse because of the sheer number of chances we are creating this season.
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😂😂 calm down you clown
We let a number of our better players leave for nothing last season, mainly down to mccann.
But if we’ve players we want to keep why aren’t we securing their future.
It’s ok keep going on about the plan and we know what we’re doing but the management of the squad has been appalling this year.
That is a fact
Senior players have left, players who were very important squad players and they haven’t been replaced
That is why we’re struggling over these last few weeks because a couple of injuries and were knackered.
This was obviously going to happen yet nobody foresaw it
Why aren’t we securing their future.?
Apart from you telling us that Copps and Sadlier said a couple of weeks ago that they hadn’t been offered new deals, what actually do you know - facts not opinions nor deductions please - about what’s going on contracts wise behind the scenes at the club.?
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😂😂 calm down you clown
We let a number of our better players leave for nothing last season, mainly down to mccann.
But if we’ve players we want to keep why aren’t we securing their future.
It’s ok keep going on about the plan and we know what we’re doing but the management of the squad has been appalling this year.
That is a fact
Senior players have left, players who were very important squad players and they haven’t been replaced
That is why we’re struggling over these last few weeks because a couple of injuries and were knackered.
This was obviously going to happen yet nobody foresaw it
Why aren’t we securing their future.?
Apart from you telling us that Copps and Sadlier said a couple of weeks ago that they hadn’t been offered new deals, what actually do you know - facts not opinions nor deductions please - about what’s going on contracts wise behind the scenes at the club.?
Nothing, by his own admission - see page 1.
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Therefore his statement on the securing of players we want to keep is invalid.
I have no idea myself, but then I’m not claiming the club isn’t doing it..
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We had all this all throughout last season,
All the chaps who can’t have a word said against the club up in arms saying how do you know we haven’t started discussions how do you know contracts haven't been offered.
Yet look what happened, I may be wrong
But all the players we finally offered contracts to left because they’d received better offers.
Rowe and butler weren’t made offers until the season ended,
Now what makes you think anything is different this season?
Other clubs are setting deadlines of this week, in order so they have enough time to work on replacing them.
Waiting until the end of the season only leads to a situation where were left stranded again, as we were this summer.
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Ennis, Stirling
Sheaf
John.
All loan players who would be in our strongest 11
Last year we had other options such as Rowe, butler, marquis all experienced players who could complement the loan players.
This season all our hopes are on young loan players staying fit
If the first choice front two of Marquis and Wilks were both injured at the same time last year, who would have replaced them?
That’s the point, we’re relying on two kids who are starting their first foray into men’s football, they’re gong to get injured.
The manager himself states we need a striker, he put offers in for numerous players
Yet the chaps on here reckon we don’t need one
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Ennis, Stirling
Sheaf
John.
All loan players who would be in our strongest 11
Last year we had other options such as Rowe, butler, marquis all experienced players who could complement the loan players.
This season all our hopes are on young loan players staying fit
If the first choice front two of Marquis and Wilks were both injured at the same time last year, who would have replaced them?
That’s the point, we’re relying on two kids who are starting their first foray into men’s football, they’re gong to get injured.
The manager himself states we need a striker, he put offers in for numerous players
Yet the chaps on here reckon we don’t need one
Young players don't have a monopoly on injuries.
Still doesn't answer the question though. If Marquis and Wilks had both been injured at the same time last season, who would have replaced them?
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We had all this all throughout last season,
All the chaps who can’t have a word said against the club up in arms saying how do you know we haven’t started discussions how do you know contracts haven't been offered.
Yet look what happened, I may be wrong
But all the players we finally offered contracts to left because they’d received better offers.
Rowe and butler weren’t made offers until the season ended,
Now what makes you think anything is different this season?
Other clubs are setting deadlines of this week, in order so they have enough time to work on replacing them.
Waiting until the end of the season only leads to a situation where were left stranded again, as we were this summer.
Rowe: No one would of offered him a contract before the end of the season because he was injured for the majority of it.
Butler: Yes he had a brilliant season but if he had signed our supporters would of still wanted better? John, Anderson and Wright are probably a better trio than Anderson, Wright and Butler?
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We had all this all throughout last season,
All the chaps who can’t have a word said against the club up in arms saying how do you know we haven’t started discussions how do you know contracts haven't been offered.
Yet look what happened, I may be wrong
But all the players we finally offered contracts to left because they’d received better offers.
Rowe and butler weren’t made offers until the season ended,
Now what makes you think anything is different this season?
Other clubs are setting deadlines of this week, in order so they have enough time to work on replacing them.
Waiting until the end of the season only leads to a situation where were left stranded again, as we were this summer.
You didn’t answer the question though..
Supporting DRFC could be seen as a hobby, an interest, but it certainly isn’t dominating my life.
Yes, I trust the club to run itself appropriately and I never claim it is perfect or beyond question. But much if not all they do is beyond what I or any other fan can influence..
Debating which players are doing well, or not, or the team form etc is fine and that’s why I am here..
Making assumptions about what the club is or isn’t doing does on the face of it seem pointless since we can’t change it..
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We had all this all throughout last season,
All the chaps who can’t have a word said against the club up in arms saying how do you know we haven’t started discussions how do you know contracts haven't been offered.
Yet look what happened, I may be wrong
But all the players we finally offered contracts to left because they’d received better offers.
Rowe and butler weren’t made offers until the season ended,
Now what makes you think anything is different this season?
Other clubs are setting deadlines of this week, in order so they have enough time to work on replacing them.
Waiting until the end of the season only leads to a situation where were left stranded again, as we were this summer.
You didn’t answer the question though..
Supporting DRFC could be seen as a hobby, an interest, but it certainly isn’t dominating my life.
Yes, I trust the club to run itself appropriately and I never claim it is perfect or beyond question. But much if not all they do is beyond what I or any other fan can influence..
Debating which players are doing well, or not, or the team form etc is fine and that’s why I am here..
Making assumptions about what the club is or isn’t doing does on the face of it seem pointless since we can’t change it..
He's right though.
The seemingly meandering approach really does nothing for the fan base either. If we were more decisive and open about what we were doing then this thread may not even have started and we could see what direction the club is taking. All I can see at the minute is grey smog
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We had all this all throughout last season,
All the chaps who can’t have a word said against the club up in arms saying how do you know we haven’t started discussions how do you know contracts haven't been offered.
Yet look what happened, I may be wrong
But all the players we finally offered contracts to left because they’d received better offers.
Rowe and butler weren’t made offers until the season ended,
Now what makes you think anything is different this season?
Other clubs are setting deadlines of this week, in order so they have enough time to work on replacing them.
Waiting until the end of the season only leads to a situation where were left stranded again, as we were this summer.
Rowe: No one would of offered him a contract before the end of the season because he was injured for the majority of it.
Butler: Yes he had a brilliant season but if he had signed our supporters would of still wanted better? John, Anderson and Wright are probably a better trio than Anderson, Wright and Butler?
The point being we’ve let experienced players go who were contracted to us and replaced them with young kids on loan.
The young kids need to be used to complement the squad not be the most important aspects of it
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We had all this all throughout last season,
All the chaps who can’t have a word said against the club up in arms saying how do you know we haven’t started discussions how do you know contracts haven't been offered.
Yet look what happened, I may be wrong
But all the players we finally offered contracts to left because they’d received better offers.
Rowe and butler weren’t made offers until the season ended,
Now what makes you think anything is different this season?
Other clubs are setting deadlines of this week, in order so they have enough time to work on replacing them.
Waiting until the end of the season only leads to a situation where were left stranded again, as we were this summer.
Rowe: No one would of offered him a contract before the end of the season because he was injured for the majority of it.
Butler: Yes he had a brilliant season but if he had signed our supporters would of still wanted better? John, Anderson and Wright are probably a better trio than Anderson, Wright and Butler?
The point being we’ve let experienced players go who were contracted to us and replaced them with young kids on loan.
The young kids need to be used to complement the squad not be the most important aspects of it
Erm... Herbie... Malik?
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Erm....supplementary to the squad, which is the point Dickos was making!
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Erm....supplementary to the squad, which is the point Dickos was making!
With the best will in the world Alan, a little difficult to argue either player was (in practice) supplementary.
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The point being you put your squad together as we did last year and then you make loan signings in addition.
This season we’ve used loan players to make up the squad, without them we’re struggling massively.
For large parts of last season we played without Kane and Wilks yet our performances or results didn’t deteriorate. This season our loan players are missing and we go from very good form to very poor form. Because we’re too reliant on them, we’ve nothing else.
Look at the state of our bench.
Last year the bench was full of experienced players this year it’s full of kids who’ve never played a game before
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The point being you put your squad together as we did last year and then you make loan signings in addition.
This season we’ve used loan players to make up the squad, without them we’re struggling massively.
For large parts of last season we played without Kane and Wilks yet our performances or results didn’t deteriorate. This season our loan players are missing and we go from very good form to very poor form. Because we’re too reliant on them, we’ve nothing else.
Look at the state of our bench.
Last year the bench was full of experienced players this year it’s full of kids who’ve never played a game before
If Marquis and Wilks were both out at the same time last season, who would have replaced them?
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The point being you put your squad together as we did last year and then you make loan signings in addition.
This season we’ve used loan players to make up the squad, without them we’re struggling massively.
For large parts of last season we played without Kane and Wilks yet our performances or results didn’t deteriorate. This season our loan players are missing and we go from very good form to very poor form. Because we’re too reliant on them, we’ve nothing else.
Look at the state of our bench.
Last year the bench was full of experienced players this year it’s full of kids who’ve never played a game before
According to wiki Wilks played 44 times for us, and Kane 38.
Large parts of the season.?
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Surely you don’t need to look up on wiki that for a good portion of the middle of last season we were without Kane.
Even if it was only 9/10 games the point is we coped without him, and results weren’t effected because we had more than adequate replacements
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The point being you put your squad together as we did last year and then you make loan signings in addition.
This season we’ve used loan players to make up the squad, without them we’re struggling massively.
For large parts of last season we played without Kane and Wilks yet our performances or results didn’t deteriorate. This season our loan players are missing and we go from very good form to very poor form. Because we’re too reliant on them, we’ve nothing else.
Look at the state of our bench.
Last year the bench was full of experienced players this year it’s full of kids who’ve never played a game before
If Marquis and Wilks were both out at the same time last season, who would have replaced them?
I’ve no idea,
But even when both were fit they didn’t start every game together, as we had other options.
Wilks was never played as an out an out striker last season, he’s a similar player to Ennis and Stirling best used to support the main striker, it’s just this season we don’t have one
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The point being you put your squad together as we did last year and then you make loan signings in addition.
This season we’ve used loan players to make up the squad, without them we’re struggling massively.
For large parts of last season we played without Kane and Wilks yet our performances or results didn’t deteriorate. This season our loan players are missing and we go from very good form to very poor form. Because we’re too reliant on them, we’ve nothing else.
Look at the state of our bench.
Last year the bench was full of experienced players this year it’s full of kids who’ve never played a game before
If Marquis and Wilks were both out at the same time last season, who would have replaced them?
I’ve no idea,
But even when both were fit they didn’t start every game together, as we had other options.
Wilks was never played as an out an out striker last season, he’s a similar player to Ennis and Stirling best used to support the main striker, it’s just this season we don’t have one
What were the 'other options' then?
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Well for instance we played Plymouth without marquis and played, Rowe further forward alongside Wilks and coppinger.
We also still had smith and May on the bench.
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Surely you don’t need to look up on wiki that for a good portion of the middle of last season we were without Kane.
Even if it was only 9/10 games the point is we coped without him, and results weren’t effected because we had more than adequate replacements
Your point was we were without Kane AND Wilks for large parts of the season.? The stats say we were not. I used wiki as it was quick and easy..
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We were without Kane for a significant period yes around 9/10 successive games if I recall correctly and Wilks went through a period where he was in and out of the side.
Anyhow the point was we had a good enough squad to cope, now we don’t.
Look at the bench I can’t understand why you’re arguing otherwise
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We were without Kane for a significant period yes around 9/10 successive games if I recall correctly and Wilks went through a period where he was in and out of the side.
Anyhow the point was we had a good enough squad to cope, now we don’t.
Look at the bench I can’t understand why you’re arguing otherwise
I’m not..
Initially on this thread I was questioning your knowledge on the internal workings of the club regarding contracts..
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I’ve know knowledge
Copps said only last week he hadn’t been offered a contract yet, sadlier the week before.
Now I’m sure they aren’t making it up
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I’ve know knowledge
Copps said only last week he hadn’t been offered a contract yet, sadlier the week before.
Now I’m sure they aren’t making it up
Although as you've already admitted, that's two out of all the players facing a contract renewal, with no knowledge of how the club approaches these negotiations, or in what order.
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Ok cocker
You seem to be delighted at the current situation.
There’s others on here stating exactly what I am but for some reason you are only commenting on my posts.
Odd
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Ok cocker
You seem to be delighted at the current situation.
There’s others on here stating exactly what I am but for some reason you are only commenting on my posts.
Odd
Well I've not said I'm happy with the current situation in any way, shape or form, I'm not just commenting on your posts, and I'm only outlining what you yourself have said previously.
Apart from that, entirely right in what you've said.
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Your constant defending of the state of the squad and the lack of signings in the summer says otherwise.
Have you and Chris black is back ever been seen in the same room together
I doubt it
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Again, I've said nothing about the state of the current squad, or the summer signings or that I'm happy with either.
Implying I'm another forum user comes across as a bit desperate.
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I know,
You’ve said very little of your own opinion, very little indeed.
Just every time i voice mine you disagree with it
Tell us what you think rather than saying what you don’t think all the time
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I know,
You’ve said very little of your own opinion, very little indeed.
Just every time i voice mine you disagree with it
Tell us what you think rather than saying what you don’t think all the time
I think the last bit's impossible as I'd have to think of something that I wasn't thinking about to not say it, but I'll give it a try. Anything to be helpful.
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It’s just all a bit odd, disagreeing with everything I say but never giving any reasons why you disagree or never giving your own thoughts
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It’s just all a bit odd, disagreeing with everything I say but never giving any reasons why you disagree or never giving your own thoughts
I quite fancy cup of tea.
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Do you take sugar.?
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Do you take sugar.?
Not as a general rule, although if someone puts it in I don't mind.
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I was hoping you would say “no thanks Turkish, I’m sweet enough”
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I was hoping you would say “no thanks Turkish, I’m sweet enough”
Ahhh...gotcha now.
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There’s certainly some strange folk on here
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It’s a quote from Snatch.. lighten up man..