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Title: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Dabby on December 29, 2019, 02:01:18 pm
Todays Team ..

(https://i.imgur.com/nRVqMrL.jpg)
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: eastender on December 29, 2019, 02:05:41 pm
They've gone very defensive with 3 CB's and 2 defensive midfielders.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: firestarter on December 29, 2019, 02:06:34 pm
Their fans are fuming with the defensive selection .. we need to be at them from
The start
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: donny dave on December 29, 2019, 02:20:53 pm
I like the look of that.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: dknward2 on December 29, 2019, 02:35:08 pm
Them parking the bus then hopefully we can get an early goal and make them come at us
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: arkseyrover on December 29, 2019, 02:53:19 pm
Just hope they don't park the bus and then catch us with a sucker counter punch. We need to be vigilant and not get caught out.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Metalmicky on December 29, 2019, 03:08:35 pm
0:1
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 29, 2019, 03:09:52 pm
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 03:10:01 pm
Quickly taken free kick and an unstoppable curler by Gooch..
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Metalmicky on December 29, 2019, 03:19:15 pm
Looks like we have started slow - any signs of improvement?
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 03:22:36 pm
Second best really - not quite getting our passing going..
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: The Mighty Brian Rowe on December 29, 2019, 03:22:45 pm
No. Could easily be 3 down.
No midfield. They're pressing us and we can't cope.

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Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 03:29:27 pm
We are not winning the second ball..

Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Metalmicky on December 29, 2019, 03:38:21 pm
Come on Donny....
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Metalmicky on December 29, 2019, 03:42:15 pm
1:1
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 03:42:24 pm
Taylor.!!!
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: ian1980 on December 29, 2019, 03:43:10 pm
Quick fast break and 1-1 (Taylor)
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Drover on December 29, 2019, 03:43:25 pm
Get in there 👋👋👋👋
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on December 29, 2019, 03:43:44 pm
That being pressed is somehow consistently our weakness. Needs sorting out. Coffee at half time.
 Meanwhile, Super Taylor to the rescue, he's never asleep  :woohoo:
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: les@donr on December 29, 2019, 03:47:47 pm
Good morning everyone, hope getting level is a sign of better things to come, we can win this game.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Metalmicky on December 29, 2019, 03:50:13 pm
HT
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Dabby on December 29, 2019, 03:50:37 pm
Rovers Goal

https://imgur.com/ekCPRD5
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 03:52:32 pm
Can’t tell from the SS but there’s been quite a few offsides which looked close on our breaks..

Need to be stronger second half.. get our attacks going..

Two cracking goals in all honesty, theirs a great strike and ours a fast team move..
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: southwestexile on December 29, 2019, 03:53:41 pm
Thanks for link. That’s a great goal. The kind I’ve been watching us concede for years but rarely seen us get ourselves. Sunderland must be there for the taking now
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Drover on December 29, 2019, 03:54:41 pm
Great first time cross from Sads
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 29, 2019, 03:56:12 pm
So, do we deserve to be level at HT?...or maybe in front? BBC gives possession to us at 55:45%
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Copps is Magic on December 29, 2019, 03:58:27 pm
So, do we deserve to be level at HT?...or maybe in front? BBC gives possession to us at 55:45%

We've been second best.

Sunderland have pressed us high, but I don't think they can keep that intesnsity up all game.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 03:59:01 pm
We deserve to be level because we took that chance..

On the game itself, we are a little behind in performance terms. 0-1 or 1-2 at HT wouldn’t have been unjustified..

We need to up our game 2nd half.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on December 29, 2019, 03:59:27 pm
Thanks for the goal vid  :thumbsup:

Good move by us, ace pass from Copps, then Sads, and Taylor unmarked - terrible defending.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: firestarter on December 29, 2019, 04:00:22 pm
Feel like we are showing them to much respect . We aren’t in their faces and stamping our authority in them as a home aide should .Our movement has been poor and not nearly enough runs off the ball . Big second half needed . Come on Rovers 💪
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: adamtherover on December 29, 2019, 04:00:28 pm
The tide was very slowly starting to turn just before ht, let's hope we come out all guns blazing, a quick early goal and their heads might drop..   
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: adamtherover on December 29, 2019, 04:02:01 pm
Every ball now should go through Taylor. Their big lump is on a yellow, pressure him into making rash challenges.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2019, 04:04:44 pm
First 15-20 mins we were very poor. The goal was a poor goal, we fell asleep.
Last 15 mins or so we came more into the game,
The messing about at the back is hard to watch
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 29, 2019, 04:05:15 pm
So, do we deserve to be level at HT?...or maybe in front? BBC gives possession to us at 55:45%

We've been second best.

Sunderland have pressed us high, but I don't think they can keep that intesnsity up all game.
We deserve to be level because we took that chance..

On the game itself, we are a little behind in performance terms. 0-1 or 1-2 at HT wouldn’t have been unjustified..

We need to up our game 2nd half.

Thanks, Copps i M and IDM!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 29, 2019, 04:07:08 pm
BTW, Sunderland’s forum already has 570 comments...just saying!.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 29, 2019, 04:11:47 pm
First 15-20 mins we were very poor. The goal was a poor goal, we fell asleep.
Last 15 mins or so we came more into the game,
The messing about at the back is hard to watch

“Their goal was poor.” Really? Apparently, it was a superb free kick, and unstoppable! Just repeating what I’ve read!
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 04:16:04 pm
Their goal came from a quick free kick - short pass to Gooch who curled it in..
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on December 29, 2019, 04:17:14 pm
BTW, Sunderland’s forum already has 570 comments...just saying!.
Mainly discussing leek planting and whippet breeding.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 29, 2019, 04:19:18 pm
What happened to Metalmickey’s post saying that we were winning 2-1?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 29, 2019, 04:20:24 pm
BTW, Sunderland’s forum already has 570 comments...just saying!.
Mainly discussing leek planting and whippet breeding.

😀
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Metalmicky on December 29, 2019, 04:21:29 pm
1:2
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Copps is Magic on December 29, 2019, 04:23:13 pm
Poor from Halliday that. Very poor.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Ye-Aul-Tavern on December 29, 2019, 04:24:15 pm
Livescore had we went 2-1 up before it changed to us being 2-1 down??
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 04:25:02 pm
Well they were wrong..
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Metalmicky on December 29, 2019, 04:27:13 pm
Come on Donny...
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Dabby on December 29, 2019, 04:30:22 pm
There Second goal

https://imgur.com/zXGtiIy
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: char on December 29, 2019, 04:30:52 pm
Not one to grumble but we are down to 16th and I don’t have high hopes for the oxford game after the last time we played them. Hopefully we can pull it together and at least get a draw.


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Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: southwestexile on December 29, 2019, 04:32:46 pm
Poo
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: ScillyRover on December 29, 2019, 04:39:38 pm
Gomes is dreadful. Too weak, not enough awareness, slows the game down too much.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 04:41:40 pm
Looks like John pulled up there.. could be cramp.?

Disagree on Gomes.. not brilliant, but certainly not dreadful..
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 04:42:09 pm
Thomas on for John..
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on December 29, 2019, 04:45:44 pm
Thomas on for John..

Going for it!  :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Metalmicky on December 29, 2019, 04:47:17 pm
Thomas on for John..

Going for it!  :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: ScillyRover on December 29, 2019, 04:47:59 pm
Gomes totally naive ... fouling on edge of box when absolutely no need.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: Copps is Magic on December 29, 2019, 04:48:28 pm
We're no where near unfortunately. They are all over us.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2019, 04:51:42 pm
First 15-20 mins we were very poor. The goal was a poor goal, we fell asleep.
Last 15 mins or so we came more into the game,
The messing about at the back is hard to watch

“Their goal was poor.” Really? Apparently, it was a superb free kick, and unstoppable! Just repeating what I’ve read!

Yes very poor
Took a quick free kick to gooch who turned, ran with it and shot.

We’ve created nothing at all
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 04:53:34 pm
f**k off created nothing..

We are second best today but to say we have done nothing is absurd..
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2019, 04:54:50 pm
It’s injury time and we’re passing around On the edge of our own box.

Sunderland haven’t scored away from home under Parkinson yet today they could’ve had 5
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2019, 04:55:34 pm
f**k off created nothing..

We are second best today but to say we have done nothing is absurd..

We’ve created nothing
Other than the goal what else have we created?
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: hamiltonrover on December 29, 2019, 04:55:48 pm
Frustrating as hell, made worse by listening to Peter Catt, the guy just makes random noises.

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Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 29, 2019, 04:56:08 pm
We have had very little penetration or urgency. Sunderland have harried and pressed very well.

Lynch should have been off though after going through the back of Ennis and already on a yellow.

Ozturk should have been off for deliberate handball.

But we’ve been very, very poor.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: les@donr on December 29, 2019, 04:57:59 pm
Disappointing, move on.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: ScillyRover on December 29, 2019, 04:58:27 pm
Deserved nothing from that game. Offered very little creativity, needless fouls conceded, outmuscled, out thought and out fought.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 29, 2019, 05:00:17 pm
We lost last season 1 0 so there’s no difference.
January is round the corner loans, frees or even buying one let’s hope we can get better players.
Rotherham beat Peterborough 4. 0 so it shows how good they were.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: bpoolrover on December 29, 2019, 05:00:58 pm
Disappointing performance same goes for the subs, why take copps of even thou didn’t do much and leave Gomes on, Gomes breaks play up but can’t head or pass
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 05:01:49 pm
Hard to say we were very poor when we didn’t have enough of the ball, with Sunderland playing better..

Yes we weren’t at our best but that was due to the opposition in part..

And yes Dickos, I take issue with your use of “nothing” - an unnecessary exaggeration but typical of you of course..

We were second best, that’s all..
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2019, 05:07:02 pm
I said we created nothing
We didn’t
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 05:13:06 pm
And you were wrong..

We didn’t create ENOUGH..  it’s your kind of exaggeration that really makes my piss boil.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2019, 05:28:34 pm
It’s fine to disagree
I don’t think I’m wrong
Other than the goal what chances did we create?
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 05:43:20 pm
Taylor’s near miss in the first half..,.

A coupe of tame headers by Sadlier..

Plus a couple of others..

Not enough, but more than you imply..
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2019, 05:46:51 pm
There was just no urgency to our game at all, we were losing and in the last 15 mins we never showed anything at all.
We need someone to help ennis and we need someone to help whiteman.
Taylor was our best player today
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 05:52:22 pm
A much more reasoned view..
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2019, 06:13:26 pm
I’ve calmed down a tad
But I still stand by the point I made that we created nothing other than the goal.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2019, 06:24:21 pm
What about the examples I gave, especially Taylor’s.?

Also the second half shot which their keeper parried but Ennis couldn’t quite finish following up.?
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2019, 08:04:48 pm
...and the superb cross across goal from Copps that Sadlier just missed.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: StocktonRover on December 29, 2019, 08:38:51 pm
And the one where Sadler turned the defender on the edge of the box and shot to the bottom corner with their keeper getting down smartly to tip it away?
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2019, 08:48:57 pm
And the one where Sadler turned the defender on the edge of the box and shot to the bottom corner with their keeper getting down smartly to tip it away?







That is the one that a IDM mentioned two posts up.
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2019, 12:01:25 am
What about the examples I gave, especially Taylor’s.?

Also the second half shot which their keeper parried but Ennis couldn’t quite finish following up.?

I can’t recall these and watching the highlights, Taylor and sadlier both had shots from outside the box and sadlier had a header that came through to him which he didn’t look like he expected it.

And that’s about it,
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 30, 2019, 12:09:57 pm
Taylor’s was a shade outside the post, and Sadlier’s was well saved and almost fell to Ennis on the rebound..

A few other crosses as mentioned including a couple of tame headers by Sadlier.

Ok not enough for our expectations, but nowhere near the “nothing apart from the goal” - do you see that now, and why your post provoked the reaction it did.?
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2019, 03:50:05 pm
Not really
Sadlier creates that chance with a brilliant turn and Taylor was also a bit of individual skill.

What I mean is we didn’t have any decent patterns of play in the final 3rd, no creative through balls, no quick incisive football.

We were laboured and even after they took the lead and you’d think we’d be throwing the kitchen sink at them.
We didn’t, in fact in injury time we were still fannying about with it inside our own box
Title: Re: Rovers v Sunderland
Post by: IDM on December 30, 2019, 05:23:53 pm
To be honest Dickos, your second paragraph is reasonably accurate but that isn’t what you said yesterday..