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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: 5 on Tour on January 10, 2020, 08:47:00 am
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Not sure if this on another topic so if it is apologies.
Sadlier’s contract situation reads that we have made an offer and he/his agent hasn’t come back to us. To me it seems like he is waiting to see if other offers come in. Hull and the Snakey one have talked about making a move. I wonder, hope not, if we are going to lose him to the decision above.
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If he stays all well and good, if he goes oh well, there is life after any player
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He needs to be careful,he is a very good player but he can also be very inconsistent as well and disappear in games.If he thinks the grass is greener then he might be in for a shock.No doubt his agent is pulling his string and telling him to wait.One of those that the longer it goes on,the more likely he will leave on a free when his contract expires..
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Or it may be that his representatives are trying to secure a better deal - we’ve made our offer so it’s kit of the club’s hands now..
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Hopefully it’s sorted soon, it would be very disappointing to lose him.
He’s a good player though and I can’t believe how often he is on the bench, be a big loss if he was to go so let’s hope he signs.
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What do any of us really know, but tone of that article suggests he is weighing up his options and him staying looks very far from certain.
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Or it may be that his representatives are trying to secure a better deal - we’ve made our offer so it’s kit of the club’s hands now..
What's it got to do with the clubs kit?
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Out of the club’s hands, auto correct..
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Not sure if this on another topic so if it is apologies.
Sadlier’s contract situation reads that we have made an offer and he/his agent hasn’t come back to us. To me it seems like he is waiting to see if other offers come in. Hull and the Snakey one have talked about making a move. I wonder, hope not, if we are going to lose him to the decision above.
It makes you wonder if a player who’s career has been launched and is scoring goals is struggling to commit, what does it say about the clubs over all contract strategy. We have players being let go , players brought in clearly not suitable for L1 and sitting on funds but won’t part with them ! DM must think he’s in the “Twilight Zone”.
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No, it’s you who lives in the twilight zone..
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Not sure if this on another topic so if it is apologies.
Sadlier’s contract situation reads that we have made an offer and he/his agent hasn’t come back to us. To me it seems like he is waiting to see if other offers come in. Hull and the Snakey one have talked about making a move. I wonder, hope not, if we are going to lose him to the decision above.
Danny Andrew got slated and was called a greedy so and so for something similar to this.
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No, it’s you who lives in the twilight zone..
You are always welcome to join me !!
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Let's not start jumping to conclusions.
This is part of negotiation.
I probably would not accept the first offer that came in.
I hope he stays.
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Not sure if this on another topic so if it is apologies.
Sadlier’s contract situation reads that we have made an offer and he/his agent hasn’t come back to us. To me it seems like he is waiting to see if other offers come in. Hull and the Snakey one have talked about making a move. I wonder, hope not, if we are going to lose him to the decision above.
Danny Andrew got slated and was called a greedy so and so for something similar to this.
When you say similar, it’s not really is it. If we are to believe Grant McCann (and it’s certainly the reason why Danny Andrew received criticism) then we made Andrew an offer that would make him one of the highest paid full backs in the league, and he continually gave assurances that he was about to sign, and then signed for Fleetwood. This doesn’t read like that to me.
Sadlier is our top scorer and I’d imagine also high up in the list of assists and chances created. He’s one of our best players and will still get better so we should be doing all we can to keep him.
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Not sure if this on another topic so if it is apologies.
Sadlier’s contract situation reads that we have made an offer and he/his agent hasn’t come back to us. To me it seems like he is waiting to see if other offers come in. Hull and the Snakey one have talked about making a move. I wonder, hope not, if we are going to lose him to the decision above.
Danny Andrew got slated and was called a greedy so and so for something similar to this.
When you say similar, it’s not really is it. If we are to believe Grant McCann (and it’s certainly the reason why Danny Andrew received criticism) then we made Andrew an offer that would make him one of the highest paid full backs in the league, and he continually gave assurances that he was about to sign, and then signed for Fleetwood. This doesn’t read like that to me.
Sadlier is our top scorer and I’d imagine also high up in the list of assists and chances created. He’s one of our best players and will still get better so we should be doing all we can to keep him.
I agree that we should try to keep him ,I haven’t said otherwise.
The story hasn’t yet run its course though.
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Hope he stays, but if he doesn't he's not irreplaceable
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It’s football, it’s the nature of the beast, not right in my eyes but the way it is. Sadlier is an attractive proposition because he will be available for free in July. If he had 2 years on his contract he could be worth 500k + , so other clubs will throw silly wages at him which we can’t match, it happens to Spurs, Arsenal, everyone, why should little old Donny Rovers with a less than half full stadium be any different. Let’s have some realism, too many cheap shots at the club !
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If there wasn’t interest in one of our best players and the current top scorer, I would be concerned.!!
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I'm not sure I would agree with that Beast,personally don't think he would command anywhere near that fee or have a list of clubs chasing him for silly money.He is a league 1 player currently struggling to hold down a first team spot in a mid table club..
In my opinion his agent has probably said to him that he has managed to get into the fringes of the Irish squad and if he wants to push on into it he will need to raise his profile.So his agent will be pushing him around championship clubs and seeing if he gets a bite,if not there is our deal to fall back on..
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Struggling to hold down a first team spot.?
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I'm not sure I would agree with that Beast,personally don't think he would command anywhere near that fee or have a list of clubs chasing him for silly money.He is a league 1 player currently struggling to hold down a first team spot in a mid table club..
In my opinion his agent has probably said to him that he has managed to get into the fringes of the Irish squad and if he wants to push on into it he will need to raise his profile.So his agent will be pushing him around championship clubs and seeing if he gets a bite,if not there is our deal to fall back on..
Or one particular club that ryhmes with dull, bull, full, gull, mull,cull,lull,null, pull..............................:-)
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I think he’s started 19 out of our 22 league games and has 8 league goals from that? Having played every minute of the recent Christmas fixtures I don’t think it’s particularly accurate to class him as struggling to hold down a first team place!
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Would be great to see this lad tied down to a longer term contract. He's a very good player for us.
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Hopefully not another danny Andrews.
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Hopefully not another danny Andrews.
How would he be? Andrews agreed the deal, said he'd be in to sign the paperwork on a couple of occasions, and then signed for Fleetwood instead.
But anyway, Andrews leaving enabled us to get a decent and more consistent full back in.
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I’d have James over Andrews so that worked out.
As long as this situation does I’m happy either way. I hope Sads stays as he’s great but if he leaves and we sign someone better then so be it.
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Hopefully not another danny Andrews.
How would he be? Andrews agreed the deal, said he'd be in to sign the paperwork on a couple of occasions, and then signed for Fleetwood instead.
But anyway, Andrews leaving enabled us to get a decent and more consistent full back in.
I ment by keeping us waiting and waiting then ends up flooding off
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Signing James from Sunderland cannot have been cheap given the wages you might imagine he was on there.
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Hope he stays, but if he doesn't he's not irreplaceable
Dead right Bezza, but who do we replace him with? At the moment we can't even replace Thomas and Bingham with any f*cker.
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I know this is a thread about Sadlier but since Reece James has been brought up...
.... what a good signing this lad was. The only thing he lacks which Andrew has is a threat at set-pieces, but his general play and his defensive ability is better than Andrew's.
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This season he’s scoring at a rate of just under a goal every other game and he’s adjusted to the system that we want to play in. I don’t think people should be getting blasé about that. It would be potentially costly and disruptive to replace. If we were linked with signing a player at his age and with that strike rate at this level then we’d all be getting excited about it. And the club would have to be preparing to shell out a lot of money.
Said all season that Whiteman, Anderson and Sadlier had to be priorities to secure on longer contracts. We’ve got two done and hopefully we’ll get the third.
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Sadlier has started all but three of our games this season (four including the cup) and he's been subbed on in every one of those. So why some are saying he doesn't hold down a place is beyond me.
For me, we should have got him tied down to a deal earlier in the season as he is our top scorer and we face losing him for nothing. He was brought in for free on an 18 month deal and is now surely worth a fair bit. I hope he signs but it's another thing to be mindful with as the season progresses.
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Sadlier has started all but three of our games this season (four including the cup) and he's been subbed on in every one of those. So why some are saying he doesn't hold down a place is beyond me.
For me, we should have got him tied down to a deal earlier in the season as he is our top scorer and we face losing him for nothing. He was brought in for free on an 18 month deal and is now surely worth a fair bit. I hope he signs but it's another thing to be mindful with as the season progresses.
Not if he doesn't want to be tied down and has eyes for another
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Hopefully not another danny Andrews.
How would he be? Andrews agreed the deal, said he'd be in to sign the paperwork on a couple of occasions, and then signed for Fleetwood instead.
But anyway, Andrews leaving enabled us to get a decent and more consistent full back in.
I ment by keeping us waiting and waiting then ends up flooding off
In that case then yes I agree with you.
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What does DM do if Stadlier says he’s happy to leave in the Summer , should he still select him over any new player coming in !
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He selects the best players he thinks will win each game, on merit..
If Sadlier looks to leave in the summer he needs to be in the shop window, and meanwhile if he performs for us, all the better.
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No pace...little work rate...a couple of limited tricks...little in the way of creativity...poor positioning...skips tackles...erratic passing...not for me thanks.
He can hit a ball for sure, resulting in the odd impressive goal, but only a small percentage of attempts actually go in. Most of the time he’s a dead end for a move.
I see him as a squad player.
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Each to their own, but I reckon a few might disagree..
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I’m sure others will disagree, but that’s the beauty of a forum to discuss such matters.
I really have been disappointed with him this season though.
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Just a little aside.
Two more of our players whose names are spelled incorrectly.
Andrews and Stadlier.
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Just a little aside.
Two more of our players whose names are spelled incorrectly.
Andrews and Stadlier.
Well, one of our players and one of our former players ;)
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I’m sure others will disagree, but that’s the beauty of a forum to discuss such matters.
I really have been disappointed with him this season though.
Why ? after all he is the only one that’s scoring . He contributes a fair amount with his passing and running off the ball creating space for others to run into .
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I’m sure others will disagree, but that’s the beauty of a forum to discuss such matters.
I really have been disappointed with him this season though.
Why ? after all he is the only one that’s scoring goal . He contributes a fair amount with his passing and running off the ball creating space for others to run into .
The only one scoring a goal?
Really?
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Just a little aside.
Two more of our players whose names are spelled incorrectly.
Andrews and Stadlier.
And another - listening to iFollow on Tuesday has left me wondering whether Waters is the new Sharpe, Ostler or McGammon. 😀
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I’m sure others will disagree, but that’s the beauty of a forum to discuss such matters.
I really have been disappointed with him this season though.
Why ? after all he is the only one that’s scoring goal . He contributes a fair amount with his passing and running off the ball creating space for others to run into .
The only one scoring a goal?
Really?
your Pathetic he’s the only one scoring regularly !
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I’m sure others will disagree, but that’s the beauty of a forum to discuss such matters.
I really have been disappointed with him this season though.
Why ? after all he is the only one that’s scoring goal . He contributes a fair amount with his passing and running off the ball creating space for others to run into .
The only one scoring a goal?
Really?
your Pathetic he’s the only one scoring regularly !
You missed “regularly” from your earlier post sir.
Why the anger in your reply?
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No pace...little work rate...a couple of limited tricks...little in the way of creativity...poor positioning...skips tackles...erratic passing...not for me thanks.
He can hit a ball for sure, resulting in the odd impressive goal, but only a small percentage of attempts actually go in. Most of the time he’s a dead end for a move.
This is a joke, surely? Along with Coppinger he links the play better than anyone at the club and covers a hell of a lot of ground down that left side. I love watching him play as he makes things happen. If we lose him (and I hope we don’t) then I suspect it will be to a bigger club.
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Just a little aside.
Two more of our players whose names are spelled incorrectly.
Andrews and Stadlier.
The most unforgivable must be Alick (I’ve even seen Alec) Jeffries!
Together with Ian Snowden, Alan Worboys & Peter Docherty!
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Just a little aside.
Two more of our players whose names are spelled incorrectly.
Andrews and Stadlier.
We could sign a player named Dave Smith and people would still spell his name wrong on here. No player seemingly is exempt.
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No pace...little work rate...a couple of limited tricks...little in the way of creativity...poor positioning...skips tackles...erratic passing...not for me thanks.
He can hit a ball for sure, resulting in the odd impressive goal, but only a small percentage of attempts actually go in. Most of the time he’s a dead end for a move.
This is a joke, surely? Along with Coppinger he links the play better than anyone at the club and covers a hell of a lot of ground down that left side. I love watching him play as he makes things happen. If we lose him (and I hope we don’t) then I suspect it will be to a bigger club.
No joke at all, we obviously see very different things...isn’t that the joy of football and the debate that surrounds it?
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He is the ending of many attacks though, as he either checks back due to lack of pace/tricks or loses the ball.
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The thing with Sadlier, he is improving there is a lot more to come from him, he struggled to get through games at one time, now you can see his improved fitness,
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He is the ending of many attacks though, as he either checks back due to lack of pace/tricks or loses the ball.
Alternatively, he’s been at the right end of the attacks on 9 occasions this season, twice at Peterborough when they were on 2nd place before the game..
Yes, Sadlier hasn’t always been at his best but he has a scoring and assisting talent which can come out at any time..
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Plenty more to come from Sadlier.
He is probably not playing in what will be his best position.
Can see him doing the Copps role eventually.
Very talented footballer not the quickest in terms of pace but footballers come in various guises.
Don’t think Copps would be described even 10 years ago as quick.
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Re: ending attacks, I just don’t see that. In fact quite the opposite. And I don’t just mean subjectively, but if you look at the stats the evidence is clear. More goals than any other player, more assists (alongside Coppinger) than any other player. And just taking the other night’s game as an example, I think pretty much every chance we created came through him. All attacking players will lose the ball on occasion by taking risks (it happened to Coppinger multiple times the other night) but if we’re talking efficiency and productivity in the final third the we’ve nobody else even close to Sadlier. So I just don’t get the argument of attacks breaking down with him at all.
Hypothetically speaking, if today we were linked with an attacking player that’s 25 years old and topping the goalscoring and assists chart for his club in this division then everyone would be getting hugely excited on here! Let’s focus on keeping hold of our own so we don’t have to shell out the kind of fee it would cost to replace that contribution.
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At the third division level you will always have inconsistencies as players and mistakes from now and then. Some people will highlight those times more that the good things a player may bring..
If these talented players were more consistent playing at their best, they would be at a higher level.
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He is the ending of many attacks though, as he either checks back due to lack of pace/tricks or loses the ball.
No player in the squad, Coppinger included, has made more assists than Sadlier.
Top scorer
Top assists.
What precisely do you want?
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Just a little aside.
Two more of our players whose names are spelled incorrectly.
Andrews and Stadlier.
We could sign a player named Dave Smith and people would still spell his name wrong on here. No player seemingly is exempt.
Would that be Dave Smiff 😂
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I cannot get my head around some of our fans and forum users.
Top goal scorer, most assists, relatively young... he’s one of the better players in the division.
The people slating him now and saying he’s average are probably the same ones who said we wouldn’t miss Marquis.
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I cannot get my head around some of our fans and forum users.
Top goal scorer, most assists, relatively young... he’s one of the better players in the division.
The people slating him now and saying he’s average are probably the same ones who said we wouldn’t miss Marquis.
Yes, quite.
It’s very clear that you are unable to comprehend that people might hold a contrary view. It seems you are perfectly able to make huge judgements without any evidence though.
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I cannot get my head around some of our fans and forum users.
Top goal scorer, most assists, relatively young... he’s one of the better players in the division.
The people slating him now and saying he’s average are probably the same ones who said we wouldn’t miss Marquis.
Yes, quite.
It’s very clear that you are unable to comprehend that people might hold a contrary view. It seems you are perfectly able to make huge judgements without any evidence though.
You've just had the evidence from BST.
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Re: ending attacks, I just don’t see that. In fact quite the opposite. And I don’t just mean subjectively, but if you look at the stats the evidence is clear. More goals than any other player, more assists (alongside Coppinger) than any other player. And just taking the other night’s game as an example, I think pretty much every chance we created came through him. All attacking players will lose the ball on occasion by taking risks (it happened to Coppinger multiple times the other night) but if we’re talking efficiency and productivity in the final third the we’ve nobody else even close to Sadlier. So I just don’t get the argument of attacks breaking down with him at all.
Hypothetically speaking, if today we were linked with an attacking player that’s 25 years old and topping the goalscoring and assists chart for his club in this division then everyone would be getting hugely excited on here! Let’s focus on keeping hold of our own so we don’t have to shell out the kind of fee it would cost to replace that contribution.
Those stats aren’t necessarily reflective of how efficient he is or how many attacks end with him. It simply means he takes some of them.
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I cannot get my head around some of our fans and forum users.
Top goal scorer, most assists, relatively young... he’s one of the better players in the division.
The people slating him now and saying he’s average are probably the same ones who said we wouldn’t miss Marquis.
Yes, quite.
It’s very clear that you are unable to comprehend that people might hold a contrary view. It seems you are perfectly able to make huge judgements without any evidence though.
You've just had the evidence from BST.
My point was that he has made an assumption that I said things about Marquis without any evidence or knowledge about me.
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Re: ending attacks, I just don’t see that. In fact quite the opposite. And I don’t just mean subjectively, but if you look at the stats the evidence is clear. More goals than any other player, more assists (alongside Coppinger) than any other player. And just taking the other night’s game as an example, I think pretty much every chance we created came through him. All attacking players will lose the ball on occasion by taking risks (it happened to Coppinger multiple times the other night) but if we’re talking efficiency and productivity in the final third the we’ve nobody else even close to Sadlier. So I just don’t get the argument of attacks breaking down with him at all.
Hypothetically speaking, if today we were linked with an attacking player that’s 25 years old and topping the goalscoring and assists chart for his club in this division then everyone would be getting hugely excited on here! Let’s focus on keeping hold of our own so we don’t have to shell out the kind of fee it would cost to replace that contribution.
Those stats aren’t necessarily reflective of how efficient he is or how many attacks end with him. It simply means he takes some of them.
So. As I asked. Just what do you want from a player at Tier 3 level?
Goals, assists AND faultless decision making?
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Let’s see where we are at the end of the season.
But I’m sure you’ll be right...PEOPLE WHO USE CAPITALS ALWAYS ARE!!!
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Headline output stats are not indicative of efficiency, the two are very different. My point is all about the former.
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We won today, and Sadlier was in the team..
You don't rate him, but most of us do.
There’s nothing else to add at the moment is there.?
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Headline output stats are not indicative of efficiency, the two are very different. My point is all about the former.
I don’t really want to get dragged into semantics here, but after you said you think he doesn’t put enough work in (I completely disagree on that by the way) but then admitted he’s been our most productive player (which he has) then surely by its very definition that makes him particularly efficient!
Anyhow the argument is pointless. For me he’s one of the best players at the club, and if we can get him tied down on a new contract then we have the nucleus of a very good team that we’re building. New contracts for our defensive rock, captain and top scorer would represent a positive statement of intent from the club in anyone’s book, surely.
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Want Sads nailed into a extension as soon as possible. IMO he could be anything.... big future I think
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Headline output stats are not indicative of efficiency, the two are very different. My point is all about the former.
I don’t really want to get dragged into semantics here, but after you said you think he doesn’t put enough work in (I completely disagree on that by the way) but then admitted he’s been our most productive player (which he has) then surely by its very definition that makes him particularly efficient!
Anyhow the argument is pointless. For me he’s one of the best players at the club, and if we can get him tied down on a new contract then we have the nucleus of a very good team that we’re building. New contracts for our defensive rock, captain and top scorer would represent a positive statement of intent from the club in anyone’s book, surely.
I don’t want to get dragged in to semantics either, but you are conflating two separate points.
I believe that he ducks tackles and doesn’t work hard enough, and that he’s inefficient/not productive enough. I do not disagree that his headline stats are good.
To clarify my point, if you have a salesman that you give 100 leads to and he converts 9, is that more productive/efficient than a salesman who converts 8 of 10 leads that you give to him?
That’s why Andy Cole never played for England more.
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Headline output stats are not indicative of efficiency, the two are very different. My point is all about the former.
I don’t really want to get dragged into semantics here, but after you said you think he doesn’t put enough work in (I completely disagree on that by the way) but then admitted he’s been our most productive player (which he has) then surely by its very definition that makes him particularly efficient!
Anyhow the argument is pointless. For me he’s one of the best players at the club, and if we can get him tied down on a new contract then we have the nucleus of a very good team that we’re building. New contracts for our defensive rock, captain and top scorer would represent a positive statement of intent from the club in anyone’s book, surely.
By the way, it’s a conversation rather than an argument.
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Headline output stats are not indicative of efficiency, the two are very different. My point is all about the former.
I don’t really want to get dragged into semantics here, but after you said you think he doesn’t put enough work in (I completely disagree on that by the way) but then admitted he’s been our most productive player (which he has) then surely by its very definition that makes him particularly efficient!
Anyhow the argument is pointless. For me he’s one of the best players at the club, and if we can get him tied down on a new contract then we have the nucleus of a very good team that we’re building. New contracts for our defensive rock, captain and top scorer would represent a positive statement of intent from the club in anyone’s book, surely.
I don’t want to get dragged in to semantics either, but you are conflating two separate points.
I believe that he ducks tackles and doesn’t work hard enough, and that he’s inefficient/not productive enough. I do not disagree that his headline stats are good.
To clarify my point, if you have a salesman that you give 100 leads to and he converts 9, is that more productive/efficient than a salesman who converts 8 of 10 leads that you give to him?
Yes in terms of football as the sales would be the equivalent to goals and they win games. And really...many of those "leads/chances" are self generated.
He puts himself on the line body wise...did you see the punch to the face he took from a GK recently...looked fairly concussed and still scored 2 a few days later.
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I can’t argue about the fact that Sads does duck tackles.
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I feel that he can really develop and have a good future in the game. My only nagging doubt is his self-belief and does he want it enough.
He gives 100% there's potentially a good player in there.
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I feel that he can really develop and have a good future in the game. My only nagging doubt is his self-belief and does he want it enough.
He gives 100% there's potentially a good player in there.
I agree idler, he could become very good indeed.
There is “something” missing though.
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That is my worry hound.
If he finds it then he can really kick on. Maybe he needs to speak to Copps.
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He has improved since joining the club and would be even better if he worked harder, tracked back, tackled. However, he maybe looking towards some time on the bench if we get a loan striker as Ennis will move to left side wide with Taylor on the right. Let him go for a fee if he does not want to sign a new contract.
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I feel that he can really develop and have a good future in the game. My only nagging doubt is his self-belief and does he want it enough.
He gives 100% there's potentially a good player in there.
I agree idler, he could become very good indeed.
There is “something” missing though.
Has he ever has a bad injury?
The reason I ask is he definitely pulls out of challenges that he could win. Almost like a player who has had a bad experience at one point.
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I feel that he can really develop and have a good future in the game. My only nagging doubt is his self-belief and does he want it enough.
He gives 100% there's potentially a good player in there.
I agree idler, he could become very good indeed.
There is “something” missing though.
According to you that is of course lol!
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I feel that he can really develop and have a good future in the game. My only nagging doubt is his self-belief and does he want it enough.
He gives 100% there's potentially a good player in there.
I agree idler, he could become very good indeed.
There is “something” missing though.
According to you that is of course lol!
New Donny, you really do need to chill out whenever someone says something you don’t like about your man.
We are quick to praise him for the good games and good things.
Like all players, he doesn’t have a blinder every week.
You say “according to you” in response to my point but according to you he does NO wrong at all and that can’t be right.
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We won. Can’t we all just get along?
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I don’t think anyone is falling out here, just grown ups exchanging opinions.
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I feel that he can really develop and have a good future in the game. My only nagging doubt is his self-belief and does he want it enough.
He gives 100% there's potentially a good player in there.
I agree idler, he could become very good indeed.
There is “something” missing though.
According to you that is of course lol!
New Donny, you really do need to chill out whenever someone says something you don’t like about your man.
We are quick to praise him for the good games and good things.
Like all players, he doesn’t have a blinder every week.
You say “according to you” in response to my point but according to you he does NO wrong at all and that can’t be right.
I'm actually winding you up hound, just the same as you've been chipping away at me these last couple of weeks, but I don't mind that, relax lol
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I feel that he can really develop and have a good future in the game. My only nagging doubt is his self-belief and does he want it enough.
He gives 100% there's potentially a good player in there.
I agree idler, he could become very good indeed.
There is “something” missing though.
According to you that is of course lol!
New Donny, you really do need to chill out whenever someone says something you don’t like about your man.
We are quick to praise him for the good games and good things.
Like all players, he doesn’t have a blinder every week.
You say “according to you” in response to my point but according to you he does NO wrong at all and that can’t be right.
I'm actually winding you up hound, just the same as you chipped away at me these last couple of weeks, I don't mind that, relax lol
Ok fair enough.
I have actually supported quite a few of your posts over the last few weeks, either with likes or posts.
👍🤭
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I feel that he can really develop and have a good future in the game. My only nagging doubt is his self-belief and does he want it enough.
He gives 100% there's potentially a good player in there.
I agree idler, he could become very good indeed.
There is “something” missing though.
According to you that is of course lol!
A 10% improvement could make all the difference. I do think that he is a good player but his body language and effort at times could just do with tweaking.
Look at the careers of Paul Green and Ricky Ravenhill to show what effort and commitment can do allied with a measure of skill.
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I feel that he can really develop and have a good future in the game. My only nagging doubt is his self-belief and does he want it enough.
He gives 100% there's potentially a good player in there.
I agree idler, he could become very good indeed.
There is “something” missing though.
According to you that is of course lol!
New Donny, you really do need to chill out whenever someone says something you don’t like about your man.
We are quick to praise him for the good games and good things.
Like all players, he doesn’t have a blinder every week.
You say “according to you” in response to my point but according to you he does NO wrong at all and that can’t be right.
I'm actually winding you up hound, just the same as you chipped away at me these last couple of weeks, I don't mind that, relax lol
Ok fair enough.
I have actually supported quite a few of your posts over the last few weeks, either with likes or posts.
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And I yours as well hound, your support has not gone unnoticed I assure you.👍
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Interesting debate this and he is an interesting player. I think hes a good player at this level, far from the level above yes, but good at this level and we would be weaker if we lost him.
I also dont blame him for thinking of s move. He has a short career and will want to do the best he can for himself, if I was him i would be waiting a while.before agreeing a new contract.
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He needs to give some serious thoughts to the possibility of sitting on the bench an awful lot, if he’s contemplating a Championship Club. Even JM has spent more time on Pompey’s bench than on the field and look what he achieved with us.
The grass, as they say, is not always greener!
If our upwardly mobile form continues, he could be going up with his teammates, anyway.
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He needs to give some serious thoughts to the possibility of sitting on the bench an awful lot, if he’s contemplating a Championship Club. Even JM has spent more time on Pompey’s bench than on the field and look what he achieved with us.
The grass, as they say, is not always greener!
If our upwardly mobile form continues, he could be going up with his teammates, anyway.
No idea why he should think that, he and others have a better understanding of his capabilities than you I suspect, if indeed that is what he is considering anyway and comparing him to Marquis sort of sums up your points if I am honest, they are two very, very different players that should never be compared.
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I’m not comparing them as players, but the situation.
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Thought Sads had a good game tonight - and bagged a couple of great goals to boot. Would really like the club/DM to sort out an contract extension for him....... preferably sooner rather than later... :scarf:
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Agreed on that MM but I have a horrible feeling that he will be looking to go elsewhere.
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I thought the club had sorted this but it’s uo to the player and his agent to agree, or not.?
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It’s got nothing to do with DM. It’s between the player, his agent and the CEO upwards.
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The way I see this is he was brought in as a bit of a punt from a spell in Ireland and certainly won't be one of the top earners. Hi stock has undoubtedly risen since then and if we were looking to sign a player under contract elsewhere with his record we'd be looking at high six-figure sums and a significant wage commitment. if we lose him for nothing it'll be gutting and we'll have to shell out to replace him.
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Let’s not forget he allowed his contract to run down in Ireland before we signed him so it’s nothing new to him or his representatives. He may want more than our wage structure will allow. He may want a longer contract or he he’s been tapped up so allowing his contract to run down. We’ll have wait and see.
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Let’s not forget he allowed his contract to run down in Ireland before we signed him so it’s nothing new to him or his representatives. He may want more than our wage structure will allow. He may want a longer contract or he he’s been tapped up so allowing his contract to run down. We’ll have wait and see.
I honestly think he’s going to run it down, like you say he’s got form for it already. If he does then so be it, nobody is irreplaceable. Just look at when we lost Andrew and how that’s turned out.
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Sadlier is one of our top performers though, Andrew to be honest rarely was and was often touted as our one weak link in the second half of last season.
I agree that no one is irreplaceable but we will really be missing out if we lose Sads for nothing. He is clearly a very talented player and deserves to be one of our top earners. I really hope we can get him signed on but the longer it runs on the more concerned you get.
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Sadlier is one of our top performers though, Andrew to be honest rarely was and was often touted as our one weak link in the second half of last season.
I agree that no one is irreplaceable but we will really be missing out if we lose Sads for nothing. He is clearly a very talented player and deserves to be one of our top earners. I really hope we can get him signed on but the longer it runs on the more concerned you get.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d be devastated if he did leave for nothing and I’m sure DM knows how valuable he is to the team. I’m sure we’ve offered him decent terms and it will solely be on him and his agent. Still think he’ll run it down though as players who don’t command a fee often get better wages when signing for a new team.
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It’s got nothing to do with DM. It’s between the player, his agent and the CEO upwards.
Completely and utterly wrong. It's everything to do with DM, he's the one who decides who he wants in his squad.
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Fair enough - BUT - an offer has been made (supposedly) so that means DM must want him?
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Fair enough - BUT - an offer has been made (supposedly) so that means DM must want him?
If talks have stalled then there could be any number of reasons why that is.
I'm just correcting your assertion that this has nothing to do with DM. DM will no doubt be heavily involved in contract extensions, much more so though than people realise.
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I appreciate that, Martin, but my original post was put there, knowing (or thinking that I knew) that we’d already made him an offer and we were waiting for him (Sadlier) and his representatives. Therefore, I had already assumed DM had made any decision he needed to make and it was then out of his hands. I didn’t think it needed correcting, as such.
Unless, of course, DM has a say in contract negotiations, in which case he will still have an influence.
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We have just brought in 2 new strikers. Who do you want Ronaldo & Messi?
Give me strength. Are you ever going to be happy with our recruitment Steve?
I said we would bring in 2/3 players and we have. What’s the problem?
I must have missed the second chap - when did he arrive....?
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I appreciate that, Martin, but my original post was put there, knowing (or thinking that I knew) that we’d already made him an offer and we were waiting for him (Sadlier) and his representatives. Therefore, I had already assumed DM had made any decision he needed to make and it was then out of his hands. I didn’t think it needed correcting, as such.
Unless, of course, DM has a say in contract negotiations, in which case he will still have an influence.
OK, but DM will always have a say because its his budget, to be spent how he sees fit. He wants value for money and will contribute to the decision making because of that.
It may well be that we've made him an offer, it may well be that him or his agent has dismissed that offer, or that he hasn't yet responded, but the response from the player will go back to DM and it will be him who decides if an increased offer is value for money, or maybe somebody else on Adam's list offers better.
We're just speculating until we hear differently, but DM will be central.
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Hope he stays, but if he doesn't he's not irreplaceable
Dead right Bezza, but who do we replace him with? At the moment we can't even replace Thomas and Bingham with any f*cker.
We have just brought in 2 new strikers. Who do you want Ronaldo & Messi?
Give me strength. Are you ever going to be happy with our recruitment Steve?
I said we would bring in 2/3 players and we have. What’s the problem?
His main problem is probably that he made that post three weeks ago?
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Hopefully he is offered a contract that reflects the progress he’s made in his time here, and his value to the club. We’re still in January and he’s already up to double figures in goals scored and one of the top assist makers too. If he’s promptly offered a contract that reflects his value then I’m confident he’ll stay. He’s already gone on record as saying how happy he is here.
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Hopefully he is offered a contract that reflects the progress he’s made in his time here, and his value to the club. We’re still in January and he’s already up to double figures in goals scored and one of the top assist makers too. If he’s promptly offered a contract that reflects his value then I’m confident he’ll stay. He’s already gone on record as saying how happy he is here.
How would you know we haven't already? It's the club that will decide his value in the overall scheme.
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Hopefully he is offered a contract that reflects the progress he’s made in his time here, and his value to the club. We’re still in January and he’s already up to double figures in goals scored and one of the top assist makers too. If he’s promptly offered a contract that reflects his value then I’m confident he’ll stay. He’s already gone on record as saying how happy he is here.
How would you know we haven't already? It's the club that will decide his value in the overall scheme.
I hope that we have.
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We have just brought in 2 new strikers. Who do you want Ronaldo & Messi?
Give me strength. Are you ever going to be happy with our recruitment Steve?
I said we would bring in 2/3 players and we have. What’s the problem?
I must have missed the second chap - when did he arrive....?
It was quoted on the other thread by dickos “deal is done” on Okenaberhie or however you spell is name. ;)
Announcement probably tomorrow?
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We have just brought in 2 new strikers. Who do you want Ronaldo & Messi?
Give me strength. Are you ever going to be happy with our recruitment Steve?
I said we would bring in 2/3 players and we have. What’s the problem?
I must have missed the second chap - when did he arrive....?
It was quoted on the other thread by dickos “deal is done” on Ikonaberie or however you spell is name. ;)
Announcement probably tomorrow?
I don’t understand why you have picked out a post that SS made on 10th January.
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We have just brought in 2 new strikers. Who do you want Ronaldo & Messi?
Give me strength. Are you ever going to be happy with our recruitment Steve?
I said we would bring in 2/3 players and we have. What’s the problem?
I must have missed the second chap - when did he arrive....?
It was quoted on the other thread by dickos “deal is done” on Ikonaberie or however you spell is name. ;)
Announcement probably tomorrow?
I don’t understand why you have picked out a post that SS made on 10th January.
My mistake hound I thought he posted it today. Will delete :headbang: thanks for telling me. :)
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If the club have offered him a contract that they deem is his value then he may want more, we don’t know. Let’s hope he’s not holding the club to ransom to achieve his aim. The clubs negotiating team will decide what’s best for the club. Whether supporters like it or not.
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Let’s not forget he allowed his contract to run down in Ireland before we signed him so it’s nothing new to him or his representatives. He may want more than our wage structure will allow. He may want a longer contract or he he’s been tapped up so allowing his contract to run down. We’ll have wait and see.
Your talking complete and utter rubbish Steve, you don’t know the lad, his agent or anything about his career in Ireland so you are in no position to comment. Anyway what do you care whether he stays or goes, you’ve never had a good word to say about the lad since the day he arrived at the club.
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If the club have offered him a contract that they deem is his value then he may want more, we don’t know. Let’s hope he’s not holding the club to ransom to achieve his aim. The clubs negotiating team will decide what’s best for the club. Whether supporters like it or not.
Agreed.
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This talk of holding the club to ransom is misplaced and completely baseless.
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He only said he hopes it isn't happening, Jonathan and I doubt anyone outside of the club will know if it is happening or not.
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He only said he hopes it isn't happening, Jonathan and I doubt anyone outside of the club will know if it is happening or not.
Steve said that the clubs negotiating team will be the best people to judge what's best for the club, that I agreed with.
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If the club have offered him a contract that they deem is his value then he may want more, we don’t know. Let’s hope he’s not holding the club to ransom to achieve his aim. The clubs negotiating team will decide what’s best for the club. Whether supporters like it or not.
Steve seemed displeased with Kieron's contribution at the final whistle when I saw him. Not sure why? the difference would of been 1 point instead of 3. Plus there aren't many players in the football league who can score goals like the first one. Keep up the good work and let's hope KSB gets the contract he deserves.
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He only said he hopes it isn't happening, Jonathan and I doubt anyone outside of the club will know if it is happening or not.
Steve said that the clubs negotiating team will be the best people to judge what's best for the club, that I agreed with.
Always the politician eh SM lol!
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He only said he hopes it isn't happening, Jonathan and I doubt anyone outside of the club will know if it is happening or not.
Steve said that the clubs negotiating team will be the best people to judge what's best for the club, that I agreed with.
Always the politician eh SM lol!
If you say so, but I guarantee you have no idea what I'm about, or what I do.
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If the club have offered him a contract that they deem is his value then he may want more, we don’t know. Let’s hope he’s not holding the club to ransom to achieve his aim. The clubs negotiating team will decide what’s best for the club. Whether supporters like it or not.
Steve seemed displeased with Kieron's contribution at the final whistle when I saw him. Not sure why? the difference would of been 1 point instead of 3. Plus there aren't many players in the football league who can score goals like the first one. Keep up the good work and let's hope KSB gets the contract he deserves.
Johnny you tried have go I just did the opposite it’s called Banter. Appears I’ve rattled your cage.😂😂
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If the club have offered him a contract that they deem is his value then he may want more, we don’t know. Let’s hope he’s not holding the club to ransom to achieve his aim. The clubs negotiating team will decide what’s best for the club. Whether supporters like it or not.
Steve seemed displeased with Kieron's contribution at the final whistle when I saw him. Not sure why? the difference would of been 1 point instead of 3. Plus there aren't many players in the football league who can score goals like the first one. Keep up the good work and let's hope KSB gets the contract he deserves.
Johnny you tried have go I just did the opposite it’s called Banter. Appears I’ve rattled your cage.😂😂
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Some snippets from the Freepress article about Sadliers contract situation. From these snippets I’d say he’s not going to be here next season. Would be great if he signs a new deal but I just get the impression he will be off :(
“If it’s with Doncaster or not, I see myself wanting to go as high as I can,”
“Whether it’s with Doncaster or not, I can’t tell, but it’s somewhere I’d like to go eventually in my career.“I could also stay if we’re pushing for promotion from League One and push for promotion next year.”
“I’m sure clubs have spoken to them,” he said.
“But when I speak to my agents I just rather they don’t tell me much.
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I would be astonished if most players didn’t want to play at the highest level they could get to.
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Sounds like he’s off to me.
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That’s not all the article though..
He’s basically saying he’s leaving everything to his agents and concentrating on playing.
He may well leave, but if he does that will be in summer with plenty of time to replace him..
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Sounds like a lot of speculation to me lol.
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Nothing really new in that article. If we don't get promoted and a Championship club comes knocking then he's likely to go but there's no surprise in that.
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He isn’t anywhere near ready for the Championship as a regular starter,..
Too slow, not overly physical, and can disappear for long periods..
I love him to bits for the positives he brings, but he needs a couple of years at this level to hone his weaknesses whilst enjoying long spells in the team.....
and no we aren’t getting promoted this year.......but next is not inconceivable...
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Oh and your the expert on when a players ready to play at a higher level are you?
So if we did get promotion this year Sadlier wouldn’t feature next year right lol?
Oh and let’s get one thing straight, he only disappears in games when we stop getting the ball to him.
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I still hope and think that he’ll stay here if we offer a deal that reflects his importance to the team - and his importance is without question. He’s been superb recently and is constantly improving too. Darren Moore wants him to stay, I believe he wants to stay, I just hope the club can reach a suitable agreement.
Some people go on about replacing him. I’m not aware of many wingers at this level that are two footed, decent in the air and get near the goals and assists return that Sadlier offers. Yes, we could replace him, but not with anybody as good or as productive so our efforts should be on keeping what we’ve got.
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I do hope he doesn't leave, that'll be another poster we've lost from the forum.
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He isn’t anywhere near ready for the Championship as a regular starter,..
Too slow, not overly physical, and can disappear for long periods..
I love him to bits for the positives he brings, but he needs a couple of years at this level to hone his weaknesses whilst enjoying long spells in the team.....
and no we aren’t getting promoted this year.......but next is not inconceivable...
Sads IS improving his game.
I especially took notice of his work rate when we didn’t have the ball against Bolton and Rochdale.
Whenever we lost the ball he made sure that he got back quickly into a position to help out defensively and there was one track back in particular when it looked as though the overlapping fullback was about to get a cross in and KS made a really good sliding challenge and not only won the ball but immediately turned and ran at the opposition.
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Agreed Hound. I do wonder though whether his recent spectacular improvement in contribution (it wasn't shoddy before), is to do with the coaching he's now receiving or putting himself in the shop window.
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I love him. Will be a big loss imo
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As I said earlier pies, I would be surprised if he didn’t want to play at a higher level, every player should.
Whatever is motivating him is a good thing for us right now.
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Agreed.
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Get a contract signed and if a club comes in the Summer at least we will get some money. Wouldn't be surprised if Snake has tapped him up though.
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Get a contract signed and if a club comes in the Summer at least we will get some money. Wouldn't be surprised if Snake has tapped him up though.
What’s the Snake tapping him up for? Joining him down the job centre? 😂
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I still hope and think that he’ll stay here if we offer a deal that reflects his importance to the team - and his importance is without question. He’s been superb recently and is constantly improving too. Darren Moore wants him to stay, I believe he wants to stay, I just hope the club can reach a suitable agreement.
Some people go on about replacing him. I’m not aware of many wingers at this level that are two footed, decent in the air and get near the goals and assists return that Sadlier offers. Yes, we could replace him, but not with anybody as good or as productive so our efforts should be on keeping what we’ve got.
What makes you think we haven't offered him improved terms that match his contribution to the team and fairly reflects his value to DM?
Why have Whiteman and Anderson signed and Sadlier hasn't? I think it's fair to say his representatives have chosen a route to get KS to a Championship club or a bigger club next season. If, they don't get those offers, which I would say is highly unlikely, then he may take up the offer already on the table or try to re-open negotiations with us.
If the ball is in KS representative's court, I doubt if we were to try to improve the already good offer, it would change their strategy.
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I still hope and think that he’ll stay here if we offer a deal that reflects his importance to the team - and his importance is without question. He’s been superb recently and is constantly improving too. Darren Moore wants him to stay, I believe he wants to stay, I just hope the club can reach a suitable agreement.
Some people go on about replacing him. I’m not aware of many wingers at this level that are two footed, decent in the air and get near the goals and assists return that Sadlier offers. Yes, we could replace him, but not with anybody as good or as productive so our efforts should be on keeping what we’ve got.
What makes you think we haven't offered him improved terms that match his contribution to the team and fairly reflects his value to DM?
Why have Whiteman and Anderson signed and Sadlier hasn't? I think it's fair to say his representatives have chosen a route to get KS to a Championship club or a bigger club next season. If, they don't get those offers, which I would say is highly unlikely, then he may take up the offer already on the table or try to re-open negotiations with us.
If the ball is in KS representative's court, I doubt if we were to try to improve the already good offer, it would change their strategy.
What makes you think any of that?
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From the interview I’d say 75% going, 25% staying. He will probably know where his likely destination is as well. Criminal if he leaves on a free.
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Because DM and GB are acutely aware of the risks and will have evaluated that in the offer and, they will also ensure its in line with and proportionate with other contract offers that have been accepted and signed.
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From the interview I’d say 75% going, 35% staying. He will probably know where his likely destination is as well. Criminal if he leaves on a free.
You can't make a player sign a contract! If he goes, he goes for free and we have to accept that.
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From the interview I’d say 75% going, 35% staying. He will probably know where his likely destination is as well. Criminal if he leaves on a free.
Terrible mathematics
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From the interview I’d say 75% going, 35% staying. He will probably know where his likely destination is as well. Criminal if he leaves on a free.
Terrible mathematics
You are 110% right there!
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From the interview I’d say 75% going, 35% staying. He will probably know where his likely destination is as well. Criminal if he leaves on a free.
Terrible mathematics
It’s a terrible typo!
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Listening to the interview on I follow I'm inclined to agree with gazlaz.
Maybe Taylor can talk to him as he left Rotherham expecting to be picked up by a championship club but nothing come of it hence the reason he came here.
Fingers crossed we and his agents can work something out. I think he can make it in the championship just hoping that it will be with us
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Because DM and GB are acutely aware of the risks and will have evaluated that in the offer and, they will also ensure its in line with and proportionate with other contract offers that have been accepted and signed.
We’ve no idea what the offer is and how it compares to other contracts such as whiteman, Taylor, Anderson, Wright etc etc
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Yep, always best to focus on facts rather than conjecture or guess work.
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Personally hope he stays and signs up, but if his head has been turned there is little the club can do about it.... Players come and players go.
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It’s my understanding he wants to stay and his representatives have told the club this and what the contract should be in order for him to sign.
They’re just waiting for the club to come back to them,
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It’s my understanding he wants to stay and his representatives have told the club this and what the contract should be in order for him to sign.
They’re just waiting for the club to come back to them,
Where does this come from?
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It’s my understanding he wants to stay and his representatives have told the club this and what the contract should be in order for him to sign.
They’re just waiting for the club to come back to them,
Where does this come from?
Conjecture...
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It’s my understanding he wants to stay and his representatives have told the club this and what the contract should be in order for him to sign.
They’re just waiting for the club to come back to them,
I've heard the same
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It’s my understanding he wants to stay and his representatives have told the club this and what the contract should be in order for him to sign.
They’re just waiting for the club to come back to them,
Where does this come from?
Conjecture...
No,
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It’s my understanding he wants to stay and his representatives have told the club this and what the contract should be in order for him to sign.
They’re just waiting for the club to come back to them,
If he wants to stay then he will take the offer the club has given him. If he would like to stay but only on his terms then the above is correct.
A world of difference between those two sentences.
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So the agents are dictating to the club what the contract should be?
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It’s my understanding he wants to stay and his representatives have told the club this and what the contract should be in order for him to sign.
They’re just waiting for the club to come back to them,
If he wants to stay then he will take the offer the club has given him. If he would like to stay but only on his terms then the above is correct.
A world of difference between those two sentences.
Just because he wants to stay doesn’t mean he should just accept any offer given to him.
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In my eyes club and player will both be looking for the best deal to suit themselves. Negotiating just means meeting somewhere in the middle where both parties probably think that they could have goo ten a better deal but are happy to settle things as they are somewhere near what they were aiming for.
The problem will arise when either a player thinks that he is worth far more than he actually is or a club makes a derisory offer.
Hopefully our board will offer a fair deal and Sads will settle for a figure somewhere near what he wanted.
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I think Sads is approaching the level of Tommy Rowe and could make it into a lower half Championship side with continued progress through the rest of this season, but probably with a fair bit of bench sitting. He does lack consistency a tad.
I'm sure DM and the club are aware of his value. He's one that ideally should have been targetted for a further contract much sooner - his value has increased over this season. But with the contract backlog, it seems he's simply the one that got away.
I'd say its more like 67% likely he'll end up with a contract, and 50/50 that he'll be with us next season.
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It’s my understanding he wants to stay and his representatives have told the club this and what the contract should be in order for him to sign.
They’re just waiting for the club to come back to them,
If he wants to stay then he will take the offer the club has given him. If he would like to stay but only on his terms then the above is correct.
A world of difference between those two sentences.
There's also a world of difference between what you (Wilts Rover) think and the reality of the situation as well my friend.
Let me ask you a question, in your current job or jobs you have had in the past, have you accepted what's been offered to you or negotiated a salary in line with what you think you are worth? A footballers salary is arrived at in exactly the same way, so why should Sadlier's situation be any different to anyone else job, pay and conditions.
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It’s my understanding he wants to stay and his representatives have told the club this and what the contract should be in order for him to sign.
They’re just waiting for the club to come back to them,
I've heard the same
Me too
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Oh and your the expert on when a players ready to play at a higher level are you?
So if we did get promotion this year Sadlier wouldn’t feature next year right lol?
Oh and let’s get one thing straight, he only disappears in games when we stop getting the ball to him.
Quote: so if we did get promoted this year: unquote.....
I’m sure you mis typed that line..... it just won’t happen....
No I m no expert on any articulate player, but it doesn’t take much to work out that Sads is still learning his craft after the step up ..... his finishing at this level is very good, but the Championship is a different game altogether.....
Wilkes also wasn’t ready in my opinion......
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It’s my understanding he wants to stay and his representatives have told the club this and what the contract should be in order for him to sign.
They’re just waiting for the club to come back to them,
If he wants to stay then he will take the offer the club has given him. If he would like to stay but only on his terms then the above is correct.
A world of difference between those two sentences.
There's also a world of difference between what you (Wilts Rover) think and the reality of the situation as well my friend.
Let me ask you a question, in your current job or jobs you have had in the past, have you accepted what's been offered to you or negotiated a salary in line with what you think you are worth? A footballers salary is arrived at in exactly the same way, so why should Sadlier's situation be any different to anyone else job, pay and conditions.
The difference being that no-one has come on this forum and said that I want to stay in my job.
I would like to stay in my job providing the terms of of my contract suit me. I presume Kieran Sadlier is just the same. Good luck to him in his negotiations.
What we don't need are his acolytes (hi Kieran) coming on this forum saying he 'wants' to stay thus trying to get the fans on 'his' side against the club. He doesn't. He would like to stay - end of.
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Oh and your the expert on when a players ready to play at a higher level are you?
So if we did get promotion this year Sadlier wouldn’t feature next year right lol?
Oh and let’s get one thing straight, he only disappears in games when we stop getting the ball to him.
Quote: so if we did get promoted this year: unquote.....
I’m sure you mis typed that line..... it just won’t happen....
No I m no expert on any articulate player, but it doesn’t take much to work out that Sads is still learning his craft after the step up ..... his finishing at this level is very good, but the Championship is a different game altogether.....
Wilkes also wasn’t ready in my opinion......
I am not a Wilkes fan so to me he will never be ready for The Championship, I think his career at Hull will go the same way it has at Leeds and Barnsley I am sorry to say.
Your right about one thing, your not an expert but you still feel able to share your thoughts on here with others, well that's fine, everyone is deserving of their opinion. You don't think Sadlier is ready, whereas a good many people in the game including DM by the way believe he can play at the very top, it will be interesting to see who's right on this won't it.
I actually think we can make the play offs, I actually don't think the sides above us are all that tbh and on our day we can compete and beat any team in the league and we have done that as well.
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Sadlier is our best attacking player this year. If it wasn't for Anderson, he could well be overall player of the season. Hes 25, fit, and seems to be coming of age. Absolutely great if he stays.
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It’s my understanding he wants to stay and his representatives have told the club this and what the contract should be in order for him to sign.
They’re just waiting for the club to come back to them,
I've heard the same
Me too
Given dickos & ravenrover are giving it ‘the need to know’ treatment, can you enlighten us as to where you ‘heard it’?
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No, but it’s as good a source as you’ll get
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Mine is a very good source but it 's on a need to know basis ....... and you or anyone else don't
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So why in effect post ‘I know something that you don’t but I’m not going to tell you’?
If (as I suspect) you’re playing ‘Billy Big Bollox’, pathetic.
You’re adding nothing to the thread so why do it?
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The whole topic has been people trying to slag sadlier off. If you knew that this criticism was unfair because you knew the real situation wouldn’t you say?
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“The whole topic has been about Sadlier being slagged off”.
Really?
I think you’ll find that 99.9% of Rovers supporters would like nothing better than to hear Kieran has signed a new contract with us.
The numpties that ‘slag him off’ as you put it are exactly that, numpties.
But get it into perspective before you merely add fuel to the fire by ‘alienating’ the vast majority who recognise his contribution to the team now & hopefully in years to come by suggesting you know something that you’re happy to allude to but can’t substantiate when one of the 99.9% asks you where you get your information from & play ‘not say in’.
It does Kieran no favours (if that’s what you think you’re doing) & it does little to ‘enhance’ your own credibility, the latter of which is actually of little consequence to me.
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I have absolutely no idea about Sadlier's contract and pay, and I am not interested. If he wants to stay, he will. If he thinks he is good enough to get better pay elsewhere he will go, and we will replace him hopefully with a good player. In the mean time I am more interested in how the new lads are settling in and whether Sadlier will be challenged rather than being an automatic choice for the team.
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“The whole topic has been about Sadlier being slagged off”.
Really?
I think you’ll find that 99.9% of Rovers supporters would like nothing better than to hear Kieran has signed a new contract with us.
The numpties that ‘slag him off’ as you put it are exactly that, numpties.
But get it into perspective before you merely add fuel to the fire by ‘alienating’ the vast majority who recognise his contribution to the team now & hopefully in years to come by suggesting you know something that you’re happy to allude to but can’t substantiate when one of the 99.9% asks you where you get your information from & play ‘not say in’.
It does Kieran no favours (if that’s what you think you’re doing) & it does little to ‘enhance’ your own credibility, the latter of which is actually of little consequence to me.
What on earth are you rambling on about?
I’ve no idea why you’re getting all your knickers in a twist. You’re embarrassing yourself
If someone has told me something in confidence then I am certainly not going to tell you just because for some reason you don’t seem to be able to handle it.
You either believe it or you don’t, it’s simple
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Then why post it in the first place?
Pathetic.
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No different to the suppositions that people are posting, just trying to put it into a proper context. Saying who any source of information is, is private but hey don't let that bother you shipping out the insults water off a ducks back to me old lad and I'm sure that is the same with Dickos.
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It is frustrating for everyone else though. If some people have inside information but can’t reveal that information (not necessarily the source) then it makes sense folks are concerned - so the suggestion not to post when you can only partially post is also valid.
I would argue the exception is SM as he has a specific relationship with the club.
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Oh and your the expert on when a players ready to play at a higher level are you?
So if we did get promotion this year Sadlier wouldn’t feature next year right lol?
Oh and let’s get one thing straight, he only disappears in games when we stop getting the ball to him.
Quote: so if we did get promoted this year: unquote.....
I’m sure you mis typed that line..... it just won’t happen....
No I m no expert on any articulate player, but it doesn’t take much to work out that Sads is still learning his craft after the step up ..... his finishing at this level is very good, but the Championship is a different game altogether.....
Wilkes also wasn’t ready in my opinion......
I am not a Wilkes fan so to me he will never be ready for The Championship, I think his career at Hull will go the same way it has at Leeds and Barnsley I am sorry to say.
Your right about one thing, your not an expert but you still feel able to share your thoughts on here with others, well that's fine, everyone is deserving of their opinion. You don't think Sadlier is ready, whereas a good many people in the game including DM by the way believe he can play at the very top, it will be interesting to see who's right on this won't it.
I actually think we can make the play offs, I actually don't think the sides above us are all that tbh and on our day we can compete and beat any team in the league and we have done that as well.
I haven’t discounted the fact that Sadlier May one day play at the top, but not yet....he is still developing and therefore in my opinion ...not ready!
and your opening sentence on the 2nd stanza is quite baffling!
“Your right about one thing, your not an expert but you still feel able to share your thoughts on here with others, “
NoshitSherlock!
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first name down on team sheet for me. Filled Jm boots when asked earlier in the season and now back Terrorising fullbacks in his natural position. Look at his history, this kid travels about and he’ll go again. This is football. Some you win some you lose. Hope he gets a great contract somewhere. He’s worked for it
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Surely it’s between the agents and the club, the club have a wage structure they adhere to, if Kieran’s demands break that it could cause problems within the rest of the squad, which I doubt are his intentions. It’s a balancing act, I’m not sure how far apart the 2 are but I doubt the club would stand in his way if the deal we are able to offer is way off the mark. Let’s see what happens and just enjoy watching him play for us whilst we can
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Oh and your the expert on when a players ready to play at a higher level are you?
So if we did get promotion this year Sadlier wouldn’t feature next year right lol?
Oh and let’s get one thing straight, he only disappears in games when we stop getting the ball to him.
Quote: so if we did get promoted this year: unquote.....
I’m sure you mis typed that line..... it just won’t happen....
No I m no expert on any articulate player, but it doesn’t take much to work out that Sads is still learning his craft after the step up ..... his finishing at this level is very good, but the Championship is a different game altogether.....
Wilkes also wasn’t ready in my opinion......
I am not a Wilkes fan so to me he will never be ready for The Championship, I think his career at Hull will go the same way it has at Leeds and Barnsley I am sorry to say.
Your right about one thing, your not an expert but you still feel able to share your thoughts on here with others, well that's fine, everyone is deserving of their opinion. You don't think Sadlier is ready, whereas a good many people in the game including DM by the way believe he can play at the very top, it will be interesting to see who's right on this won't it.
I actually think we can make the play offs, I actually don't think the sides above us are all that tbh and on our day we can compete and beat any team in the league and we have done that as well.
I haven’t discounted the fact that Sadlier May one day play at the top, but not yet....he is still developing and therefore in my opinion ...not ready!
and your opening sentence on the 2nd stanza is quite baffling!
“Your right about one thing, your not an expert but you still feel able to share your thoughts on here with others, “
NoshitSherlock!
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
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https://www.the42.ie/kieran-sadlier-interview-february-2020-5005115-Feb2020/?utm_source=shortlink
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ND.
I hope you put your phone down for the next 3 hours.
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Yeah I think there may not be too many photos of ND and KS together
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It is frustrating for everyone else though. If some people have inside information but can’t reveal that information (not necessarily the source) then it makes sense folks are concerned - so the suggestion not to post when you can only partially post is also valid.
I would argue the exception is SM as he has a specific relationship with the club.
I don’t understand why it’s frustrating. If someone says it’s from a good source you either take their word for it or just think they’re lying. I wouldn’t say it if I didn’t think it was a source that meant it was 100% true
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Yeah I think there may not be too many photos of ND and KS together
If only you knew........LoL.
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Newdonny - are you sads himself, his dad or another family member? Lol
Anyhow - sads has been a good player for rovers in his time in Donny - if he stays - great - if he moves on - good luck! Simple really!