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Title: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Draytonian III on May 23, 2020, 05:09:52 pm
I’ve been looking at the details of that season and I wondering what happened to certain players, football careers, non football careers, in a few prison careers. It’s a long list but it might jog a few memories or more likely trips to the beer fridge.

John Borg
Darren Brookes
Paul Conlon
Harvey Cunningham
Craig Davis
Robert Debenham
Mark Donnelly
Wayne Dowell
Darren & David Esdaille
Steve Hawes
Mark Hawthorne
Maurice Hilton
Garry Hoggeth
Gary Messer
Prince Moncrieffe
John Ramsey
Michael Smith
Dominico Tedaldi
Darren Utley (scored from the half way line )
Padi Wilson

Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Branton Rover on May 23, 2020, 06:16:30 pm
I was at Cardiff when Utley scored from 50 yards out then the following summer I was in Ibiza about 3am and saw that goal in a bar - it was a compilation of great goals from the previous year
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: elmsallrover on May 23, 2020, 06:20:05 pm
What a squad that was....
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Draytonian III on May 23, 2020, 08:53:25 pm
Branton, the Cardiff game was on a Friday night due there being Five nations as it was then
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: redarmy82 on May 23, 2020, 08:54:04 pm
How Prince Moncriffe managed to score 8 goals in half a season is still a mystery. He was beyond shite.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Chris the Rover on May 23, 2020, 09:05:28 pm
He wasn’t alone was he?
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: craigdrfc on May 23, 2020, 11:09:23 pm
Wayne Dowell became a physio, possibly at Burnley I think.

Mike Smith and Craig Davis always came across as decent players to me despite the utter dross around them. Davis was certainly the best of the keepers that season (thats not saying much I know).
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: redrover10 on May 24, 2020, 08:44:14 am
Does anybody no who the goalie was when we played Lincoln at home lost 4-2 all can remember he had long hair been driving me mad for years
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Draytonian III on May 24, 2020, 08:47:24 am
Garry Hoggeth played in goal vs Lincoln
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: redrover10 on May 24, 2020, 08:52:13 am
Nice 1 cheers that was my 1st game so that's always stuck in my mind
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: turnbull for england on May 24, 2020, 09:14:19 am
I know Rob, he works at DMBC now
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 24, 2020, 09:15:39 am
A number of those young lads went to Bury, as I think one of youth coaches went there and took some with him.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: craigdrfc on May 24, 2020, 10:16:28 am
Yes thats true CBCB, I clearly recall that.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: craigdrfc on May 24, 2020, 10:18:57 am
One name from back then always sticks with me. Think he only played once or twice but looked a reasonable player even so - Alan Fahey I think he was called. A Ravenhill type midfielder. No idea what happened with him - gone as soon as as he arrived, much like many around that time.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Draytonian III on May 24, 2020, 11:08:46 am
I’d forgotten about Alan Fahey so I’ve googled him and he was a naughty boy when he was at Rovers , pinching a top shelf magazine, some ice creams and sexually assaulting the shop assistant in Birch service station in 98. Warrington local paper
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Rob Debenham on May 24, 2020, 11:42:10 am
Yes, Borgy, Messer, Donnelly, Hoggy, Dino and me were taken over to Bury but were farmed out by Warnock at a similar time. Im still friends with them all as well as Uts, Reg (Hawthorne) and Ramma. We used to love it at Donny despite all the mess and the move to Bury in hindsight wasnt a good one. Some of us had other offers but we stuck together.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Branton Rover on May 26, 2020, 05:00:07 pm
Who was the lad who died from Manchester area - he had that big white Japanese dog & arrived in the flash sports car? Think there was a drugs thing happening his car got took apart from memory - Sam Daio rings a bell
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: The Red Baron on May 27, 2020, 09:26:09 am
One name from back then always sticks with me. Think he only played once or twice but looked a reasonable player even so - Alan Fahey I think he was called. A Ravenhill type midfielder. No idea what happened with him - gone as soon as as he arrived, much like many around that time.

Died a few years ago in Liverpool. I don't know the circumstances. Gary Ingham is also no longer with us.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: keyser_soze on June 01, 2020, 08:59:36 am
Who was the lad who died from Manchester area - he had that big white Japanese dog & arrived in the flash sports car? Think there was a drugs thing happening his car got took apart from memory - Sam Daio rings a bell

I seem to remember Sam Daho was the lad who used to wear the Hilfiger (Ali G style) hats and sat next to Weaver on the bench. As far as i know never actually played a game. 
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: craigdrfc on June 01, 2020, 03:47:04 pm
Was he not more of a protection figure for Weaver than an actual footballer?? He certainly never troubled the teamsheet.

I seem to recall Ian Snodin stating in an early interview that he saw the blokes name on the contracts list but never actually saw him in person after taking over.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: keyser_soze on June 01, 2020, 04:01:27 pm
Was he not more of a protection figure for Weaver than an actual footballer?? He certainly never troubled the teamsheet.

I seem to recall Ian Snodin stating in an early interview that he saw the blokes name on the contracts list but never actually saw him in person after taking over.

Yeah sounds about right to me. Who else made it into that season? Lee Warren definitely. Darren Brookes? Danny George maybe? Harvey Cunningham i think?
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Mike_F on June 01, 2020, 04:49:27 pm
Yes, Borgy, Messer, Donnelly, Hoggy, Dino and me were taken over to Bury but were farmed out by Warnock at a similar time. Im still friends with them all as well as Uts, Reg (Hawthorne) and Ramma. We used to love it at Donny despite all the mess and the move to Bury in hindsight wasnt a good one. Some of us had other offers but we stuck together.

Thanks for coming on here to share that. Had the whole club not been a three ring circus a few of you lads may have had a shot at a steady career in the game. You, Dino and Darren Uttley in particular.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: sheffield exile1 on June 01, 2020, 05:59:04 pm
I was at Cardiff when Utley scored from 50 yards out then the following summer I was in Ibiza about 3am and saw that goal in a bar - it was a compilation of great goals from the previous year

I was there as well, bit misty if I remember, the goal is still on youtube I believe. Wasn't he a local lad? Also at Cardiff when we shipped in 7!!
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: drfchound on June 01, 2020, 07:29:30 pm
I was at Cardiff when Utley scored from 50 yards out then the following summer I was in Ibiza about 3am and saw that goal in a bar - it was a compilation of great goals from the previous year

I was there as well, bit misty if I remember, the goal is still on youtube I believe. Wasn't he a local lad? Also at Cardiff when we shipped in 7!!






How amazing, you and Branton Rover in the same bar in Ibiza.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Draytonian III on June 01, 2020, 07:30:40 pm
Yes it’s on YouTube,I’ve just looked 14/03/97
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: redarmy82 on June 01, 2020, 08:29:20 pm
Didn't Dino Tedaldi score with his first ever touch away at Rochdale?

Remember going in the home end for that one as it was cheaper!
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: sheffield exile1 on June 04, 2020, 08:11:16 pm
I was at Cardiff when Utley scored from 50 yards out then the following summer I was in Ibiza about 3am and saw that goal in a bar - it was a compilation of great goals from the previous year

I was there as well, bit misty if I remember, the goal is still on youtube I believe. Wasn't he a local lad? Also at Cardiff when we shipped in 7!!






How amazing, you and Branton Rover in the same bar in Ibiza.

Don;t tell everyone about our drugs ring mate. No snow white for you!
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: drfchound on June 04, 2020, 10:14:45 pm
I was at Cardiff when Utley scored from 50 yards out then the following summer I was in Ibiza about 3am and saw that goal in a bar - it was a compilation of great goals from the previous year

I was there as well, bit misty if I remember, the goal is still on youtube I believe. Wasn't he a local lad? Also at Cardiff when we shipped in 7!!






How amazing, you and Branton Rover in the same bar in Ibiza.

Don;t tell everyone about our drugs ring mate. No snow white for you!







LoL, nice one.
Shame really as I regularly have to put up with Dopey and Grumpy on here.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Bollinger on June 05, 2020, 12:05:17 pm
David Esdaille is over Glossop way. I think he was doing some carpentry/gardening work with local NHS Trusts. Apparently he still can't believe - but is still proud of the fact - that DRFC gave him a pro contract at 30+ given his very limited FL experience.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: keyser_soze on June 05, 2020, 12:27:12 pm
Didn't he have a massive head of dreadlocks when he first arrived?

Found him here, he's a youth worker now.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/awards-a-great-idea-908211
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: keyser_soze on June 05, 2020, 12:33:26 pm
Interesting that the same site through this up involving Reece Wabara, who has now retired from football. Wonder if this Esdaile is a relation?

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/ex-manchester-city-starlet-faces-being-860927
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Draytonian III on June 05, 2020, 03:35:17 pm
That newspaper report about David Esdaille is from April 2013 so he might have moved jobs
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Herman Hessian on June 06, 2020, 12:50:52 am
say what you like about that season, there were some moments that'll stay with me for ever - that win at peterborough was one of the funniest things i've ever seen - that and hull at home...
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Jim Dobbin on June 08, 2020, 01:18:01 pm
I was at Cardiff when Utley scored from 50 yards out then the following summer I was in Ibiza about 3am and saw that goal in a bar - it was a compilation of great goals from the previous year

I was there as well, bit misty if I remember, the goal is still on youtube I believe. Wasn't he a local lad? Also at Cardiff when we shipped in 7!!

He's from Wombwell, made the mistake of signing for Leeds when they had just won the title upon leaving school. He didn't really have a look in there, he got the chance at Donny but afterwards fell down the leagues - Gateshead, Ossett etc. When he finished his career he worked at Safestyle windows and now works as a window fitter, he recently got married and lives in Brampton.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on June 08, 2020, 01:58:47 pm
say what you like about that season, there were some moments that'll stay with me for ever - that win at peterborough was one of the funniest things i've ever seen - that and hull at home...

Agreed. One Tuesday night early in the season, I sat in the Main Stand for the first time in my life for the home match against Orient. Just so I could vent my spleen at Weaver in the Directors' Box. It is THE closest I've ever come to vomiting through physical exertion. I got three lifetimes worth of bile out of my system that night and I've been Zen-like ever since.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: roversdude on June 08, 2020, 04:19:20 pm
One of my memories of the season was Begara shouting out orders - in a nigh on empty ground his voice travelled, not sure anyone ever understood a word.
That and like others have said the win against Ull, wasn’t Lee Warren actually from Hull
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: keyser_soze on June 08, 2020, 04:35:36 pm
One of my memories of the season was Begara shouting out orders - in a nigh on empty ground his voice travelled, not sure anyone ever understood a word.
That and like others have said the win against Ull, wasn’t Lee Warren actually from Hull

We definitely signed him from Hull a couple of seasons prior. Seem to remember him being a Geordie though originally.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: keyser_soze on June 08, 2020, 04:37:17 pm
Funny i seem to remember him as a veteran that season, he was only 31 and according to Wikipedia played for another 7 years in non league!
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: BigH on June 08, 2020, 04:55:53 pm
Funny i seem to remember him as a veteran that season, he was only 31 and according to Wikipedia played for another 7 years in non league!
One of the rare bits of quality we had that season.

If we'd had 11 of him we'd have stayed up!
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: selby on June 08, 2020, 05:01:38 pm
  Once watched a programme on TV about Steve Stone and Paul Gascoine how they had both been coached by the same teacher and went to the same school. When they interviewed him he said the best player he had had at the school was Lee Warren who he thought was a certainty to go on and play for England.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: roversdude on June 08, 2020, 05:59:57 pm
Adie Mike was another who stood out ang gave his all
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: turnbull for england on June 08, 2020, 06:00:27 pm
One of my memories of the season was Begara shouting out orders - in a nigh on empty ground his voice travelled, not sure anyone ever understood a word.
That and like others have said the win against Ull, wasn’t Lee Warren actually from Hull

Remember  Wardy (jnr)  shouting abuse at him in Spanish from away end somewhere too , that got his attention good and proper, the look on his face was priceless
 
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: Al4475 on June 08, 2020, 10:46:31 pm
Lee Warren deserves a sainthood and immortalising at rovers- had it not been for him getting a few lads together after relegation to the conference to try and get ready for the season ' there'd have been no rovers for the snods to try and sort out and certainly no JR - lee Warren- the glue that stuck drfc together when everyone felt that was it!
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: keyser_soze on June 09, 2020, 10:02:18 am
Adie Mike was another who stood out ang gave his all

Perhaps a little too effective in attack, so they stuck him in defence! Danny George was an honest trier too.
Title: Re: Players from 97/98 season
Post by: elmsallrover on June 11, 2020, 01:02:52 pm
Ian gore as well