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Title: Lee Johnson
Post by: donnyguy on July 04, 2020, 06:25:06 pm
Following defeat to Cardiff Lee Johnson has been sacked
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: phil old leake on July 04, 2020, 07:02:39 pm
Another average manager who has achieved nothing and will just keep going round on the management roundabout
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Post by: Draytonian III on July 04, 2020, 07:17:08 pm
7 defeats and 2 draws in 9 matches .
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: Retdon1 on July 06, 2020, 10:17:03 am
Spent close to £70 million and used over 100 players in 4 years
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: Branton Rover on July 06, 2020, 10:30:08 am
Yes but he’ll get another job soon
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: chrisd_123 on July 06, 2020, 11:13:54 am
He did well at Oldham and Barnsley on relatively low budgets (compared to Bristol anyway)

Sometimes managers are better suited to a job with less big names, big wages. Look at SoD.

He strikes be as a bit like Darren Moore in terms of being a good guy and a good man manager. Seems to have a knack of getting the best out of players, including those with limited ability with players wanting to play for him. But at a league two/league one level where you don't get as many of the big wages and big egos.

Issue with Bristol is they clearly want that next step with how much money they've thrown at it and if he's not done it in 4 years, they'll be getting restless.

He won't be out of work too long. A good League One club will snap him up.
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 06, 2020, 01:07:13 pm
at last it must have been  six years since i said he had no ability and should be sacked ( you should see my views on morinho and his lack of abilty in the current climate -- when he joined man u  -- and guess wot i was right )

i remember him losing 6 in a row at Barnsley then won a lot in a row and was pinched ( dingles were so pleased ) and the other bloke took over who i believe was pulling the strings all along


tyke can you fill in a few details please

i remember now Bristol gave him a stupid 4y ear contract and i used to go on and on about how they could not afford to sack him when they were near the bottom (i think near the bottom)

he signed a 4 year deal originally then in 2019 he signed another 4 year deal .. unbelievable the owner is into finance        ....    sadly " not very good"  with his football finances :suicide:
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: phil old leake on July 06, 2020, 01:31:12 pm
There are so many managers the same.  For some reason they just go round and round on the merry go round achieving nowt
The lust could be endless.
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: EasyforDennis on July 06, 2020, 01:32:53 pm
The law of averages says that most managers will achieve nowt.
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: roversdude on July 06, 2020, 03:24:56 pm
He did well at Oldham and Barnsley on relatively low budgets (compared to Bristol anyway)

Sometimes managers are better suited to a job with less big names, big wages. Look at SoD.

He strikes be as a bit like Darren Moore in terms of being a good guy and a good man manager. Seems to have a knack of getting the best out of players, including those with limited ability with players wanting to play for him. But at a league two/league one level where you don't get as many of the big wages and big egos.

Issue with Bristol is they clearly want that next step with how much money they've thrown at it and if he's not done it in 4 years, they'll be getting restless.

He won't be out of work too long. A good League One club will snap him up.

There will be a job going at Peterborough soonish and more than likely at Hull
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: idler on July 06, 2020, 04:41:24 pm
There are so many managers the same.  For some reason they just go round and round on the merry go round achieving nowt
The lust could be endless.
That smacks of a sexist remark!😉
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 06, 2020, 04:45:01 pm
He did well at Oldham and Barnsley on relatively low budgets (compared to Bristol anyway)

Sometimes managers are better suited to a job with less big names, big wages. Look at SoD.

He strikes be as a bit like Darren Moore in terms of being a good guy and a good man manager. Seems to have a knack of getting the best out of players, including those with limited ability with players wanting to play for him. But at a league two/league one level where you don't get as many of the big wages and big egos.

Issue with Bristol is they clearly want that next step with how much money they've thrown at it and if he's not done it in 4 years, they'll be getting restless.

He won't be out of work too long. A good League One club will snap him up.

as i said lets see what tyke thinks of him !!!
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: phil old leake on July 06, 2020, 04:54:42 pm
Easy. Does that make it right

If these people performed like they do in industry which football is (it’s about achieving and profit making) they would be out on their arse

Can you imagine a manager at a big department store talking the talk getting a job and then his / her department fails
I’m sure they’d just give them another job
No maybe not maybe they’d be fired with little chance of achieving something similar until they had been a success
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: EasyforDennis on July 07, 2020, 07:59:04 pm
Easy. Does that make it right

If these people performed like they do in industry which football is (it’s about achieving and profit making) they would be out on their arse

Can you imagine a manager at a big department store talking the talk getting a job and then his / her department fails
I’m sure they’d just give them another job
No maybe not maybe they’d be fired with little chance of achieving something similar until they had been a success

Not really a fair comparison. There are 23 clubs in our division. Only 3 get promoted does that mean the other 20 managers are failures and should be fired?
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: phil old leake on July 08, 2020, 12:18:47 am
No it doesn’t but surely at some stage you have to achieve something
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: EasyforDennis on July 08, 2020, 08:45:29 am
No it doesn’t but surely at some stage you have to achieve something

Maybe it depends on what you accept as achievement. Sheffield Utd will win nothing this year but for me Chris Wilder will be the Manager of the Year.
Many managers who keep their clubs up when they are favourites to go down are achievers. I just feel that in football people expect far too much of ALL managers. Its an old adage but a very true one. Being a football manager, the only thing you can guarantee is that one day you will get the sack. It seems to be as the years go by that sacking comes sooner rather than later. Too many club owners want instant success. Thankfully that isn't the case at DRFC.
Title: Re: Lee Johnson
Post by: phil old leake on July 09, 2020, 08:19:53 am
I agree with some of that
A manager keeps a team up that are guaranteed relegation. Great job.
He will then in all probabilities move on to something better.
Are you saying that it’s a success to float around keeping teams up with no chance of improvement or development. Surely there needs to be some success at some point
I agree with the comments about Chris Wilder. I hope he wins it but that awards going to Merseyside. Wilder has proven himself to be a great manager. He will however never get a look in at Spurs Liverpool Chelsea Man Utd Man C. That is an example of where it is wrong from the other side