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Title: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 07, 2020, 01:42:04 am
Ok potentially Wycombe Wanderers might "win"  promotion after technically finishing 8th

but CLH remembers one team finishing lower than that in the league and consequently "winning" ....  something

A) what is the name of that team

by the way did anyone realise it isn't all that long since both Wycombe & Fleetwood were non league teams ..... something for Barrow to aspire to ??? :scarf:

 
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: IDM on July 07, 2020, 08:15:19 am
Technically finished 8th.?

Wycombe joined the EFL in 1993, so quite a while really.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Branton Rover on July 07, 2020, 08:45:22 am
Has anyone got that clip of the horrendous tackle on Dave Moss on YouTube to attach - it could’ve snapped his leg in two - but being a lad from Rossington he just got up, dusted himself down & got on with it
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: IDM on July 07, 2020, 09:49:08 am
Has anyone got that clip of the horrendous tackle on Dave Moss on YouTube to attach - it could’ve snapped his leg in two - but being a lad from Rossington he just got up, dusted himself down & got on with it

This one.?

 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FkEeJnr2-VA (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FkEeJnr2-VA)

About 25 seconds in.  I was there.

Crazy thing was Jason Cousins only got a yellow card for that foul, but had already been booked so was rightly sent off.  He had been sent off in the previous game too I think - those days the suspensions didn’t kick in immediately.

Martin O’Neill was very close to sacking Cousins, but that could just have been a heat of the moment reaction..
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: drfchound on July 07, 2020, 10:26:47 am
Who was the co commentator who suggested that both players went in too high.
WTF was he on about.
It was worse than the famous Roy Keane one.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: IDM on July 07, 2020, 11:00:07 am
Probably the one doing the Wycombe video.?

Remember Kevin Keegan’s comments over the elbow incident in the USA vs Brazil WC game.?
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: VivaRovers on July 07, 2020, 11:22:32 am
Ok potentially Wycombe Wanderers might "win"  promotion after technically finishing 8th

but CLH remembers one team finishing lower than that in the league and consequently "winning" ....  something

A) what is the name of that team
 

Loads of teams have finished lower than 8th and won something... think you might have to make your question a bit clearer
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Not Now Kato on July 07, 2020, 11:52:39 am
Well, a certain team finished in 11th Place in 2007 and managed to scrape home a win in the JPT Final against Bristol Rovers.  Does that count?
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: IDM on July 07, 2020, 11:58:29 am
Or a “fair play” award, or similar.?
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: dijit8 on July 07, 2020, 12:45:39 pm
Ipswich got relegated from Premier League and qualified for Europe under fair play
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 07, 2020, 10:09:16 pm
Ok potentially Wycombe Wanderers might "win"  promotion after technically finishing 8th

but CLH remembers one team finishing lower than that in the league and consequently "winning" ....  something

A) what is the name of that team
 

Loads of teams have finished lower than 8th and won something... think you might have to make your question a bit clearer

fair comment --  can i add the word as a result of finishing 10th they "qualified for XXXXXXX"  as a result of that 10th place. and ........  (see above)



by the way if Rovers points per game had been enough for the play offs all hell would have been let off because so many of the games had been at home .-it would have been unfair ?? --.. this has probably been mentioned before. ??   At least we got extra revenue from all the home matches.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: andysly on July 08, 2020, 02:22:02 am
While we had played a disproportionate amount of home games when the season ended, the two games in hand at Bolton and Tranmere which would if played at the time almost certainly have got us 6 points, and made it a little closer to the top 6 but not quite there on ppg.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: RoversAlias on July 08, 2020, 03:24:26 am
While we had played a disproportionate amount of home games when the season ended, the two games in hand at Bolton and Tranmere which would if played at the time almost certainly have got us 6 points, and made it a little closer to the top 6 but not quite there on ppg.

We played the rearranged game with Tranmere and won it comfortably, Ramsey's debut. So we already had those points.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: elmsallrover on July 08, 2020, 05:20:43 am
Wasn't the tranmere game at home called off because tranmere had players away on international duty or have I got that totally wrong
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: IDM on July 08, 2020, 08:04:01 am
That was Shrewsbury wasn’t it.? And the rearranged game was over the Christmas period I think.

Tranmere away was rained off.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: andysly on July 10, 2020, 04:24:29 am
While we had played a disproportionate amount of home games when the season ended, the two games in hand at Bolton and Tranmere which would if played at the time almost certainly have got us 6 points, and made it a little closer to the top 6 but not quite there on ppg.

We played the rearranged game with Tranmere and won it comfortably, Ramsey's debut. So we already had those points.

Good point, its been a while ha ha
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on July 10, 2020, 10:50:29 am
Quite a few teams have qualified for Europe after a crap season just by winning the Welsh Cup.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 10, 2020, 07:18:37 pm
Quite a few teams have qualified for Europe after a crap season just by winning the Welsh Cup.

yes you are on the right lines but remember they have to "win" something    ......   
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on July 10, 2020, 10:48:45 pm
Quite a few teams have qualified for Europe after a crap season just by winning the Welsh Cup.

yes you are on the right lines but remember they have to "win" something    ......   

They win the Welsh Cup!
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 10, 2020, 11:13:44 pm
Quite a few teams have qualified for Europe after a crap season just by winning the Welsh Cup.

yes you are on the right lines but remember they have to "win" something    ......   

They win the Welsh Cup!
 

teams from all sorts of countries competed, before the time these "new*"  countries gained independance

* a lot of these "new" countries used to exist a long time ago before they were absorbed by larger ones

i'm giving it away now ...... 
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 12, 2020, 11:56:03 am
still no takers

 
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: VivaRovers on July 12, 2020, 01:26:32 pm
Your question seems to have changed completely, so I give up.

I thought we were trying to identify a team that had finished lower than 8th place in the third tier then won something as a result of finishing in that position.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on July 12, 2020, 02:45:39 pm
still no takers

 

If we could understand the question there might be. As it is, all your 'giving it away' does is muddy the waters even further.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 12, 2020, 04:01:32 pm
Your question seems to have changed completely, so I give up.

I thought we were trying to identify a team that had finished lower than 8th place in the third tier then won something as a result of finishing in that position.

correct to quote a local lad    " i would just love it  ...."  if you came up with the answer


big big clue here !!  fairs fair.  they won a cup
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: VivaRovers on July 12, 2020, 11:11:45 pm
Your hints are seemingly trying to guide us towards Newcastle United winning the UEFA Fairs Cup after finishing 10th the previous season.

But 10th in the old First Division isn't lower than 8th in the third tier
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: drfchound on July 12, 2020, 11:23:43 pm
Your hints are seemingly trying to guide us towards Newcastle United winning the UEFA Fairs Cup after finishing 10th the previous season.

But 10th in the old First Division isn't lower than 8th in the third tier






Did CLH suggest that the team he was talking about (Newcastle) was in the third tier.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: idler on July 13, 2020, 12:11:19 am
Swindon Town won the League Cup while a third division club.
If I remember right we did the double over them even though we were relegated. 1-0 both games.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2020, 12:15:56 am
Wigan won the FA Cup and were relegated in the same season!
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: IDM on July 13, 2020, 08:09:39 am
Swindon Town won the League Cup while a third division club.
If I remember right we did the double over them even though we were relegated. 1-0 both games.

They got promoted that season..
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: idler on July 13, 2020, 09:19:56 am
Yes indeed and that made our double even more surprising.
I think that we even had Norman Corner at centre half in the away game as well.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 13, 2020, 10:03:53 am
Your hints are seemingly trying to guide us towards Newcastle United winning the UEFA Fairs Cup after finishing 10th the previous season.

But 10th in the old First Division isn't lower than 8th in the third tier

viva  well done    :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
 my memory thought they finished as high as 8th so i was even more shocked when i checked my facts and saw they finished 10th and still got into Europe

Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: IDM on July 13, 2020, 10:17:09 am
Your question was confusing as we all thought you meant in the 3rd division.

Are you saying Newcastle qualified for that competition for the following season, having finished 10th.?

Maybe it was an invitation thing.?
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 13, 2020, 03:03:12 pm
Your question was confusing as we all thought you meant in the 3rd division.

Are you saying Newcastle qualified for that competition for the following season, having finished 10th.?

Maybe it was an invitation thing.?
nope i remember them talking about the possibility of them qualifying for Europe before they finished 10th with the if and more if's British teams must have won a lot of those european competitions or some British team won at least 2  " competitions ... so couldnt qualify twice

Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: drfchound on July 13, 2020, 03:06:39 pm
Your question was confusing as we all thought you meant in the 3rd division.

Are you saying Newcastle qualified for that competition for the following season, having finished 10th.?

Maybe it was an invitation thing.?






It never crossed my mind that CLH meant the third division IDM.
He just said “in the league” not in league one.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 13, 2020, 03:07:35 pm
ok here is the real reason

"The Inter-Cities Fairs Cup, which morphed into the UEFA Cup just two seasons after Newcastle’s first competitive overseas adventure in 1968/69, was a typically European affair – a botched attempt at bringing the continent closer together through a mish-mash of rules that meant the Magpies reached the tournament despite having finished 10th in the First Division the previous season.

Newcastle essentially qualified by virtue of being a one-city team, a ruling which dated back to when the tournament was less about football and more about the celebration of trade fairs."

which i presume might have ruled out the city of Manchester from competing sheffield and maybe Birmingham ??  as if they might have been high enough thinking about it it ruled out LONDON TEAMS since there is more than one   that looks like the killer !!!

tottenham and Arsenal were not allowed in due to the rules   it gets better EVERTON WERE ALSO NOT ALLOWED IN
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/forty-six-years-hurt-remembering-newcastles-european-triumph-1969

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967%E2%80%9368_Football_League#Final_league_tables_and_results


which reminds me of another "back door winner" in  1992 when Denmark were knocked out of the European competition and invited back in when Yugoslavia "Split "   and won it.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: IDM on July 13, 2020, 03:25:21 pm
Maybe I mis-remember but didn’t England enter the first European Cup with a team representing London.?

Just checked, according to wiki a London team was entered into the first Fairs Cup.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: Campsall rover on July 13, 2020, 10:19:28 pm
Swindon Town won the League Cup while a third division club.
If I remember right we did the double over them even though we were relegated. 1-0 both games.
1969 Swindon beat Arsenal and Rovers were 4th division Champions.
Title: Re: A wyked Wycombe Quiz
Post by: idler on July 13, 2020, 10:38:26 pm
I thought later that I might have combined two seasons there.😳
1966/67 we did double and went down.