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Title: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on August 02, 2020, 03:08:24 pm
Harrogate Town one up after 5 minutes! Come on Yorkshire!  :scarf:

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Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on August 02, 2020, 03:28:51 pm
Town now 2 up!
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Geoff Blakesley on August 02, 2020, 03:30:58 pm
Yes !!
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: dknward2 on August 02, 2020, 03:32:29 pm
Yorkshire Yorkshire Yorkshire
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Campsall rover on August 02, 2020, 03:33:13 pm
Next goal is massive. Come on the Town
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on August 02, 2020, 03:41:36 pm
Town hit the post...should have been 3 up...at least!
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Campsall rover on August 02, 2020, 03:42:54 pm
Should be 5-0 up never mind 3 
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on August 02, 2020, 03:51:41 pm
H-T, 2-0
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Campsall rover on August 02, 2020, 03:54:55 pm
Happy with that but should be game over and 2-0 can be a dangerous lead.
Dagenham & Redbridge and Bristol Rovers spring to mind.

Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Retdon1 on August 02, 2020, 03:56:23 pm
Notts county have been awful. Just lumping balls forward to Wooton and expecting to play off that.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Campsall rover on August 02, 2020, 04:05:04 pm
Well it’s game on now.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on August 02, 2020, 04:06:34 pm
2-1. :facepalm:
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Campsall rover on August 02, 2020, 04:31:04 pm
What a finish 3-1 surely surely that’s the goal that wins it.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on August 02, 2020, 04:31:32 pm
3-1. Get in!
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: roversdude on August 02, 2020, 04:55:03 pm
Congratulations Harrogate
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on August 02, 2020, 04:55:45 pm
All over...Harrogate Town in League 2 next season. Yesssssss!

 :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: scawsby steve on August 02, 2020, 04:56:53 pm
Fantastic achievement.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Filo on August 02, 2020, 04:57:26 pm
They will have to rip up their 4g pitch
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Bezza on August 02, 2020, 04:58:11 pm
Brilliant well done the Weaver family,
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Campsall rover on August 02, 2020, 04:58:48 pm
Fantastic. Never thought I would see the day Harrogate would become a league club.

Congratulations to them.  :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Just shows if you stick with the manager what can be achieved.

11 years in the job. I suppose it helps if your Dad is the Chairman and owner.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: karldew on August 02, 2020, 05:02:11 pm
They will have to rip up their 4g pitch

Sure I read somewhere that they will play somewhere else if promoted?
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Campsall rover on August 02, 2020, 05:06:24 pm
They will have to rip up their 4g pitch

Sure I read somewhere that they will play somewhere else if promoted?
That’s news to me. Don’t know where you heard that. Don’t think so. Why should they. Just need to change the pitch. Other ground development plans are in place also.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: besty on August 02, 2020, 05:06:48 pm
Amazing

Days out at Bradford and Bolton,well done ,my dad always watched them when Rovers were away he would have been made up
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Campsall rover on August 02, 2020, 05:08:52 pm
I think they will hold their own in League 2
3 or 4 good additions to the squad & they will do ok imo.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: RoversAlias on August 02, 2020, 06:35:52 pm
Fantastic. Never thought I would see the day Harrogate would become a league club.

Congratulations to them.  :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Just shows if you stick with the manager what can be achieved.

11 years in the job. I suppose it helps if your Dad is the Chairman and owner.

I'm sure it does but he's done a great job and, unusually, he has been manager two years longer than his father has been in charge too.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Campsall rover on August 02, 2020, 06:51:24 pm
Fantastic. Never thought I would see the day Harrogate would become a league club.

Congratulations to them.  :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Just shows if you stick with the manager what can be achieved.

11 years in the job. I suppose it helps if your Dad is the Chairman and owner.


I'm sure it does but he's done a great job and, unusually, he has been manager two years longer than his father has been in charge too.
No question Alias he has done a fantastic job. But some other Chairman or owners may not have given him as much time. Time is what is needed and some owners in all tiers of football need to have a good hard look in the direction of Harrogate and realise changing managers like most people eat hot dinners is not the way to building a successful football team. Notts County are one those clubs.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 02, 2020, 07:12:00 pm
They will have to rip up their 4g pitch

Sure I read somewhere that they will play somewhere else if promoted?
That’s news to me. Don’t know where you heard that. Don’t think so. Why should they. Just need to change the pitch. Other ground development plans are in place also.

They'll need a car park and ideally some traffic lights outside the ground or everybody will be stuck for ages behind someone wanting to turn right leaving the ground.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 02, 2020, 07:21:47 pm
Well done Harrogate Town. I'll never hear the last of it from Harrogate Rover at the Keepmoat when we return.........That's providing he doesn't do a runner and turns his back on us in favour of the league newcomers!

 I doubt it somehow though, he's Rovers mad!
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: bedale rover on August 02, 2020, 08:55:07 pm
Could be my new second team
Only 20+ miles away
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: tyke1962 on August 02, 2020, 08:58:02 pm
Thoroughly enjoyed the game this afternoon and Harrogate Town were worthy winners .

It will be some occasion when they welcome Bradford City to Wetherby Road next season as a football league club .

Betty's tea room will be rocking tonight .

 :woohoo:

Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: EasyforDennis on August 02, 2020, 09:10:28 pm
They will have to rip up their 4g pitch

Sure I read somewhere that they will play somewhere else if promoted?
That’s news to me. Don’t know where you heard that. Don’t think so. Why should they. Just need to change the pitch. Other ground development plans are in place also.

I think they may have to play some of their early games away from their own ground until the new pitch is laid and some other changes made.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: TheFunk on August 02, 2020, 09:13:59 pm
Diggers are booked for tomorrow morning according to the Town season ticket holder in Knaresborough this afternoon. How they'll survive without the income from the 3g pitch they don't know with the way things are.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: karldew on August 02, 2020, 10:20:23 pm
They will have to rip up their 4g pitch

Sure I read somewhere that they will play somewhere else if promoted?
That’s news to me. Don’t know where you heard that. Don’t think so. Why should they. Just need to change the pitch. Other ground development plans are in place also.

I think they may have to play some of their early games away from their own ground until the new pitch is laid and some other changes made.

Harrogate chairman Irving Weaver stated in his programme notes ahead of Saturday's play-off semi-final against Boreham Wood: 'If we were promoted on August 2 we have a promotion-triggered contract to replace the 3G pitch with grass and a pre-requisite is that we have to have commenced work by August 4.

'It will take 10 weeks for the pitch to be ready and we have an agreement in principle with the EFL that we are able to groundshare for the first few matches.’
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Harrogate Rover on August 02, 2020, 10:34:42 pm
Well done Harrogate Town. I'll never hear the last of it from Harrogate Rover at the Keepmoat when we return.........That's providing he doesn't do a runner and turns his back on us in favour of the league newcomers!

 I doubt it somehow though, he's Rovers mad!

Doncaster Rovers are my first and only true love. They put me through so much but I wouldn't have it any other way.
Harrogate Town are my less stressful 'bit on the side'.

Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: VivaRovers on August 02, 2020, 11:52:21 pm
Wonder if their planned groundshare is at the Keepmoat? They've played home games there in the past.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Harrogate Rover on August 03, 2020, 07:08:59 am
Wonder if their planned groundshare is at the Keepmoat? They've played home games there in the past.

Funnily enough my lad works with someone 'in the know' at Town, and he'd heard that the Keepmoat had been muted as somewhere to play their first few league games should they be promoted. Valley Parade is probably the nearest EFL ground to Harrogate but Doncaster is just as quick and easy to get too. Plus I believe Irving Weaver is an acquaintance of Terry Bramhalls.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: drfchound on August 03, 2020, 08:21:16 am
Well done Harrogate Town. I'll never hear the last of it from Harrogate Rover at the Keepmoat when we return.........That's providing he doesn't do a runner and turns his back on us in favour of the league newcomers!

 I doubt it somehow though, he's Rovers mad!

Doncaster Rovers are my first and only true love. They put me through so much but I wouldn't have it any other way.
Harrogate Town are my less stressful 'bit on the side'.







Might not be less stressful if you get caught visiting them though.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: drfchound on August 03, 2020, 08:28:52 am
Wonder if their planned groundshare is at the Keepmoat? They've played home games there in the past.

Funnily enough my lad works with someone 'in the know' at Town, and he'd heard that the Keepmoat had been muted as somewhere to play their first few league games should they be promoted. Valley Parade is probably the nearest EFL ground to Harrogate but Doncaster is just as quick and easy to get too. Plus I believe Irving Weaver is an acquaintance of Terry Bramhalls.






Perhaps Cub Doncaster could get some income if Harrogate were to play matches at the KM.

Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: dknward2 on August 03, 2020, 09:47:01 am
Could also make an arrangement for rovers season ticket holders to get in even if it is only for a month or two just using the spare vouchers in the back
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Campsall rover on August 03, 2020, 01:22:56 pm
Hope they do play at Keepmoat, saves me the Journey to Harrogate.

Only when Rovers have no game or Gillingham away. ( not going there again )

Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: scawsby steve on August 03, 2020, 03:10:26 pm
Are you all forgetting? There won't be any crowds at the Keepmoat for the first 3 weeks of the season at least, and September 12th is still nearly 6 weeks away.

I don't think any of us will be seeing Harrogate play at the Keepmoat.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Branton Rover on August 03, 2020, 03:26:37 pm
Massive congratulations to Harrogate;

I might be a bit of a killjoy- but shouldn’t there be a minimum requirement of ground capacity to be allowed into the football league - remember when John Ryan had to pay the conference to accept Belle Vue into the Conference with a capacity of over 10,000 Just  seems a bit back to front
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: DonnyOsmond on August 03, 2020, 05:04:27 pm
Confirmed. They'll be at KM for first 3 matches.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: IDM on August 03, 2020, 06:11:22 pm
Massive congratulations to Harrogate;

I might be a bit of a killjoy- but shouldn’t there be a minimum requirement of ground capacity to be allowed into the football league - remember when John Ryan had to pay the conference to accept Belle Vue into the Conference with a capacity of over 10,000 Just  seems a bit back to front
There will be a minimum criteria and not just capacity - it won’t be 10k as there are plenty below that figure.

I’m sure Harrogate will know what they need to do and will have had to submit plans to the EFL in good time - such as relaying the pitch..
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: VivaRovers on August 03, 2020, 07:07:01 pm
Capacity criteria for the Football League is 4,000, with a minimum of 500 covered seats on entry, and plans in place to make that 1,000

There are loads of other aspects too ranging from media facilities to size of changing rooms, and quality of floodlights, but the above is the basics on capacity.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 03, 2020, 07:18:07 pm
That’s brilliant stuff.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 03, 2020, 07:58:01 pm
Capacity criteria for the Football League is 4,000, with a minimum of 500 covered seats on entry, and plans in place to make that 1,000

There are loads of other aspects too ranging from media facilities to size of changing rooms, and quality of floodlights, but the above is the basics on capacity.

Didn't it use to be 6,000 capacity required?
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: Harrogate Rover on August 04, 2020, 09:26:54 pm
Since Irving Weaver took over around 9 years ago they have made steady ground improvements, but they've really stepped it up in the last couple of seasons as the dream of becoming a National League, never mind Football League, club became a reality. The required capacity for a Football League ground is around 5,000 which they now have, including 1,000 seats, and all four sides are now covered. Going full time three years ago has also made a difference, 10 players in the Play off squad where part of the Conference North squad and I don't think any of them will look out of place in League 2. They have a tremendous spirit and are incredibly fit and I reckon they'll do OK next season.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: scawsby steve on August 05, 2020, 03:04:51 pm
Since Irving Weaver took over around 9 years ago they have made steady ground improvements, but they've really stepped it up in the last couple of seasons as the dream of becoming a National League, never mind Football League, club became a reality. The required capacity for a Football League ground is around 5,000 which they now have, including 1,000 seats, and all four sides are now covered. Going full time three years ago has also made a difference, 10 players in the Play off squad where part of the Conference North squad and I don't think any of them will look out of place in League 2. They have a tremendous spirit and are incredibly fit and I reckon they'll do OK next season.

The required capacity can't be around 5000, as Barrow's ground holds only 4000. Unless of course they intend to increase it, but I've not heard of any plans to do so.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: VivaRovers on August 05, 2020, 05:11:00 pm
If only someone could answer the question about capacity requirements for the Football League.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: IDM on August 05, 2020, 07:40:48 pm
 https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-1---membership-criteria-regulation-8 (https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-1---membership-criteria-regulation-8)
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: scawsby steve on August 05, 2020, 08:02:43 pm
https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-1---membership-criteria-regulation-8 (https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-1---membership-criteria-regulation-8)

Thanks IDM.
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: VivaRovers on August 06, 2020, 10:02:44 am
Is this thing on?
Title: Re: National League Play-off Final
Post by: drfchound on August 06, 2020, 11:04:34 am
https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-1---membership-criteria-regulation-8 (https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-1---membership-criteria-regulation-8)







That link makes interesting reading IDM.
Quite a few of the required standards give quite a lot of leeway time wise to reach them.
I was wondering whether anyone knows whether any club has come close to expulsion for not reaching the standards in time?